It's a much more fundamental difference, and it -is- important to folks other than lawyers and zealots (neither being something that I am).
I am, however, a strong believer of facts. Facts is facts, and facts are that BSD != Linux. Ever.
My intention is not to bash the original poster (that's rude), not to educate (because most of you know this already), not to troll (unlike most of my other posts). It's simply to remind everyone here to research before you hit that post button.
The lower the noise and the stronger the signal, the less time we have to spend reading and writing inane posts such as mine.
Back to the topic at hand, I run the ship for a -very- small financial institution, no more than 20 seats. I've happily migrated them all to OS X, and a nice XServe/XRaid machine in the back room replaced 2 rickety linux boxen.
Apple must've done their job. As a linux user who can remember installing from floppy (and disk 16 of 17 of X Window failing forcing me to start over...and being a diehard and somewhat zealous individual), I've switched.
10 years ago, I'd have called you crazy for even suggesting it.
But that's just me and I'm dumb.
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If you'd have rtfa, you'd know what the config is.
I have to watch it when auditing code or making minor changes when the powers-that-be are looking over my shoulder...more than once I've embarassed myself with working on code clearly commented with things like:
"That dumbass So-and-so doesn't know what the fuck he wants so I put this in to shut him the fuck up".
And this daemon character seems cute from somebody's point of view, but somebody may think which does not suit for the professional products to indicate that are using the FreeBSD inside.
So, we decide to call for a new logo design which is identifiable as the Project's logo, can be used on the professional products, and is very cool:-)
Okay, am I the only one who thinks this is totally ridiculous? FreeBSD churns away quietly and quickly in backoffices everywhere...since when did we start to care about "powered by" stickers and logos? What we care about is the fact that we install these boxen, turn out the lights and walk away.
Yes, I know I'm ignoring the marketing hype and all that happy crap, but c'mon, it's kind of a stretch to think that a pretty little logo is going to change any PHB's opinion on an "already dead" o/s any ways:-) They're already far too enamoured by that stupid penguin, anyways.
I'm sure the terms of use of AOL's corporate networks indicate that all information contained on their computer systems are property of AOL.
This, then, would mean that whether he had an electronic file, had written down each address, a hardcopy listing, whatever...it was property of AOL. He stole that information.
Not only are 'average' users quick to jump on a bandwagon, the slashdot/oss crew (i.e. me!!)tends to be even more evangelical about such matters.
You're absolutely correct in that it's just a different (albeit better) implementation of a model which, as we all know, will theoretically -never- be perfect.
We work our asses off creating software that, to the best of our knowledge, is bug-free..but, c'mon...there is no such beast.
Bug-Free software is just software for which a bug has not yet been found...whether the bug lies in the OS, libraries, the code itself,...
It's time for all software engineers to dismiss the utopian vision of this bug-free world, and look a bit beneath the surface...
I'm just gonna keep rockin and rollin makin better films...Er, Um...I mean code!!
As far as standards and compatibility is concerned, who knows??? I know that my powerbook only accepts DVD-R media, my Pioneer standalone player in my home theatre rack plays both + and -.
So, regardless of the standards, I can use my sub-100 dvd[+-]R burner in my pc to do what works for me, regardless of what "standards" are going to be victorious.
Dual layer media is too expensive at this time to consider it for everyday use, imo.
So, there, I answered pretty much none of your questions:)
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Might help a little bit. As I saw so eloquently stated somewhere...
This would not stop skilled bad guys, but would slow down those kiddies playing around.
Should this perhaps be the default? Maybe. But the bottom line is, you don't have the right to put a machine online without knowing about the details.
Setting up a webserver, or any other system should ~not~ be trivial. Administrators and Systems Managers have their positions because they are well-versed in the platforms on which they work upon.
Oh, wait. I just kind of re-read your troll, um, i mean post. I don't think I have to say any more. I'll get back to my 7th hour of the day keeping it up. Apache, that is.
Don't let not knowing about security hold you back from hosting your own site. Experiment, learn, have fun. Put an apache box up on a DMZ, put stupid content on it, see what happens. Look at your logs, see what's going on, learn from any mistakes you make along the way.
