Your argument would be valid EXCEPT that the American guy came from the same country you aforementionned. Especially for the crusade argument. Thee were no american yes, but there were their ancestor there. So please share the guilt. America (N&S) did not pop out of nothing in existance. The people came from Europe.
Thus You can only start your comparison from the 17th century. As far as i can tell Burning on stakes occured hundred year ago in USA too. Should we also speaks of segregation which stopped only 50-60 years ago ? If we can say it really stopped... Frankly we can probably make a very long list of bad stuff which happenned on both side of the atlantic. Let us only compare the "now" and right now, we do NOT WANT to give you a few more year. You already had those 4 years ago. And you willingly (as a group) choose 4 more years of the same stuff.
I am seeing the first page of the draft and already I see talk about objects... Man.... Do they understand that *WE* do use fortran because of the mathematical bibliothek, the extremly well optimised high performance generated code even massive parallel calculation code ? If this things doesn't have the same performance as fortran *AND* is backward compatible with existing fortran programs it is dead in the water. Why do they think that most scientific out there I know of are still using fortran for ? Do they really think we need abstract stuff with object ? If we did we would use a c++ code+compiler, not fortran
Indeed a search of the spec says "no attempt at backward compatibility/this is a new language with little relation to fortran".
Nothing to see here. Somebody with new idea he thinks are nifty , and forgot from sight why fortran is still used now.
How about "explorer generated an exception" message I got yesterday ? Badaboum, menu, Taskbar, desktop everything was gone. Could not even call taskmanager to execute explorer again, had to reboot. Nothing, I repeat , nothing should bring explorer to generate exception and kill the machine. But still in some instance it does. I do not care if this is due to 3rd party stuff or not, fact is you can kill your machine due to OS problem, and this should not happen.
And even if this is only 1 example (can't make generalities out of example) this is one too much.
Quote : "It's a little like the split between theoretical physicists and experimental physicists. One group sits in their ivory towers while the others are making a ton of money in the real world."
You realize, that without theoretical physic, most expeirmental physicist and chemist would not go that much far ? Think relativity and Quantum Physic. You also realize that now the separation between theoretical physic and exprimental physic is blurring because except a few free landplot, they need each other for constant advancement ?
As for experiment physicist making a lot of money, I call bunk. All physicist I know of never earn a lot, whatever is there speciality. Now if you had said, biochemist, or cellular specialist you might have been right...
Does using a GPLed compiler make your executable GPL ed ? Does using a GPLed painrt program make your work GPL ed ? Does using a GPLed File System make all bit inside GPLed ? If no, why in the heck using a GPLed font make your document [the word and CONTENT of thereof] GPLed ?? You do not modify the font, you just use it. AT worst you should be forced to provide the source code (vector or whatever the font are done today). But certainly not any content unrelated to the font. If yes, the document is trully GPLed, then despite being an open source supporter I say "TRULY MS is right, GPL is a freaking viral licence" !
The most famous case being Galilleo being forced to retract und menace of excomunication and worse. Mind you, the church recognized its error... 400 year later in 1995+ if I recall correctly. So we can expect them to recognize the other terrible stuff maybe , by year 23789 or so.
Especially slavery, segregation and so on. Many are quick to point out country where 1st rate citizen and second rate citizen exists, but rather forget the tiny little bit about slavery and segragation later.
I mean it is clearly labelled "Carte Nationnale d'identite", did my mayor office cheat me and sell me a fake non existing national ID [naaaah] ? Or are you talking about things you do not know at all [most probable].
First and foremost THERE IS A NATIONAL ID. You are not forced to have one, but if you sign checks, I recommend you to have one or have a driving licence. Else you are SOL. Try giving a check with a birth certificate I wish you fun. Second you cannot be controlled at will, this is incorrect, but you CANNOT refuse to be controlled and this can happen anytime, anywhere if the procurator made an authorisation for this : "
Contrôle d'identité de police judiciaire
Le contrôle d'identité de police judiciaire est pratiqué sur instruction du procureur de la République pour la recherche d'infractions précises, dans des lieux et pour une période déterminés. " quote from a link from another poster.
So it is not at police DISCRETION but only on order of procurator in some specific cases.
But does not indictment means you are accused, and now it is the job of the prosecutor to proove the accusation : aka he is not yet judged ? If this is right then you have no ground of putting a statement like "he stole" or "he is a moron". Reserve your judgement until the end of the prosecution. And moderator, how can you moderate the parent post as insightful ? the guy has only been charged, not yet judged ! Is innocent until proven guilty only empty words in the US ??
