In KDE, you have Control Center in |Preferences| menu, which you use to control almost all of your desktop manager settings. Most of those settings come with auto-preview, which lets you check the appearance before you hit the 'Apply' button.
Gnome does the same and does it on the fly, as you click through different options.
As we all know, both managers are fully user configurable, unlike Windows one.
However, the whole usability issue cannot be looked at through 'look&feel' of the user's GUI. In all three managers mentioned above (and this applies to Mac OS X too), the problem is basic paradigm on which they were all built - windowing environment designed by (arguably) Xerox for immensly less complicated systems, where you could see almost entire system tree in a single window. Today's babies are a bit different and I think that somebody needs to come up with entirely different approach to how we do actual work using certain apps (search for and edit documents, attach them to emails, retrieve useful info from the Internet, catalogue and play multimedia and so on). What different way? Well, I have no idea, that's what we use geniuses for, isn't it?
I've been through 2 rebranding exercises myself. One doesn't really count since it was publicly owned monopoly in utilities sector - their customers do not have anywhere else to go anyway. The other one was technical (IT) training company.
Now, I'm just a techo guy, so I wasn't directly involved but I took the opportunity to ask questions both times. The answer was pretty simple - you engage customers themselves as much as you can from the beginning. That way, they feel they are part of the process, get assurance that you actually think about them, not only about how regularly they pay invoices. They become part of the process, adding more momentum to it.
AS far as Novell goes, I see no problems with their NetWare 3/4 clients moving to different technology. Everything is evolving, technology likewise. Novell, I assume, had to hang on to those clients simply because they couldn't provide anything else - they didn't have any credible new products. With SuSE they do. Sure, they may lose some of the clients to Microsoft but I'm guessing they would get shitloads of new ones willing to utilise Novell apps ported to SuSE.
Although this would seem outrageously radical move, it could actually work better than a long known brand name which became a symbol of failure. They were pretty agressive with aquisitions in open source world, why not just apply that on the marketing level?
I wish them well. More strong Linux/OSS companies can only be good for overall computing experience.
Even if you're right and they indeed played with their accounts, why do you think that I should 'swallow the truth'? I don't work for Red Hat and I don't own any RH shares. But, whatever.
Due to their history, they certainly do not deserve flaming, at least not before any (deliberate or not) mistakes are proven.
Domain names in the.com and.net domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net for detailed information.
No match for domain "SHOWUSYOURBOOBIES.NET".
>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:26:49 EDT <<<
'Arrogant' is a remark I hear all my life about Americans and French alike. What a load of crock. There's what - ~300 M people in these two countries and all of them are arrogant? Your comment, on the other hand, makes you (at best) ignorant.
Not a lawyer either but from the paragraph 5.3.4. - if I understand it well - original GPLed code (including modifications to it by licensee) can be distributed under the GPL, purpose being to retain GPL compatibility.
Answer is probably 'Yes' - CeCILL does not conflict GPL, it is rather an extension to it, so certain French legalities are better clarified.
As I said, IANAL so I may very well be talking bullshit.
Dude, do you really have to say something about everything? Are you doing this only on/. or you're the same in real life? God forbid spending any significant amount of time close to you.
Topic wise, without RTFA, this looks like someone integrated VNC and Superkaramba?!?
Been there, done that. After 11 years (last three surviving on 10 DEM a week) of swallowing tear gas through my mouth and police and militia battons through my back, I finally swallowed my pride, told myself 'Fuck it' and left.
It was pretty tough. Those who rulled already took everything - our jobs, media, companies, our money from state-owned banks, used it to gather around the utmost scum and create their own militias first. No help from anywhere. Every time we thought we had critical mass required to do something, they would bribe large group of people - be it workers, be it pensioners, teachers, whoever and it was back to square 1.
I guess at times we (people) just need to create excuse good enough to trip ourselves over - mine was that I needed to get out of there to save my children. After 8 years of living abroad (where I am pretty happy), I realised that it was just an excuse for finally exceeding my own level of tollerance.
I'll probably never go back and so far, I'm cool about that. However, the feeling of being hard done by by my countrymen whose threshold is apparently 5 years longer - in 2000. they actually did it, tells me never say never, thou.
Get out and do what, then? You think EU, USA, AUNZ are throwing visas at them?
I agree, though. People should seriously consider leaving countries where there isn't any hope of getting fair regulation of certain issues. And I'm not talking about ecommerce - people in said countries are in shit up to their necks. Internet issues are the least of their problems.
Consumer protection laws, as I understand the situation, do not quite cover end user. Ownership transfer isn't taking place - end user signs EULA to get a grant to use someone elses product, in this case Microsoft's.
I'd rather be willing to explore the possibilities to sue people who make decisions to license half-assed products, waste additional money on AV software and man hours to keep holes closed, employ incompetent administrators which results in wasting everybody's money and time when Internet links get totally clogged and so on.
I can't see it happening thou. Those same people are FUD masters as well - if they are not, how else would they justify decisions to pay for Windows to whoever approves spending?
Exactly. I really fail to see why would any outfit, be it school, uni, business... have the obligation of providing access to networked environment for users' own computers.
It doesn't matter what the level of computer literacy of said users is either. If they are clueless, they are dangerous by one definition. If they are cluefull - they are dangerous again, only by other definition.