If you're in this industry, and are afraid to be the "fall guy" who has do deal with the inevitable attacks, or the "fall guy" in general, you'd better fasten your seat belt...you're in for a bumpy ride.
I mean, that's fine and all...How about backing up/restoring user data scattered about the user's HD? A machine that old, chances are, does -not- have working USB, a cd-burner, firewire, or anything else needed to back up their crap.
How many hours does that fit into the equation? Remember, we're not dealing with our own machines where, where we have them backed up via countless redundant methods.
We're talking about a client, who has no clue where her pictures of her baby's first steps are, where she happened to save all those documents which are "critical", etc.
Yeah, I know it's fairly easy to find out where this stuff is, but let's be realistic. Fixing the problem is not as simple as the average slashdot reader (i.e. someone -not- working in the real world as a well-paid, trustworthy, people-oriented consultant) wants to make it.
Call me what you will, I just call them as I see them after spending -far- too much time here over the years and getting more and more frustrated at the lack of real-world experience behind the "cute" comments constantly being made.
I'd like to see the client's response after you wipe the drive and forget some critical piece of data has not been backed-up/restored.
As a qualified tech, you need to know that the user does -not- know where everything is, and that it's your responsibility as the contractor/tech to make sure that everything is in order before doing anything as rash as a fdisk/format/reinstall.
If it's your sister's machine, fine. A paying client, not.
Is 10.5 hours excessive? Absolutely, but again, depending on the amount of applications installed, what needed to be backed up, what type of backup device was used...that can easily start chewing up billable hours very quickly.
I can't stress enough the importance of internships. Finding a company that will teach you valuable (not only technical, but buisness as well) skills is invaluable and should be part of every university student's curriculum.
Far too few "advisors" at university stress and promote the importance (and in my op., necessity) of an internship.
You'll not only learn valuable skills, you might be lucky enough to find a prospective employer, or a company that will help out with those nasty tuition expenses.
Too late for you, as a graduate, but hopfully some current students will get on the ball and investigate all options available to them while still in school.
On a side note, having an internship was great for me, as I communicated with my professors on what I was doing as an intern, and often times got a -lot- more slack when it came to project deadlines, missed classes, etc.:-)
I don't think it's necessarily about running MS-Office apps completely. The one or two things that are holding me back from deploying linux desktops are Peachtree Accounting and another 3rd party application that the (in my case) mortgage industry relies on heavily. There's nothing in sight to come close in the F/OSS world (that I'm aware of). If I'm wrong, help me:-)
Fortunately, most other 3rd party vendors that we deal with have ported old shitty Win32 apps over to Servlet/JSP technology.
For the holdovers, however, a BCL or something is needed in order to move forward.
I think the one nice thing about the SciAtl DVR boxen is the dual-tuner. Second place goes to not having an additional box sitting on my rack. Granted the UI/Experience on the TiVo may be nicer, but (at least for me), it's mostly fluff (at least for now).
As far as the "genericifying" of the TiVo brand name...that's been covered elsewhere.
A case of the midwest being overlooked in terms of all things tech. Just because we're not at the epicenter of Silicon Valley doesn't mean that we're not afforded the luxury of some pretty kick-ass installations.
True enough, however, what about unattended, automated backups?
I don't believe this device is meant to replace any [CD|DVD]/RW drives. It's for those of us who want to back up our data and lock the media away somewhere offsite.
Propriatary? That's an oft-misused word thrown into the fray a bit too often. Sometimes with propriatary hardware (ehem, Apple, Sun, SGI,...), you get the best bang for the buck.
Now, I will bitch about the lack of linux support, but we'll see what happens come Q3.
Slashdot Mirror
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It's a much more fundamental difference, and it -is- important to folks other than lawyers and zealots (neither being something that I am).
I am, however, a strong believer of facts. Facts is facts, and facts are that BSD != Linux. Ever.
My intention is not to bash the original poster (that's rude), not to educate (because most of you know this already), not to troll (unlike most of my other posts). It's simply to remind everyone here to research before you hit that post button.
The lower the noise and the stronger the signal, the less time we have to spend reading and writing inane posts such as mine.
