Its almost entirely javascript with a hell of a lot of preloading going on. Its a very good system actually, Im amazed that everything works identically in both IE and Firefox.
Balmer saying linux is a cancer is attacking the product, not the owners/developers of the product. This Brazilian saying MS is ussing drug dealer like tactics in selling Windows is directly attacking the owners/developers of the product and not the product itself. That my friend is the difference between marketing and defamation.
HI Mark, just tried your gml script and this is what i found:
The windows version presented for download is not an exe as the instructions say, its the same py file as the linux version.
Trying to use the gml.py file under openbsd (and linux) on a thunderbird generated mbox file using the command './gml.py mbox "/home/richard/mbox/BristolLug" ' gives me the following error:
Mbox & Maildir to Gmail Loader (GML) by Mark Lyon
*** Can't open file or directory. Is the path correct? ***
I have mod points, but im going to set them aside to say this: They DO occur in nature, as seen in this very experiment. If they didnt exist, or they were forbidden from existing, then we would never see them in any experiments we conduct. Just because we are causing them to appear by doing various things doesnt mean that the products of such an experiment is outside the scope of nature, and by saying "They dont occur in nature" simply ignores the fact that we are part of nature. If nature didnt want something to happen or occur, we would know about it.
Theres one problem with this way of thinking, the TV scales the picture, the webbrowser doesnt scale the page, it just makes it fit. This leaves out scaling on images, text, and other stuff which gives a lot of pages a squashed or out of proportion look.
When there becomes available a technology to allow the end users browser to automatically scale the entire webpage competantly, i will begin designing purely scalable sites, but until then, my pages will have a recommended minimum size and a recommended maximum size. This is purely for asthetics, but if webdesigners werent after asthetics, we would all be looking at webpages like gnu.org, functional but poor to the eye.
There is money to be made, but everytime a class action suit is brought, people on slashdot bitch about the fact that the laywers get the lions share of the settlement. Damned if you do, damned if you dont.
I apologise for jumping on you, it was not my intention to. I was merely pointing out that if code is under the BSDL then it can hardly be "stolen". As a side, I dont think the BSD reference stack ever made it into a version of windows that made it to a customer, it was used internally to help develop the tcp stack they have now.
You are correct tho, MS has the same problems as Linux or any other high profile opensource codebase does, in that illegitimate code can be placed in by an unscroupulous individual without it being the groups intention to do so. I suspect that they do practice what they preach tho, and code is scrutanised to see if it could have possibly come from another location.
How can you steal something that is being offered free of charge to you? MS did not "steal" the BSD TCP stack, they used the reference code in a manner that was intended it to be used in.
An analogy for what you are saying, just to indicate how stupid your comment was, is: if you leave old clothes in a good will bag outside your front door for local charities to collect, and a charity comes and takes the bag, have they stolen those clothes? No, because this is precisely the outcome you intended. The BSD stack was intended for everyone to take and use.
The stack in NT was rewritten in its entirety during the mid 1990s, and none of the BSD reference code exists, apart from in some small utilities such as ftp.exe, and even then the terms of the BSDL is complied with fully.
As for "similiar violations" being found within the leaked code, I havent heard of any yet, and i sincerly doubt there will be any found. Whenever MS has used other peoples code, they have stuck rigidly to the terms of the license that the code is under, for example they distribute GPL applications as part of the Software For Unix toolkit, and provide the source code in full compliance with the GPL.
For all the stick they get, MS seem to be pretty positive about following the terms of the licensing laid down.
This arguement is pathetic at best, by releasing under the BSDL the government or the public LOOSE NOTHING, where as in your analogy above, they loose the use of a lane.
IF the project was released under the BSDL or a similiar license, both companies and the public have exactly the same starting point, so they gain exactly the same advantage. What each person does after that should be entirely up to them, the mere fact that someone decides to modify it and not release the changes does not change the fact that you have access to the origional code, THEY LOOSE NOTHING.
