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Samsung Cell Phone Features 3GB Hard Drive
An anonymous reader writes "Samsung will be showing off a new cell phone which runs on Microsoft's Windows Mobile operating system which features a built-in hard drive. The SGH-I300 will offer 3GB of storage which allows you to store up to 1,000 songs on it for playback through the music player. The 3GB hard drive is similar to the type of hard drive that is found in Apple's Mini iPod. These 1-inch drives with very low power requirements, are ideal for cell phones and other mobile devices."
The friendly article is pretty light on details, given it's overclockerclub.com.
Engadget stated that the phone supports MP3, WMA, AAC, and AAC+ audio files, and a plug-and-play drag-and-drop no-brainer way of transferring files as you please.
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That's amazing how far things have come. I remember only ten years ago we were lucky to have 3GB in a desktop computer let alone something like a phone :lol:. then again most of us didn't have or need cellphones :shakehead:
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Makes you wonder if we'll have 120 and 200GB drives in our cell phones in 2015
yay. thanks.
that's nice... but does it run linux?
My cell phone does not need:
Camera
Pop Music Ring Tones
Color Display
Java
Videogames
Internet Access
I just want a phone. That will last me all week without having to recharge it, talking on it 2 hours a day. And it has to be small and light, and it can't break if I drop it on the floor. Waterproof would be nice. And it needs to hold about 400-500 phone numbers. Fewer dropped calls and better reception would be nice as well.
Not very good for a HDD, tell me when they make a 30GB one, I'd buy that even if I do have to use Windows Mobile!
...but how long do you think it will be, before this opens up the door to massive conversation-recording? All it needs is an ambitious hacker, right? You have the phone, and you have an integrated audio storage device. Oy, the possibilities...
Mmmmmm... Bold, yet refreshing!
...but first you need to convince me why a cell phone needs a hard drive to begin with.
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But Apple has the good sense not to try to cram OS X-mini onto the iPod hard disk. Instead a much simpler, special purpose OS does the job simply and well. But cram Windows-mini onto a hard disk, and well, you've wasted a lot of space for no real valid reason.
Plus the delicious treat of viruses headed your way as a brand new target sits there and says, "Attack me, please."
Why can't people realize that special-purpose devices work best with special-purpose OSes?
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Think of all of the contacts that I could store on 3 gigs! After all, it is a phone...
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...unit of memory? I guess we can blame it on Apple. How long before we start seeing hard drives advertised as storing megasongs or gigasongs? My first computer didn't even hold a millisong!
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So with 3gb drive and Windoze Mobile installed, that leaves what about 6k available for user use?
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I never tought I was gonna see this at slashdot, it is mainly marketing buzzwords. How many songs depends on bitrate! If they by this means that the FS only can handle 1,000 files (I guess not), then this is bad.
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I sure don't. As flimsy as today's cell phones are, they are susceptiple to failing from a slight shake without the added risk of a hard disk. Add another fragile device to this picture.. Oh my god... I personally prefer not to have a moving part other than the flip cover and the pull out antenna on my cell phone.
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Instead of your call being dropped for whatever reason, Windows Mobile will reboot the cell phone automatically to prevent the user from seeing the blue screen of death. Great...
i dont need color, teletext,hdtv , 600+lines, interactivity, choice
who cares if you are a luddite, you think these phone companies just make stuff for the hell of it or because people demand those features
personally i love em , shame about running on MS but i want all those features and more !
imagine a beowulf cluster of these babies! ...but can it run linux?
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Shit,
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we've been waiting for their Palm OS Phones SGH-i500, i530 and whatever they were called, anounced afaik at CeBit April 2003, then delayed and delayed, and delayed, cancelled??? I don't know.
Dear Samsung, somehow you managed to make me wait for for the SGH-i530 and now I'm completely disappointed
No Samsung in my shopping cart. Never ever.
This is silly. Every time a new cell phone appears which has features somebody doesn't like, they post another ridiculous rant like yours, as if nobody should ever manufacture something YOU don't want.
Did Jesus die and leave you in charge? Is your name GW Bush by any chance?
And some other idiot moderated your post as insightful. Yeh, right.
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That must mean they have a max 1 gig of free space?
