I sincerely hope they never do charge for this product.
MS selling anti-spyware is like Goodyear selling anti-defective-tire-glue-or-something.
1.Build defective product 2.Let customer get flooded with problems 3.Instead of fixing defective product, sell customer some kind of half working fix you bought from someone else 4.profit!!!
There will be no monthly fee, but the game will have an initial cost. The business mmodel that is sought after by the publisher and developper is to make lots of expansions and of course charge for them. So you indeed get what you pay for : something.
It might work out as far as revenue goes, because I am part of the batch that refuses to pay a monthly fee for ANY game. I've played 2 GW betas and while it looked nice, I didnt enjoy combat. I will see if i can find some fun one last time, because from what I have played, I won't be buying it.
in an office environment, I think this has some serious potential. But not with the ISP holding the reins.
If the server is local to the company they control the data, and the app choices. Users dont have to deal with installs, or backups and etc.
I spend way too much time fixing peoples computer at the office. Clueless users have way too much control over their machine. they screw their work tool beyond comprehension, resulting in mass loss of productivity.
It's worse when some people use a laptop. ie, they bring their home computer to the office. The boss think it's great, because his data is always at hand so he can even work from home, but in truth, he brings his home computer problems to the office for me to fix.
If the ISP is the one to control, it has no value whatsoever. We lose too much control and we end up having to pay more for it.
The reason why i chose to use winamp 5 is for global hotkeys. This alone makes this player irreplacable. There's probably other players that have them (probably before WA too) but it's the first time I encountered them. I could never go back to non-global hotkey music player.
Now, I haven't had the need to look for an alternative, but maybe someone here might give me the just of them?
Give a set of tools to engineers. With all that code available, you can skip to the core of what you attempt to build, if what you need is available of course. You can even ask for help (if your goal is non-profit). Linus was a lone coder, and what he did was a big get-togheter with a lot of other lone coders.
"but that doesn't excuse whoever actually leaked it, imho."
My take is that the leak comes from the publisher. They give it to someone before everyone else has the chance to get it. If promo copies were stopped, the 0-day scene would crumble for games, movies and music alike.
I don't assume nothing, btw, it's a known fact. Promo copies get leaked. Publishers choose to go on with them because they benefits of free publicity outweigh the drawback of leakage.
We don't get royalties. We get to deal a small % when and if we make a best-seller that places us in a garanteed triple-A next title, and that doesn't happen often. We take baby steps in order to stay afloat, exactly because publishers can shitcan whenever they want.
You're right on with the dream to be independant, but that's a long shot and takes years. The publisher has the control, money and they want to keep it.
I'm a game developper for a really small company and let me tell you this:
Once the game's gone gold, it's in the publisher's hands. They bought the title and now hold the rights to it. So, if they decided to send promo copies to journalists (where 99% of leaks come from), then only the publisher is to blame.
It's the business dynamic to send promos in order to get maximum exposure, make people drool by reading the reviews that are largely biased most of the time.
If I see my game leaked and available before it's time, I wash my hands of it. I got paid for my work, and we sold the title. I'm not saying it's ok for people to distribute, but it's beign made so easy and tempting for them that nothing I'll say will make a difference. . .
I bought a used NetMD walkman and didnt get the installation cd with it. No big deal, i'll just get it from the sony support site. . ..wait. ..they don't have it available for download! After whining in the message boards along with several other users facing a missing cd or some other similar problem, one member decided to make an iso out of the cd and post a link to it. Sony refuses to provide the software with no reason whatsoever, I mean, if you don't own the hardware, this software is useless, it's just plain bad business. . .
And Longhorn is a bar located right at the bottom of Whistler mountain. Just when you come down from skiing, you can take off your skis, take 10 steps forward and get a few brewskies
you got me thinking about this(slightly off-topic): I buy a 40gb iPod for 400$. I fill it to brim with my mp3 collection (i own the originals of course). I decide to sell the aforementionned iPod. Since I am so great and all, someone offers me 1000$ for it. I sell it, then the buyer notices that I had a momentarily lapse of reason and forgot to delete the mp3's.
Young out of school lawyers are often fighting for a postion. They have to work hard to get noticed and get into the higher spheres. Competition is fierce.
I am always reminded of Lionel Hutz in the Simpsons that's running after patients in the ER looking for a case. It's a parody, of course, but parodies are an exaggerated reflection of life. So, this RIAA nonsense, the software patents, the ridiculous EULA's and the things we bitch about all day long here have to be a strong case for any one to take on.
Fight the establishment, you'll get noticed, win, and you'll be a hero.
I'm fed up of reading about the big guys complaining and bullying everyone around, someone should slap them with the clue stick.
