...but it's always been that way, hasn't it? If an iPod was around 10 years ago, it still would have cost you about $9000. It's just the price of OWNING music, always has been.
Napster is different. It LOANS the music to you. So comparing them is like comparing *insert obligatory Apple dichotomy here*.
The price difference is still a choice for consumers. Do I want to be able to listen to that music after I stop paying Napster? If yes, then iTunes, if no, the Napster. Done.
Actually "religion' of sorts dates far further back. When you first start to find graves, burial sites of ancient man, you have to suggest there was a reason, a belief in an afterlife of some sort... a religion.
And to the parent, by that slippery slope logic (God could have "started it all off"), you could then also state that God created the world a second ago, along with all of our memories, implanted dinosaur bones and all.
Science wades through the BS derived by our curiosity, and science then ends up being the one entity that erodes these "magical" assumptions that religious text sums up so nicely for those that wish to remain there. Earth in seven days, Adam and Eve, etc... Science has eroded many beliefs quite satisfyingly IMHO, and it will continue to do so. We are not living on a flat planet, we are not the center of the Universe or the Solar system, etc... religion serves a purpose, but using any one's particular flavor of religious text to explain the entirety of existence would take a the will to throw out much of what we know, and much of what we will learn in the future, which is something that this person can't do. I can't throw away scientific theory for: "believe in this simply because we say you should, and there isn't a better explanation as of yet, so...".
Oh, and to whomever is wasting their mod points marking "overrated" on posts that weren't yet "rated" may want to spend them elsewhere. Excellent karma holders can start out with a score of 2. Just an FYI...
Sounds reasonable, but what doesn't is working while "keeping a clearer version for himself". I assumed he meant in his "head", which makes my post still stand. I understand the obfuscation workflow I just didn't think that's what he referred to. I could be wrong of course. But... poopsicle.
It's especially hard for older people who were novices scorned from when all of those things were true of computers. My mother still doesn't use hers for more things because she's afraid she'll break it.
It's "Macintosh", not McIntosh. It's Mac not MAC. A MAC refers to something completely different, as noted by the acronym-like capitalization. Why in the world would an abbreviation (Mac for Macintosh) be capitalized?
In true/. form, I call you all... ID10Ts.
MAC: Mandatory Access Control, Media Access Control, etc...
...you will be rewarded by being able to purchase almost any piece of software known to man for around $3. Any movie for about $1, and game for about $3.
There are malls there that are huge, and hold nothing but pirated software. Also, they copy EVERYthing, even entire cars. Honda in fact hired them for some parts manufacturing because they copied theirs so well for a much lower cost. If you can't beat them... They even introduced a complete copy of a "GM" car before GM even announced it. They are absolute masters at copying everything, manufacturing those copies, and even industrial espioniage. And the speed at which they do it is amazing.
But, if iTunes prices go up, then people will go elsewhere, like to the local music shop to pick up a CD. How is that so hard to understand? Yes, you CAN actually purchase music outside of the internet, and put it on your iPod.
I am a Mac support specialist, and I can firmly say that when I give a three button mouse to many of the users (professional graphic designers, production people), they ARE confused by the other button. When I say "right click" they look at me funny. They would much rather control-click which is the equivalent or right-clicking. Mac users are huge command-key users (much faster, no hand/eye/GUI coordinated movements). Not sure if that's the reasons, but... To people that have never used a third button, people that user their computer for heavy use for 9 hours a day with one mouse button, it is an added confusion. It just is.
You can believe it or not, you can ignore your relative understanding (having used one your entire life), and you can suggest opposing assumptions, but it is true, the extra buttons add a level of operation that the people at Apple simply didn't want to include. It's part of their entire existence. It is quite easy to reason, and I for one do not think it was a mistake (and certainly people at Apple don't either, after over two decades no less...).
"Creative has a point, the choice is very limitted."
Choice? Over 1 million tracks from all 4 major labels and over 600 independent labels doesn't provide enough "choice"?
Yikes.
Besides, you can still put all of your ripped MP3's from your purchased CDs (and even the ones that you didn't purchase, *ahem*) on you iPod, no problem. You can burn your iTunes Music to CD's as much as you wish, and then RIP them into non-DRM'd mp3s even.
So, I still do not get this AAC thing... who cares? If you buy a Zen, then you are limited to using one of the much smaller music download sites (legit). That sounds limiting...
And remember, it still runs Windows. I consider that a negative. The Mac Mini comes pre-installed with Mac OS X and iLife. That alone makes even your hard searched POS machine not worth the page it was rendered on.
"When is the last time they produced something truly innovative?"
Yeah, like M$ has.
Innovation isn't always in the narrow realm of new products, but can also be in the realm of making those same things work better than anyone else has been able to (iPod, iMac, UNIX OS X, iLife, etc...).
Correct. Saddam became a bad guy (in the eyes of the US) only after he disobeyed orders by invading Kuwait. The whole "gassing" thing wasn't an issue until Bushies saw that they could use it as an excuse for war. They aren't stupid, just evil.