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Those hard drives must be hell on battery life, low-power or not.
:-M
...you still won't be able to get anything onto or off of that drive without paying for both a monthly subscription and a per-file fee.
(USCC will sell you a camera phone, but thy have disabled the phone to disallow the use of a local connection cable to upload or download any audio or graphics. Nice, huh.)
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
run on the OS, the OS runs on the Cell phone.
Try to get the whole hardware/software thing sorted; it sounds a lot more credible.
3GB?!? That's 3x more HD space than this Sparcstation5 I'm trying to install linux on. Cripes!
Exactly.
Make my phone a phone. I already have a laptop. Just make the phone work more reliably and for longer periods at a time.
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The real reason Motorola delayed unveiling their iTunes compatible phones TODAY. As they said, it was NOT the carriers that caused it. The more things change the more they stay the same, thanks a lot Bill.
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In California at least, you cannot legally record a phone call without permission of both parties, or maybe you have to announce it at the beginning and put in that periodic beep.
I personally think it a waste of a law which can't be enforced except as to making it inadmissable in court, and simultaneously wish it were enforceable. As far as I am concerned, that conversation belongs to everyone in the conversation, and they should all have veto over its uses. I really resented Amazon making purchase history available to the general public for sufficiently large domain names; that info belongs to the domain name owner also, and amazon has no right to unilaterally make it public.
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Just don't drop it... there goes your shiny new $$$$ investment.
With all these new features they're adding to phones nowadays, I sure hope they try to make them durable enough to last at least several drops from several feet.
I mean, who hasn't dropped their celphone? Multiple times??
I wish these people would just say 'It has a 3GB HDD' or something, instead of 'It can hold up to 1000 songs!!'.
Which is not to say that you're wrong about the security issues. Or that cramming MP3 and PDA functionality into a phone is a good idea. But Samsung and its competitors seem to prefer feature-bloated phones to simple phones that interoperate -- probably because they don't make any money off of the devices they interoperate with.
a hard drive running windows embedded our eyeglasses.
Now THAT would be useful way more useful than 10 zillion different ringtones on your cellphone.
think about it -- with a special one-way reflective coating on the lenses, we can just download pr0n all day at work or school, and people will think we're dilligently paying attention to our duties.
Is a cell phone that does everything. Yes, I've heard the whining from people who just want a cell phone to be a phone, but from my perspective, the fewer devices I have to manage, the better.
Imagine you're going on vacation. You could pack:
- Your camcorder
- MP3 player
- digital camera
- PDA
- Personal video player
- Personal tv
- Cellphone
Or, you could just take your:Right now, we do have the technology to incorporate all of these features into one device with the form factor of a small notebook or PDA. Instead, people spend 5 times the amount of money on discrete appliances, and then have the added burden of having to carry them all. And then they whine because their phone isn't just a phone - as if they enjoy having dozens of electronic gadgets lying around the house, waiting to get lost, stolen, forgotten, etc...
I'm tired of using a dozen different gadgets to do what could easily be integrated into one. If cellphone manufacturers are going to break into new markets, their phones are going to have to be more than just phones.
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Ya those days were great. Remeber the "Car Phone" A phone in a bag that weighed 10 pounds... yes those were the good ol days.
Or not...
Do you think in some secret lab somewhere deep within the walls of a mobile phone company there are prototypes of cell phones with all sorts of things attached to them?
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Personally, I don't even want a portable phone, as people tend to annoy me.
When will this end? What's next, a pacemaker with built-in mp3?
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What happens when you (inevitably) drop your phone? Does the probable HD headcrash kill the phone?
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Sure. And I do everyday. It's my iPod.
A publicly traded company exists solely to make profits for shareholders.
Can you play the MP3's as hold music?
Maybe this is why Motorola has delayed their iTunes Phone launch today. It couldn't compete with this.
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I mean, it is rather ralatively lackluster on detail, but if the HD is only for song and photo snapshot this is a utter waste. It would be interresting if this can also be used to save SMS data (and on 3 gb you can save a lot) or phone call... THAT last feature would be rather nice. There is a lot of phone call I would wish I had a way to save it ...
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I want my 7 Megapixel Digital camera phone with the 3GB harddrive that I can boot my linux PPC system from...