Under the GPL companies are discriminated against, as they cannot use code that they paid for within their own projects without loosing control of that projects sourcecode, so why should they have funded the governments code development in the first place? With the BSDL you allow everyone to get the same head start, and if a company decides to make money off it, well, then the public has the same chance to do so as well.
Companies pay taxes as well. If this were released into the public domain, or with a less laden license such as the BSDL, then both profit and non profit users would have the same starting position and no advantage over each other. Since companies help fund this, why shouldnt they be allowed to use the code in a closed manner? It doesnt diminish the value of the origional code release, and allows the funders to make use of it in a way that isnt dictated to them.
Unless they are blocking "outbound destination ports", then no matter what source port the spammers use, the traffic still gets filtered. Besides, outgoing smtp servers hardly ever send mail FROM port 25.
They have also been classed as a "Weapon of Mass Destruction" by the UN, because they have an effect outside the intended target, but the US still uses them. The UK and most other countries switched to tungsten after the first gulf war.
Apart from the fact that RGPs took out several Abrams M1A1 tanks during the course of the conflict. It would seem that the M1A1 has a flaw when dealing with close combat situations, its engine compartment isnt as protected as the rest of the system and could be taken out using an RPG.
There is now (since early 4.x versions) a command line version of PHP, for scripting purposes. All the benifits of mod_php in your scripts, and it is now installed by default along side the apache module. You can also acheive a similiar solution using the cgi binary.
Contrast that to Microsoft's EULA for their Mobile Internet Toolkit code which prohibits you from combining their code with ANY open source code, regardless of license. Forget the distribution clause, Microsoft's code can't even be combined with open source code in house.
As is oft said about the GPL, if you dont like the license, write your own damn code. MS is well within its rights to specify what you can and cannot do with its code, just the same as Gnu can with the GPL and code under it.
But when it comes to Linux and free software, Microsoft wants you to think that if you even look at GPL'd code then your whole company could be "infected." And forget about downloading open source programs -- once their in, you might as well file chapter 11.
This also happens the other way round, many many times you hear people say "Dont look at proprietory code, you can be considered tainted if you do" when talking about opensource, the recent leak of the MS windows code brought many such cries on slashdot. Its basic Cover Your Arse.
Im no MS fanboi, but also Im no Linux fanboi, Im starting to hate the "Us and them" attitude spread by the Opensource factions, I can understand it when MS does it as they have shareholders to keep happy, and OSS is another competitor.
For sites such as slashdot, you get banned if you access the feed more than once an hour. This leads to RSS feeds being slightly pointless for high activity sites with such restrictions.
Not in all cases, and its basically unheard of for an appeal case, which this is. Its the Judges decision as to who to award costs to, if anyone at all, and he can award a percentage instead of the entire costs as well.
I hardly ever use my phone for texting, indeed I actually hate it. I bought 1000 sms credits from Clickatel.com, installed their client and also wrote my own email-to-sms connector and have been happy ever since. Oh, and and that 1000 credits cost me a bit under GBP 5, so its much much cheaper as well. I would happily recommend clickatel or a similiar service for texting if you are sitting at an internet connected pc all day.
replace their lost ad revenue yourself? At least offer them an alternative before you start deriding them for doing something. Oh, and where the hell do YOU get off selling your creation and then acting as if you have a say in it after that, you dont, you gave it up for money so dont preach to me.
Where in the GPs post did he say she was using a 10D? The camera she owns may be able to keep up, the 10D isnt the be all and end all of cameras (despite what my work collegue would have you think).
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That arguement didnt help the pot smokers of the 1960s did it?
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Its almost entirely javascript with a hell of a lot of preloading going on. Its a very good system actually, Im amazed that everything works identically in both IE and Firefox.
I just tested to three hotmail accounts, invites and standard emails get through fine. Not sure about yahoo tho.
