Way back when, I had a triple-boot of RedHat 6.2, BeOS R4, and Windows 98.
BeOS R4 was unable to use my Voodoo Banshee (still my only display adapter, btw), so I was in glorious greyscale - and I still loved it. I bought R4.5 as soon as I could, with Banshee support. It was awesome:) Shortly thereafter, I deleted my RedHat partition (after using it for three months).
Now (a few years later), I can't use BeOS (due to my Duron CPU, I think, complicated by a broken floppy drive) - so Windows XP is my GUI OS of choice. Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.;-) On my server machine, however, I run FreeBSD. Without XWindows, and with no keyboard, mouse, or monitor.
I enjoy Windows XP (Pro), given that I'm very accustomed to the oddities of Windows. I can use it effectively for my needs. I haven't had a failure yet, and I haven't needed to reinstall it, either.
I'd still like to run BeOS every once in a while, though. Vision was a great IRC client. SoundPlay + BeInYourStereo was an awesome combination for MP3 playing. I even designed a custom skin for it:) I wish someone would port it to FreeBSD, though.
I wouldn't exactly call the existing space shuttles "disaster prone".
They've flown for 22 years. Imagine what the mileage is? Somewhere in the millions, maybe even billions.
Only two out of five have failed.
I would only concede the disaster-prone point when considering that the astronauts lives were lost; that's certainly a little more impactful than a bunch of drunken teenagers totalling a car, right? But even then, the shuttles themselves are not disaster-prone; it's just that any slight mishap is instantly promoted to National Disaster and Mourning Period status.
The person's point above, that the shuttle's computers are outdated, is partially true - but they are entirely adequate for running the onboard software. When you're developing a system like the shuttle, you simply cannot use the latest technology. It has to be military-certified for mission critical systems, and it has to go through about two years of testing to acheive that status. That point was made in the article, that once you "freeze" development, that's what you're stuck with.
The shuttles work as they were designed.
The problem is that NASA made them too high-maintenance.
I fully agree with the article's point, that an automated human escape mechanism is required in reusable space flight vehicles. Heck, even Star Trek has escape pods.
I don't need a GUI interface to that machine. It has no monitor. It has no keyboard. It has no mouse. I access it using SecureShell, or sometimes Samba.
Most of my development, I do under Windows XP Pro with normal GUI tools (Eclipse, HomeSite 4.5.1 - I mostly code PHP), using Samba to save the files to the FreeBSD server.
In all the implementations I've used, however, it's been a poor hodgepodge of unstable apps, laggy display rendering (on a Voodoo Banshee, which has dandy 2D capability), and butt-ugly interfaces. I never got a chance to try 3D.
Now, I haven't used XFree extensively in RH9, I hear it's quite nice in fact - the last time I used it was on Debian Woody (XFree86 4.2, i think). As always, I couldn't stand the Gnome and KDE interfaces - they always irritate me.
XFree86 running Fluxbox wasn't so bad, but... every single application has a different "look". Different buttons, different menus, different widgets. It annoys the hell out of me.
When I'm using a GUI, I demand consistency - if not in layout, then at least in appearance. Mozilla is the lone exception (I can understand why they deviated and created their own layout library).
That's why I use command-line unix (FreeBSD), and some Windows variant as a desktop GUI (on a different machine, of course).
Eventually I might give RH9 and KDE3 a try, but not right now.:)
Quick, find a spam bill and forward it to 15 of your friends, with a note that says Bill Gates will give them a thousand dollars if they forward it to 15 of their friends.
Bill Gates will give you a thousand dollars if you do.
I'm sure there are people out there far better qualified to contribute to the discussion than I am, but I'll take one stab:
Ports are not located in/usr/src, they are located in/usr/ports. It sounds like you tried to "convert" your already installed box to a "freebsd workstation" installation of some sort; that has nothing to do with ports, that's a world-level change.
According to the Canadian Government, our economy is more robust today than at any time in the past decade. It's funny to see the Canadian dollar at $0.72 American, since it's been at $0.67 for so long.
As for travelling... well, I've never travelled. I've only left BC and ventured a few miles into Washington. But something tells me that carrying any cash on vacation, at least in some areas, might be a poor idea. Traveller's checks are insured, after all.
Yes, relying on an ATM card is unwise - but the statement that "few banks will exchange canadian money" a few posts above is totally untrue.
Have you ever seen a bank that would refuse to take money from someone?
Slashdot Mirror
Yay! A BeOS fan :)
:) Shortly thereafter, I deleted my RedHat partition (after using it for three months).
;-) On my server machine, however, I run FreeBSD. Without XWindows, and with no keyboard, mouse, or monitor.
:) I wish someone would port it to FreeBSD, though.
Way back when, I had a triple-boot of RedHat 6.2, BeOS R4, and Windows 98.
BeOS R4 was unable to use my Voodoo Banshee (still my only display adapter, btw), so I was in glorious greyscale - and I still loved it. I bought R4.5 as soon as I could, with Banshee support. It was awesome
Now (a few years later), I can't use BeOS (due to my Duron CPU, I think, complicated by a broken floppy drive) - so Windows XP is my GUI OS of choice. Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.
I enjoy Windows XP (Pro), given that I'm very accustomed to the oddities of Windows. I can use it effectively for my needs. I haven't had a failure yet, and I haven't needed to reinstall it, either.
I'd still like to run BeOS every once in a while, though. Vision was a great IRC client. SoundPlay + BeInYourStereo was an awesome combination for MP3 playing. I even designed a custom skin for it
... I met a shady character in a bar, and he told me that one day machines would rule us with twisted-pair whips.
