That's a confused comparison, really. Since ARM isn't x86-compatible and all. I mean, PICs are low-power too but they aren't really in the same market as x86 architectures. And the performance per watt of Transmeta's Astro core is much higher than any ARM, no matter how you measure performance.
I think it's naieve to think that only those with children benefit from educating the population. Can you really not think of any benefits of public education other than being one of the random 1000 to get a cheap old laptop?
Also, as the OP pointed out, eBAY is just one option that beats the hell out of $50/pop plus a riot (and I'd gladly handle the shipping and refunds, paypal chargebacks, or whatever for a chunk of the $150k or more profit.) The could sell them wholesale for more than $50/pop.
QQQ looks like someone playing Q3 with smeared graphics. DEVMAP looks kinda cool in the screenshots, but I still can't tell what it's supposed to do. Other than to pimp your blog, it's not clear why you posted these links. Can you give a little more explanation (the links sure don't?)
So what? OP said "Same here, I'm running a 2800+ with a GF6800 (stock not GT or ultra) and can play ANY game with full details and I get great framerates.. " then "BF2 with 64 players and no hitching, does that count?"
Follow the thread or stay out of it. If you did read the entire thread and still didn't understand, then I apologize for shining the spotlight on your mental handicap.
They make so many of you go nuts with OT crap that gets moderated up. And ensures that any dissent is moderated down, no matter how reasonable. Enjoy preaching to the choir. Those of us with reasoned, intelligent thoughts that don't tow your party line will take them elsewhere.
Intellectual isolationism may feel good, but it makes you dumb.
It would if you could really play BF2 on max quality with a 6600, but you can't. I guarantee at least your textures are at medium or lower. Probably less-than max in a few other video areas also.
I could only add a max of 8 cars. That's nowhere near "way too many" IMHO. And there doesn't appear to be any way to remove them once you've bogged down the game speed with "8 whole cars!"
I read this entire thread at my default threshold of 3 looking for why this is worthy news, but I found only arguments about which side of the road people drive on, and why "photorealism pisses off" some guy. Then I re-read at threshold 1 again. Still nothing.
No. Maybe you were trying to be funny; if not, please look up "fractal."
BTW, I don't really understand why this is a front-page story. It's fairly bland. What am I missing?
So much for allowing freedom of commentary without moderation in advertising. Did anybody honestly expect anything other than this? I mean, of course they are going to moderate what gets published. Especially when it comes to a potential sale of their product. Mess with a company's bottom line and you'll certainly get censored.
It's still confused. There is no reasonable expectation for any company to provide you a platform or arena from which to criticize the product or services they sell.
I'll take it a step further: it is a good thing that this is the case. Why? Because if we all got used to trusting the reviews provided by the seller, we would naturally begin to lose some or all of the more independent and difficult-to-control-or-censor sources of reviews. Those sources are scarce enough as it is (i.e., consumerreports.org and, um, well, maybe others.)
After enough time of consumers putting (even warranted) trust in the amazon, newegg, or foocorp reviews, independents such as consumerreports.org that reply on user subscription fees to exist would go out of business.
Then you'd have no choice, whether or not the commercial sites continued to provide reviews (or selections of user-submitted reviews) that warrant your trust.
If you read the review, you'd know that chorded-clicks don't work (the reviewer tested it and commented on it.) If you read the Apple product page on this mouse and made an effort to understand how the mouse works you'd see that it is physically impossible for this mouse design to register a simultaneous left and right click.
(There is only one mechanical switch for the top two buttons, and there are capacitive sensors over the right and left sides of the mouse to determine which side was being touched most when the click happened. Since these sensors are not particulary precise, they can't be used to reliably differentiate three states: left, right, both, but they can be used to differentiate two, with preference given to the more common left-click.)
BTW, you're a hostile nuisance and you should be embarassed by your own behavior here. You should apologize to Mr. Chaotica for your assholish behavior.
"Thanks to a smooth top shell with touch-sensitive technology beneath, Mighty Mouse allows you to right click without a right button. Capacitive sensors under Mighty Mouse's seamless top shell detect where your fingers are and predict your clicking intentions, so you don't need two buttons -- just two fingers. Click on the left side to use Mighty Mouse in its simplest, single-button form. Click on the right to access contextual menus within applications and edit, copy, label or download from your mouse."