But remember, the only people that think the US uses its massive power to uphold higher moral ground are the same ignorami that voted for Bush, thinking they were doing same thing...
Correct. Saddam became a bad guy (in the eyes of the US) when he disobeyed orders by invading Kuwait.
But remember, the only people that think the US uses its massive power to uphold higher moral ground are the same ignorami that voted for Bush, thinking the same thing...
Bull... and then crap. I get your point, but 256 should be plenty to run Safari/iTunes. If you want to run any more larger, purchased apps, then yes, you will need more ram. No doubt about it.
The point is that if you are purchasing a Dual 1.8 G5, you are most definitely going to be using for more than surfing the web and listening to mp3's, and that is why we scratch our heads. It's like selling a Hummer with a 5 gallong gas tank. It runs just fine, but if I want to drive it any further than the nearest grocery store you need a bigger one.
Eh, difference of opinion I suppose. I thought it was quite easy. It came with it's own little plastic "pry" bar and easy to follow instructions.
The only thing I didn't like was that the instructions didn't warn me about the glue holding the original battery. It made me "feel" like something wasn't right when I was pulling it off, even though it was a needed step.
All in all the slightly more involved batter replacement process was far and away an excusable trade off for not having an "ugly" battery door on the device. There's nothing to fall off or break. It gives it this "solid single unit" feeling that you just plug things into, nothing more. I guess I just realize that it was a good trade off; the gain outweighs the slight loss. IMO of course.
And when it does go bad (as ALL lithiums will), it's a very simple replacement. I have replaced my original iPod's battery once. It was less than $50, and it was a longer lasting battery.
And as far as the original poster, I absolutely love my iPod. Yes, the original 5 GB.
99.9% Bush Policy = Bad, evil, greed driven, control grabbing, fear laden, pile of war.
You see, you can do both. In fact, suggesting otherwise would be quite silly indeed... at least in a free, working democracy, and the jury is now out on that...
This is still a democracy, right? I can in fact do both, at this point in time...
...but it's always been that way, hasn't it? If an iPod was around 10 years ago, it still would have cost you about $9000. It's just the price of OWNING music, always has been.
Napster is different. It LOANS the music to you. So comparing them is like comparing *insert obligatory Apple dichotomy here*.
The price difference is still a choice for consumers. Do I want to be able to listen to that music after I stop paying Napster? If yes, then iTunes, if no, the Napster. Done.
Actually "religion' of sorts dates far further back. When you first start to find graves, burial sites of ancient man, you have to suggest there was a reason, a belief in an afterlife of some sort... a religion. And to the parent, by that slippery slope logic (God could have "started it all off"), you could then also state that God created the world a second ago, along with all of our memories, implanted dinosaur bones and all.
Science wades through the BS derived by our curiosity, and science then ends up being the one entity that erodes these "magical" assumptions that religious text sums up so nicely for those that wish to remain there. Earth in seven days, Adam and Eve, etc... Science has eroded many beliefs quite satisfyingly IMHO, and it will continue to do so. We are not living on a flat planet, we are not the center of the Universe or the Solar system, etc... religion serves a purpose, but using any one's particular flavor of religious text to explain the entirety of existence would take a the will to throw out much of what we know, and much of what we will learn in the future, which is something that this person can't do. I can't throw away scientific theory for: "believe in this simply because we say you should, and there isn't a better explanation as of yet, so...".
It just doesn't make sense to me at all.
But, I digress...
Oh, and to whomever is wasting their mod points marking "overrated" on posts that weren't yet "rated" may want to spend them elsewhere. Excellent karma holders can start out with a score of 2. Just an FYI...
Sounds reasonable, but what doesn't is working while "keeping a clearer version for himself". I assumed he meant in his "head", which makes my post still stand. I understand the obfuscation workflow I just didn't think that's what he referred to. I could be wrong of course. But... poopsicle.
Well thank god nobody will ever, ever, evar, have to edit any code that you have evar worked on before. Ever...
You watched the "herd" run to higher ground and you followed?
Well, that doesn't sound very hard...
Well hello Caption Obvious.
It's especially hard for older people who were novices scorned from when all of those things were true of computers. My mother still doesn't use hers for more things because she's afraid she'll break it.
"The innovator is usually the one who ends up going out of business. Apple is (currently) the exception."
Yes, that beleaguered company should be going out of business any decade now, I can feel it...
It's "Macintosh", not McIntosh. It's Mac not MAC. A MAC refers to something completely different, as noted by the acronym-like capitalization. Why in the world would an abbreviation (Mac for Macintosh) be capitalized?
/. form, I call you all... ID10Ts.
In true
MAC: Mandatory Access Control, Media Access Control, etc...
...you will be rewarded by being able to purchase almost any piece of software known to man for around $3. Any movie for about $1, and game for about $3.
