Sure, she plays the ones they mention..The Sims, Roller Coaster Tycoon, (She likes anything sandboxy and expandable really). As well, we both like the Pop-cap style of small games, (who doesn't)
However the tastes go beyond that..
Everything from Baldur's Gate:Dark Alliance and Legend of Mana to Final Fantasy IX and Might and Magic VI and VII. (She is obessed with those games. One challenge she made is to beat a temple full of Lich's at as low of a level as possible. Her lowest is 6!)
Doom and Blood (Her personal fav) to Jedi Knight II. Diablo II for a while as well.
Burnout, Sonic Advendture II Battle.
All of the Mario games for the most part. Perfect Dark/007. Even Ikaragua for crying out loud.
Among many others. (The one thing we agree with is a dislike for the "classics". Outside Bubble Bobble, there is not many old games we really enjoy)
What is the point?
Women gamers are no different than men gamers. Each have their own tastes, likes and dislikes. Trying to lump them in a completely seperate catagory..to be honest is sexist and counter-productive. Make good games and women will play them, if they want to.
That is why I purchase media that I really enjoy. (Well, aside from the increased quality)
I want to reward stuff that I like, so they can keep on making more of that stuff. I'm voting with my wallet.
One of the problems I see, is that a lot of people don't vote with their wallet anymore, which skewers the types of projects that are undertaken. (Although when it comes to movies, the CW is rather positive I think)
For Multi-player games, my name goes between CashCarSTAR (tSP song) DarkPaladin (my original) Karmakin (Newest one and my current fav)
For single-player games, I never change names if the name is set, with one exception. In Chrono Trigger, I rename Frog to Glenn to clear up some sillyness, as well as so I can actually have a character with my own name. (And such a GOOD character, in every way)
When I need to create names, I use generic names, in order to facilitate easy gameplay. In Wizadry for the SNES, for example, I named them after the role they played with a number. (Because of the alignment system, I kept working parties of both good and evil people and jumped between them)
Agreed, but go one step further. Even if you vote with your wallet, the companies are so full of hubris, that they would never believe that people are staying away because of DRM. They would blame piracy, fraud, or simply lie about it.
You bought it, it's yours. You can do whatever you want with it, besides distribute it to other people.
I don't give two cares that you guys are linking to another part of your own network. You do not need to tell me that.
In fact, it doesn't matter one bit. Give preference to all the OSDN sites, I don't care. If you ignore good stuff on the other sites, Slashdot dies. I don't think that will happen.
Nintendo, at this point will always be a bit-player in the console market. That is not necessarly a bad thing, it's just market reality.
Nobody wants to compete with Nintendo's first party games. They so dominate the system (in reality they dominate all the systems for the most part). No 3rd party games, equals no broad support.
Nintendo really is the Apple of the video game world business wise. Selling to a small group of people for a good profit.
On the other hand, I think that the PS2 has it's lead just because it was the first in. More consoles sold=more games=more consoles sold. Sure the games don't look quite as nice, but it's still spectacular enough.
It'll be interesting to see what happens for the next Generation. If Nintendo jumps on with a competitive All-in-one system, (GC 2, GC and GBA support) Quite frankly, they still could slug it out with Sony.
Actually the music drove me nuts too...but usually it's worse on an emulator.
The Final Fantasy games pushed the SNES sound chip to the limit, to be honest. The sounds were made speciically to work with it. On the PSX, it's just not the same, on an emulator it's worse.
Online gaming, to be honest, is overrated.Deatchmatching, to be honest is a waste. Good team-play as well is hard to find. What is fun??
MMORPGs, if you have the time and the money.
Diablo II, for the co-op play.
Counter-Strike and Day of Defeat for team-based FPS
Strategy games
Subspace/Continum for serious skill-based team competition. That's about it.
All PC apps..to be honest. Everything else, IMO dies with typical lag for online games. Predictive models break down for platforming/fighting type games.
Nintendo has the right idea. Ultra-tight controls are wasted on online play. It just would be sub-par for what I expect. Now, I would like to see Nintendo bring out an online adapter for the next-gen, so the option is there. But there's no way to really do it well on a console, so why dilute the quality of what matters? Local competition and one-player goodness.
