Back in my day we didn't have all these fancy wireless type connections. We were happy with the new 2400 baud modem pool and ignored the 1200 baud pool. Inside the campus ISN (predates ISDN) was the communication method preferred (with WIRES).
The problems over the years really haven't changed all that much. My ISN port was @ 9600 baud and I wanted the full 38,400 baud available. Hack in.
Fortunately the modem pool tied in via ISN -- need a modem? Reset a few ports and take control. Server on campus too busy? Knock 'em all offline. I can even think of a few locks on doors that didn't slow us down. Oh, and when we needed software... we WROTE IT ourselves.
Their called Mac's. Oh, sure, there's some Linux workstations peppered about. Mostly for the zealots, but of course some test beds with the neophite type users.
The ONLY thing that Win2K anymore is... AutoCAD (which is the only version of Windows left deployed -- 98se is gone, WFW3.11 is long gone and XP never saw the light of day thank goodness!)
Ironically I've been more than happy to supply feedback to AutoDesk with regards to their OS X flavored version in development. Started on the Mac, may end up back there again. YEAH!
Otherwise -- we're seriously exploring all alternatives for 3D CAD residential and commercial building, surveying, and landscaping type design which is where the majority of my clients needs fall. Some mechanical which were are the first to want to play with the Linux (old Windows boxes:) and Mac's as available.
Heck, the network have been segmented, physically and logically at the switches in the computer rooms. "Windows" and "Everybody else". When traffic goes nuts (somebody brought a virus riddled laptop in and hit the network somewhere) -- the switches will auto-shutdown the Windows segments. I've even happily supplied network jacks at open desks, lunch room, break rooms, warehouse, etc -- they all go to a secondary (yet sub-segmented) switch bank.
ISP complaints when it _does_ happen inside? -0- the problem can take care of itself. On a lower level I've done the same thing at home with a little help from, what is it this year?, iptables (I was still thinking chains and miss just fw:). Go ahead and bring your [Windows] laptop in -- here's a port. Virus infected won't even touch the ISP much less my Linux boxes, Powerbook [wife;], or the beloved PowerMac. Great for testing before rolling it out anywhere...:)
Word Processing, Spreadsheets, pick a graphic format, pick a video format, pick a sound format -- put it all together and mix it up a bit... you pretty much come up with iLife. [no, i do NOT work for Apple, I just happen to also dig my iPod;*]
Microsoft's contracts with PC-makers required them to pay it for a copy of Windows for each PC sold, even for PCs that were sold with other operating systems, or with no operating system at all.
This is exactly what REALLY ticked me off with them (in the IT adm position no less). I put up with their marginal quality on the desktop up until this point. Sure, part of me still wished I had gone OS/2 there as well, but I digress. I certainly still remember buying PC's that I had to pay the Windows tax on... even though they still run Linux to this day (except one actually which is one of the Netware servers).
Microsoft may some day conclude that the costs of constant regulatory battles--legal costs, fines, bad publicity, and bad relationships with governments--exceed the benefits of its Windows monopoly.
One can only hope. In the mean time it's still Linux in the data-centers and my basement for that matter. OS.X on my desktop, thank you very much. And yes, they talk NFS and not SMB with each other as well. It's faster... You know what I've learned at the offices that have agreed to run Linux and/or Mac's? Within one year it's obviously cheaper and faster than before. Almost ironical after reading all the Microsoft funded ROI type studies showing the exact oppisite. I thought something smelled fishy.
I just added the "extra.dat" file to the uvscan directory [Linux] (should also work with Virex on the Mac -- not that it really matters there either:). All inbound/outbound type data just happen to come/go from one of the un*x's on the networks I use/run (Windows can only access local Intranet for really only CAD type data:). Anyway, I'm also seeing it called:
# uvscan message.pif./message.pif
Found the W32/Mydoom@MM (ED) virus !!!
Got a problem? (well, as an American in American:)
Ah, just take a pill. That's right. For the low, low [30 installments] payment of $9.95 we can make you happy. Life never crashes. Always blue skies out the windows.
