To all the people that say this I would be the first to volunteer to goto Mars even if it meant there was a 99 percent chance I would die. I'm sure there alot of other American's that would do the same.
Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs to Manage Google IPO (Update1)
Jan. 5 (Bloomberg) -- Google Inc. hired Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs Group Inc. to arrange its initial public offering, a sale that may raise as much as $4 billion, a banker involved in the transaction said.
Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs will lead a group of underwriters that includes Citigroup Inc., Credit Suisse First Boston, J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., Thomas Weisel Partners LLC and WR Hambrecht + Co., two bankers in the sale said. They spoke on condition they not be named.
The sale by Google, the world's most used Internet search engine, would be the biggest IPO since CIT Group Inc.'s $4.87 billion deal in July 2002. It ``will certainly be the deal of the year,'' said Sanford Robertson, who founded San Francisco-based investment bank Robertson, Stephens & Co. before starting private- equity firm Francisco Partners LP.
About a third of Mountain View, California-based Google may be sold in the IPO, giving the company a market value of about $12 billion, the bankers said. The company will probably register the shares for sale with the Securities and Exchange Commission this month and sell them by April, they said.
Google spokesman David Krane, Morgan Stanley's Melissa Stonberg and Goldman Sachs spokesman Andrea Rachman declined comment. Citigroup spokesman Duncan King, CSFB spokesman Pen Pendleton and J.P. Morgan spokesman Brian Marchiony declined comment.
Thomas Weisel Chief Operating Officer Blake Jorgensen and Hambrecht spokeswoman Sharon Smith didn't return calls seeking comment.
Fees
The fees generated from Google's IPO may be as much as $280 million if the company raises as much as $4 billion based on a 7 percent fee. Fees for IPOs in the U.S. are the most lucrative in the securities industry at between 6 percent and 7 percent compared with about 0.9 percent for corporate bonds and about 0.3 percent for advice on mergers and acquisitions.
``On any given day there would be a line of 200 investment bankers that would kill their mothers to get the Google deal,'' said Reed Taussig, chief executive officer at Callidus Software Inc., a San Jose, California based company that plans to sell shares in an IPO.
IPO History
Morgan Stanley has taken public at least six companies backed by Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, one of Google's venture investors. Those sales included Netscape Communications whose August 1995 IPO ushered in the Internet boom.
Goldman Sachs has arranged IPOs for at least four companies backed by Sequoia Capital general partner Michael Moritz, a venture investor in Google. Those sales include Google competitor Yahoo Inc., Webvan Group Inc., PlanetRx.com Inc. and Etoys Inc. Goldman also arranged the IPO of Google rival Ebay Inc., which has a market value of about $42 billion.
Google's Internet site is the most-used in the world for Internet searches, according to research firm ComScore Networks. Google was used for 35 percent of Internet searches by U.S. users in October, ComScore said.
Google's search results are also available on other companies' Web sites, including Time Warner Inc.'s America Online, which pay Google licensing fees.
Google generates most of its revenue from a service known as sponsored-search advertising. Customers pay Google for the right to have their Web sites come up at the top of search results on terms related to their business. Those search results are set off in colored boxes and labeled ``Sponsored Links'' to distinguish them from those businesses haven't paid to influence.
Google probably had revenue of about $1 billion in 2003 and net income of about $200 million that will increase to about $1.5 billion of sales and net income of $300 million in this year, according to Eric Martinuzzi, an analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group in Minneapolis.
``Any Internet site who wants to create revenue uses Google,'' Martinuzzi said. Last Updated: January 5, 2004 15:40 EST
Amen to using Google catch at work. Really helps to evade your companies firewall. They can't block goggle from the company firewall where I work. There would be a lot of people lost at work without goggle.
FF XI is the #2 MMORPG on the market atm with 400,000+ subsribers and thats w/o the console version of the game being released stateside. They will at least pick up 100,000+ more subscribes when that is release. Everquest will be the #2 MMORPG come 2004.
DAOC is a prime example of the dev's not having a clue how to market their game. At release they made a big hoopla about RVR being the end all beat all(and attarcted alot of people with). The first 2 expansions for their game are PvE expansions and don't add any new RvR content in over 2 years. People are still taking the same keeps and relics that where put in 2 years ago and nothing really new has been added!
Now tell me something, why would you almost completely ignore the people you attracted to your game with your RvR marketing campaign and release PvE expansions!?!?!
It's no wonder DAOC can barely stratch over 20k ppl online now when it used to 40k ppl. Mythic/DAOC is a sinking ship.
Stole from usenet group sci.space.policy: "M. Scott" wrote in message news:... > John Carmack wrote: > > We did the helicopter drop test of our X-Prize vehicle with parachute > > system and crushable nose on Saturday. > > Great video! Congratulations on your progress and I look forward to > reading about more of your exploits! > > I have one question, though. If there had been a man in the vehicle > during that drop test, would he have been severely injured? The landing > looked rough-- much rougher than in the SA'03 nose cone test, for > instance.
The acceleration spikes were only 10G, which is not much of a problem with a harness and padding. The roll-up-and-fall-back-down behavior would certainly be pretty rough, so we hope to reduce that behaviorwith some changes to the cabin top lip, the parachute, and the tail supports.