There are malls there that are huge, and hold nothing but pirated software. Also, they copy EVERYthing, even entire cars. Honda in fact hired them for some parts manufacturing because they copied theirs so well for a much lower cost. If you can't beat them... They even introduced a complete copy of a "GM" car before GM even announced it. They are absolute masters at copying everything, manufacturing those copies, and even industrial espioniage. And the speed at which they do it is amazing.
It's a bootleg economy. Enjoy it I say!
But, if iTunes prices go up, then people will go elsewhere, like to the local music shop to pick up a CD. How is that so hard to understand? Yes, you CAN actually purchase music outside of the internet, and put it on your iPod.
I am a Mac support specialist, and I can firmly say that when I give a three button mouse to many of the users (professional graphic designers, production people), they ARE confused by the other button. When I say "right click" they look at me funny. They would much rather control-click which is the equivalent or right-clicking. Mac users are huge command-key users (much faster, no hand/eye/GUI coordinated movements). Not sure if that's the reasons, but... To people that have never used a third button, people that user their computer for heavy use for 9 hours a day with one mouse button, it is an added confusion. It just is.
You can believe it or not, you can ignore your relative understanding (having used one your entire life), and you can suggest opposing assumptions, but it is true, the extra buttons add a level of operation that the people at Apple simply didn't want to include. It's part of their entire existence. It is quite easy to reason, and I for one do not think it was a mistake (and certainly people at Apple don't either, after over two decades no less...).
IMHO,
"Creative has a point, the choice is very limitted."
Choice? Over 1 million tracks from all 4 major labels and over 600 independent labels doesn't provide enough "choice"?
Yikes.
Besides, you can still put all of your ripped MP3's from your purchased CDs (and even the ones that you didn't purchase, *ahem*) on you iPod, no problem. You can burn your iTunes Music to CD's as much as you wish, and then RIP them into non-DRM'd mp3s even.
So, I still do not get this AAC thing... who cares? If you buy a Zen, then you are limited to using one of the much smaller music download sites (legit). That sounds limiting...
Um, no CD-burner in that Gateway either.
And remember, it still runs Windows. I consider that a negative. The Mac Mini comes pre-installed with Mac OS X and iLife. That alone makes even your hard searched POS machine not worth the page it was rendered on.
"When is the last time they produced something truly innovative?"
Yeah, like M$ has.
Innovation isn't always in the narrow realm of new products, but can also be in the realm of making those same things work better than anyone else has been able to (iPod, iMac, UNIX OS X, iLife, etc...).
"Of course, if it were genetics, according to Darwin, it would be a trait that should have been wiped out long ago since homosexuals cant reproduce."
Double nonsense. By that logic there wouldn't be any sort of abnormality at birth, which would fly in the face of Darwinism.
Sorry, my bad. Very twitchy mouse button hovering over "Submit".
Correct. Saddam became a bad guy (in the eyes of the US) only after he disobeyed orders by invading Kuwait. The whole "gassing" thing wasn't an issue until Bushies saw that they could use it as an excuse for war. They aren't stupid, just evil.
But remember, the only people that think the US uses its massive power to uphold higher moral ground are the same ignorami that voted for Bush, thinking they were doing same thing...
Correct. Saddam became a bad guy (in the eyes of the US) when he disobeyed orders by invading Kuwait. But remember, the only people that think the US uses its massive power to uphold higher moral ground are the same ignorami that voted for Bush, thinking the same thing...
Bull... and then crap. I get your point, but 256 should be plenty to run Safari/iTunes. If you want to run any more larger, purchased apps, then yes, you will need more ram. No doubt about it.
The point is that if you are purchasing a Dual 1.8 G5, you are most definitely going to be using for more than surfing the web and listening to mp3's, and that is why we scratch our heads. It's like selling a Hummer with a 5 gallong gas tank. It runs just fine, but if I want to drive it any further than the nearest grocery store you need a bigger one.
Not to mention, Apple is a dying, beleaguered company anyway...
Eh, difference of opinion I suppose. I thought it was quite easy. It came with it's own little plastic "pry" bar and easy to follow instructions.
The only thing I didn't like was that the instructions didn't warn me about the glue holding the original battery. It made me "feel" like something wasn't right when I was pulling it off, even though it was a needed step.
All in all the slightly more involved batter replacement process was far and away an excusable trade off for not having an "ugly" battery door on the device. There's nothing to fall off or break. It gives it this "solid single unit" feeling that you just plug things into, nothing more. I guess I just realize that it was a good trade off; the gain outweighs the slight loss. IMO of course.
And when it does go bad (as ALL lithiums will), it's a very simple replacement. I have replaced my original iPod's battery once. It was less than $50, and it was a longer lasting battery.
And as far as the original poster, I absolutely love my iPod. Yes, the original 5 GB.
It's pretty damn simple.
Funding for NASA = Good.
99.9% Bush Policy = Bad, evil, greed driven, control grabbing, fear laden, pile of war.
You see, you can do both. In fact, suggesting otherwise would be quite silly indeed... at least in a free, working democracy, and the jury is now out on that...
This is still a democracy, right? I can in fact do both, at this point in time...