Balmer saying linux is a cancer is attacking the product, not the owners/developers of the product. This Brazilian saying MS is ussing drug dealer like tactics in selling Windows is directly attacking the owners/developers of the product and not the product itself. That my friend is the difference between marketing and defamation.
Mbox & Maildir to Gmail Loader (GML) by Mark Lyon
*** Can't open file or directory. Is the path correct? ***
Usage: gml.exe [mbox or maildir] [mbox file or maildir path] [gmail address] [Optional SMTP Server]
Exmpl: gml.exe mbox "c:\mail\Inbox" marklyon@gmail.com
Exmpl: gml.exe maildir "c:\mail\Inbox" marklyon@gmail.com gsmtp171.google.com
The mbox file does exist in the place specified, and is fully readable. Any ideas? Cheers
I have mod points, but im going to set them aside to say this: They DO occur in nature, as seen in this very experiment. If they didnt exist, or they were forbidden from existing, then we would never see them in any experiments we conduct. Just because we are causing them to appear by doing various things doesnt mean that the products of such an experiment is outside the scope of nature, and by saying "They dont occur in nature" simply ignores the fact that we are part of nature. If nature didnt want something to happen or occur, we would know about it.
Theres one problem with this way of thinking, the TV scales the picture, the webbrowser doesnt scale the page, it just makes it fit. This leaves out scaling on images, text, and other stuff which gives a lot of pages a squashed or out of proportion look.
When there becomes available a technology to allow the end users browser to automatically scale the entire webpage competantly, i will begin designing purely scalable sites, but until then, my pages will have a recommended minimum size and a recommended maximum size. This is purely for asthetics, but if webdesigners werent after asthetics, we would all be looking at webpages like gnu.org, functional but poor to the eye.
There is money to be made, but everytime a class action suit is brought, people on slashdot bitch about the fact that the laywers get the lions share of the settlement. Damned if you do, damned if you dont.
Same here, Altavista, Google, Gmail, and a lot of other sites are having intermittant connection issues.
Looks like Akamai have emptied their cache in UK ISPs/Telehouse.
I apologise for jumping on you, it was not my intention to. I was merely pointing out that if code is under the BSDL then it can hardly be "stolen". As a side, I dont think the BSD reference stack ever made it into a version of windows that made it to a customer, it was used internally to help develop the tcp stack they have now.
You are correct tho, MS has the same problems as Linux or any other high profile opensource codebase does, in that illegitimate code can be placed in by an unscroupulous individual without it being the groups intention to do so. I suspect that they do practice what they preach tho, and code is scrutanised to see if it could have possibly come from another location.
How can you steal something that is being offered free of charge to you? MS did not "steal" the BSD TCP stack, they used the reference code in a manner that was intended it to be used in.
An analogy for what you are saying, just to indicate how stupid your comment was, is: if you leave old clothes in a good will bag outside your front door for local charities to collect, and a charity comes and takes the bag, have they stolen those clothes? No, because this is precisely the outcome you intended. The BSD stack was intended for everyone to take and use.
The stack in NT was rewritten in its entirety during the mid 1990s, and none of the BSD reference code exists, apart from in some small utilities such as ftp.exe, and even then the terms of the BSDL is complied with fully.
As for "similiar violations" being found within the leaked code, I havent heard of any yet, and i sincerly doubt there will be any found. Whenever MS has used other peoples code, they have stuck rigidly to the terms of the license that the code is under, for example they distribute GPL applications as part of the Software For Unix toolkit, and provide the source code in full compliance with the GPL.
For all the stick they get, MS seem to be pretty positive about following the terms of the licensing laid down.
In that mindset then, people dont really pay taxes, they are just a middle man for their employers.
This arguement is pathetic at best, by releasing under the BSDL the government or the public LOOSE NOTHING, where as in your analogy above, they loose the use of a lane.
