nonono....I know it's spelled wrong. That's not the point of contention. What I'm saying is, perhaps the poster spelled it wrong on purpose, as it is the "Department of Mispelling"...
Winamp and the like do not use knobs for their main interface. They use buttons. Knobs are a perfect example of interface you'd want to adapt and change when on a computer, whereas buttons, which are the interface that was being discussed, would be a good example of translatable design from a physical object to a software equivalent.
"In case you hadn't noticed": You posted as an AC just so you could be condescending? Kind of sad.
Computers don't have an image of a typewriter, but they DO have a keyboard, which is designed in the same manner as a typewriter, slow key placement and all...
There is a lot to be said for designing things based on user expectations of utility. Having buttons that reflect buttons that users have experienced on previous audio equipment is not a dumb idea at all.
Certainly you can improve upon and modify the interface to reflect it's new environment (the Ipod for portable mp3 players, for example), but users like to be able to pick up something and have it work. In order for that to happen, there needs to be some familiarity.
Your point is completely valid, the only thing we disagree on is whether the limited domain was implied- I think the original poster just wasn't considering a larger domain, as opposed to implying a smaller one. I'm sure with even modest reflection they'd refine/retract their statement: "worst thing to happen to television", "a grievous blow to nerds who care about tv everywhere", etc.
First off, you state that you know absolutely nothing first or even second hand about online classes. Then you state what online University curriculum doesn't contain, and what can and can't be done in an online course. This doesn't really make any sense- if you know nothing about it, how do can you make these claims? Are you just extrapolating from your own college experience, and assuming that the courses are identical minus the class room?
Regardless of how you came to the conclusion, you would be wrong.
I'll just cover communication, as an example, since you were extra positive on that one. I'm currently in a class (Capella) that coordinated my team, which is scattered across the country, for outlining the IT specs for an outdated company. We've set up a project site, weekly phone meetings with assigned milestones, and collaborated together to create a coherent project. It's been by far the best team work and collaborative project I've ever done for a class, which includes several traditional universities.
Obviously online learning has it's weaknesses, but to just offhand dismiss the entire concept based on a television ad that you didn't like seems to me to be the essence of an...wait for it..."uneducated guess".
My girlfriend is playing it on what I believe to be the identical machine. It...works. It's a little choppy, and she prefers to play it on my PC when I'm not there playing with her, but it definitely works.
That's right. My girlfriend and I play MMORPGs together. I'm a lucky man.
This is what really annoys me about him. I'm a graphic and web designer. He doesn't consider it worthwhile to even address my field as something worth paying for, and basically celebrates the raw ugliness of his website.
I want to join the chorus here, and state that I too, got my totally *non-nerd girlfriend onto Firefox, and she has no problems. Could we get some examples of conversion UI grief, other than the obvious "I miss the little E", and "I miss the viruses"?
*the girlfriend recently lost her non-nerd status, as she is now an avid Star Wars Galaxies player, despite(possibly because of?) not ever seeing any of the movies.
Games are great. Games aren't just for boys. You've heard of multiplayer, yes?
My girlfriend really dug Animal Crossing on the Gamecube. Not too surprising, I guess. BUT, now she is a Star Wars Galaxies junkie. And she hasn't even seen Star Wars!
You just have to show patience and openness, and let your SO find "the geek within". As for me, I'm building another box, so that we can both login to SWG together, and hunt Ewoks, hand in hand.
Hmm. Perhaps if it wasn't rare, it wouldn't be exciting? From a certain perspective, just being able to communicate via message posts over the internet is pretty awesome stuff. However, it's hard to get excited about something you are accustomed to.
And I think that's why the real world has the edge in total entertainment value. In a holodeck, your satisfaction is limited to merely the most satisfying thing you can think of. In the real world, things happen that you would never dream of. It would be hard to love someone who would always say what you want to hear, for example.
Additionally, the sheer contrast between beautiful and ugly and easy and challenging and fair and unfair make even just walking around outside a pretty engaging experience.
Having said that, I think I am going to go out for a walk.
You are assuming that people actually want to experience the kind of things that they imagine they want. People may get tired of having their every whim catered to, virtually.
Dialing up your desires pales in comparison to the shock and surprise that is reality.