One thing I don't understand is that SorftICe is a kernel debugger used to debug Drivers(It's in fact caleld driver studio). How can it be that installing a driver could prevent SoftIce from cracking it?
We don't have DMCA. Canadian government puts a levy "tax" on the digital medias (blank cds, dvds, etc) and supposedly shares these profits with the artists. Its a crappy system that doesnt give back to the deserving and punishes the wrong buyers at the same time (I buy cds to store backup personal data, where is the logic in there?).
Lately a federal judge ruled that sharing files over networks like kazaa wasnt copyright infringement, saying that making a file available in a shared folder didn't constitute a deliberate attempt at illegal distribution (sorry, no links).
Then, Prime Minister Paul Martin (liberal) said he would overrule this judgement because it harms the local artists.
Nah , don't do that.
Our (canadian) politcians are sell-outs to the almighty US. If many companies do so, our politicians will get pressure from US corporations and make those crazy laws that cripple the logics of fair use.
Already, we have Paul Martin the P.M. trying to overrule the federal judgement about p2p legality.
You seem to want people to notice you. Probably important people. In order to get a freebie. You're not beign bright then, you're just beign lazy.
Motivation is the key to success.
Even people that don't have innate talent can surpass a "natural" in every field. He will work harder, 10-100 times harder than the natural, but his own motivation drives him forward, past the natural. (apply this to sports, arts, life in general).
The only motivation you need is self-motivation. Don't think anyone will hand you anything on a silver platter because you're (or think you are) bright. If you really are bright, it just means you will need to put in less effort than the average to obtain similar or best results.
This can be your downturn if it makes you lazy. And it can, and it will.
Start moving forward, any field will do because you can pretty much succeed in anything, once you get some momentum, you'll see that you make it faster than others. The secret is just to start and stop spelunking your bellybutton.
The whole Linux movement is about principle. Getting money from the enemy to shit on your porch is called "whoring". I have more respect and understanding for people with principles than whores.
The guy is a principle driven person having to deal with a whoring driven management or something. If you want my opinion, he had some guts to do this. You should do what he says.
Gaming geeks, just like other people, feel drawn towards flashy branding.
Beleive it or not, some people are willing to pay more for brandings! Look at this:
1-Make up a brand
2-Claim it's the bestest and charge insane price for it
3-Watch herds of sheeps shower you with cash
4-profit
There. Wanna be rich? Exploit the gullible, it's easy because there are so many.
I recommend you have at least a million in cash in your sock drawer. This makes most problems a non-issue.
What kind of expert are those? The people that suffer from delayed pays are exactly the ones that can't afford to save up, and these people are the norm.
The RBC makes billions in profits each year. This should have never happened. It did, now pay for it, hang your head in shame and feel very sorry. Nothing excuses that.
I always carry my backpack around. From work to home through the subway at uneven hours. I am always alone, and in my pack I got a my digital camera, my mp3 player, sometimes my laptop.
I live in Canada, so I am not allowed to carry weapons (anyways, a small knife is all I'd take if it was legal). But even if I never really felt treathened, I opted for a mace spray in my pockets.
I bought one for my girlfriend too, since she works weekend evenings downtown.
Mace is legal, light, conceilable, cheap and VERY potent. I've seen it at work and it's painful just to look at.
The only thing I fear now is muggers attacking me with mace spray. I seriously fear it more than a knife.
What about the coders that make the vulnerable code?
Or the companies that publish, sell and support the vulnerable software?
Before blaming the sysadmins, think about the company that makes unsecure software, incurring millions of dollars of costs when infection happens and has NO LIABILITY.
I think the criminal is not only the virus maker. Punishment by death is laughable. There are far more important issues to tackle in the judicial system then what type of punishment virus writers should have.
Like some poster said above me: Go after the spyware and spam makers first. Both are mailicious in form, and as much as I hate them, I wouldn't want to see one killed. This is really absurd.
we sure as hell wouldn't want the FBI catching CRIMINALS, because the FBI IS EVIL!
Good measure and judgment is getting thrown out the windows these days, by both sides to make matters worse.
Privacy is a delicate matter. If a ISP logs user activity, it should be clear what they do log and who has access to these logs. I don't mind the FBI, it's their job, but I do mind the RIAA.
The problem is, some people want anonymity ( I know I do) but at what price does it come?
I'm glad the FBI uses logs and other invasion of privacy to catch people affiliated with juvenile prostitution. Think about it, criminals always take great care about privacy, else they'd be caught dead fast.
If you are a legitimate user, your only concern should be WHO looks at your personal data.
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I sincerely hope they never do charge for this product.
MS selling anti-spyware is like Goodyear selling anti-defective-tire-glue-or-something.
1.Build defective product
2.Let customer get flooded with problems
3.Instead of fixing defective product, sell customer
some kind of half working fix you bought from someone else
4.profit!!!
