I understand what you're saying, but I disagree about the need to 'clear out' CRTs. I think it is important to remember that all of those CRT manufacturing plants / processes are probably paid for by this time, whereas the new LCD process is still being bankrolled by a 4.5% loan.
I mean 'clear out' in the context that once the LCD prices fall below a certain figure it will be a tough sell to get people to buy comparable CRTs at a price to recoup costs on those CRTs - so it is best to keep the prices up (regardless of cost) if you have a few warehouses of potentially hard to sell inventory to move first.
As far as where I work - once the price goes to sub $200 we probably will be buying lots of them.. Space where I work is at a premium and CRTs take upway too much of it. For non-video/gaming tasks - LCDs are going to do real well...
I have also noticed the prices are all across the board - go into a best buy and look at the 15" LCD tv for $800 and then over to the LCD monitors and see one for only $400 (same features, built-in tuner, etc.)
I think the industry is doing their best to keep prices up to: a)clear out CRTs currently in stock and in production and... b)maximize their profits while LCDs are in short supply/high demand.
I think I'll wait till the glut happens and then start buying them.:-)
When Q-Link was around you could post comments (reviews gripes, whatever) to files in the download sections, sounds exactly like what Amazon is trying to patent.
Thinking about it.... Why would Microsoft be so concerned about sending spam mail when most of their advertisement links are pre-installed in the software...
Let me play paranoid for a few moments (ok I've witnessed the industry too long, I am more at the professional level) and think about the desire to remotely disable software (or other nasty mail based instructions), would that not also be considered "Unsolicited Email"
Telnet - Bah! Must be one of those wannabe 'beemer boards. Yep saw em (IBM based BBSs) come in and cover the calling area like a plague and push out the old Apple II and TRS-80 systems and the popular Commodore and Atari Color BBSs - not soon after, asking for contributions and whining about how every one only called to play TradeWars or LORD (actually the sysop whine is a common malady - now it is usually called the webmaster whine). Then saw them all die off as the users went to AOL and Prodigy and later the Internet...
And those BBS parties were fun (such a suprise to see the 'real' person behind the handle), and also having two names in social situations. (Real name 'Larry', BBS Handle 'Joe Commodore'), I knew I was taking to a fellow user or systop if they greeted me with , "Hey Joe!" Also I did meet my wife via my BBS too.:-)
My Commodore BBS is still on-line - 16 years and counting; though even I don't log in more then once or twice a year, (too busy with other things like work)
Don't knock it, I KNOW there are folks who would like to see their XT software be able to run on modern hardware (& speed) without all that GUIness. I don't believe we have a one OS or PC fitrs all society, there is too much diversity.
You fail to see the full market here, software emulations can be pretty lame, though they get the gist of the machine down quite well, there are always some nasty comprimises, such as inability to access some port (like serial to run modems, etc.). Not everyone interested in the C-One are game players (and even if they are they probably may want to use a 64 joystick over some PC gamepad), some people still do serious work on the 8-bits and would like to have a machine with a 65xx compatible processor as well as IDE, PS/2 ports, gobs of RAM etc. You can think of it like a 'BASIC stamp extreme' if that makes more sense to you...
It all starts with the 64 emulation but if you read the specs, it keeps going and c64 is just one configuration possible.
For me the Commodore fan it's the 64 with all the stuff I wish I had that I don't know how to connect to the 64. Sure there are hard disks and other interfaces out there to expand the 64, but these are built-in and not only that 20x the speed (very fast indeed), plus extended video and sound features... Old school video games have a new platform to be re-invented on....:-)
If you look at the specs it does more than just 64 emulation - it is a progression, the video and sound 'chips' (if you call them that), are several factors more powerful then the originals (which held their on in their day - i remember making PC users in the late 80s jealous of the 64s features.). Also the processor is up to 20x faster than the 64s original 1mghz (don't knock it till you've seen it), add into that modern interfaces for keyboard, mouse etc.
What's it good for? Whatever you want it to be, it's got speed, interfacing, portable friendly power system, and unlike modern PCs one person can understand the entire workings of the unit.