Oh, and $19.95 seems fair too!
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Samsung released a phone with a 1.5GB HDD last year (Info) and it's nothing short of awful. It's fat, heavy, only supports some silly proprietary format and has to check drive consistency when you copy any file onto it. If you want to copy numerous files, like say a collection of music, it checks after every single file not after all of them have been copied. They also recalled it before re-releasing it due to reliability issues. Fortunately, only Koreans will ever have to deal with it.
I certainly hope Samsung has learned a few important lessons since its last foray into this field.
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Of course, THIS phone is a samsung phone, so I wouldn't want to carry it around. It's amazing how poor-quality their phones are. That vga1000 phone that people seem to love so much is a big piece of shit from both the hardware and software points of view, and every samsung phone I've held has felt flimy. I also extend the same criticism to nokia - the honda civic of the cellphone world. Made to be cheap and there's a zillion customizations, does not handle abuse AT ALL.
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...but come on - I guess I could conceivably end up with an uber-gadget that is my phone, gps, iPod, PDA, universal remote, pedometer, Speedpass, web browser, biometric verifier, flash drive, camera, pager, video player, voice activated game console, garage door opener, pill timer, and nose hair trimmer, but do I want it?
It's pretty much the current definition of jack of all trades, master of none. The browsers all suck wind from the first click. No way the phone camera matches the 4MP with optical zoom and full controls. With my luck, I'd go to open the garage door and dial the Pentagon, who'd read the fix from my GPS and catch me screaming "Attack! Attack! - No, use the sniper rifle!" in the middle of a Halo session...
So it's really just a away of any one manufacturer making sure you buy the whiz-bangiest phone instead of someone else's.
What if I lose it? Right now I keep track of my GPS, iPod, camera and cell phone. Suppose I lose one device. I'm either out a copy of my music, or my most recent photos, or a location fix, or my phone. Lose the uber-device and I'm out all of them at once.
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The reason i don't want a hard drive in my phone is the same as the reason i'm not going to buy an ipod till they do large flash based ones: i want to be able to throw the thing around, drop it, etc, and not have to worry about anything except having to buy a new cover. Or do these hard drives have less problems with being dropped and generally abused that might be expected?
If it was easy you'd have such a device by now.
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My phone gets abused. It goes for rides in bags pants and jackets, it tumbles with me through bike crashes. It will get dropped. it will take a hard falls.
I don't think I want a mechanical drive in my phone.
It's just another thing to break making me upgrade a piece of equipment that never really needed a hard drive in the first place.
Well, does it?
But you must admit that this is the best place for trolling :-)
You make a lot of statements here as a reply to half a sentence statement.
...Who are you to tell me I shouldn't have that? Who are you to say a very successful company hasn't done their market research?"
" smug little luddite like yourself posts: why isn't a phone just a phone and a word processor just a typewriter?
The grandparent post didn't say, imply or suggest anything like you read into his statement. It seems you have taken the idea that someone somewhere doesn't need a hard-drive in their phone as a ad hem attack against you.
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Too bad it'll be 10 years before we get decent phones like this in the US. Just because companies make them doesn't mean we'll ever get to use them.
Apple better launch an iPOD cell phone line. Watch out Apple.
Not even the flip cover of my old Motorola StarTac resisted when I forgot it in my pant pocket and sat down on it. So, next phone was a Nokia with no moving part at all.
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Just 3 gigs? But I want a:
Digital Camera
MP3 Player
Voice Recorder
PDA
TV
GPS-Navigation Unit
Scanner
Video Game Machine
Coffee Maker
Dishwasher
Car Remote Control
That runs on Windows. Will 3 gigs be enough?
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GP is insightful, but P is a troll? Hint: the parent comment and this comment have exactly the same spirit. It's only trolling if you espouse a view to which you do not subscribe and portray it as if you believed it, in order to receive a specific response from someone. If you think my above comment is a troll, you do not know what the word means. Go plague some other website. (Now THAT is sincere as hell.) THIS comment is offtopic. The parent is insightful to me but I don't particularly think it's worth positive moderation, either; it's sure as hell not a troll.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
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When I bought a new phone to replace my 3310, I tried to break it, I had to use a hammer to damage the cover, the LCD had nothing, I had to remove the cover to break the LCD.
