Looks like your wrong on that one buddy, America didn't get to be the greatest country in the world by accident it's taken thousands of years of American hard work, sweat and tears and sheer graft and that is the legacy our ancestors have left to us.
Look at all those other places you mentioned where people scrabble in the dirt for their food and where there'll as thick as shit. The reason they are that way is evolution, they're ancestors didn't put in the hard work. No, no doubt because in many of these hell holes it's nice and hot they just sat round on their fat assess and sunbathed whilst your ancestors, and mine, were putting the work in. Evolution says those people should die off and it's up to us to leave them to it or help them along the road as opportunity dictates.
So yeah, I am hard working and industrious because my ancestors made me that way and if others aren't then it's their ancestors they should be looking to blame rather than me.
I think you'll find it's the suede/denim secret police you need to fear and it's not your daughter they'll be after, it's your niece.
Seriously though, I'll happily wait until the point the UK actually creates a secret police force which engages in that kind of underhand activity because I suspect I'll have a long and comfortable wait.
The only real threat to my comfort are the hordes of people crying wolf at spectres of their own imagination. By the time the secret police are in full force and ready to get out their on the street and repress some butt any sort of movement against them will have already been thoroughly discredited through association with nutcases such as our 'animal rights' friends and quite possibly yourself.
You don't tend to demolish the building in which a murder was planned
A man was recently beaten to death on the High Street near where I live, the attack happened a Friday night and whilst the police conducted their enquiries the entire High Street was closed all day Saturday and most of Sunday. This is usually an extremely busy shopping area which has recently been quite badly affected by the recession so closing the high street and all the shops on it had a massive impact on a lot of businesses and an awful lot of people.
I have no problem with that if it helps to catch the murderers and similarly if confiscating this server helps to catch the people involved in intimidation and harrassment then I have no problem with that either.
As I have mentioned further down this thread the police aren't in the habit of seizing the servers of anyone posting private information or 'anti government or corporation' viewpoints so when they do they obviously consider doing so will help them with a specific enquiry. In general their actions are proportionate and considered and not an automatic attack on general civil liberties.
I agree to an extent but you have to consider the difference between posting personal details to slashdot and to indymedia and the motivations for doing so. Most/.'ers are not rabid foaming at the mouth loonies and they don't have a history of relentlessly hounding people who disagree with them. I expect most readers of Indymedia are equally law abiding but there is obviously a small group of people who may have read those personal details and used them to engage in a criminal campaign of intimidation.
The fact that the police aren't in the habit of seizing./ servers whenever someones details are posted but have seized this one seems to me to show they responding thoughtfully and responsibly and not engaging in some random campaign to shut down sites based on some sort of political motivation.
Everything you've said is totally beside the point. A judge not wanting his personal details published has nothing to do with his pride and everything to do with not wanting to open himself up to the kind of abuse these groups have routinely subjected people who they disagree with to. Secondly the police had a warrant to seize this server which is totally within the law and absolutely not theft of any kind.
I have no problem with the police taken the action they have, far from using their powers to "repress" anyone they are taking appropriate action to prevent groups like SHAC from harassing people, blackmailing them and generally making their lives a misery.
In the article linked to in the header they are 'concerned' that the police have been instructed by their political masters to clamp down on anyone daring to threaten 'the corporations'. The author has obviously totally missed the point that primarily the activism isn't targetted at 'corporations' but at individuals who happen to work at them. It's usually not the 'corporation' which is branded as a paedophile in a leaflet campaign in it's neighbourhood, it's not the 'corporation' who has masked terrorists driving around his house at night shouting abuse and making threats and it's not corporations whose dead relatives are dug up and then held for ransom. Usually it's a delivery driver, admin assistant anyone who is unlucky enough to be targetted by these groups.
I personally would not want to be relentlessly attacked in this matter because some random group of nutters took exception to something the company I worked for is involved in and I welcome any attempts by the government or the police to stand up and do something about it.
If people are participating in this without actually being a signed up member of Israels armed forces or wearing a uniform doesn't this make them illegal combatants and shouldn't whichever country they live in immediately arrest them and send them of to their equivalent of Guantanamo Bay ?