But for exploring the moon, less than 2 light second away, frankly a remote controlled robot is far more than enough, and all decision making are on earth, without having to take tons of water, food, meatbags, air, and protection against radiation or whatnot. And that was I think the point of the poster. He was not in any respect speaking of implementing any decision making into a robot.
The rest of the world is getting the same treatment, to enter, let us say, the US for example. So how does it feel ? Last 23rd november there was a change in rule for EU country pass. Not machine-readable passport are required to get a Visa. Mind you those are VALID passport, only they do not have a codebar (for example some EU countires pass). I came in Texas 3 days after the new rule was passed. Naturally I had asked what the rule was 1 week before at the embassy and nobdoy TOLD ME THEY WERE CHANGING THE FREAKING RULE. Result : at the airport I got stuck there for 4+ freaking hours while they were asking me question the same over and over and over. And you are NOT ALLOWED to call your friends to tell 'em you are late. Actually you are not even allowed to use a cell phone at all. And that only because they cannot automatically read the pass and a guy has to enter the data with a keyboard. Haha. I have only 1 wish, that all those "nice" custom agent travel somewhere and get the same "nice" treatment. Just out of spite I also wish EU would introduce fingerprinting and mug shot for all US traveler incoming. I am freaking tired of the hassly in the US each time I have to go there, and it doesn't even increase security a bit, especially taking out my freaking shoe and my belt. Frankly it is a shame I am forced to do buissness there, I would rather make buissness in a more "open" country like UK. But the client wish to go to the US. A Pity the country is nice but getting in and out is becoming as bad as getting in as in East german republic 20 years ago... And I am talking out of experience here.
Like I doubt this is reinstall of OS especially that 39% of the user out there "delete" cookies monthly. This is in the next paragraph after this 58% quote.
If flash was used to really implement 1) as you purport I would agree, but 99% of the stuff out there is to add animation to the navigation (example : most official game site those day) and other gimmick, and frankly up until now, a dozen web page with a few picture isn't taking you 1200K as far as I know. Plain old html is the easiest to navigate, and read and load.
Look at all sort of reader, optical, or not. RFID is the cheapest you can set up and amss produce with the msot reliability. Official checking pass do not want to read it from far away (despite the wet dream of the tin foil hat crowd), they just want to read it reliably with the cheapest cost and the easiest way to deploy. Thus RFID even it needs to be shielded for privacy reason.
In some Pascal Classes (yeah... that was long ago) I got perfect scores without coming to the classes at all, whereas a lot of people had slightly above average. The professor decided to take action for the last exam, and put me in a corner, two desk away from everybody, and a SECOND professor came on to observe me for the whole exam. She admited as much afterward. Result : Everybody else got a bottom low score, and I still got my next to perfect score. It was clear from the question asked and the results, that the contrary to what she thougth happened : all people in all direction peeked at my papers, and I was not cheating. She discussed about it with me afterward but it was rather funny, if she had discussed with me and the other it would have gotten apparent that I already had a lot of pascal experience before university whereas the other student were "sinking" completly and lost. 5 Minutes conversation with student would had been enough to check that. But hey, professor speaking with student, the horror, the horrors....
Kinetic energy is 0.5*m.v*v. I guess that the probe is at least 370Kg (3700000 more than your bullet). So to reach the same kinetic energy they only need roughly 0.0005 of the velocity, that is 8 m/s-1. I tried a quick search and found it it is 370 kilos but could not find out what the speed is, but due to relative velocity difference you can bet it is faaaar more than your bullet in KE.
(DISCLAIMER : I do not know how the TCPA cpu will handle protected file.)
I do not know what sort of "encryption" layer will the CPU do, but I doubt this will be something complicated (If it was a slow encryption then imagine the playback time). If this is something which is hackable, then the solution is simple : Keep forever a 3Ghz Pentium somewhere without trusted computing then remove the HD from the trusted computing PC, put it as slave HD in the normal PC, hack all files trough, play back, burn on CD whatever. And for non-protected file you can directly burn them.
Moisture is probably more than enough to sustain lichen and bacteria colony. Especially that this does not get that hot (link from article say it all) and part are even snowy due to altitude. Actually it may be the driest desert but not the hotest. So getting water might be a problem but eveaporation mightnot be the biggest problem. Heck, even in sahara, where you have mostly sand, you have life.
THis is beyond-dilution test, not homeopathy. And again this is a pharmacologist/doctor/biologist which claim out extraodinary physical phenomena. This is Bevenist all over again. I will certainly read the article from this labor and wait if anything happens afterward because frankly if this prooved to be true there would be a BLOODY revolution in physics tommorow on the news. I would not be surprised if they find out AGAIN that the experimental process was flawed. Don't hold your breath.