AC uninformed trolling. . .
There will be no monthly fee, but the game will have an initial cost. The business mmodel that is sought after by the publisher and developper is to make lots of expansions and of course charge for them. So you indeed get what you pay for : something.
It might work out as far as revenue goes, because I am part of the batch that refuses to pay a monthly fee for ANY game. I've played 2 GW betas and while it looked nice, I didnt enjoy combat. I will see if i can find some fun one last time, because from what I have played, I won't be buying it.
in an office environment, I think this has some serious potential. But not with the ISP holding the reins.
If the server is local to the company they control the data, and the app choices. Users dont have to deal with installs, or backups and etc.
I spend way too much time fixing peoples computer at the office. Clueless users have way too much control over their machine. they screw their work tool beyond comprehension, resulting in mass loss of productivity.
It's worse when some people use a laptop. ie, they bring their home computer to the office. The boss think it's great, because his data is always at hand so he can even work from home, but in truth, he brings his home computer problems to the office for me to fix.
If the ISP is the one to control, it has no value whatsoever. We lose too much control and we end up having to pay more for it.
Unreal tournament 2004 removed ALL the cd checks in their 2nd or third patch. Yes, I do own the original.
The reason why i chose to use winamp 5 is for global hotkeys. This alone makes this player irreplacable. There's probably other players that have them (probably before WA too) but it's the first time I encountered them. I could never go back to non-global hotkey music player.
Now, I haven't had the need to look for an alternative, but maybe someone here might give me the just of them?
Here's the primary goal of open source IMO.
Give a set of tools to engineers. With all that code available, you can skip to the core of what you attempt to build, if what you need is available of course. You can even ask for help (if your goal is non-profit). Linus was a lone coder, and what he did was a big get-togheter with a lot of other lone coders.
It's just a paradigm shift.
"but that doesn't excuse whoever actually leaked it, imho."
My take is that the leak comes from the publisher. They give it to someone before everyone else has the chance to get it. If promo copies were stopped, the 0-day scene would crumble for games, movies and music alike.
I don't assume nothing, btw, it's a known fact. Promo copies get leaked. Publishers choose to go on with them because they benefits of free publicity outweigh the drawback of leakage.
We don't get royalties.
We get to deal a small % when and if we make a best-seller that places us in a garanteed triple-A next title, and that doesn't happen often. We take baby steps in order to stay afloat, exactly because publishers can shitcan whenever they want.
You're right on with the dream to be independant, but that's a long shot and takes years. The publisher has the control, money and they want to keep it.
I'm a game developper for a really small company and let me tell you this:
Once the game's gone gold, it's in the publisher's hands. They bought the title and now hold the rights to it. So, if they decided to send promo copies to journalists (where 99% of leaks come from), then only the publisher is to blame.
It's the business dynamic to send promos in order to get maximum exposure, make people drool by reading the reviews that are largely biased most of the time.
If I see my game leaked and available before it's time, I wash my hands of it. I got paid for my work, and we sold the title. I'm not saying it's ok for people to distribute, but it's beign made so easy and tempting for them that nothing I'll say will make a difference. . .
What's next, Coffee is addictive?
You had the choice not to buy Dell.
I bought a used NetMD walkman and didnt get the installation cd with it. No big deal, i'll just get it from the sony support site. . . .wait. . .they don't have it available for download!
After whining in the message boards along with several other users facing a missing cd or some other similar problem, one member decided to make an iso out of the cd and post a link to it.
Sony refuses to provide the software with no reason whatsoever, I mean, if you don't own the hardware, this software is useless, it's just plain bad business. . .
And Longhorn is a bar located right at the bottom of Whistler mountain. Just when you come down from skiing, you can take off your skis, take 10 steps forward and get a few brewskies
you got me thinking about this(slightly off-topic):
I buy a 40gb iPod for 400$. I fill it to brim with my mp3 collection (i own the originals of course).
I decide to sell the aforementionned iPod. Since I am so great and all, someone offers me 1000$ for it.
I sell it, then the buyer notices that I had a momentarily lapse of reason and forgot to delete the mp3's.
Have I commited a criminal offense?
Young out of school lawyers are often fighting for a postion. They have to work hard to get noticed and get into the higher spheres. Competition is fierce.
I am always reminded of Lionel Hutz in the Simpsons that's running after patients in the ER looking for a case. It's a parody, of course, but parodies are an exaggerated reflection of life. So, this RIAA nonsense, the software patents, the ridiculous EULA's and the things we bitch about all day long here have to be a strong case for any one to take on.
Fight the establishment, you'll get noticed, win, and you'll be a hero.
I'm fed up of reading about the big guys complaining and bullying everyone around, someone should slap them with the clue stick.