I remember once, long long ago when I was still a teenager some friends and myself had spent the evening drinking in a bar and were walking home past our school when we happened to notice a lot of desks and chairs the school were waiting to have taken off to the dump. We decided it would be more fun to take them to the park next to the school, make a huge pile out of them and set them on fire. Later on whilst admiring our huge blaze we thought it would be fun to dance around the fire like we imagined that red indians might do. During the course of these festivities we noticed a couple of people standing on the road watching us, 10 minutes later it turned out they were the police and wanted to know what we were doing. When we explained we were just having a small fire ( as it blazed away behind us towering over our heads ) they said, "OK, no problem. Someone reported you were burning the school down but so long as you're not doing that carry on. You're not burning anything from the school are you ?". Looking at the remains of desks and chairs burning behind us we said we weren't and they told us to have a good night and not to do anything stupid and left us to it.
In the UK we are also subject to adverts featuring "Knock Off Nigel" who lives in some sort of alternative world where his co-workers dress in ridiculous clothes, appear to spend their time gadding about the office like big gay workshy drama queens singing, and "ridicule" Nigel for offering them copies of movies.
Obviously back in the real world anyone behaving like Nigels would be detractors would be laughed out of the office down to the bike sheds where they'd be given a damn good thrashing.
And thats the really weird bit, drugs appear to be sold in the US in the metric system and, from my obviously extremely limited and second hand knowledge of the subject are often sold in the UK in the imperial system, even though we are supposed to be metric here.
I think the selling of drugs is one area which is more suited to the imperial system purely because splitting them up is a lot easier in imperial.
It's actually a really irritating system we have here in the UK, in school during the 80's we were taught soley in the metric system so I still have no instinctive understanding of what a farenheight, a gallon, a league or a fathom actually are and yet some of these measurements are still pretty much in general use as are pounds, ounces & stones.
In my car I can view my petrol consumption in miles to the gallon or litres to the kilometer but the fuel which goes into the fuel tank is measured in litres and the odometer shows only miles so there is no way to make a simple comparison without having to work out between the two sets of measurements.
I wish the UK would make up it's mind one way or another properly and then stick to it !
I think perhaps you need to study a bit more history, especially if you think the middle ages is in any way marked by any sort of prudishness about nakedness or sex.
Not only slavery and capital punishment for most crimes but also paedophilia was rampant as was casual murder, rapings, slaughterings, sackings, bestiality, whippings, beatings, maulings and worse.
Those ancient people have a long way to go before they are as advanced a society as us today ( around 2000 years to go )
The only people who commonly say that "Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit" are typically those who are too stupid to appreciate the irony of any given situation or those who have such a narrow and specific world view they are unable to appreciate anything which falls outside of it.
Most normal people realise there isn't actually a universal scale of wit and particular types of wit aren't restricted to a particular band on this nonexistant scale because the nonexistant scale doesn't exist.
A lot of normal people have problems understanding others' intentions; I know I sometimes do.
Me too, or at least I used to before I realised I could understand exactly what their intentions were, the confusing part was why they are always lying about them.
It could also be that when weather conditions or problems with their equipment, themselves or their fellow climbers turn hazardous and become the sort of conditions which can easily kill you most people may well have decided to turn around and begin their descent. Thus most people would be descending during the periods when they're most likely to die.
C'mon now, thats not really the most sensible idea now is it. Things are tough enough as it is with Global Warming and mutant GM foods destroying the planet without you trying to engineer a supermassive nuclear explosion in the Earths crust just to try and create another moon. I suggest that you, like most scientists should concentrate on improving the welfare of cute animals and solving world hunger rather then designing these sorts of dangerous and irresponsible experiments.
No it isn't. The only acceptable expression is a stern set mouth and chin and a far away, yet piercing, gaze of stoic optimism expressing the knowledge that you aware the conditions imposed by outside influences which make your life a misery may yet last some time before the party can fully lead both you and the state into the promised land.
Actually there is another set of rules altogether for other national identity documents but these are kept solely for the use of the party ( and mainly Jackie Smith ) to inspire them to keep up the good work. In these photographs the subject is kneeling on the floor in a puddle of his own urine and blood with his hand raised above his head attempting to ward off the blows whilst desperately trying to grovel and crawl to the feet of Jackie Smith for pardon whilst being beaten with the truncheons of her minders.
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If you read a lot of the posts espousing libertarianism here on /. it's quite easy to see why it has become a perjorative word.
I'm sure you don't need to be a foaming at the mouth madman to subscribe to it but from the evidence I've seen on here it certainly seems to help !