If there were two mechanical switches to detect which button was pressed, why would they need the two touch-sensitive areas to "detect where your fingers are?" If there's only one mechanical switch to detect a click from the top (excluding the scroll-ball button) and the touch-sensitive areas are used to determine which "button" you're pressing (which side is getting most pressure) then it would be very difficult to differentiate pressing one or the other button versus pressing both. Maybe even impossible because of limitations in the capacitive sensor technology used.
The "two side buttons" are really one, or at least they're treated that way in the driver config screenshot image I linked above. You "squeeze" both to activate a single function.
Five? I think it's four. The two side "squeeze" buttons are one in the same (not individually programmable.) See this screen shot and read:
And with touch-sensitive technology concealed under the seamless top shell, you get the programability of a four-button mouse in a single-button design. Click, roll, squeeze and scroll. This mouse just aced the maze.
Sorry folks, I was wrong about the scroll-ball thingy -- it is clickable.
But the other two top buttons still rely on a single switch (and the touch-sensitive areas to differentiate right- and left-clicks) so you can't press both at once.
Correction: the scroll ball is a clickable button. But the other two top buttons do in fact rely on a single switch and cannot be both pressed at once.
Second, it is NOT "touch sensitive"! There are real, physical microswitches that have an audible and tactile feature when clicked, just like any other mouse. The mouse body rocks when depressed in a particular direction, and the appropriate button is clicked.
This isn't quite true. It is touch sensitive:
Scroll Ball that lets you move anywhere inside a document, without lifting a finger. And with touch-sensitive technology concealed under the seamless top shell, you get the programability of a four-button mouse in a single-button design. Click, roll, squeeze and scroll.
You seem to be thinking that there's two buttons (switches) in the shell and, depending on which side of the mouse you press down, one or the other is activated. This isn't right. There's one switch for pressing either of the top buttons. The touch-sensitive areas on the top are used to determine which "button" was pressed.
Capacitive sensors under Mighty Mouse's seamless top shell detect where your fingers are and predict your clicking intentions, so you don't need two buttons -- just two fingers. Click on the left side to use Mighty Mouse in its simplest, single-button form. Click on the right to access contextual menus within applications and edit, copy, label or download from your mouse.
That means you can't press both top buttons at the same time, which is the only complaint I have with this mouse besides the lack of a middle button (or clickable track-ball-scroll-thingy.)
It's an issue for me. In many cases, including both apps I use at work and FPS games I play at home, I need to press two mouse buttons at once. For example, in FPS games I assign mouse1 to fire/attack, mouse2 is move forward, and mouse3 (middle) is move backward.
I can't run (forward or back) and shoot at the same time with this -- there's only one button "switch" and the "touch-sensitive areas" on top just determine which "virtual button" you were pressing when that switch is closed. I can run and gun using the mx1000 since it really has two button switches (though they are both covered by the same flexible hunk of plastic.)
Seems that there's no middle button at all (unless you can click the trackball/scroller, which doesn't seem to be the case since the site says "two top buttons.") This is unfortunate.
Still, it looks cool. I just wish the "middle" scrolly thing was a button as well, and that one could click multiple buttons at once.
Indeed, it has four "button areas" you can press. But that's not what the post said:
"It appears that the entire surface is touch-sensitive, allowing the mouse to be programmed as a single-button, multi-button or scrolling device."
No, it does not appear that way. From TFA:
It wouldn't be fair to call Mighty Mouse a two-button mouse with one button. Especially when it responds to pressure from your fingers in four different places. Besides the left- and right-click functions, the Scroll Ball clicks down to act as a third mouse button. And force-sensing buttons on either side of Mighty Mouse respond when you press in with your finger and thumb.
That's a far cry from a mouse completely covered in touch-sensitive surface, which implies I can program a bunch of areas (or at least more than two) on the top as seperate buttons. It's clear from the Apple site that I cannot do that with this mouse. There are two buttons on top (shame they couldn't make the track-ball scroll thingy a button too -- no middle button on top makes this unsuitable for me.) There are two buttons on the sides. Still looks very cool, and like the scroll-ball-thing, but there is no middle button on the top and that's a bit of a letdown for me.
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That's a confused comparison, really. Since ARM isn't x86-compatible and all. I mean, PICs are low-power too but they aren't really in the same market as x86 architectures. And the performance per watt of Transmeta's Astro core is much higher than any ARM, no matter how you measure performance.