One thing I don't understand is that SorftICe is a kernel debugger used to debug Drivers(It's in fact caleld driver studio). How can it be that installing a driver could prevent SoftIce from cracking it?
We don't have DMCA.
Canadian government puts a levy "tax" on the digital medias (blank cds, dvds, etc) and supposedly shares these profits with the artists.
Its a crappy system that doesnt give back to the deserving and punishes the wrong buyers at the same time (I buy cds to store backup personal data, where is the logic in there?).
Lately a federal judge ruled that sharing files over networks like kazaa wasnt copyright infringement, saying that making a file available in a shared folder didn't constitute a deliberate attempt at illegal distribution (sorry, no links).
Then, Prime Minister Paul Martin (liberal) said he would overrule this judgement because it harms the local artists.
All a load of crap if you ask me.
Nah , don't do that. Our (canadian) politcians are sell-outs to the almighty US. If many companies do so, our politicians will get pressure from US corporations and make those crazy laws that cripple the logics of fair use. Already, we have Paul Martin the P.M. trying to overrule the federal judgement about p2p legality.
You seem to want people to notice you. Probably important people. In order to get a freebie.
You're not beign bright then, you're just beign lazy.
Motivation is the key to success.
Even people that don't have innate talent can surpass a "natural" in every field. He will work harder, 10-100 times harder than the natural, but his own motivation drives him forward, past the natural. (apply this to sports, arts, life in general).
The only motivation you need is self-motivation. Don't think anyone will hand you anything on a silver platter because you're (or think you are) bright. If you really are bright, it just means you will need to put in less effort than the average to obtain similar or best results.
This can be your downturn if it makes you lazy. And it can, and it will.
Start moving forward, any field will do because you can pretty much succeed in anything, once you get some momentum, you'll see that you make it faster than others. The secret is just to start and stop spelunking your bellybutton.
It's about something called "principle".
The whole Linux movement is about principle. Getting money from the enemy to shit on your porch is called "whoring". I have more respect and understanding for people with principles than whores.
The guy is a principle driven person having to deal with a whoring driven management or something. If you want my opinion, he had some guts to do this. You should do what he says.
Gaming geeks, just like other people, feel drawn towards flashy branding. Beleive it or not, some people are willing to pay more for brandings! Look at this: 1-Make up a brand 2-Claim it's the bestest and charge insane price for it 3-Watch herds of sheeps shower you with cash 4-profit There. Wanna be rich? Exploit the gullible, it's easy because there are so many.
Bull.
I recommend you have at least a million in cash in your sock drawer. This makes most problems a non-issue.
What kind of expert are those?
The people that suffer from delayed pays are exactly the ones that can't afford to save up, and these people are the norm.
The RBC makes billions in profits each year. This should have never happened. It did, now pay for it, hang your head in shame and feel very sorry.
Nothing excuses that.
I always carry my backpack around. From work to home through the subway at uneven hours. I am always alone, and in my pack I got a my digital camera, my mp3 player, sometimes my laptop.
I live in Canada, so I am not allowed to carry weapons (anyways, a small knife is all I'd take if it was legal). But even if I never really felt treathened, I opted for a mace spray in my pockets.
I bought one for my girlfriend too, since she works weekend evenings downtown.
Mace is legal, light, conceilable, cheap and VERY potent. I've seen it at work and it's painful just to look at.
The only thing I fear now is muggers attacking me with mace spray. I seriously fear it more than a knife.
(I hope I just didn't tip some bad guys off here)
What about the coders that make the vulnerable code?
Or the companies that publish, sell and support the vulnerable software?
Before blaming the sysadmins, think about the company that makes unsecure software, incurring millions of dollars of costs when infection happens and has NO LIABILITY.
I think the criminal is not only the virus maker.
Punishment by death is laughable.
There are far more important issues to tackle in the judicial system then what type of punishment virus writers should have.
Like some poster said above me:
Go after the spyware and spam makers first.
Both are mailicious in form, and as much as I hate them, I wouldn't want to see one killed. This is really absurd.
Nice!
we sure as hell wouldn't want the FBI catching CRIMINALS, because the FBI IS EVIL!
Good measure and judgment is getting thrown out the windows these days, by both sides to make matters worse.
Privacy is a delicate matter. If a ISP logs user activity, it should be clear what they do log and who has access to these logs. I don't mind the FBI, it's their job, but I do mind the RIAA.
The problem is, some people want anonymity ( I know I do) but at what price does it come?
I'm glad the FBI uses logs and other invasion of privacy to catch people affiliated with juvenile prostitution. Think about it, criminals always take great care about privacy, else they'd be caught dead fast.
If you are a legitimate user, your only concern should be WHO looks at your personal data.