I consider it the new hobby computer, all the interfacing and video stuff we wish we had access to with a platform that is really easy to understand and work with at a low level. Good for experimenting with new concepts.
I hope they get 'robot insurance,' I recall an ad where it was proven robots attack people to get their perscription drugs - which is what they run on....
Glad to see someone is setting up resources so folks who use Hyperlink or the Wave on their Commodore 64 can access pages and see them properly.
Maybe with the C-One us 8-bitters can get closer to a real 8-bit Opera browser...:-) Of course it would probably have to run under Wings or Wheels though
Never say it's impossible, it will just make people want to prove you know nothing.
Well I read through all the f***ing manuals I could find, Joy of Sex, 101 Sexual Positions, etc., but it does not explain how to configure Mandrake to work with my cheap PC.
And to top it all off, I now have carpal tunnel in my wrist for some reason...:-P
Here's how I see it, there will be commercials on almost all the time, the bottom 1/8th of the screen will be the 'free market zone' where local stations or advertisers can deluge you with information 24/7. (probably with an internet-tivo future it will all be targeted to YOU, or targeted to your weaknesses - CowbyoNeal detected, use the 'Cute babes dig nerds using our product pitch!') Cable channels and/or stations probably get viewer hit bonuses too - so the ads will be extra grueling or enticing as well.
Though I also see an some exemptions for political, some news or emergency broadcasts, public television and/or educational shows (can't currupt the kids, show bad taste or political influence...).
I also see such internet businesses as eBay, Amazon, etc. moving to the new TV with their own 'channels' either displaying items for sale ala QVC or when in 'interactive mode' similar to the websites we all know, but probably more fast paced the tuned for quick money turnover ("use buy it now! the Three Stooges Tupperware set ends in 5 minutes and there are 8 others currently viewing this selection!")
We also will get new billing charges for system features, like Yahoo access, TV-Guide programming (sets your device to tape shows), and of course the MPAA/RIAA per play charge for anything we store and watch later (it's only a few cents, cheap!)
Free... ha! Look at the direction broadcast TV is headed.
Yep, I have some apps with the source, if I have a problem would I fix it?
No. reasons: I don't know the language, I don't have the development tools that created it, the syntax may be something that Chef Boayardee would be proud of..
I usually whine to the author about missing features.
Then again, if the source for say MS Word were included and you *could* modify it by purchasing the $9,999 Windows development system - home edition, of course and non-transferrable license - the corporate edition would require more robust product and licensing fees... Microsoft may see a few bucks in the prosepct.
Either that or they won't sell anyone the developemnt tools that are the basis for understanding such a cryptic mess ("You got the source, that's all you asked for.")
Most people have other things to do than work on/tweak thier computers all day, like their actual jobs.
Stupid people don't know linux.
Those people find Linux is very complicated and not well documented (yeah there is A LOT of documentation but trying to find what you need is not at all easy or sometimes understandable by the non-Unix person).
Teaching Stupid people == Money
The alternative would be to *improve* the usability of Linux - but I guess that would cost you *smart* people time and money then...:-/
So are a few of the others, Video Olympics requires up to two sets of paddles, I too wonder how they pulled this off. Maybe the stick is a paddle too (ala 5200 controller).
Either way, I only wish it had more games, controller ports and cartridge slot.
Apple is getting heat from the deveopers, becuase: A) there isn't enough OSX sales, or
B)there isn't enought OSX market to develop for the New OS
So in order tp prime the pump you start with a key market (shools) give em the OS, and they will increase the demand for OSX applications. Publishers are happy because they can re-sell their OSX fixed K-12 software to the same district, etc.
I believe if Apple didn't do it many schools would stick with OS9 or earlier - because most of their apps for their curriculum aren't broke, so why replace them...
The "big picture costs" to schools will be substatntial from new apps, faster hardware and especially unix savvy staff to maintain the totally different OS (If you haven't figured it out - It ain't MacOS anymore, it's MacUNIX with a MacOS emulator as an option.)