It took me years to figure out what he meant.
Damn those corporate drones in middle management.
I wouldn't exactly call the existing space shuttles "disaster prone".
They've flown for 22 years. Imagine what the mileage is? Somewhere in the millions, maybe even billions.
Only two out of five have failed.
I would only concede the disaster-prone point when considering that the astronauts lives were lost; that's certainly a little more impactful than a bunch of drunken teenagers totalling a car, right? But even then, the shuttles themselves are not disaster-prone; it's just that any slight mishap is instantly promoted to National Disaster and Mourning Period status.
The person's point above, that the shuttle's computers are outdated, is partially true - but they are entirely adequate for running the onboard software. When you're developing a system like the shuttle, you simply cannot use the latest technology. It has to be military-certified for mission critical systems, and it has to go through about two years of testing to acheive that status. That point was made in the article, that once you "freeze" development, that's what you're stuck with.
The shuttles work as they were designed.
The problem is that NASA made them too high-maintenance.
I fully agree with the article's point, that an automated human escape mechanism is required in reusable space flight vehicles. Heck, even Star Trek has escape pods.
Actually, come to think of it, we're spawning a Neuromancer-style situation, where people have to be hackers to circumvent regulations.
Hopefully "people" will be victorious over "government sanctioned actions".
And they say *BSD is dying ... geez ... :)
Maybe Al Gore can hurry up and finish Internet2?
I don't need a GUI interface to that machine. It has no monitor. It has no keyboard. It has no mouse. I access it using SecureShell, or sometimes Samba.
Most of my development, I do under Windows XP Pro with normal GUI tools (Eclipse, HomeSite 4.5.1 - I mostly code PHP), using Samba to save the files to the FreeBSD server.
Does squid violate copyright laws, if you sell access to your cache? :)
If you want to run GUI on Linux/UNIX, you generally have to bow down and worship the X11 Gods.
:)
I run my *nix boxen headless and without a GUI. They all work fine. I'm happy this way.
Yes, it can be implemented well.
... every single application has a different "look". Different buttons, different menus, different widgets. It annoys the hell out of me.
:)
In all the implementations I've used, however, it's been a poor hodgepodge of unstable apps, laggy display rendering (on a Voodoo Banshee, which has dandy 2D capability), and butt-ugly interfaces. I never got a chance to try 3D.
Now, I haven't used XFree extensively in RH9, I hear it's quite nice in fact - the last time I used it was on Debian Woody (XFree86 4.2, i think). As always, I couldn't stand the Gnome and KDE interfaces - they always irritate me.
XFree86 running Fluxbox wasn't so bad, but
When I'm using a GUI, I demand consistency - if not in layout, then at least in appearance. Mozilla is the lone exception (I can understand why they deviated and created their own layout library).
That's why I use command-line unix (FreeBSD), and some Windows variant as a desktop GUI (on a different machine, of course).
Eventually I might give RH9 and KDE3 a try, but not right now.
I *do*. :) I run FreeBSD without X11, vi is my text editor of choice.
I wish them luck. I want to have a choice, instead of being forced to use X11 for GUI on *nix :)
I almost fell over laughing when that AC copied and pasted the book review as a comment, "in case of slashdotting". Classic. :)
Hahah, I was so wrong :) Ah well. I got the first letter right, and I had an "i" as well. ;-)
He didn't touch Duke Nukem 3D or Unreal, they were made by independent companies.
:)
3D Realms made the BUILD engine themselves. Eidos made the UNREAL engine themselves.
Dunno what that guy is smoking, but I sure as hell don't want any
That would be the Composting iLoo, a new (competing) product from Apple. Hippies, the lot of them.
Have I ever told you about Sammy Jankis?
The code was still in 4.4BSD-Lite which FreebSD-2.0 imported and was removed in 4.4BSD-Lite2, which FreeBSD-3.0 imported.
Therefore, FreeBSD versions higher than 3.0 are immune to this dispute, and only specific applications may be at fault.
Spam Bill Spam!
Quick, find a spam bill and forward it to 15 of your friends, with a note that says Bill Gates will give them a thousand dollars if they forward it to 15 of their friends.
Bill Gates will give you a thousand dollars if you do.
I'm sure there are people out there far better qualified to contribute to the discussion than I am, but I'll take one stab:
/usr/src, they are located in /usr/ports. It sounds like you tried to "convert" your already installed box to a "freebsd workstation" installation of some sort; that has nothing to do with ports, that's a world-level change.
Ports are not located in
Who needs error correction when you have wget?
I don't plan on giving John Romero any of my money.
..
He told me, via ads in PC Gamer, to "Suck it down"
No, Mr. Romero, *you* suck it down.
Yeah, true. But that won't make them Brazilian.
If these robots accidentally collide or tackle someone in soccer, forget about an instant red-card - it would probably crush bones.
According to the Canadian Government, our economy is more robust today than at any time in the past decade. It's funny to see the Canadian dollar at $0.72 American, since it's been at $0.67 for so long.
... well, I've never travelled. I've only left BC and ventured a few miles into Washington. But something tells me that carrying any cash on vacation, at least in some areas, might be a poor idea. Traveller's checks are insured, after all.
As for travelling
Yes, relying on an ATM card is unwise - but the statement that "few banks will exchange canadian money" a few posts above is totally untrue.
Have you ever seen a bank that would refuse to take money from someone?
"Dammit, where did my girlfriend go?", he mourned.