That's AhPill.com For the iTrip of your life: AhPill.com AhPill.com AhPill.com AhPill.com
Ask for the "X" line of course if you need to keep it up.
Um, I thought Bill was going to take care of spam for us?
The _only_ thing I see working that the spam scum will simply never get around is going with whitelisting email address' (much like what Apple's Mail does -- it's not junk if they're in your Address book) -- and authenticating said From: lines with RMX type DNS lookups.
Email!certainly!is!not!what!it!used!to!be
I'd love to bang! a spammer some time -- right up side the head.
I'm definitely not a Microsoft fan (I'm a Unix admin). But give the guy some slack. I think some people take this anti-Microsoft thing too personally.
You're darn tootin' I take this anti-Microsoft thing personally. I"m personally STILL ticked off about buying PC's in the mid-late 90's that I could *NOT* purchase without paying the Windows tax.
Those PC's still run Linux to this day.
And I still want my money back. $6,000 I figure it to be.
Sorry -- never went that route (thankfully:). Still a large Netware base for us. Linux crept in of course and took over. Still happy to do business with Novell and see what they have to offer. Redhat gets some dollars and so does Apple.
In my shop, since, oh 2000 -- I turned into one of those ravage ABM admins. They love to hate me, this I know. Ironically they always thank me once I replace their Windows box with something. Anything.
OOooohh, the next version of Windows is supposed to have some command line interface -- one that I could compile/plug-in bsh, zsh, tcsh, or whatever (but that won't happen, will it?). Microsoft is slowly realizing what the geeks already know -- I can do more on the keyboard _only_ when it comes to moving, migrating, or masaging large chunks of data. Anybody want to see how easy it is to migrate 1,000 users to a new system and bring it up from scratch after a fire? Under a hour with good hardware and Linux... Try doing the same thing in a pure Windows environment. DAYS of outages and services popping up is typical.
Sorry -- that's not normal on all the other platforms, now is it?
The irony of this release is that Microsoft may be making it easier to migrate AWAY from their platforms -- while maintaining some legacy needed systems as needed. Thanks.:)
As I've said many times to my wife before, "see duct tape _can_ fix everything".
Ripped chair floor mat? Duct tape! Broken tail light? Duct tape! Mail box door hanging off? Duct tape! Ripped a whole in that cushion? Duct tape! Wife nagging a bit too much and can't close her mouth? Duct tape! I did try it for a leaky tire, but @ 90mph it kept flying off...
If it's good enough to NASA... then it's good enough for me.
Prices will always drop over time from a products inception -- unless of course you're buying Windows.:) $200 for 64Mb of RAM gave you a bad flashback? I was having the same flashback, but I can remember spending $1,000 US dollars for my first 16M SIMM (with parity of course as it was running some Un*x:).
I've forgotten more than those chips could hold from drinking beer -- and probably spent more doing that too...:)
Yeah, it's old. I think we phased 98 sometime in '99 (coming from WFW 3.11, thank you:). 2003 would have been the fifth year which is at most the depreciable time. I personally like to depreciate software (for business) over 3 years.
Fortunately 98 was replaced with 2K and it too is being phased out thankfully. Of course being phased in is a cross platform layout (for security of course:) -- in comes OS X and Linux.
Good think Netware & Linux still run the datacenters. Whew (!) Funny, but unlike Microsoft software other companies products you still want to run after completely paid for. I'm STILL finding Netware 3.12 servers scattered among clients.:)
Um, my lowly RedHat 2.1 Linux box was doing all this (except video) back in the early 90's.
Web, File & Print? Trivial. Lights / HVAC? X10 MP3 music: SliMP3
(and no, you don't need to buy to use their software -- I just happen to own a couple of them:)
Answering machine I hacked up waaay back when myself (still use it via ISDN inbound:). Today MP4's are flying across the network to a Powerbook for watching movies on any TV wirelessly.