They are preying on the disabled in that they've been using a system designed for disabled people to use, and have consequently damaged that system. Many companies will refuse orders from deaf people now because they've been burned before.
I agree. Just because a person is responsible for their own tragedy doesn't make it less tragic. In many cases, it makes it more tragic.
Compassion isn't some delicate commodity we must hoard and only dole out in specific, predetermined circumstances. We all make mistakes. Usually those mistakes are when we need help the most.
I was always under the impression that it was less of a test, and more for entertainemnt purposes. However, if it is still coherent, that definitely speaks well to the quality of the translator...
Use Adblock, an extension available for FireFox. Just click the handy tab on the flash ad, and "disappear" it. Or, if it's from an ad server, go ahead and banish the entire server from sending you a flash file ever again.
Seriously. It's great.
Just because something is business does not make it ethical or moral, or even legal. Slavery had a contract too.
"An artist should shop around for a better contract, or not sign one."
Their were, until recently, very few other options. The crap deal was the only deal to be had, as the publishers owned the production, distribution, promotion, AND the airwaves.It's called a monopoly.
Their is no doubt that musicians should organize and fight for fairer compensation. But is it so wrong that the consumer, on the other end of the deal, ALSO GETTING SCREWED, wants to help the fight, too?
File sharing is illegal. But has it made a statement? Has it created a discussion? Has it changed things? Look at Itunes. Things have changed. A discussion has been created. A statement has been made. If the Itunes model prevails as a dominant music distribution, the publishers will perish as the parasitic middlemen that they are.Sometimes a little civil disobedience is necessary to make yourself heard.
Mike Rowe didn't have a case to drop, Microsoft had a case against him (justified, I felt, too). After enough bad press, they dropped it, and Mike let a sufficient bribe be enough for him to give up the domain.
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You can't create a character of the opposing faction on a PvP server.
nonono....I know it's spelled wrong. That's not the point of contention. What I'm saying is, perhaps the poster spelled it wrong on purpose, as it is the "Department of Mispelling"...
Doesn't it seem reasonable that the Department of Mispelling would be spelled wrong? I think you may have missed the joke...
But I'm not posittive.
Winamp and the like do not use knobs for their main interface. They use buttons. Knobs are a perfect example of interface you'd want to adapt and change when on a computer, whereas buttons, which are the interface that was being discussed, would be a good example of translatable design from a physical object to a software equivalent.
"In case you hadn't noticed": You posted as an AC just so you could be condescending? Kind of sad.
Computers don't have an image of a typewriter, but they DO have a keyboard, which is designed in the same manner as a typewriter, slow key placement and all...
There is a lot to be said for designing things based on user expectations of utility. Having buttons that reflect buttons that users have experienced on previous audio equipment is not a dumb idea at all.
Certainly you can improve upon and modify the interface to reflect it's new environment (the Ipod for portable mp3 players, for example), but users like to be able to pick up something and have it work. In order for that to happen, there needs to be some familiarity.Your point is completely valid, the only thing we disagree on is whether the limited domain was implied- I think the original poster just wasn't considering a larger domain, as opposed to implying a smaller one. I'm sure with even modest reflection they'd refine/retract their statement: "worst thing to happen to television", "a grievous blow to nerds who care about tv everywhere", etc.
Yeah, forget the tsunami: Several of my favorite shows have been cancelled or changed!
First off, you state that you know absolutely nothing first or even second hand about online classes. Then you state what online University curriculum doesn't contain, and what can and can't be done in an online course. This doesn't really make any sense- if you know nothing about it, how do can you make these claims? Are you just extrapolating from your own college experience, and assuming that the courses are identical minus the class room?
Regardless of how you came to the conclusion, you would be wrong.
I'll just cover communication, as an example, since you were extra positive on that one. I'm currently in a class (Capella) that coordinated my team, which is scattered across the country, for outlining the IT specs for an outdated company. We've set up a project site, weekly phone meetings with assigned milestones, and collaborated together to create a coherent project. It's been by far the best team work and collaborative project I've ever done for a class, which includes several traditional universities.
Obviously online learning has it's weaknesses, but to just offhand dismiss the entire concept based on a television ad that you didn't like seems to me to be the essence of an...wait for it..."uneducated guess".
You really want 60-70 times more people on your server? Have you ever done even a modest raid defense of roughly 40 players?