The NintendoStation would have been a SegaCD sized flop. Add-on perpherials tend to not do good. With all three companies killing themselves off, console gaming would have died a quick, ugly death.
Most people I know who have XBoxen use them as a media center. Mostly to hook up to their sound system to play MP3s, movies, and other things..although...
While we do that, might as well use it to play burnt games. That's a secondary function.
There's not just competition between games. There is competition between consoles to get those games. Piracy increases the installed base, which looks good to the bean-counters, there-go the lack of GC ports.
In Nintendo's case, I think their business mdoel for the Game Cube revolves around a higher profit margin on lower system sales, so it works for them. Business wise.
One suggestion. End the stupid region lock-out. They'll make much more profit if they do that overall. (To be honest, I can't think of a single reason to have a region lock-out at this point)
Seriously. That is too much old-school goodness in one package. Everything from Gauntlet to Rampart to Smash TV.
Hell, I'd buy it for those games alone.
Now, 20 games in one package. I'm glad that someone got serious about re-relesing their games. With any luck, this will bring on a storm of quality packages of older games, rather than the 4 game stupidness.
I think the question asked is "Is it moral?", of course the legality of it leaves little to doubt. However the morals of it, leave a lot of discussion.
This conversation usually is rather interesting, for the most part. here's the way I look at it.
Rewarding the producer is a good and moral thing.
What is more moral. Downloading a ROM image or buying a used cart? The second right?
How? The producer is left in the dirt, and money that WOULD have spent on that product is instead in the product of a third party. Not exactly a moral outcome, is it?
Sure, the reseller has that right (I agree totally), but from the producer type of view, it's still a lost sale. Execpt that one is legal and the other illegal. (But both the same from the producers POV)
So are ROMs moral? For anything that one can not buy an original shrinkwrapped copy, they not really moral, but not the opposite either. It's sort of like a tree falling in the woods with nobody around. Not really doing much of anything.
My suggestion? It's the same for everything. We appoint a copyright court. The standard is, you keep copyright as long as you keep distributing the product at a competitive price. You decide that it is too expensive and not profitable enough to release. Fine. Either release it to the public domain, or risk a challenge being made. If you lose the challenge, you pay the legal bills of the winner. Simple as that.
I appriciate the feeling, but I would go one step further.
Why is it, that individuals are expected to keep to the highest level of moral being, yet when it comes to buisness, we can throw all that out the window, all in the name of profit?
What is legal, and what is not aside, morality is a very important thing in a society. Extremely important. However, what are we teaching our youth? Forget video games, music, whatever media, we teachour gets to get whatever you can get while the getting is good. A majority ofthe social ills in our society can come directly down to that ethos! Why is it bad when it's for me, but ok when it's for you?
Now, I'm not a communist, I believe in a free market. But I think people need to be held to good moral standard. A company that is gouging consumers, is strictly immoral, no matter what you want to say about it. A company that is above-board, creating a product people want, selling it at a reasonable price and making a reasonable profit, is acting in a very moral behaviour.
Terrorists might be too strong, but they are a social virus. As parents, educators, leaders, we need to speak against this in the strongest terms we can think of. We need a real return to morality, not this Sunday-dress shit we see now.
Yea, that's actually the first I heard of HP back then. The news reports of hundreds of kids lining up to read a thick book.
I was like..and still am...wtf? Has the world gone nuts?
On the other hand, I've read the books, and I'm not as surprised. They are very well done. His Dark Materials is a tad better, I think, but to each his own.
What 3rd party games really are that much of a loss? Seriously. I only have a GameCube, and I'm not left missing that much.
Final Fantasy X, to be sure...
Destiny Warriors...
GTA
and....that's really it.
That's all I miss coming from 3rd parties not on the GC.
Maybe I could put together a list other games I'd like to play, but I'm not missing them. Shinobi, Xenosaga, Devil May Cry..umm...not much else..
Burnout was fun...but other than that, not missing much by Acclaim leaving. I think that Nintendo needs to rebrand themselves as quality over quanity. Get on a different level than the other consoles.