IF the project was released under the BSDL or a similiar license, both companies and the public have exactly the same starting point, so they gain exactly the same advantage. What each person does after that should be entirely up to them, the mere fact that someone decides to modify it and not release the changes does not change the fact that you have access to the origional code, THEY LOOSE NOTHING.
Under the GPL companies are discriminated against, as they cannot use code that they paid for within their own projects without loosing control of that projects sourcecode, so why should they have funded the governments code development in the first place? With the BSDL you allow everyone to get the same head start, and if a company decides to make money off it, well, then the public has the same chance to do so as well.
Companies pay taxes as well. If this were released into the public domain, or with a less laden license such as the BSDL, then both profit and non profit users would have the same starting position and no advantage over each other. Since companies help fund this, why shouldnt they be allowed to use the code in a closed manner? It doesnt diminish the value of the origional code release, and allows the funders to make use of it in a way that isnt dictated to them.
Unless they are blocking "outbound destination ports", then no matter what source port the spammers use, the traffic still gets filtered. Besides, outgoing smtp servers hardly ever send mail FROM port 25.
They have also been classed as a "Weapon of Mass Destruction" by the UN, because they have an effect outside the intended target, but the US still uses them. The UK and most other countries switched to tungsten after the first gulf war.
Apart from the fact that RGPs took out several Abrams M1A1 tanks during the course of the conflict. It would seem that the M1A1 has a flaw when dealing with close combat situations, its engine compartment isnt as protected as the rest of the system and could be taken out using an RPG.
Links:
Tank destroyed by mysterious weapon
Same story as above
Better story
There is now (since early 4.x versions) a command line version of PHP, for scripting purposes. All the benifits of mod_php in your scripts, and it is now installed by default along side the apache module. You can also acheive a similiar solution using the cgi binary.
It didnt fall by the wayside, it evolved into the chips Macs use now. It was a fairly good progression as well!
Contrast that to Microsoft's EULA for their Mobile Internet Toolkit code which prohibits you from combining their code with ANY open source code, regardless of license. Forget the distribution clause, Microsoft's code can't even be combined with open source code in house.
As is oft said about the GPL, if you dont like the license, write your own damn code. MS is well within its rights to specify what you can and cannot do with its code, just the same as Gnu can with the GPL and code under it.
But when it comes to Linux and free software, Microsoft wants you to think that if you even look at GPL'd code then your whole company could be "infected." And forget about downloading open source programs -- once their in, you might as well file chapter 11.
This also happens the other way round, many many times you hear people say "Dont look at proprietory code, you can be considered tainted if you do" when talking about opensource, the recent leak of the MS windows code brought many such cries on slashdot. Its basic Cover Your Arse.
Im no MS fanboi, but also Im no Linux fanboi, Im starting to hate the "Us and them" attitude spread by the Opensource factions, I can understand it when MS does it as they have shareholders to keep happy, and OSS is another competitor.
For sites such as slashdot, you get banned if you access the feed more than once an hour. This leads to RSS feeds being slightly pointless for high activity sites with such restrictions.
Not in all cases, and its basically unheard of for an appeal case, which this is. Its the Judges decision as to who to award costs to, if anyone at all, and he can award a percentage instead of the entire costs as well.
I hardly ever use my phone for texting, indeed I actually hate it. I bought 1000 sms credits from Clickatel.com, installed their client and also wrote my own email-to-sms connector and have been happy ever since. Oh, and and that 1000 credits cost me a bit under GBP 5, so its much much cheaper as well. I would happily recommend clickatel or a similiar service for texting if you are sitting at an internet connected pc all day.
replace their lost ad revenue yourself? At least offer them an alternative before you start deriding them for doing something. Oh, and where the hell do YOU get off selling your creation and then acting as if you have a say in it after that, you dont, you gave it up for money so dont preach to me.
Where in the GPs post did he say she was using a 10D? The camera she owns may be able to keep up, the 10D isnt the be all and end all of cameras (despite what my work collegue would have you think).
That arguement didnt help the pot smokers of the 1960s did it?