For $15K I'd spend it on a Dual G5 with Dual monitors (why not?:) and every toy out there. Probably have a few $K left over... And no, I did not read the article.
Now -- I did look around the (html version) of the site. Nice little product, though IMHO over priced. I hacked it all up for under $3K (including X10 re-wired outlets as needed). A couple of [radio] all-in-one remotes from The Shack and I can control the lights, TV, and stereo as needed throughout the house. I have a remote for each floor actually, though Radio Shack has since discontinued the model I like -- the new one doesn't work with X10 unit codes 11+ anymore for some reason.
I tried to fill out the survey -- even though I am *STILL* ticked about having to pay for Windows licensing when I bought some PC's... how many years ago now? Funny, but they still run Linux to this day.
I tried to use my @FuckMicrosoft.com email address -- yet the Javascript was complaining about not completely filling out the survey (using Safari:).
It was completely filled out. Microsoft has slowly become, well, a useless company...
With the recent up to 10.1.3 the application load time has gotten even _faster_ (among other things:). Now these updates. It's usually FUN to update the Mac the see what's new.
Throw in the Linux 2.6 kernel and it's going to be a fun Christmas.
Isn't it ironical that at the same time I'm dreading the next Windows update that is always coming down the pike (being the sysadmin over seeing all such systems on the network:).
At least Apple makes this SEEM fun. New in the iTunes application menu -- a link to: HotTips
Well... as I'm not sure if the Apple modem's support mutli-ring service... you could always get a second phone number (typically $5/mo from the telco) which will come in multi-ring. There are devices to route calls based on ring (Radio Shack used to carry one, not sure anymore).
Now -- if you're smart you'll get a new number and make that your base number. Your home phone will be the multi-ring #. The benifit is that the multi-ring number is not listed or published. I did this for years (upon getting a new home number) to instantly do away with telemarketing calls. All sales people and stores get the base/fax/whatever number.
Today -- I still do the same except my base ISDN# is just always busy (unless I am expecting a fax). The second number is for voice. Other benefits include multi-line home number, always send the busy # out on CID and give that number to store clerks or use it for fax as needed -- including the fact that since it is a digital circuit (SBC now) it is automatically non-listed/published as well. Literally no telemarketing calls for years.
I know my parents still do the multi-ring setup with one device as the POP box. Multi-ring calls go out to the house line and straight rings are routed (silently) to the newly run fax line in the den. Telemarketing calls? Also -0-
#1 -- I will not "OPT-OUT". Ever. I have, on occasion, will decide to OPT-IN. Those thinking OPT-OUT are blocked on the first (#1) violation. No questions asked and only a personal phone call, if you know me, will I allow further such traffic.
Just as I refuse/block UNAVAILABLE calls and judiciously decide what profanity of choice to use on PRIVATE callers.
With _any_ OPT-OUT type of choice shortly I'll simply white-list a very few and block everybody else. Email is pretty much dead already anyway. How many hundreds of thousands, if not millions of business' are there in the US alone? For next to nothing they'll all be spamming me -- no thanks.:)
I guess this means I won't be getting funds transfered to my bank account from Africa. Darn.
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Back in my day we didn't have all these fancy wireless type connections. We were happy with the new 2400 baud modem pool and ignored the 1200 baud pool. Inside the campus ISN (predates ISDN) was the communication method preferred (with WIRES).
... we WROTE IT ourselves.
The problems over the years really haven't changed all that much. My ISN port was @ 9600 baud and I wanted the full 38,400 baud available. Hack in.
Fortunately the modem pool tied in via ISN -- need a modem? Reset a few ports and take control. Server on campus too busy? Knock 'em all offline. I can even think of a few locks on doors that didn't slow us down. Oh, and when we needed software
Hack on.
Their called Mac's. Oh, sure, there's some Linux workstations peppered about. Mostly for the zealots, but of course some test beds with the neophite type users.
... AutoCAD (which is the only version of Windows left deployed -- 98se is gone, WFW3.11 is long gone and XP never saw the light of day thank goodness!)