If institution can't provide them with the controlled computing facilities, access should not be granted at all. Full stop.
I started refusing to install/patch windows on home computers. Clever friends chose fc2 + xover if they must have some win app. Those not so clever have to find someone else. They'll come back soon.
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Technically, correct. Essentially, I thought the idea of democracy is to protect minority from majority.
I agree with you, though. Democracy and freedom are not interchangable terms.
...is on temporary halt as well, I'd be happy to entertain Angelina until re-release, thank you very much.
You new around here?
I thought so too but if that was the case, there's no place for text file editing reference.
Mind to explain how is this more complicated in default install of any recent Linux distribution?
In KDE, you have Control Center in |Preferences| menu, which you use to control almost all of your desktop manager settings. Most of those settings come with auto-preview, which lets you check the appearance before you hit the 'Apply' button.
Gnome does the same and does it on the fly, as you click through different options.
As we all know, both managers are fully user configurable, unlike Windows one.
However, the whole usability issue cannot be looked at through 'look&feel' of the user's GUI. In all three managers mentioned above (and this applies to Mac OS X too), the problem is basic paradigm on which they were all built - windowing environment designed by (arguably) Xerox for immensly less complicated systems, where you could see almost entire system tree in a single window. Today's babies are a bit different and I think that somebody needs to come up with entirely different approach to how we do actual work using certain apps (search for and edit documents, attach them to emails, retrieve useful info from the Internet, catalogue and play multimedia and so on). What different way? Well, I have no idea, that's what we use geniuses for, isn't it?
Now, I'm just a techo guy, so I wasn't directly involved but I took the opportunity to ask questions both times. The answer was pretty simple - you engage customers themselves as much as you can from the beginning. That way, they feel they are part of the process, get assurance that you actually think about them, not only about how regularly they pay invoices. They become part of the process, adding more momentum to it.
AS far as Novell goes, I see no problems with their NetWare 3/4 clients moving to different technology. Everything is evolving, technology likewise. Novell, I assume, had to hang on to those clients simply because they couldn't provide anything else - they didn't have any credible new products. With SuSE they do. Sure, they may lose some of the clients to Microsoft but I'm guessing they would get shitloads of new ones willing to utilise Novell apps ported to SuSE.
I wish them well. More strong Linux/OSS companies can only be good for overall computing experience.
Due to their history, they certainly do not deserve flaming, at least not before any (deliberate or not) mistakes are proven.
What he posted is bullshit. Does not apply to TFA. RH have not cooked their books.
Webex actually has a Mozilla client - no problems doing Red Hat webcasts.
Here we go:
.com and .net domains can now be registered
whois showusyourboobies.net
[Querying whois.internic.net]
[whois.internic.net]
Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
No match for domain "SHOWUSYOURBOOBIES.NET".
>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:26:49 EDT <<<
yum -y --breakXP upgrade
'Arrogant' is a remark I hear all my life about Americans and French alike. What a load of crock. There's what - ~300 M people in these two countries and all of them are arrogant? Your comment, on the other hand, makes you (at best) ignorant.
Answer is probably 'Yes' - CeCILL does not conflict GPL, it is rather an extension to it, so certain French legalities are better clarified.
As I said, IANAL so I may very well be talking bullshit.
Topic wise, without RTFA, this looks like someone integrated VNC and Superkaramba?!?
What else to expect from BullShitAgency
You two remind me of Saddam and a judge.
It was pretty tough. Those who rulled already took everything - our jobs, media, companies, our money from state-owned banks, used it to gather around the utmost scum and create their own militias first. No help from anywhere. Every time we thought we had critical mass required to do something, they would bribe large group of people - be it workers, be it pensioners, teachers, whoever and it was back to square 1.
I guess at times we (people) just need to create excuse good enough to trip ourselves over - mine was that I needed to get out of there to save my children. After 8 years of living abroad (where I am pretty happy), I realised that it was just an excuse for finally exceeding my own level of tollerance.
I'll probably never go back and so far, I'm cool about that. However, the feeling of being hard done by by my countrymen whose threshold is apparently 5 years longer - in 2000. they actually did it, tells me never say never, thou.
I agree, though. People should seriously consider leaving countries where there isn't any hope of getting fair regulation of certain issues. And I'm not talking about ecommerce - people in said countries are in shit up to their necks. Internet issues are the least of their problems.
If there ever was a President who forgot that USA=!world, that was Clinton.
I'd rather be willing to explore the possibilities to sue people who make decisions to license half-assed products, waste additional money on AV software and man hours to keep holes closed, employ incompetent administrators which results in wasting everybody's money and time when Internet links get totally clogged and so on.
I can't see it happening thou. Those same people are FUD masters as well - if they are not, how else would they justify decisions to pay for Windows to whoever approves spending?
It doesn't matter what the level of computer literacy of said users is either. If they are clueless, they are dangerous by one definition. If they are cluefull - they are dangerous again, only by other definition.
If institution can't provide them with the controlled computing facilities, access should not be granted at all. Full stop.
I started refusing to install/patch windows on home computers. Clever friends chose fc2 + xover if they must have some win app. Those not so clever have to find someone else. They'll come back soon.
I had to wait 24 hours to see how many. Apparently, all of them, my friend.