I think it's naieve to think that only those with children benefit from educating the population. Can you really not think of any benefits of public education other than being one of the random 1000 to get a cheap old laptop?
Also, as the OP pointed out, eBAY is just one option that beats the hell out of $50/pop plus a riot (and I'd gladly handle the shipping and refunds, paypal chargebacks, or whatever for a chunk of the $150k or more profit.) The could sell them wholesale for more than $50/pop.
QQQ looks like someone playing Q3 with smeared graphics. DEVMAP looks kinda cool in the screenshots, but I still can't tell what it's supposed to do. Other than to pimp your blog, it's not clear why you posted these links. Can you give a little more explanation (the links sure don't?)
Bumvertising.
It's good for your company, and it's good for the bums!
So what? OP said "Same here, I'm running a 2800+ with a GF6800 (stock not GT or ultra) and can play ANY game with full details and I get great framerates.. " then "BF2 with 64 players and no hitching, does that count?"
Follow the thread or stay out of it. If you did read the entire thread and still didn't understand, then I apologize for shining the spotlight on your mental handicap.
They make so many of you go nuts with OT crap that gets moderated up. And ensures that any dissent is moderated down, no matter how reasonable. Enjoy preaching to the choir. Those of us with reasoned, intelligent thoughts that don't tow your party line will take them elsewhere.
Intellectual isolationism may feel good, but it makes you dumb.
Which game?
It would if you could really play BF2 on max quality with a 6600, but you can't. I guarantee at least your textures are at medium or lower. Probably less-than max in a few other video areas also.
No, I did press the F1 key. Change colors, add cars, yawn.
I could only add a max of 8 cars. That's nowhere near "way too many" IMHO. And there doesn't appear to be any way to remove them once you've bogged down the game speed with "8 whole cars!"
I read this entire thread at my default threshold of 3 looking for why this is worthy news, but I found only arguments about which side of the road people drive on, and why "photorealism pisses off" some guy. Then I re-read at threshold 1 again. Still nothing.
Pretty disappointing waste of time.
No. Maybe you were trying to be funny; if not, please look up "fractal." BTW, I don't really understand why this is a front-page story. It's fairly bland. What am I missing?
With that change your post becomes:
So much for allowing freedom of commentary without moderation in advertising. Did anybody honestly expect anything other than this? I mean, of course they are going to moderate what gets published. Especially when it comes to a potential sale of their product. Mess with a company's bottom line and you'll certainly get censored.
It's still confused. There is no reasonable expectation for any company to provide you a platform or arena from which to criticize the product or services they sell.
I'll take it a step further: it is a good thing that this is the case. Why? Because if we all got used to trusting the reviews provided by the seller, we would naturally begin to lose some or all of the more independent and difficult-to-control-or-censor sources of reviews. Those sources are scarce enough as it is (i.e., consumerreports.org and, um, well, maybe others.)
After enough time of consumers putting (even warranted) trust in the amazon, newegg, or foocorp reviews, independents such as consumerreports.org that reply on user subscription fees to exist would go out of business.
Then you'd have no choice, whether or not the commercial sites continued to provide reviews (or selections of user-submitted reviews) that warrant your trust.
If you read the review, you'd know that chorded-clicks don't work (the reviewer tested it and commented on it.) If you read the Apple product page on this mouse and made an effort to understand how the mouse works you'd see that it is physically impossible for this mouse design to register a simultaneous left and right click.
(There is only one mechanical switch for the top two buttons, and there are capacitive sensors over the right and left sides of the mouse to determine which side was being touched most when the click happened. Since these sensors are not particulary precise, they can't be used to reliably differentiate three states: left, right, both, but they can be used to differentiate two, with preference given to the more common left-click.)
BTW, you're a hostile nuisance and you should be embarassed by your own behavior here. You should apologize to Mr. Chaotica for your assholish behavior.
From the design page:
"Thanks to a smooth top shell with touch-sensitive technology beneath, Mighty Mouse allows you to right click without a right button. Capacitive sensors under Mighty Mouse's seamless top shell detect where your fingers are and predict your clicking intentions, so you don't need two buttons -- just two fingers. Click on the left side to use Mighty Mouse in its simplest, single-button form. Click on the right to access contextual menus within applications and edit, copy, label or download from your mouse."