:) and Mac's as available.
:). Go ahead and bring your [Windows] laptop in -- here's a port. Virus infected won't even touch the ISP much less my Linux boxes, Powerbook [wife ;], or the beloved PowerMac. Great for testing before rolling it out anywhere... :)
... you pretty much come up with iLife. [no, i do NOT work for Apple, I just happen to also dig my iPod ;*]
The ONLY thing that Win2K anymore is
Ironically I've been more than happy to supply feedback to AutoDesk with regards to their OS X flavored version in development. Started on the Mac, may end up back there again. YEAH!
Otherwise -- we're seriously exploring all alternatives for 3D CAD residential and commercial building, surveying, and landscaping type design which is where the majority of my clients needs fall. Some mechanical which were are the first to want to play with the Linux (old Windows boxes
Heck, the network have been segmented, physically and logically at the switches in the computer rooms. "Windows" and "Everybody else". When traffic goes nuts (somebody brought a virus riddled laptop in and hit the network somewhere) -- the switches will auto-shutdown the Windows segments. I've even happily supplied network jacks at open desks, lunch room, break rooms, warehouse, etc -- they all go to a secondary (yet sub-segmented) switch bank.
ISP complaints when it _does_ happen inside? -0- the problem can take care of itself. On a lower level I've done the same thing at home with a little help from, what is it this year?, iptables (I was still thinking chains and miss just fw
Word Processing, Spreadsheets, pick a graphic format, pick a video format, pick a sound format -- put it all together and mix it up a bit
Bah, Microsoft.
This is exactly what REALLY ticked me off with them (in the IT adm position no less). I put up with their marginal quality on the desktop up until this point. Sure, part of me still wished I had gone OS/2 there as well, but I digress. I certainly still remember buying PC's that I had to pay the Windows tax on ... even though they still run Linux to this day (except one actually which is one of the Netware servers).
Microsoft may some day conclude that the costs of constant regulatory battles--legal costs, fines, bad publicity, and bad relationships with governments--exceed the benefits of its Windows monopoly.
One can only hope. In the mean time it's still Linux in the data-centers and my basement for that matter. OS.X on my desktop, thank you very much. And yes, they talk NFS and not SMB with each other as well. It's faster... You know what I've learned at the offices that have agreed to run Linux and/or Mac's? Within one year it's obviously cheaper and faster than before. Almost ironical after reading all the Microsoft funded ROI type studies showing the exact oppisite. I thought something smelled fishy.
Here's my test page: SCO
:)
I tend to just hold the CMD key and see how long I see "Loading..." with a spinning circle. At the moment it is simply coming back as "Error".
I just added the "extra.dat" file to the uvscan directory [Linux] (should also work with Virex on the Mac -- not that it really matters there either :). All inbound/outbound type data just happen to come/go from one of the un*x's on the networks I use/run (Windows can only access local Intranet for really only CAD type data :). Anyway, I'm also seeing it called:
./message.pif
# uvscan message.pif
Found the W32/Mydoom@MM (ED) virus !!!
# cat extra.dat
86 178 157 177 77 51 218 128 63 28 192 202 105 92 226 222
77 126 192 48 15 15 141 153 142 49 129 178 39 43 14 177
103 51 40 188 102 160 101 197 32 234 88 126 129 249 116 176
65 12 233 199 242 50 249 168 223 54 141 82 32 204 178 190
143 54 141 179 13 50 141 167 192 49 138 179 67 160 138 178
77 51 141 179 109 141 138
6567 256 12367 334 W32/Mydoom@MM
Got a problem? (well, as an American in American :)
Ah, just take a pill. That's right. For the low, low [30 installments] payment of $9.95 we can make you happy. Life never crashes. Always blue skies out the windows.
That's AhPill.com
For the iTrip of your life: AhPill.com
AhPill.com AhPill.com AhPill.com
Ask for the "X" line of course if you need to keep it up.
Um, I thought Bill was going to take care of spam for us?