I was about to suggest the same game:)
It's a lot of fun two player. It kinda gets away from the skill factor, but the challenge changes, from pattern memorization to team work.
I think Microsoft in general is still far too biased to expect a revoultion.
Handheld gaming is not competition for the console market. I actually think that Nintendo is on the right track with the GBA, especially with the connectivity with the Cube. Not for playing games together, oh no.
Imagine a handheld system with a good flash memory, enough to capture a 16-bit game. Furthermore, imagine connectibility with a CD-based system, and the ability to download a game to the portable system. Not to mention, every company throwing an old game or two for downloadable play. Konomi offering the old Contra games, or maybe Laser Assault (remember that?) Maybe with the new TMNT game include one of the NES or SNES games. With Metal Gear Solid, include Metal Gear 1 and 2.
Furthermore, have the ability to copy over full multiplayer versions of games, to allow full multiplayer with one cart. Not a reduced version of the game, but a full multiplayer-only version.
Furthermore, I still contend that the purchase of Rare was a mistake. Rare is most certainly a great company...however, I wonder how much Microsoft is going to let Rare be Rare. Just a thought.
Fable and Halo 2 do not a system make. Of course, MS tends to want to put games like that silly volleyball game or Tao Feng on the same level. Whatever that means.
Because the only thing we use differently is bookmarks. We share an e-mail address, use all the same programs and often the same files.
Multiple user logins make no sense for us.
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At least for my wife..
Sure, she plays the ones they mention..The Sims, Roller Coaster Tycoon, (She likes anything sandboxy and expandable really). As well, we both like the Pop-cap style of small games, (who doesn't)
However the tastes go beyond that..
Everything from Baldur's Gate:Dark Alliance and Legend of Mana to Final Fantasy IX and Might and Magic VI and VII. (She is obessed with those games. One challenge she made is to beat a temple full of Lich's at as low of a level as possible. Her lowest is 6!)
Doom and Blood (Her personal fav) to Jedi Knight II. Diablo II for a while as well.
Burnout, Sonic Advendture II Battle.
All of the Mario games for the most part. Perfect Dark/007. Even Ikaragua for crying out loud.
Among many others. (The one thing we agree with is a dislike for the "classics". Outside Bubble Bobble, there is not many old games we really enjoy)
What is the point?
Women gamers are no different than men gamers. Each have their own tastes, likes and dislikes. Trying to lump them in a completely seperate catagory..to be honest is sexist and counter-productive. Make good games and women will play them, if they want to.
That is why I purchase media that I really enjoy. (Well, aside from the increased quality)
I want to reward stuff that I like, so they can keep on making more of that stuff. I'm voting with my wallet.
One of the problems I see, is that a lot of people don't vote with their wallet anymore, which skewers the types of projects that are undertaken. (Although when it comes to movies, the CW is rather positive I think)
*blink*
Sarcasm right?
I hope?
*blink*
For Multi-player games, my name goes between
CashCarSTAR (tSP song)
DarkPaladin (my original)
Karmakin (Newest one and my current fav)
For single-player games, I never change names if the name is set, with one exception. In Chrono Trigger, I rename Frog to Glenn to clear up some sillyness, as well as so I can actually have a character with my own name. (And such a GOOD character, in every way)
When I need to create names, I use generic names, in order to facilitate easy gameplay. In Wizadry for the SNES, for example, I named them after the role they played with a number. (Because of the alignment system, I kept working parties of both good and evil people and jumped between them)
Agreed, but go one step further. Even if you vote with your wallet, the companies are so full of hubris, that they would never believe that people are staying away because of DRM. They would blame piracy, fraud, or simply lie about it.
You bought it, it's yours. You can do whatever you want with it, besides distribute it to other people.
I agree.
I don't give two cares that you guys are linking to another part of your own network. You do not need to tell me that.
In fact, it doesn't matter one bit. Give preference to all the OSDN sites, I don't care. If you ignore good stuff on the other sites, Slashdot dies. I don't think that will happen.
Sorry. It just irritated me too.
Nintendo, at this point will always be a bit-player in the console market. That is not necessarly a bad thing, it's just market reality.
Nobody wants to compete with Nintendo's first party games. They so dominate the system (in reality they dominate all the systems for the most part). No 3rd party games, equals no broad support.