If there were two mechanical switches to detect which button was pressed, why would they need the two touch-sensitive areas to "detect where your fingers are?" If there's only one mechanical switch to detect a click from the top (excluding the scroll-ball button) and the touch-sensitive areas are used to determine which "button" you're pressing (which side is getting most pressure) then it would be very difficult to differentiate pressing one or the other button versus pressing both. Maybe even impossible because of limitations in the capacitive sensor technology used.
The "two side buttons" are really one, or at least they're treated that way in the driver config screenshot image I linked above. You "squeeze" both to activate a single function.
Five? I think it's four. The two side "squeeze" buttons are one in the same (not individually programmable.) See this screen shot and read:
And with touch-sensitive technology concealed under the seamless top shell, you get the programability of a four-button mouse in a single-button design. Click, roll, squeeze and scroll. This mouse just aced the maze.
Sorry folks, I was wrong about the scroll-ball thingy -- it is clickable.
But the other two top buttons still rely on a single switch (and the touch-sensitive areas to differentiate right- and left-clicks) so you can't press both at once.
Great story. Too bad it's false.
Correction: the scroll ball is a clickable button. But the other two top buttons do in fact rely on a single switch and cannot be both pressed at once.
Right -- sorry. I see that now.
Second, it is NOT "touch sensitive"! There are real, physical microswitches that have an audible and tactile feature when clicked, just like any other mouse. The mouse body rocks when depressed in a particular direction, and the appropriate button is clicked.
This isn't quite true. It is touch sensitive:
Scroll Ball that lets you move anywhere inside a document, without lifting a finger. And with touch-sensitive technology concealed under the seamless top shell, you get the programability of a four-button mouse in a single-button design. Click, roll, squeeze and scroll.
You seem to be thinking that there's two buttons (switches) in the shell and, depending on which side of the mouse you press down, one or the other is activated. This isn't right. There's one switch for pressing either of the top buttons. The touch-sensitive areas on the top are used to determine which "button" was pressed.
Capacitive sensors under Mighty Mouse's seamless top shell detect where your fingers are and predict your clicking intentions, so you don't need two buttons -- just two fingers. Click on the left side to use Mighty Mouse in its simplest, single-button form. Click on the right to access contextual menus within applications and edit, copy, label or download from your mouse.
That means you can't press both top buttons at the same time, which is the only complaint I have with this mouse besides the lack of a middle button (or clickable track-ball-scroll-thingy.)
Yes. From the tech specs: "Mac OS X (programmability requires Mac OS X v10.4.2 Tiger or later), or Windows 2000 or Windows XP."
It's an issue for me. In many cases, including both apps I use at work and FPS games I play at home, I need to press two mouse buttons at once. For example, in FPS games I assign mouse1 to fire/attack, mouse2 is move forward, and mouse3 (middle) is move backward.
I can't run (forward or back) and shoot at the same time with this -- there's only one button "switch" and the "touch-sensitive areas" on top just determine which "virtual button" you were pressing when that switch is closed. I can run and gun using the mx1000 since it really has two button switches (though they are both covered by the same flexible hunk of plastic.)
Seems that there's no middle button at all (unless you can click the trackball/scroller, which doesn't seem to be the case since the site says "two top buttons.") This is unfortunate.
Still, it looks cool. I just wish the "middle" scrolly thing was a button as well, and that one could click multiple buttons at once.
Indeed, it has four "button areas" you can press. But that's not what the post said:
"It appears that the entire surface is touch-sensitive, allowing the mouse to be programmed as a single-button, multi-button or scrolling device."
No, it does not appear that way. From TFA:
It wouldn't be fair to call Mighty Mouse a two-button mouse with one button. Especially when it responds to pressure from your fingers in four different places. Besides the left- and right-click functions, the Scroll Ball clicks down to act as a third mouse button. And force-sensing buttons on either side of Mighty Mouse respond when you press in with your finger and thumb.
That's a far cry from a mouse completely covered in touch-sensitive surface, which implies I can program a bunch of areas (or at least more than two) on the top as seperate buttons. It's clear from the Apple site that I cannot do that with this mouse. There are two buttons on top (shame they couldn't make the track-ball scroll thingy a button too -- no middle button on top makes this unsuitable for me.) There are two buttons on the sides. Still looks very cool, and like the scroll-ball-thing, but there is no middle button on the top and that's a bit of a letdown for me.
Reporters who investigate and solve crimes? Like Superman?!