The _only_ thing I see working that the spam scum will simply never get around is going with whitelisting email address' (much like what Apple's Mail does -- it's not junk if they're in your Address book) -- and authenticating said From: lines with RMX type DNS lookups.
Email!certainly!is!not!what!it!used!to!be
I'd love to bang! a spammer some time -- right up side the head.
I'm definitely not a Microsoft fan (I'm a Unix admin). But give the guy some slack. I think some people take this anti-Microsoft thing too personally.
You're darn tootin' I take this anti-Microsoft thing personally. I"m personally STILL ticked off about buying PC's in the mid-late 90's that I could *NOT* purchase without paying the Windows tax.
Those PC's still run Linux to this day.
And I still want my money back. $6,000 I figure it to be.
We had a similar experience around that time. I, on the other hand, came up with the "Managed Information Access [Secured] System".
Ever since then I've been pulling things out of MI-ASS.
People seem to love it...
To moderate or not, that was a tough one. :)
... ALL DAY. :)
There is now a very good chance my next server purchase will just be that X-Serve with the G5. Um, yeah, I'll be in the computer room
Sorry -- never went that route (thankfully :). Still a large Netware base for us. Linux crept in of course and took over. Still happy to do business with Novell and see what they have to offer. Redhat gets some dollars and so does Apple.
:)
In my shop, since, oh 2000 -- I turned into one of those ravage ABM admins. They love to hate me, this I know. Ironically they always thank me once I replace their Windows box with something. Anything.
OOooohh, the next version of Windows is supposed to have some command line interface -- one that I could compile/plug-in bsh, zsh, tcsh, or whatever (but that won't happen, will it?). Microsoft is slowly realizing what the geeks already know -- I can do more on the keyboard _only_ when it comes to moving, migrating, or masaging large chunks of data. Anybody want to see how easy it is to migrate 1,000 users to a new system and bring it up from scratch after a fire? Under a hour with good hardware and Linux... Try doing the same thing in a pure Windows environment. DAYS of outages and services popping up is typical.
Sorry -- that's not normal on all the other platforms, now is it?
The irony of this release is that Microsoft may be making it easier to migrate AWAY from their platforms -- while maintaining some legacy needed systems as needed. Thanks.
From the article:
"Most customers don't care about the format they're downloading."
I think he meant to say:
"Most customers don't care about the wma format, they're not worth downloading."
Silly HP.
As I've said many times to my wife before, "see duct tape _can_ fix everything".
... then it's good enough for me.
Ripped chair floor mat? Duct tape!
Broken tail light? Duct tape!
Mail box door hanging off? Duct tape!
Ripped a whole in that cushion? Duct tape!
Wife nagging a bit too much and can't close her mouth? Duct tape!
I did try it for a leaky tire, but @ 90mph it kept flying off...
If it's good enough to NASA
Prices will always drop over time from a products inception -- unless of course you're buying Windows. :) $200 for 64Mb of RAM gave you a bad flashback? I was having the same flashback, but I can remember spending $1,000 US dollars for my first 16M SIMM (with parity of course as it was running some Un*x :).
:)
I've forgotten more than those chips could hold from drinking beer -- and probably spent more doing that too...
Yeah, it's old. I think we phased 98 sometime in '99 (coming from WFW 3.11, thank you :). 2003 would have been the fifth year which is at most the depreciable time. I personally like to depreciate software (for business) over 3 years.
:) -- in comes OS X and Linux.
:)
Fortunately 98 was replaced with 2K and it too is being phased out thankfully. Of course being phased in is a cross platform layout (for security of course
Good think Netware & Linux still run the datacenters. Whew (!) Funny, but unlike Microsoft software other companies products you still want to run after completely paid for. I'm STILL finding Netware 3.12 servers scattered among clients.
Um, my lowly RedHat 2.1 Linux box was doing all this (except video) back in the early 90's.
:)
:). Today MP4's are flying across the network to a Powerbook for watching movies on any TV wirelessly.
:) and every toy out there. Probably have a few $K left over... And no, I did not read the article.