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I mean 'clear out' in the context that once the LCD prices fall below a certain figure it will be a tough sell to get people to buy comparable CRTs at a price to recoup costs on those CRTs - so it is best to keep the prices up (regardless of cost) if you have a few warehouses of potentially hard to sell inventory to move first.
As far as where I work - once the price goes to sub $200 we probably will be buying lots of them.. Space where I work is at a premium and CRTs take upway too much of it. For non-video/gaming tasks - LCDs are going to do real well...
:-)
I have also noticed the prices are all across the board - go into a best buy and look at the 15" LCD tv for $800 and then over to the LCD monitors and see one for only $400 (same features, built-in tuner, etc.)
I think the industry is doing their best to keep prices up to:
a)clear out CRTs currently in stock and in production and...
b)maximize their profits while LCDs are in short supply/high demand.
I think I'll wait till the glut happens and then start buying them.
Shouldn't Microsoft be suing Sun now? I thought MS Innovated... er... I mean patened FUD.
When Q-Link was around you could post comments (reviews gripes, whatever) to files in the download sections, sounds exactly like what Amazon is trying to patent.
Thinking about it.... Why would Microsoft be so concerned about sending spam mail when most of their advertisement links are pre-installed in the software...
Let me play paranoid for a few moments (ok I've witnessed the industry too long, I am more at the professional level) and think about the desire to remotely disable software (or other nasty mail based instructions), would that not also be considered "Unsolicited Email"
Hmmm...
Telnet - Bah! Must be one of those wannabe 'beemer boards. Yep saw em (IBM based BBSs) come in and cover the calling area like a plague and push out the old Apple II and TRS-80 systems and the popular Commodore and Atari Color BBSs - not soon after, asking for contributions and whining about how every one only called to play TradeWars or LORD (actually the sysop whine is a common malady - now it is usually called the webmaster whine). Then saw them all die off as the users went to AOL and Prodigy and later the Internet...
:-)
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And those BBS parties were fun (such a suprise to see the 'real' person behind the handle), and also having two names in social situations. (Real name 'Larry', BBS Handle 'Joe Commodore'), I knew I was taking to a fellow user or systop if they greeted me with , "Hey Joe!" Also I did meet my wife via my BBS too.
My Commodore BBS is still on-line - 16 years and counting; though even I don't log in more then once or twice a year, (too busy with other things like work)
http://www.portcommodore.com/commodore/bbs/slri
Silicon Realms BBS: (209) 754-1363 (when my data line is free)
Don't knock it, I KNOW there are folks who would like to see their XT software be able to run on modern hardware (& speed) without all that GUIness. I don't believe we have a one OS or PC fitrs all society, there is too much diversity.
It all starts with the 64 emulation but if you read the specs, it keeps going and c64 is just one configuration possible.
For me the Commodore fan it's the 64 with all the stuff I wish I had that I don't know how to connect to the 64. Sure there are hard disks and other interfaces out there to expand the 64, but these are built-in and not only that 20x the speed (very fast indeed), plus extended video and sound features... Old school video games have a new platform to be re-invented on.... :-)
What's it good for? Whatever you want it to be, it's got speed, interfacing, portable friendly power system, and unlike modern PCs one person can understand the entire workings of the unit.
I consider it the new hobby computer, all the interfacing and video stuff we wish we had access to with a platform that is really easy to understand and work with at a low level. Good for experimenting with new concepts.
That was from the original prototype specs, now it has a limit of 1GB SDRAM.
Oh man there are sooo many good jokes here!
Hey! Don't touch my monkey, he isn't dry yet!
"Gee, wish that I could - but i'm not *certified* to fix PCs..."
I could live with that!
I hope they get 'robot insurance,' I recall an ad where it was proven robots attack people to get their perscription drugs - which is what they run on....
Maybe with the C-One us 8-bitters can get closer to a real 8-bit Opera browser... :-) Of course it would probably have to run under Wings or Wheels though
Never say it's impossible, it will just make people want to prove you know nothing.
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Well I read through all the f***ing manuals I could find, Joy of Sex, 101 Sexual Positions, etc., but it does not explain how to configure Mandrake to work with my cheap PC.