The X-Prize could be had with the landing as-is.
John Carmack
Google link: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8 &oe=UTF-8&threadm=c0e0a1dd.0307071735.5f09aa08%40p osting.google.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DThe%2B acceleration%2Bspikes%2Bwere%2Bonly%2B10G%252C%2Bw hich%2Bis%2Bnot%2Bmuch%2Bof%2Ba%2Bproblem%26ie%3DU TF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26hl%3Den%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSear ch )
They can very easily catch up. The Chinese are willingly sacrifice alot more lives than we would. That gives them alot more room to try things that we wouldn't think of doing.
"Sega's problems were never because of either hardware or software. Their main pitfall was marketing. In my opinion, if the Sega Saturn had been backwards-compatible, Sony would be the one out of the hardware business."
Backwards-compatible to the Saturn?
IIRC the Saturn didn't sell too hot itself. Surely not enough to kill off the PS2 or PS1
One thing Turbine has done before and it has shown in their games is that they haven't spent the time to the game just "right".
I never played AC1 but from what I played in AC2 it was lakely alot of content. It is one of the thing that makes MMORPG sucessful. AC2 had the gameplay and the beautiful graphics part of it right but it lacked the content and was unfinished at release. Which is way AC2 is a virtual desert nowadays.
Let's Hope Turbine can do it right this time instead of rushing it out the door like they've had in the past.
Neo Geo was marketed for a niche market and I don't think SNK ever thought their system would hit it big. They made most of their money from the games the system used in arcade cabinets.
I had Neo Geo and Samuri Showdown and was well worth the money to be able to play it at home =)
T2K and AvP rocked. AvP was the first game that actually made me jump when a whorde aliends tried to kill me! Those 2 games alone made it worht having a Jag imo!
Slashdot Mirror
Does this mean clickable eula's are void too? Both those run off the same premise to validate one's action.
"- Mars exploration is dangerous"
To all the people that say this I would be the first to volunteer to goto Mars even if it meant there was a 99 percent chance I would die. I'm sure there alot of other American's that would do the same.
The airbags weren't properly tested and I'd bet the farm that is what made this mission fail. Beagle2 is in a millions pieces, imho.
Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs to Manage Google IPO (Update1)
Jan. 5 (Bloomberg) -- Google Inc. hired Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs Group Inc. to arrange its initial public offering, a sale that may raise as much as $4 billion, a banker involved in the transaction said.
Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs will lead a group of underwriters that includes Citigroup Inc., Credit Suisse First Boston, J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., Thomas Weisel Partners LLC and WR Hambrecht + Co., two bankers in the sale said. They spoke on condition they not be named.
The sale by Google, the world's most used Internet search engine, would be the biggest IPO since CIT Group Inc.'s $4.87 billion deal in July 2002. It ``will certainly be the deal of the year,'' said Sanford Robertson, who founded San Francisco-based investment bank Robertson, Stephens & Co. before starting private- equity firm Francisco Partners LP.
About a third of Mountain View, California-based Google may be sold in the IPO, giving the company a market value of about $12 billion, the bankers said. The company will probably register the shares for sale with the Securities and Exchange Commission this month and sell them by April, they said.
Google spokesman David Krane, Morgan Stanley's Melissa Stonberg and Goldman Sachs spokesman Andrea Rachman declined comment. Citigroup spokesman Duncan King, CSFB spokesman Pen Pendleton and J.P. Morgan spokesman Brian Marchiony declined comment.
Thomas Weisel Chief Operating Officer Blake Jorgensen and Hambrecht spokeswoman Sharon Smith didn't return calls seeking comment.
Fees
The fees generated from Google's IPO may be as much as $280 million if the company raises as much as $4 billion based on a 7 percent fee. Fees for IPOs in the U.S. are the most lucrative in the securities industry at between 6 percent and 7 percent compared with about 0.9 percent for corporate bonds and about 0.3 percent for advice on mergers and acquisitions.
``On any given day there would be a line of 200 investment bankers that would kill their mothers to get the Google deal,'' said Reed Taussig, chief executive officer at Callidus Software Inc., a San Jose, California based company that plans to sell shares in an IPO.
IPO History
Morgan Stanley has taken public at least six companies backed by Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, one of Google's venture investors. Those sales included Netscape Communications whose August 1995 IPO ushered in the Internet boom.
Goldman Sachs has arranged IPOs for at least four companies backed by Sequoia Capital general partner Michael Moritz, a venture investor in Google. Those sales include Google competitor Yahoo Inc., Webvan Group Inc., PlanetRx.com Inc. and Etoys Inc. Goldman also arranged the IPO of Google rival Ebay Inc., which has a market value of about $42 billion.
Google's Internet site is the most-used in the world for Internet searches, according to research firm ComScore Networks. Google was used for 35 percent of Internet searches by U.S. users in October, ComScore said.
Google's search results are also available on other companies' Web sites, including Time Warner Inc.'s America Online, which pay Google licensing fees.