If you buy a card with a credit card then the dealership gets all it's money for the car right away so everything you have said is totally irrelevant.
Looks like your wrong on that one buddy, America didn't get to be the greatest country in the world by accident it's taken thousands of years of American hard work, sweat and tears and sheer graft and that is the legacy our ancestors have left to us.
Look at all those other places you mentioned where people scrabble in the dirt for their food and where there'll as thick as shit. The reason they are that way is evolution, they're ancestors didn't put in the hard work. No, no doubt because in many of these hell holes it's nice and hot they just sat round on their fat assess and sunbathed whilst your ancestors, and mine, were putting the work in. Evolution says those people should die off and it's up to us to leave them to it or help them along the road as opportunity dictates.
So yeah, I am hard working and industrious because my ancestors made me that way and if others aren't then it's their ancestors they should be looking to blame rather than me.
I think you'll find it's the suede/denim secret police you need to fear and it's not your daughter they'll be after, it's your niece.
Seriously though, I'll happily wait until the point the UK actually creates a secret police force which engages in that kind of underhand activity because I suspect I'll have a long and comfortable wait.
The only real threat to my comfort are the hordes of people crying wolf at spectres of their own imagination. By the time the secret police are in full force and ready to get out their on the street and repress some butt any sort of movement against them will have already been thoroughly discredited through association with nutcases such as our 'animal rights' friends and quite possibly yourself.
A man was recently beaten to death on the High Street near where I live, the attack happened a Friday night and whilst the police conducted their enquiries the entire High Street was closed all day Saturday and most of Sunday. This is usually an extremely busy shopping area which has recently been quite badly affected by the recession so closing the high street and all the shops on it had a massive impact on a lot of businesses and an awful lot of people.
I have no problem with that if it helps to catch the murderers and similarly if confiscating this server helps to catch the people involved in intimidation and harrassment then I have no problem with that either.
As I have mentioned further down this thread the police aren't in the habit of seizing the servers of anyone posting private information or 'anti government or corporation' viewpoints so when they do they obviously consider doing so will help them with a specific enquiry. In general their actions are proportionate and considered and not an automatic attack on general civil liberties.
I agree to an extent but you have to consider the difference between posting personal details to slashdot and to indymedia and the motivations for doing so. Most /.'ers are not rabid foaming at the mouth loonies and they don't have a history of relentlessly hounding people who disagree with them. I expect most readers of Indymedia are equally law abiding but there is obviously a small group of people who may have read those personal details and used them to engage in a criminal campaign of intimidation.
The fact that the police aren't in the habit of seizing ./ servers whenever someones details are posted but have seized this one seems to me to show they responding thoughtfully and responsibly and not engaging in some random campaign to shut down sites based on some sort of political motivation.
Everything you've said is totally beside the point. A judge not wanting his personal details published has nothing to do with his pride and everything to do with not wanting to open himself up to the kind of abuse these groups have routinely subjected people who they disagree with to. Secondly the police had a warrant to seize this server which is totally within the law and absolutely not theft of any kind.
I have no problem with the police taken the action they have, far from using their powers to "repress" anyone they are taking appropriate action to prevent groups like SHAC from harassing people, blackmailing them and generally making their lives a misery.
In the article linked to in the header they are 'concerned' that the police have been instructed by their political masters to clamp down on anyone daring to threaten 'the corporations'. The author has obviously totally missed the point that primarily the activism isn't targetted at 'corporations' but at individuals who happen to work at them. It's usually not the 'corporation' which is branded as a paedophile in a leaflet campaign in it's neighbourhood, it's not the 'corporation' who has masked terrorists driving around his house at night shouting abuse and making threats and it's not corporations whose dead relatives are dug up and then held for ransom. Usually it's a delivery driver, admin assistant anyone who is unlucky enough to be targetted by these groups.
I personally would not want to be relentlessly attacked in this matter because some random group of nutters took exception to something the company I worked for is involved in and I welcome any attempts by the government or the police to stand up and do something about it.
If you can only earn $250 a week what sort of moronic decision is to get a $1500 mortgage ?
If people are participating in this without actually being a signed up member of Israels armed forces or wearing a uniform doesn't this make them illegal combatants and shouldn't whichever country they live in immediately arrest them and send them of to their equivalent of Guantanamo Bay ?
Yep, most cops are reasonable people.