For an a normal drug test there are two types of test. The one you do in labor (first on cells culture then later on cobaye animals) and later the one you do under hospital condition (on human). I am roughly simplyfying here. Those hospital test mostly consists in double blind experiment if possible (the patient do not know what they get, some get nothing (water/sugar) other get the substance, and neither the patient nor the experimentor at the starts know who is given what, only after the experiment is finished the experimentor can check from a reference number that this was the drug or sugar), or in the case where it is not humanly possible (for example cancer drug) where a live depends on it, then a simple hospital trial.
In the case of homeopathy this NEVER depend on life, but since this is only sugar (for any dilution beyond Avogadro number) they do not need the labor trial and can be tested directly on double blind. Fact is, all study I know of in double blind , the group getting the drug and the group getting nothing did not show any statistical difference. In other word their body reacted as if they got nothing (which they did... Since beyond 20CH I think , you have no active molecule).
In other word in double blind nobody has yet of today proved that homeopathy worked. Ever.
Now there are a serie of controversial experiment where ONE attempt to dilue some allergen substance, and then after enough dilution to ahve nothing of the alergen in the end liquid, attempt to make it react with Basophile (the so called bevenist experiment). Up until now all of those experiment yelding positive result where either downright fraud, or sloppy experimental design (forget to clean up, or bad dilution processes).
And seriously I doubt any new results will change that. This would be a MAJOR news for all physiker (physicist?)...
Frankly when people speaks of woodfen-acting, did they even saw SW 4-6 or SW 1-2 ? Also the problem might be that the actor "sound" like if what they told has not be worked over by a sound engineer, which can change a slighty ton, pitch and so on and make up a lot. The trailer at least interrested me.
Algebraic complete. Yeah That is it. Thanks. +5 Informative;). I remmember doing quaternion long ago in math sup. I am still thinking math is fun to do:).
I mean, it is rather ralatively lackluster on detail, but if the HD is only for song and photo snapshot this is a utter waste. It would be interresting if this can also be used to save SMS data (and on 3 gb you can save a lot) or phone call... THAT last feature would be rather nice. There is a lot of phone call I would wish I had a way to save it...
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Your argument would be valid EXCEPT that the American guy came from the same country you aforementionned. Especially for the crusade argument. Thee were no american yes, but there were their ancestor there. So please share the guilt. America (N&S) did not pop out of nothing in existance. The people came from Europe. Thus You can only start your comparison from the 17th century. As far as i can tell Burning on stakes occured hundred year ago in USA too. Should we also speaks of segregation which stopped only 50-60 years ago ? If we can say it really stopped... Frankly we can probably make a very long list of bad stuff which happenned on both side of the atlantic. Let us only compare the "now" and right now, we do NOT WANT to give you a few more year. You already had those 4 years ago. And you willingly (as a group) choose 4 more years of the same stuff.
I am seeing the first page of the draft and already I see talk about objects... Man.... Do they understand that *WE* do use fortran because of the mathematical bibliothek, the extremly well optimised high performance generated code even massive parallel calculation code ? If this things doesn't have the same performance as fortran *AND* is backward compatible with existing fortran programs it is dead in the water. Why do they think that most scientific out there I know of are still using fortran for ? Do they really think we need abstract stuff with object ? If we did we would use a c++ code+compiler, not fortran
Indeed a search of the spec says "no attempt at backward compatibility/this is a new language with little relation to fortran".
Nothing to see here. Somebody with new idea he thinks are nifty , and forgot from sight why fortran is still used now.
How about "explorer generated an exception" message I got yesterday ? Badaboum, menu, Taskbar, desktop everything was gone. Could not even call taskmanager to execute explorer again, had to reboot. Nothing, I repeat , nothing should bring explorer to generate exception and kill the machine. But still in some instance it does. I do not care if this is due to 3rd party stuff or not, fact is you can kill your machine due to OS problem, and this should not happen.
And even if this is only 1 example (can't make generalities out of example) this is one too much.
Quote : "It's a little like the split between theoretical physicists and experimental physicists. One group sits in their ivory towers while the others are making a ton of money in the real world."
You realize, that without theoretical physic, most expeirmental physicist and chemist would not go that much far ? Think relativity and Quantum Physic. You also realize that now the separation between theoretical physic and exprimental physic is blurring because except a few free landplot, they need each other for constant advancement ?
As for experiment physicist making a lot of money, I call bunk. All physicist I know of never earn a lot, whatever is there speciality. Now if you had said, biochemist, or cellular specialist you might have been right...