Back to the topic at hand, I run the ship for a -very- small financial institution, no more than 20 seats. I've happily migrated them all to OS X, and a nice XServe/XRaid machine in the back room replaced 2 rickety linux boxen.
Apple must've done their job. As a linux user who can remember installing from floppy (and disk 16 of 17 of X Window failing forcing me to start over...and being a diehard and somewhat zealous individual), I've switched.
10 years ago, I'd have called you crazy for even suggesting it.
But that's just me and I'm dumb.
If you'd have rtfa, you'd know what the config is.
Exactly!!
I have to watch it when auditing code or making minor changes when the powers-that-be are looking over my shoulder...more than once I've embarassed myself with working on code clearly commented with things like:
Oops
You ain't learnin' when yer talkin'
Okay, rarely do I laugh much around here (except from total dismay at the QOC of most of the posts), but that...that made me PIMP. Well, almost.
Keep up the good work!!
You ain't learnin' when yer talkin'
FTA:
Okay, am I the only one who thinks this is totally ridiculous? FreeBSD churns away quietly and quickly in backoffices everywhere...since when did we start to care about "powered by" stickers and logos? What we care about is the fact that we install these boxen, turn out the lights and walk away.
Yes, I know I'm ignoring the marketing hype and all that happy crap, but c'mon, it's kind of a stretch to think that a pretty little logo is going to change any PHB's opinion on an "already dead" o/s any ways
But, hell, that's just me, and I'm dumb.
You ain't learnin' when yer talkin'
I'm sure the terms of use of AOL's corporate networks indicate that all information contained on their computer systems are property of AOL.
This, then, would mean that whether he had an electronic file, had written down each address, a hardcopy listing, whatever...it was property of AOL. He stole that information.
But that's just my take on it, and i'm dumb.
Life is simple, people make it complicated
Not only are 'average' users quick to jump on a bandwagon, the slashdot/oss crew (i.e. me!!)tends to be even more evangelical about such matters.
You're absolutely correct in that it's just a different (albeit better) implementation of a model which, as we all know, will theoretically -never- be perfect.
We work our asses off creating software that, to the best of our knowledge, is bug-free..but, c'mon...there is no such beast.
Bug-Free software is just software for which a bug has not yet been found...whether the bug lies in the OS, libraries, the code itself,
It's time for all software engineers to dismiss the utopian vision of this bug-free world, and look a bit beneath the surface...
I'm just gonna keep rockin and rollin makin better films...Er, Um...I mean code!!
None at all.
Because he's a big dumb dick.
That's why.
Nah, there's no point in waiting any more.
:)
As far as standards and compatibility is concerned, who knows??? I know that my powerbook only accepts DVD-R media, my Pioneer standalone player in my home theatre rack plays both + and -.
So, regardless of the standards, I can use my sub-100 dvd[+-]R burner in my pc to do what works for me, regardless of what "standards" are going to be victorious.
Dual layer media is too expensive at this time to consider it for everyday use, imo.
So, there, I answered pretty much none of your questions
Slashdot ruins a lot of stuff.
Might help a little bit. As I saw so eloquently stated somewhere...
This would not stop skilled bad guys, but would slow down those kiddies playing around.
Should this perhaps be the default? Maybe. But the bottom line is, you don't have the right to put a machine online without knowing about the details.
Setting up a webserver, or any other system should ~not~ be trivial. Administrators and Systems Managers have their positions because they are well-versed in the platforms on which they work upon.
Oh, wait. I just kind of re-read your troll, um, i mean post. I don't think I have to say any more. I'll get back to my 7th hour of the day keeping it up. Apache, that is.
Don't let not knowing about security hold you back from hosting your own site. Experiment, learn, have fun. Put an apache box up on a DMZ, put stupid content on it, see what happens. Look at your logs, see what's going on, learn from any mistakes you make along the way.
If you're in this industry, and are afraid to be the "fall guy" who has do deal with the inevitable attacks, or the "fall guy" in general, you'd better fasten your seat belt...you're in for a bumpy ride.
