I remember reading about this when I was a kid - early seventies I guess - in the UK, in the I Spy book of Space Exploration (or something like that.) Interestingly, there is a replica of one of the rovers in the Powerhouse museum in Sydney, Australia - along with an Apollo rocket engine nozzle! I couldn't find any pictures of the rover, but here's a link to the space exhibition.
Didn't Hiro Protagonist make this same mistake in Snowcrash (ie. I assumed that Crypto Gnome was in on the joke and was amused by the witty reply). Or is Crypto Gnome A Con ?(bad pun)
Its to do with mass and not physical size. The object doesn't have to be big at all - a black hole is a singularity and effectively has no size. Okay, so its event horizon does (this is to do with the distance from the black hole that the escape velocity - how fast you need to move to escape the gravitational pull - exceeds the speed of light).
A small dense body could have more gravitational pull than a larger, less dense one. Comets are not very dense or large, so have a small gravitational pull.
If a robot can be designed to fly to Mars, crawl around and do science, wouldn't it be a good idea to design things like Hubble so that a robot mission could service them? Obviously I don't know the details, but there must be modules or something similar that the astronauts replace, the work can't be that fine if you can do it in space suit gloves - and its not that far to Hubble, so you don't even have problems with light-speed communications lags for when the robot runs into something unexpected.
Maybe the replaced parts could be returned to Earth for servicing, akin to a proposed sample-return mission to Mars. Surely all this would be cheaper than shuttle missions for servicing!
By the way, I'm not one of those people who believe that space missions should all be done by robot, I think that there's definitely a place for people and machines out there.
Didn't this happen in the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, when the drinks machine couldn't figure out why Arthur Dent wanted a cup of dried leaves, boiled (tea) and enlisted the help of Eddie the Shipboard computer. (If I remember rightly, this nearly resulted in the destruction of the Heart of Gold.)
Don't forget that there is still the Mars Express orbiter, which is shortly to finalise its orbit and begin its mission. So even though the Beagle2 is currently missing in action, Europe still has a science probe in Mars orbit.
Apologies, I'll do a search next time i submit a story.
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Maybe next time you want to throw out a book, you should try this? I know you didn't enjoy the book, but others might and it strikes me as an unusual social experiment. No, I haven't done it, but I heard about it on the radio and provided you don't get fined for littering it sounds like a good idea!
Didn't the same thing happen a long time ago* to the textile industry in the UK? Anyone here know enough about it to proffer comments/ solutions/ tales of doom? Hasn't this happened to multiple industries over the years?
I thought Harrison Ford did the Solo act:-)
On the other post about Man in the High Castle, yes its a great book, but I don't know that it would be a great film. Some things are better left in their original medium.
Of course, the ESA has the immense advantage over NASA that everyone uses SI units, rather than a mixture of metric and imperial;-)
Still, its a long way down for Beagle 2 - hope it succeeds.
I live in Australia but come from the UK, so for Christmas I thought I'd buy my parents (back in England) a DVD. But Australia is in region 4, the UK is in region 2 and my parents don't have a multi-region player. The result was that I bought something else instead - I'm sure this happens a lot and can't quite understand how it improves movie studio revenues!
I actually find it annoying when watching a news programme - you often hear mouse/ keyboard clicks while the anchor is off screen during an interview with a slide or something. I would have thought broadcasters would have come up with something, with the 'artistic temperaments' of some of their talking heads:-)
Isn't it a bit late to manufacture it in a clean room by now? I thought it was
pretty near Mars.
Also, how do you sterilise something for space, when you look at the conditions in Jupiter space (radiation etc.) they sound more hostile than anything you could easily subject things to on Earth. I guess the interior spaces of the probe could be a problem?
Do you need to hide where it sends info. Couldn't you just get some software to send the info to, say, all hotmail addresses and then pick it up at your leisure? Sort of a reverse spam thing...
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I remember reading about this when I was a kid - early seventies I guess - in the UK, in the I Spy book of Space Exploration (or something like that.) Interestingly, there is a replica of one of the rovers in the Powerhouse museum in Sydney, Australia - along with an Apollo rocket engine nozzle! I couldn't find any pictures of the rover, but here's a link to the space exhibition.
Its a while since I read it, so I may be wrong.
I vote we call it YT!
A small dense body could have more gravitational pull than a larger, less dense one. Comets are not very dense or large, so have a small gravitational pull.
Maybe the replaced parts could be returned to Earth for servicing, akin to a proposed sample-return mission to Mars. Surely all this would be cheaper than shuttle missions for servicing!
By the way, I'm not one of those people who believe that space missions should all be done by robot, I think that there's definitely a place for people and machines out there.
Didn't this happen in the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, when the drinks machine couldn't figure out why Arthur Dent wanted a cup of dried leaves, boiled (tea) and enlisted the help of Eddie the Shipboard computer. (If I remember rightly, this nearly resulted in the destruction of the Heart of Gold.)
Start walking instead of driving.
Don't forget that there is still the Mars Express orbiter, which is shortly to finalise its orbit and begin its mission. So even though the Beagle2 is currently missing in action, Europe still has a science probe in Mars orbit.
Apologies, I'll do a search next time i submit a story.
Maybe next time you want to throw out a book, you should try this? I know you didn't enjoy the book, but others might and it strikes me as an unusual social experiment. No, I haven't done it, but I heard about it on the radio and provided you don't get fined for littering it sounds like a good idea!
Someone's overclocking the Matrix!
(* Too lazy to look up which century it was !)
I thought Harrison Ford did the Solo act :-)
On the other post about Man in the High Castle, yes its a great book, but I don't know that it would be a great film. Some things are better left in their original medium.
Of course, the ESA has the immense advantage over NASA that everyone uses SI units, rather than a mixture of metric and imperial ;-)
Still, its a long way down for Beagle 2 - hope it succeeds.
Damnit, now I'm duplicating articles on /.
I live in Australia but come from the UK, so for Christmas I thought I'd buy my parents (back in England) a DVD. But Australia is in region 4, the UK is in region 2 and my parents don't have a multi-region player. The result was that I bought something else instead - I'm sure this happens a lot and can't quite understand how it improves movie studio revenues!
I actually find it annoying when watching a news programme - you often hear mouse/ keyboard clicks while the anchor is off screen during an interview with a slide or something. I would have thought broadcasters would have come up with something, with the 'artistic temperaments' of some of their talking heads :-)
Also, how do you sterilise something for space, when you look at the conditions in Jupiter space (radiation etc.) they sound more hostile than anything you could easily subject things to on Earth. I guess the interior spaces of the probe could be a problem?
They're re-ordering their priorities, and we have to call then the Bureau of Recording, Tobacco, Fireams and Alcohol - or RTFA.
Is that you, Gentoo D2?
How do they advertise Tivos?
What, no @microsoft.com ? Oh, right...
How can you have an original idea that you've borrowed?
... and I was going to suggest that they Beret the hatchet ...!
Do you need to hide where it sends info. Couldn't you just get some software to send the info to, say, all hotmail addresses and then pick it up at your leisure? Sort of a reverse spam thing ...