Google generates most of its revenue from a service known as sponsored-search advertising. Customers pay Google for the right to have their Web sites come up at the top of search results on terms related to their business. Those search results are set off in colored boxes and labeled ``Sponsored Links'' to distinguish them from those businesses haven't paid to influence.
Google probably had revenue of about $1 billion in 2003 and net income of about $200 million that will increase to about $1.5 billion of sales and net income of $300 million in this year, according to Eric Martinuzzi, an analyst at Craig-Hallum Capital Group in Minneapolis.
``Any Internet site who wants to create revenue uses Google,'' Martinuzzi said.
Last Updated: January 5, 2004 15:40 EST
Amen to using Google catch at work. Really helps to evade your companies firewall. They can't block goggle from the company firewall where I work. There would be a lot of people lost at work without goggle.
This lawsuit should be won by Microsoft. Mythic's game is named Dark Age of Camelot not Mythic.
FF XI is the #2 MMORPG on the market atm with 400,000+ subsribers and thats w/o the console version of the game being released stateside. They will at least pick up 100,000+ more subscribes when that is release. Everquest will be the #2 MMORPG come 2004.
I bet they find a reason to blame Slashdot and sue them over the SYN flood.
Are they going to attach it to a shark's head eventually?
I'm sure there are some people that have gotten hernia's from doing the 1-hand keyboard shuffle while viewing some hentai game's.
Actually it isn't due to superior marketing. It's due to having a monopoly in the OS market. If MS Windows falls through the floor so will MS.
With all the other crazy stuff you can patent. Please don't tell me he couldn't have patented that if he thought of it.
DAOC is a prime example of the dev's not having a clue how to market their game. At release they made a big hoopla about RVR being the end all beat all(and attarcted alot of people with). The first 2 expansions for their game are PvE expansions and don't add any new RvR content in over 2 years. People are still taking the same keeps and relics that where put in 2 years ago and nothing really new has been added!
Now tell me something, why would you almost completely ignore the people you attracted to your game with your RvR marketing campaign and release PvE expansions!?!?!
It's no wonder DAOC can barely stratch over 20k ppl online now when it used to 40k ppl. Mythic/DAOC is a sinking ship.
Like the Xbox version will be close to the PC version. IMO, The PC version is the only version to play and I own all 3 consoles plus a PC.
I just made my $20 IBM promised me if I bash SCO on Slashdot.
Oooops I wasn't supposed to post that. No beer for me tonight =(
Stole from usenet group sci.space.policy:
8 &oe=UTF-8&threadm=c0e0a1dd.0307071735.5f09aa08%40p osting.google.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DThe%2B acceleration%2Bspikes%2Bwere%2Bonly%2B10G%252C%2Bw hich%2Bis%2Bnot%2Bmuch%2Bof%2Ba%2Bproblem%26ie%3DU TF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26hl%3Den%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSear ch )
"M. Scott" wrote in message news:...
> John Carmack wrote:
> > We did the helicopter drop test of our X-Prize vehicle with parachute
> > system and crushable nose on Saturday.
>
> Great video! Congratulations on your progress and I look forward to
> reading about more of your exploits!
>
> I have one question, though. If there had been a man in the vehicle
> during that drop test, would he have been severely injured? The landing
> looked rough-- much rougher than in the SA'03 nose cone test, for
> instance.
The acceleration spikes were only 10G, which is not much of a problem
with a harness and padding. The roll-up-and-fall-back-down behavior
would certainly be pretty rough, so we hope to reduce that
behaviorwith some changes to the cabin top lip, the parachute, and the
tail supports.
The X-Prize could be had with the landing as-is.
John Carmack
Google link: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
How many of you guys just subscribed to sci.space.policy and usenet? I know I did!
They can very easily catch up. The Chinese are willingly sacrifice alot more lives than we would. That gives them alot more room to try things that we wouldn't think of doing.
After IBM wins the main case brought against them and countersues SCO?
"Sega's problems were never because of either hardware or software. Their main pitfall was marketing. In my opinion, if the Sega Saturn had been backwards-compatible, Sony would be the one out of the hardware business." Backwards-compatible to the Saturn? IIRC the Saturn didn't sell too hot itself. Surely not enough to kill off the PS2 or PS1
World of Warcraft says, "HI!"
One thing Turbine has done before and it has shown in their games is that they haven't spent the time to the game just "right".
I never played AC1 but from what I played in AC2 it was lakely alot of content. It is one of the thing that makes MMORPG sucessful. AC2 had the gameplay and the beautiful graphics part of it right but it lacked the content and was unfinished at release. Which is way AC2 is a virtual desert nowadays.
Let's Hope Turbine can do it right this time instead of rushing it out the door like they've had in the past.
Taxing will only justify spam as being ok. Alot of spam companies will just chalk it up as a way of doing business nothing else.
Neo Geo was marketed for a niche market and I don't think SNK ever thought their system would hit it big. They made most of their money from the games the system used in arcade cabinets.
I had Neo Geo and Samuri Showdown and was well worth the money to be able to play it at home =)
T2K and AvP rocked. AvP was the first game that actually made me jump when a whorde aliends tried to kill me! Those 2 games alone made it worht having a Jag imo!