He who makes no mistakes makes nothing at all
I mean, that's fine and all...How about backing up/restoring user data scattered about the user's HD? A machine that old, chances are, does -not- have working USB, a cd-burner, firewire, or anything else needed to back up their crap.
How many hours does that fit into the equation? Remember, we're not dealing with our own machines where, where we have them backed up via countless redundant methods.
We're talking about a client, who has no clue where her pictures of her baby's first steps are, where she happened to save all those documents which are "critical", etc.
Yeah, I know it's fairly easy to find out where this stuff is, but let's be realistic. Fixing the problem is not as simple as the average slashdot reader (i.e. someone -not- working in the real world as a well-paid, trustworthy, people-oriented consultant) wants to make it.
Call me what you will, I just call them as I see them after spending -far- too much time here over the years and getting more and more frustrated at the lack of real-world experience behind the "cute" comments constantly being made.
I'd like to see the client's response after you wipe the drive and forget some critical piece of data has not been backed-up/restored.
As a qualified tech, you need to know that the user does -not- know where everything is, and that it's your responsibility as the contractor/tech to make sure that everything is in order before doing anything as rash as a fdisk/format/reinstall.
If it's your sister's machine, fine. A paying client, not.
Is 10.5 hours excessive? Absolutely, but again, depending on the amount of applications installed, what needed to be backed up, what type of backup device was used...that can easily start chewing up billable hours very quickly.
But, that's my opinion, and I'm dumb.
Doctors, RN's, Clinicians, Real Estate Appraisers, Dope Dealers? Any market where basically they don't care about cost, but do care about portability.
But, that's just my opinion, and I'm dumb.
One of the best put-together and eloquent responses I think I've ever seen here.
The task in question, in reality is nothing more than a veiled attempt at social engineering, and we all know what a brilliant idea that is.
Alas, one more step in the Decline of Western Civilization.
Worse idea
I can't stress enough the importance of internships. Finding a company that will teach you valuable (not only technical, but buisness as well) skills is invaluable and should be part of every university student's curriculum.
:-)
Far too few "advisors" at university stress and promote the importance (and in my op., necessity) of an internship.
You'll not only learn valuable skills, you might be lucky enough to find a prospective employer, or a company that will help out with those nasty tuition expenses.
Too late for you, as a graduate, but hopfully some current students will get on the ball and investigate all options available to them while still in school.
On a side note, having an internship was great for me, as I communicated with my professors on what I was doing as an intern, and often times got a -lot- more slack when it came to project deadlines, missed classes, etc.
I don't think it's necessarily about running MS-Office apps completely. The one or two things that are holding me back from deploying linux desktops are Peachtree Accounting and another 3rd party application that the (in my case) mortgage industry relies on heavily. There's nothing in sight to come close in the F/OSS world (that I'm aware of). If I'm wrong, help me
Fortunately, most other 3rd party vendors that we deal with have ported old shitty Win32 apps over to Servlet/JSP technology.
For the holdovers, however, a BCL or something is needed in order to move forward.
Me.
Oh. Wait. You said 'of note'.
But, really, there are probably a lot more of us out there than most folks realize.
I think the one nice thing about the SciAtl DVR boxen is the dual-tuner. Second place goes to not having an additional box sitting on my rack. Granted the UI/Experience on the TiVo may be nicer, but (at least for me), it's mostly fluff (at least for now).
As far as the "genericifying" of the TiVo brand name...that's been covered elsewhere.
Whatever happened to people using their heads to make smart decisions on how to handle their day to day existence?
Geez.
Again,
:-)
A case of the midwest being overlooked in terms of all things tech. Just because we're not at the epicenter of Silicon Valley doesn't mean that we're not afforded the luxury of some pretty kick-ass installations.
We have lots of cool stuff here
True enough, however, what about unattended, automated backups?
...), you get the best bang for the buck.
I don't believe this device is meant to replace any [CD|DVD]/RW drives. It's for those of us who want to back up our data and lock the media away somewhere offsite.
Propriatary? That's an oft-misused word thrown into the fray a bit too often. Sometimes with propriatary hardware (ehem, Apple, Sun, SGI,
Now, I will bitch about the lack of linux support, but we'll see what happens come Q3.