My girlfriend is playing it on what I believe to be the identical machine. It...works. It's a little choppy, and she prefers to play it on my PC when I'm not there playing with her, but it definitely works.
That's right. My girlfriend and I play MMORPGs together. I'm a lucky man.
This is what really annoys me about him. I'm a graphic and web designer. He doesn't consider it worthwhile to even address my field as something worth paying for, and basically celebrates the raw ugliness of his website.
That, and his endless collection of photos of himself.
I want to join the chorus here, and state that I too, got my totally *non-nerd girlfriend onto Firefox, and she has no problems. Could we get some examples of conversion UI grief, other than the obvious "I miss the little E", and "I miss the viruses"?
*the girlfriend recently lost her non-nerd status, as she is now an avid Star Wars Galaxies player, despite(possibly because of?) not ever seeing any of the movies.
"Elitism at its finest"
I think you meant L337izM.
Games are great. Games aren't just for boys. You've heard of multiplayer, yes?
My girlfriend really dug Animal Crossing on the Gamecube. Not too surprising, I guess. BUT, now she is a Star Wars Galaxies junkie. And she hasn't even seen Star Wars!
You just have to show patience and openness, and let your SO find "the geek within". As for me, I'm building another box, so that we can both login to SWG together, and hunt Ewoks, hand in hand.
Hmm. Perhaps if it wasn't rare, it wouldn't be exciting? From a certain perspective, just being able to communicate via message posts over the internet is pretty awesome stuff. However, it's hard to get excited about something you are accustomed to.
And I think that's why the real world has the edge in total entertainment value. In a holodeck, your satisfaction is limited to merely the most satisfying thing you can think of. In the real world, things happen that you would never dream of. It would be hard to love someone who would always say what you want to hear, for example.
Additionally, the sheer contrast between beautiful and ugly and easy and challenging and fair and unfair make even just walking around outside a pretty engaging experience.
Having said that, I think I am going to go out for a walk.
You are assuming that people actually want to experience the kind of things that they imagine they want. People may get tired of having their every whim catered to, virtually.
Dialing up your desires pales in comparison to the shock and surprise that is reality.
They are preying on the disabled in that they've been using a system designed for disabled people to use, and have consequently damaged that system. Many companies will refuse orders from deaf people now because they've been burned before.
Dude: "You know, it's like Lenin said...look to who will benefit, you know...and..."
Donnie: "I am the Walrus."
I agree. Just because a person is responsible for their own tragedy doesn't make it less tragic. In many cases, it makes it more tragic.
Compassion isn't some delicate commodity we must hoard and only dole out in specific, predetermined circumstances. We all make mistakes. Usually those mistakes are when we need help the most.
I was always under the impression that it was less of a test, and more for entertainemnt purposes. However, if it is still coherent, that definitely speaks well to the quality of the translator...
Use Adblock, an extension available for FireFox. Just click the handy tab on the flash ad, and "disappear" it. Or, if it's from an ad server, go ahead and banish the entire server from sending you a flash file ever again. Seriously. It's great.
"It's called business. It's called a contract...
Just because something is business does not make it ethical or moral, or even legal. Slavery had a contract too.
"An artist should shop around for a better contract, or not sign one."
Their were, until recently, very few other options. The crap deal was the only deal to be had, as the publishers owned the production, distribution, promotion, AND the airwaves.It's called a monopoly.
Their is no doubt that musicians should organize and fight for fairer compensation. But is it so wrong that the consumer, on the other end of the deal, ALSO GETTING SCREWED, wants to help the fight, too?
File sharing is illegal. But has it made a statement? Has it created a discussion? Has it changed things? Look at Itunes. Things have changed. A discussion has been created. A statement has been made. If the Itunes model prevails as a dominant music distribution, the publishers will perish as the parasitic middlemen that they are.Sometimes a little civil disobedience is necessary to make yourself heard.
He dies in the book too?!?! :(
Mike Rowe didn't have a case to drop, Microsoft had a case against him (justified, I felt, too). After enough bad press, they dropped it, and Mike let a sufficient bribe be enough for him to give up the domain.
Strange, I figured since you were a secular humanist, you'd be more inclined to go with:
"No damn cat, no damn cradle."