Nintendo really is the Apple of the video game world business wise. Selling to a small group of people for a good profit.
On the other hand, I think that the PS2 has it's lead just because it was the first in. More consoles sold=more games=more consoles sold. Sure the games don't look quite as nice, but it's still spectacular enough.
It'll be interesting to see what happens for the next Generation. If Nintendo jumps on with a competitive All-in-one system, (GC 2, GC and GBA support) Quite frankly, they still could slug it out with Sony.
IANAP, but in my view it would be impossible to remove the current viruses without breaking...everything.
As far as I know, most viruses in their execution work using common OS scripts and commands. It's something where the fix will be worse than the cure.
And I think MS is doing something just like that anyway. Isn't that what Longhorn is going to be?
(Not that I support Longhorn, it's going to be a monumental flop, but I digress)
Actually the music drove me nuts too...but usually it's worse on an emulator. The Final Fantasy games pushed the SNES sound chip to the limit, to be honest. The sounds were made speciically to work with it. On the PSX, it's just not the same, on an emulator it's worse.
Online gaming, to be honest, is overrated.Deatchmatching, to be honest is a waste. Good team-play as well is hard to find. What is fun??
MMORPGs, if you have the time and the money.
Diablo II, for the co-op play.
Counter-Strike and Day of Defeat for team-based FPS
Strategy games
Subspace/Continum for serious skill-based team competition. That's about it.
All PC apps..to be honest. Everything else, IMO dies with typical lag for online games. Predictive models break down for platforming/fighting type games.
Nintendo has the right idea. Ultra-tight controls are wasted on online play. It just would be sub-par for what I expect. Now, I would like to see Nintendo bring out an online adapter for the next-gen, so the option is there. But there's no way to really do it well on a console, so why dilute the quality of what matters? Local competition and one-player goodness.
Actually it is a cool way to do things. It's different.
It means you can trade through e-mail, forums whatever.
It's pretty cool to try and go around and fnd that item you need to reach the next level..nnot my sttyle of game, but I can see whypeople like it.
In my humble opinion...
The NintendoStation would have been a SegaCD sized flop. Add-on perpherials tend to not do good. With all three companies killing themselves off, console gaming would have died a quick, ugly death.
Nintendo did the right thing, It hink
It's called the "might as well" factor.
Most people I know who have XBoxen use them as a media center. Mostly to hook up to their sound system to play MP3s, movies, and other things..although...
While we do that, might as well use it to play burnt games. That's a secondary function.
There's not just competition between games. There is competition between consoles to get those games. Piracy increases the installed base, which looks good to the bean-counters, there-go the lack of GC ports.
In Nintendo's case, I think their business mdoel for the Game Cube revolves around a higher profit margin on lower system sales, so it works for them. Business wise.
One suggestion. End the stupid region lock-out. They'll make much more profit if they do that overall. (To be honest, I can't think of a single reason to have a region lock-out at this point)
Seriously. That is too much old-school goodness in one package. Everything from Gauntlet to Rampart to Smash TV.
Hell, I'd buy it for those games alone.
Now, 20 games in one package. I'm glad that someone got serious about re-relesing their games. With any luck, this will bring on a storm of quality packages of older games, rather than the 4 game stupidness.
Baldur's Gate style fighting
Count me out. That was the ugliest mess I've seen in a long time.
Give me the old Gold-Box combat. That is still wicked fun.
I think the question asked is "Is it moral?", of course the legality of it leaves little to doubt. However the morals of it, leave a lot of discussion.
This conversation usually is rather interesting, for the most part. here's the way I look at it.
Rewarding the producer is a good and moral thing.
What is more moral. Downloading a ROM image or buying a used cart? The second right?
How? The producer is left in the dirt, and money that WOULD have spent on that product is instead in the product of a third party. Not exactly a moral outcome, is it?
Sure, the reseller has that right (I agree totally), but from the producer type of view, it's still a lost sale. Execpt that one is legal and the other illegal. (But both the same from the producers POV)
So are ROMs moral? For anything that one can not buy an original shrinkwrapped copy, they not really moral, but not the opposite either. It's sort of like a tree falling in the woods with nobody around. Not really doing much of anything.