Web, File & Print? Trivial.
Lights / HVAC? X10
MP3 music: SliMP3
(and no, you don't need to buy to use their software -- I just happen to own a couple of them
Answering machine I hacked up waaay back when myself (still use it via ISDN inbound
For $15K I'd spend it on a Dual G5 with Dual monitors (why not?
Now -- I did look around the (html version) of the site. Nice little product, though IMHO over priced. I hacked it all up for under $3K (including X10 re-wired outlets as needed). A couple of [radio] all-in-one remotes from The Shack and I can control the lights, TV, and stereo as needed throughout the house. I have a remote for each floor actually, though Radio Shack has since discontinued the model I like -- the new one doesn't work with X10 unit codes 11+ anymore for some reason.
Not one mention of the SliMP3 player. Almost a shame. (it's my favorite toy add-on with iTunes :)
I tried to fill out the survey -- even though I am *STILL* ticked about having to pay for Windows licensing when I bought some PC's ... how many years ago now? Funny, but they still run Linux to this day.
:).
I tried to use my @FuckMicrosoft.com email address -- yet the Javascript was complaining about not completely filling out the survey (using Safari
It was completely filled out. Microsoft has slowly become, well, a useless company...
With the recent up to 10.1.3 the application load time has gotten even _faster_ (among other things :). Now these updates. It's usually FUN to update the Mac the see what's new.
:).
Throw in the Linux 2.6 kernel and it's going to be a fun Christmas.
Isn't it ironical that at the same time I'm dreading the next Windows update that is always coming down the pike (being the sysadmin over seeing all such systems on the network
At least Apple makes this SEEM fun. New in the iTunes application menu -- a link to:
HotTips
All those operating systems and no mention of the one I _still_ like to play with...
What about the Commodore 64? If you're going to count running OS' through VPC then you might as well go get the C=64 emulator. Heck, why not Apple ][?
Easy:
ncftpget ftp://ftp.sco.com:/pub/scox/scoxdevcd.iso
Um, "simoniker" -- you should have posted when they had suffered ... not while they're still suffering. Of course with a link back to SCO.
Well ... as I'm not sure if the Apple modem's support mutli-ring service ... you could always get a second phone number (typically $5/mo from the telco) which will come in multi-ring. There are devices to route calls based on ring (Radio Shack used to carry one, not sure anymore).
Now -- if you're smart you'll get a new number and make that your base number. Your home phone will be the multi-ring #. The benifit is that the multi-ring number is not listed or published. I did this for years (upon getting a new home number) to instantly do away with telemarketing calls. All sales people and stores get the base/fax/whatever number.
Today -- I still do the same except my base ISDN# is just always busy (unless I am expecting a fax). The second number is for voice. Other benefits include multi-line home number, always send the busy # out on CID and give that number to store clerks or use it for fax as needed -- including the fact that since it is a digital circuit (SBC now) it is automatically non-listed/published as well. Literally no telemarketing calls for years.
I know my parents still do the multi-ring setup with one device as the POP box. Multi-ring calls go out to the house line and straight rings are routed (silently) to the newly run fax line in the den. Telemarketing calls? Also -0-
God bless and welcome to ... America.
Ok then. PRIMARY / SECONDARY.
Are they happy now? See we can always figure out a way to afro-american engineer something.
#1 -- I will not "OPT-OUT". Ever. I have, on occasion, will decide to OPT-IN. Those thinking OPT-OUT are blocked on the first (#1) violation. No questions asked and only a personal phone call, if you know me, will I allow further such traffic.
:)
Just as I refuse/block UNAVAILABLE calls and judiciously decide what profanity of choice to use on PRIVATE callers.
With _any_ OPT-OUT type of choice shortly I'll simply white-list a very few and block everybody else. Email is pretty much dead already anyway. How many hundreds of thousands, if not millions of business' are there in the US alone? For next to nothing they'll all be spamming me -- no thanks.
I guess this means I won't be getting funds transfered to my bank account from Africa. Darn.