Of course my little sister achieved to break a siemens phone just by transporting it in her backpack, so yes siemens phones are crap but not nokia phones.
i wish i had mod points, or i would.
Considering the increasing number of Window Mobile and Symbian smartphones on the market, it would seem like a smart move would be to release versions of iTunes for these platforms... rather than depend on the whims of a specific hardware vendor (motorola).
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or http://www.itshappening.com/
On Samsung's web site they have CEBIT coverage. In that coverage they show the SGH-Z700. The specs are stating OggPlayer and H.264.
How's that!!!
Maybe now you can stop complaining about Ogg not on phones?
So, my phone is just about as basic as it could get, and most of the bare minimum features it came with, I'm just not using. I store about two dozen phone numbers on it, I call people, I accept incoming calls, and I use my voicemail. I've never used text messaging, or played a game on my cell phone. I don't want my phone to be a substandard camera; if I want to take pictures I want a multi-megapixel digital jobbie with real optics in it. I think pop music ringtones are just stupid; I keep my phone in my pocket on vibrate most of the time just so I don't come off as a giant anus every time someone rings me up when I'm in a public place.
But, instead of just ranting about how I think all this extra whizz-bang is wasteful, stupid, and whatnot, I spent a couple minutes thinking about what I *would* like to have in my cellphone. What extra feature would I pay to have? I've got a good idea. A genius one:
Television and Radio. Once, many years ago, I owned a handheld backlit LCD television. It was a thing of beauty; a few ounces of mass, a two-inch screen, and a telescoping antenna. It was great to have in lots of places. It had a 1/8" mono jack for plugging in headphones or an earpiece. Its integrated speaker was adequate as well.
Now, this was about ten years ago. I know the technology for LCDs has come a long way. I know that device would easily fit into a cellphone today. So, do it. And add AM/FM radio. Then, give me TiVo functionality for the TV and radio (I'm sure the television video scaled down for the phone display would compress pretty damn well!). If my phone had all that, I could justify paying for a hard drive in it.
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Actually, that's pretty cool.
Well, Considering I can buy a 4GB Compact Flash card they could very well do that. Cost is probably higher but I think that the power usage is lower.
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Windows on a Cell phone? I can see it how: "Hey man, I lost you, did you drive under a tunnel or something?" "No... My phone just BSOD'ed."
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..but your call cannot be completed at this time. Please run a complete surface scan and try your call again. This is a recording."
If the drives are modular and easily removable, I smell a great line of repair work to get into.
If my grammar and spelling are off, I am [distracted/tired/careless] (take your pick)
Your camcorder - No, I'd rather enjoy my vacation than sit around recording it.
[[[Guess you don't realize that some people have children. And they like to record the joy of their children at Disney World. I don't have children, but I understand such.]]]
MP3 player - No, that is an entertainment device. If you go on a vacation and have to bring something with you to keep you busy, you picked the wrong vacation.
[[[Guess you've never flown for 6 hours from NY to LA, or longer to Europe or Asia. I guess you've never wanted to pop on a little classical music to help filter out the drone of the jet engines so you can nap.]]]
digital camera - See above
[[[really, wow...I went to San Diego and got some great pictures of seals, and other unique experiences. Also, was able to take pictures of childhood memories to show friends back home.]]]
PDA - See above
[[[Goodness, it's so nice to have my address book in my phone. Call friends when I'm in the neighborhood. Not only that, I put the hotel, car rental and several restaurant and museum addresses and phone numbers in it.]]]
Personal video player - See above
Personal tv - See above
[[[Long flight, no theatre on this plane...sure glad I brought my own.]]]
Cellphone - Unless the call was important or was outgoing for an emergency, my voice mail would probably say something like "I do not want to talk to you. I am on vacation. In closing, go away."
[[[Hey, gone for two weeks - want to check up on our daughter. Hey, need ot make that reservation for dinner tonight. Forgot to do it at the hotel. Sure glad I've got my cell phone.]]]
And blast it, add the fricken GPS...cause those map directions are always wrong.