My suggestion? It's the same for everything. We appoint a copyright court. The standard is, you keep copyright as long as you keep distributing the product at a competitive price. You decide that it is too expensive and not profitable enough to release. Fine. Either release it to the public domain, or risk a challenge being made. If you lose the challenge, you pay the legal bills of the winner. Simple as that.
No more culture going down the memory hole.
I appriciate the feeling, but I would go one step further.
Why is it, that individuals are expected to keep to the highest level of moral being, yet when it comes to buisness, we can throw all that out the window, all in the name of profit?
What is legal, and what is not aside, morality is a very important thing in a society. Extremely important. However, what are we teaching our youth? Forget video games, music, whatever media, we teachour gets to get whatever you can get while the getting is good. A majority ofthe social ills in our society can come directly down to that ethos! Why is it bad when it's for me, but ok when it's for you?
Now, I'm not a communist, I believe in a free market. But I think people need to be held to good moral standard. A company that is gouging consumers, is strictly immoral, no matter what you want to say about it. A company that is above-board, creating a product people want, selling it at a reasonable price and making a reasonable profit, is acting in a very moral behaviour.
Terrorists might be too strong, but they are a social virus. As parents, educators, leaders, we need to speak against this in the strongest terms we can think of. We need a real return to morality, not this Sunday-dress shit we see now.
Yea, that's actually the first I heard of HP back then. The news reports of hundreds of kids lining up to read a thick book.
I was like..and still am...wtf? Has the world gone nuts?
On the other hand, I've read the books, and I'm not as surprised. They are very well done. His Dark Materials is a tad better, I think, but to each his own.
No, it's not. I've seen rips of the text already. It's actually pretty easy to do, I could do it on my computer if I wanted to.
I have a scanner with text recognition software. It works wonders with printed text. I could do it in about a day. If I really wanted to.
What 3rd party games really are that much of a loss? Seriously. I only have a GameCube, and I'm not left missing that much.
Final Fantasy X, to be sure...
Destiny Warriors...
GTA
and....that's really it.
That's all I miss coming from 3rd parties not on the GC.
Maybe I could put together a list other games I'd like to play, but I'm not missing them. Shinobi, Xenosaga, Devil May Cry..umm...not much else..
Burnout was fun...but other than that, not missing much by Acclaim leaving. I think that Nintendo needs to rebrand themselves as quality over quanity. Get on a different level than the other consoles.
Furthermore, why are you not providing space for potential replies to what you are writing anyway?
Seriously, I don't see how this is any violation of freedom of speech. It's speech+ not speech-
Don't forget G.I. Joe!
One of the best arcade shooters I can remember.
4 players all running around destroying everything. A whole lot of fun.
I was about to suggest the same game :)
It's a lot of fun two player. It kinda gets away from the skill factor, but the challenge changes, from pattern memorization to team work.
I think Microsoft in general is still far too biased to expect a revoultion.
Handheld gaming is not competition for the console market. I actually think that Nintendo is on the right track with the GBA, especially with the connectivity with the Cube. Not for playing games together, oh no.
Imagine a handheld system with a good flash memory, enough to capture a 16-bit game. Furthermore, imagine connectibility with a CD-based system, and the ability to download a game to the portable system. Not to mention, every company throwing an old game or two for downloadable play. Konomi offering the old Contra games, or maybe Laser Assault (remember that?) Maybe with the new TMNT game include one of the NES or SNES games. With Metal Gear Solid, include Metal Gear 1 and 2.
Furthermore, have the ability to copy over full multiplayer versions of games, to allow full multiplayer with one cart. Not a reduced version of the game, but a full multiplayer-only version.
Furthermore, I still contend that the purchase of Rare was a mistake. Rare is most certainly a great company...however, I wonder how much Microsoft is going to let Rare be Rare. Just a thought.
Fable and Halo 2 do not a system make. Of course, MS tends to want to put games like that silly volleyball game or Tao Feng on the same level. Whatever that means.
Because the only thing we use differently is bookmarks. We share an e-mail address, use all the same programs and often the same files. Multiple user logins make no sense for us.