I remember once, long long ago when I was still a teenager some friends and myself had spent the evening drinking in a bar and were walking home past our school when we happened to notice a lot of desks and chairs the school were waiting to have taken off to the dump. We decided it would be more fun to take them to the park next to the school, make a huge pile out of them and set them on fire. Later on whilst admiring our huge blaze we thought it would be fun to dance around the fire like we imagined that red indians might do. During the course of these festivities we noticed a couple of people standing on the road watching us, 10 minutes later it turned out they were the police and wanted to know what we were doing. When we explained we were just having a small fire ( as it blazed away behind us towering over our heads ) they said, "OK, no problem. Someone reported you were burning the school down but so long as you're not doing that carry on. You're not burning anything from the school are you ?". Looking at the remains of desks and chairs burning behind us we said we weren't and they told us to have a good night and not to do anything stupid and left us to it.
In the UK we are also subject to adverts featuring "Knock Off Nigel" who lives in some sort of alternative world where his co-workers dress in ridiculous clothes, appear to spend their time gadding about the office like big gay workshy drama queens singing, and "ridicule" Nigel for offering them copies of movies.
Obviously back in the real world anyone behaving like Nigels would be detractors would be laughed out of the office down to the bike sheds where they'd be given a damn good thrashing.
And thats the really weird bit, drugs appear to be sold in the US in the metric system and, from my obviously extremely limited and second hand knowledge of the subject are often sold in the UK in the imperial system, even though we are supposed to be metric here.
I think the selling of drugs is one area which is more suited to the imperial system purely because splitting them up is a lot easier in imperial.
There are usually a lot of a Americans waddling about Scotland but didn't realise they were all there just to fund this research.
It's actually a really irritating system we have here in the UK, in school during the 80's we were taught soley in the metric system so I still have no instinctive understanding of what a farenheight, a gallon, a league or a fathom actually are and yet some of these measurements are still pretty much in general use as are pounds, ounces & stones.
In my car I can view my petrol consumption in miles to the gallon or litres to the kilometer but the fuel which goes into the fuel tank is measured in litres and the odometer shows only miles so there is no way to make a simple comparison without having to work out between the two sets of measurements.
I wish the UK would make up it's mind one way or another properly and then stick to it !
I think perhaps you need to study a bit more history, especially if you think the middle ages is in any way marked by any sort of prudishness about nakedness or sex.
Not only slavery and capital punishment for most crimes but also paedophilia was rampant as was casual murder, rapings, slaughterings, sackings, bestiality, whippings, beatings, maulings and worse.
Those ancient people have a long way to go before they are as advanced a society as us today ( around 2000 years to go )
In COD4 you actually get points for knifing enemies who are crawling along the floor wounded.
Well, where did you have them last ?
The only people who commonly say that "Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit" are typically those who are too stupid to appreciate the irony of any given situation or those who have such a narrow and specific world view they are unable to appreciate anything which falls outside of it.
Most normal people realise there isn't actually a universal scale of wit and particular types of wit aren't restricted to a particular band on this nonexistant scale because the nonexistant scale doesn't exist.
Me too, or at least I used to before I realised I could understand exactly what their intentions were, the confusing part was why they are always lying about them.
It could also be that when weather conditions or problems with their equipment, themselves or their fellow climbers turn hazardous and become the sort of conditions which can easily kill you most people may well have decided to turn around and begin their descent. Thus most people would be descending during the periods when they're most likely to die.
C'mon now, thats not really the most sensible idea now is it. Things are tough enough as it is with Global Warming and mutant GM foods destroying the planet without you trying to engineer a supermassive nuclear explosion in the Earths crust just to try and create another moon. I suggest that you, like most scientists should concentrate on improving the welfare of cute animals and solving world hunger rather then designing these sorts of dangerous and irresponsible experiments.
No it isn't. The only acceptable expression is a stern set mouth and chin and a far away, yet piercing, gaze of stoic optimism expressing the knowledge that you aware the conditions imposed by outside influences which make your life a misery may yet last some time before the party can fully lead both you and the state into the promised land.
Actually there is another set of rules altogether for other national identity documents but these are kept solely for the use of the party ( and mainly Jackie Smith ) to inspire them to keep up the good work. In these photographs the subject is kneeling on the floor in a puddle of his own urine and blood with his hand raised above his head attempting to ward off the blows whilst desperately trying to grovel and crawl to the feet of Jackie Smith for pardon whilst being beaten with the truncheons of her minders.