Does using a GPLed compiler make your executable GPL ed ? Does using a GPLed painrt program make your work GPL ed ? Does using a GPLed File System make all bit inside GPLed ? If no, why in the heck using a GPLed font make your document [the word and CONTENT of thereof] GPLed ?? You do not modify the font, you just use it. AT worst you should be forced to provide the source code (vector or whatever the font are done today). But certainly not any content unrelated to the font. If yes, the document is trully GPLed, then despite being an open source supporter I say "TRULY MS is right, GPL is a freaking viral licence" !
The most famous case being Galilleo being forced to retract und menace of excomunication and worse. Mind you, the church recognized its error... 400 year later in 1995+ if I recall correctly. So we can expect them to recognize the other terrible stuff maybe , by year 23789 or so.
Especially slavery, segregation and so on. Many are quick to point out country where 1st rate citizen and second rate citizen exists, but rather forget the tiny little bit about slavery and segragation later.
I mean it is clearly labelled "Carte Nationnale d'identite", did my mayor office cheat me and sell me a fake non existing national ID [naaaah] ? Or are you talking about things you do not know at all [most probable].
First and foremost THERE IS A NATIONAL ID. You are not forced to have one, but if you sign checks, I recommend you to have one or have a driving licence. Else you are SOL. Try giving a check with a birth certificate I wish you fun. Second you cannot be controlled at will, this is incorrect, but you CANNOT refuse to be controlled and this can happen anytime, anywhere if the procurator made an authorisation for this : " Contrôle d'identité de police judiciaire Le contrôle d'identité de police judiciaire est pratiqué sur instruction du procureur de la République pour la recherche d'infractions précises, dans des lieux et pour une période déterminés. " quote from a link from another poster.
So it is not at police DISCRETION but only on order of procurator in some specific cases.
But does not indictment means you are accused, and now it is the job of the prosecutor to proove the accusation : aka he is not yet judged ? If this is right then you have no ground of putting a statement like "he stole" or "he is a moron". Reserve your judgement until the end of the prosecution. And moderator, how can you moderate the parent post as insightful ? the guy has only been charged, not yet judged ! Is innocent until proven guilty only empty words in the US ??
But for exploring the moon, less than 2 light second away, frankly a remote controlled robot is far more than enough, and all decision making are on earth, without having to take tons of water, food, meatbags, air, and protection against radiation or whatnot. And that was I think the point of the poster. He was not in any respect speaking of implementing any decision making into a robot.
It not only takes forever but you have to take shoe out and your belt :P.
The rest of the world is getting the same treatment, to enter, let us say, the US for example. So how does it feel ? Last 23rd november there was a change in rule for EU country pass. Not machine-readable passport are required to get a Visa. Mind you those are VALID passport, only they do not have a codebar (for example some EU countires pass). I came in Texas 3 days after the new rule was passed. Naturally I had asked what the rule was 1 week before at the embassy and nobdoy TOLD ME THEY WERE CHANGING THE FREAKING RULE. Result : at the airport I got stuck there for 4+ freaking hours while they were asking me question the same over and over and over. And you are NOT ALLOWED to call your friends to tell 'em you are late. Actually you are not even allowed to use a cell phone at all. And that only because they cannot automatically read the pass and a guy has to enter the data with a keyboard. Haha. I have only 1 wish, that all those "nice" custom agent travel somewhere and get the same "nice" treatment. Just out of spite I also wish EU would introduce fingerprinting and mug shot for all US traveler incoming. I am freaking tired of the hassly in the US each time I have to go there, and it doesn't even increase security a bit, especially taking out my freaking shoe and my belt. Frankly it is a shame I am forced to do buissness there, I would rather make buissness in a more "open" country like UK. But the client wish to go to the US. A Pity the country is nice but getting in and out is becoming as bad as getting in as in East german republic 20 years ago... And I am talking out of experience here.
As another poster wrote in a thread above, some question do not include all vendor, and some are obviously slanted to force an answer in a direction.
Like I doubt this is reinstall of OS especially that 39% of the user out there "delete" cookies monthly. This is in the next paragraph after this 58% quote.
If flash was used to really implement 1) as you purport I would agree, but 99% of the stuff out there is to add animation to the navigation (example : most official game site those day) and other gimmick, and frankly up until now, a dozen web page with a few picture isn't taking you 1200K as far as I know. Plain old html is the easiest to navigate, and read and load.
Look at all sort of reader, optical, or not. RFID is the cheapest you can set up and amss produce with the msot reliability. Official checking pass do not want to read it from far away (despite the wet dream of the tin foil hat crowd), they just want to read it reliably with the cheapest cost and the easiest way to deploy. Thus RFID even it needs to be shielded for privacy reason.