And to top it all off, I now have carpal tunnel in my wrist for some reason... :-P
Here's how I see it, there will be commercials on almost all the time, the bottom 1/8th of the screen will be the 'free market zone' where local stations or advertisers can deluge you with information 24/7. (probably with an internet-tivo future it will all be targeted to YOU, or targeted to your weaknesses - CowbyoNeal detected, use the 'Cute babes dig nerds using our product pitch!') Cable channels and/or stations probably get viewer hit bonuses too - so the ads will be extra grueling or enticing as well.
Though I also see an some exemptions for political, some news or emergency broadcasts, public television and/or educational shows (can't currupt the kids, show bad taste or political influence...).
I also see such internet businesses as eBay, Amazon, etc. moving to the new TV with their own 'channels' either displaying items for sale ala QVC or when in 'interactive mode' similar to the websites we all know, but probably more fast paced the tuned for quick money turnover ("use buy it now! the Three Stooges Tupperware set ends in 5 minutes and there are 8 others currently viewing this selection!")
We also will get new billing charges for system features, like Yahoo access, TV-Guide programming (sets your device to tape shows), and of course the MPAA/RIAA per play charge for anything we store and watch later (it's only a few cents, cheap!)
Free... ha! Look at the direction broadcast TV is headed.
In this example it should be called the "Group for Health Alternatives".
Yep, I have some apps with the source, if I have a problem would I fix it?
No. reasons: I don't know the language, I don't have the development tools that created it, the syntax may be something that Chef Boayardee would be proud of..
I usually whine to the author about missing features.
Then again, if the source for say MS Word were included and you *could* modify it by purchasing the $9,999 Windows development system - home edition, of course and non-transferrable license - the corporate edition would require more robust product and licensing fees... Microsoft may see a few bucks in the prosepct.
Either that or they won't sell anyone the developemnt tools that are the basis for understanding such a cryptic mess ("You got the source, that's all you asked for.")
Most people have other things to do than work on/tweak thier computers all day, like their actual jobs.
Stupid people don't know linux.
Those people find Linux is very complicated and not well documented (yeah there is A LOT of documentation but trying to find what you need is not at all easy or sometimes understandable by the non-Unix person).
Teaching Stupid people == Money
The alternative would be to *improve* the usability of Linux - but I guess that would cost you *smart* people time and money then... :-/
It looks like you run it on contemporary x86 hardware, not Z80 or 6502, or even 4004, how do you see *really old* here. :-(
Of course if you want a REALLY OLD hardware Unix variation, you can always look at LUnix for the Commodore 64.
So are a few of the others, Video Olympics requires up to two sets of paddles, I too wonder how they pulled this off. Maybe the stick is a paddle too (ala 5200 controller).
Either way, I only wish it had more games, controller ports and cartridge slot.
Apple is getting heat from the deveopers, becuase:
A) there isn't enough OSX sales, or
B)there isn't enought OSX market to develop for the New OS
So in order tp prime the pump you start with a key market (shools) give em the OS, and they will increase the demand for OSX applications. Publishers are happy because they can re-sell their OSX fixed K-12 software to the same district, etc.
I believe if Apple didn't do it many schools would stick with OS9 or earlier - because most of their apps for their curriculum aren't broke, so why replace them...
The "big picture costs" to schools will be substatntial from new apps, faster hardware and especially unix savvy staff to maintain the totally different OS (If you haven't figured it out - It ain't MacOS anymore, it's MacUNIX with a MacOS emulator as an option.)
Hey Boss, anything ya want, I'll do it, I'm READY. Whatever way ya want it done.
I'm a 'get it done ^&$#@ language' not some ^&&*@#% logic major.
So, where do ya wanna GOTO today?
Logo:
C'mon, kid, please, not ANOTHER squiral! Hey, how about some good old list processing?
No, 360 divided by 16 is not 33. Ack!
I am not responsible for this graphic, that kid made it! *sigh*
help
Better not, we all know they don't pay anything for "broken meteors!"