This doesn't even count for many business men and women who travel often and need several of these features. Yes, even the camera. Guess it's nice to send a picture of video to the kids or wife saying "I love you, and look what I got little Johnny"
*grin*
Don't want it - fine...but please STFU! Thank You!
And in 2015, your flying car will still be 20 years away.
I still have one of those Casio handheld TVs :-)
... in Japan!
Anyway, there are phones with TV (and maybe FM) reception
Seriously, I've read a while ago about a Japanese phone which could do half of what you want. A quick search revealed that it really was a Sharp, as I suspected: Sharp V402SH, the pink one. It's only a matter of time before a cross between that phone and this Samsung appears, then you'd be able to do anything, although I don't think that the battery would last more than a few hours in recording mode.
I know Verizon does the same thing, so that they can sell you ringtones and graphics, and charge you for data transfers with the data plans. Since I got AT&T (now Cingular) I'm able to transfer sounds (ringtones) pictures and themes over BlueTooth (USB optional) to my computer without hassle. That alone is worth getting Cingular (the excellent nationwide coverage, kick-ass GSM phones and rollover minutes are also nice). The only thing you can't transfer directly to the computer is the games. US Cellular is quite possibly the most user-hostile provider in existence, not to mention being expensive and using the crappy CDMA network and phones.
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See here: http://www.davespda.com/index.php?itemid=268 "The device is based on the next generation of Windows Mobile (known as Magneto). The screen is QVGA, meaning that the resolution is the same of a standard Pocket PC but on the smaller Smartphone sized screen. Unlike most devices, the directional pad is a rotational wheel music like the iPod (an obvious direct competitor of this device. The device measures 4.45" x 1.89" x 0.79" and weights 4.59 ounces. It is GSM/GPRS and does not support EDGE. USB 2.0 is present and allows the device to act like a flash drive so music does not have to be copied via ActiveSync. Bluetooth is included so wireless headphones can be used."
Not the parent poster.
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...a fun subthread, hope you are monitoring it being AC and all. Do you want to limit it to cellphones, or is anything fairgame? BTW, all hail fellow neogeezer! Kinda neat how you can learn to spot patterns and trends, isn't it?
Anyway, Cellphones are the real PDAs, this should be obvious by now, they are winning the portable do-dad wars handily. Small do everything combo communications devices and more, tiny full function computers basically. Most anything you can do on a desktop or laptop you can at least get close enough for govt work on the cellpda convegence device. This is the more or less the now and the close to now immediate future.
The big problems with them are tiny screens, and inputing, all the options we have now still suck, and badly, they are kludges on top of compromises.
Keypads of whatever congfig out there now are just too freaking small, onscreen touch or offscreen mash a button. They sucketh large.(and as the population ages, this will become more consumer apparent) So, the next big thing is going to have to be advanced speech recognition to control the phone, even beyond what they have now. It has to be able to run all the apps, including web browsers, etc. Opera is well ahead in this regard (as it has been with browsing in general for quite a long time and it "gets it" with cellphone browsers). It will also be predictive, have some sort of AI that learns your habits and will automagically "do stuff" that you normally do, especially if you are organized and a "sequencer". After you "train" your phone speaking to it should be minimal.
Next is the display, this is obviously harder. sound input is easy size wise,mic->in jack is pretty small or a pinhole mic, etc, no probs for speech recognition and control there. But visual display is a bother. You can't have small in physical size and big in physical screen, so-o-o-o, the screen will *have* to extend outside the physical size of the device, s-o-o, that means holographic display or something pretty darn close to that. Short of retinal implants or those dorky glasses they have now with the screen off to the side that forces you to be blind as you walk around, that's about it for doing a large enough display. It will have to expand and fill a space in front of you, and be quite large enough to be fully functional and *nice*.
Your turn (or anyone's, I love futurist projections)
Dude, make that phone I'm in. But only if it comes with a good anti-virus.
The new slashdot-enabled phone should have a horrible message board interface, lots of useless text messages, a dictionary of buzzwords, and spam messages every 5 minutes. Then I'd feel very comfortable spending time with it.
No? Then I dont want it.
You have just mistaken an opinion different from your own from a troll. You are a mental midget with the IQ of a fencepost.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I love how expressing a concern that something lacks a feature you require, is considered a troll these days. Such enlightened times.
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