In some Pascal Classes (yeah... that was long ago) I got perfect scores without coming to the classes at all, whereas a lot of people had slightly above average. The professor decided to take action for the last exam, and put me in a corner, two desk away from everybody, and a SECOND professor came on to observe me for the whole exam. She admited as much afterward. Result : Everybody else got a bottom low score, and I still got my next to perfect score. It was clear from the question asked and the results, that the contrary to what she thougth happened : all people in all direction peeked at my papers, and I was not cheating. She discussed about it with me afterward but it was rather funny, if she had discussed with me and the other it would have gotten apparent that I already had a lot of pascal experience before university whereas the other student were "sinking" completly and lost. 5 Minutes conversation with student would had been enough to check that. But hey, professor speaking with student, the horror, the horrors....
Kinetic energy is 0.5*m.v*v. I guess that the probe is at least 370Kg (3700000 more than your bullet). So to reach the same kinetic energy they only need roughly 0.0005 of the velocity, that is 8 m/s-1. I tried a quick search and found it it is 370 kilos but could not find out what the speed is, but due to relative velocity difference you can bet it is faaaar more than your bullet in KE.
(DISCLAIMER : I do not know how the TCPA cpu will handle protected file.) I do not know what sort of "encryption" layer will the CPU do, but I doubt this will be something complicated (If it was a slow encryption then imagine the playback time). If this is something which is hackable, then the solution is simple : Keep forever a 3Ghz Pentium somewhere without trusted computing then remove the HD from the trusted computing PC, put it as slave HD in the normal PC, hack all files trough, play back, burn on CD whatever. And for non-protected file you can directly burn them.
Moisture is probably more than enough to sustain lichen and bacteria colony. Especially that this does not get that hot (link from article say it all) and part are even snowy due to altitude. Actually it may be the driest desert but not the hotest. So getting water might be a problem but eveaporation mightnot be the biggest problem. Heck, even in sahara, where you have mostly sand, you have life.
THis is beyond-dilution test, not homeopathy. And again this is a pharmacologist/doctor/biologist which claim out extraodinary physical phenomena. This is Bevenist all over again. I will certainly read the article from this labor and wait if anything happens afterward because frankly if this prooved to be true there would be a BLOODY revolution in physics tommorow on the news. I would not be surprised if they find out AGAIN that the experimental process was flawed. Don't hold your breath.
For an a normal drug test there are two types of test. The one you do in labor (first on cells culture then later on cobaye animals) and later the one you do under hospital condition (on human). I am roughly simplyfying here. Those hospital test mostly consists in double blind experiment if possible (the patient do not know what they get, some get nothing (water/sugar) other get the substance, and neither the patient nor the experimentor at the starts know who is given what, only after the experiment is finished the experimentor can check from a reference number that this was the drug or sugar), or in the case where it is not humanly possible (for example cancer drug) where a live depends on it, then a simple hospital trial.
In the case of homeopathy this NEVER depend on life, but since this is only sugar (for any dilution beyond Avogadro number) they do not need the labor trial and can be tested directly on double blind. Fact is, all study I know of in double blind , the group getting the drug and the group getting nothing did not show any statistical difference. In other word their body reacted as if they got nothing (which they did... Since beyond 20CH I think , you have no active molecule). In other word in double blind nobody has yet of today proved that homeopathy worked. Ever.
Now there are a serie of controversial experiment where ONE attempt to dilue some allergen substance, and then after enough dilution to ahve nothing of the alergen in the end liquid, attempt to make it react with Basophile (the so called bevenist experiment). Up until now all of those experiment yelding positive result where either downright fraud, or sloppy experimental design (forget to clean up, or bad dilution processes). And seriously I doubt any new results will change that. This would be a MAJOR news for all physiker (physicist?)...
Frankly when people speaks of woodfen-acting, did they even saw SW 4-6 or SW 1-2 ? Also the problem might be that the actor "sound" like if what they told has not be worked over by a sound engineer, which can change a slighty ton, pitch and so on and make up a lot. The trailer at least interrested me.
Algebraic complete. Yeah That is it. Thanks. +5 Informative ;). I remmember doing quaternion long ago in math sup. I am still thinking math is fun to do :).
I mean, it is rather ralatively lackluster on detail, but if the HD is only for song and photo snapshot this is a utter waste. It would be interresting if this can also be used to save SMS data (and on 3 gb you can save a lot) or phone call... THAT last feature would be rather nice. There is a lot of phone call I would wish I had a way to save it ...