I think GDC looks more professional than E3 in part *because* of the lack of media coverage. Add TV cameras, even to a GDC event, and everything changes...
Yes, the Shadowrun-Online team is a different creature entirely. They are the "indie dreamers". As far as I can tell they've got no budget, no publishing experience, and big dreams. They don't have the same worries as the "indie worker".
I love the "indie dreamers", and I wish these guys the very best (it would be nice to see a "Real" Shadowrun game), but you're right in thinking that $3000 for an ESRB rating is probably the least of their worries.
I guess my idea of "indie" developer isn't yours. Most of the indie developers I deal with are either self-supported or have very limited funding (hard to negotiate a big budget for your first title).
Depending on the scope of the game, team size, and location (Los Angles vs. China), $3000 can fund an extra week of development or the entire project. I have one developer who produces 3-7 games a year, almost all of them under $3,000.
My hope is that games like this will help legitimize video games as an art.
Yeah maybe that's a bit far fetched, but think about it: if every movie created was a simple action film ("Snakes of a Plane") or low-budget porno, nobody would consider movies an art form. It took films like "Birth of a Nation" (a highly controversial film, for good reason) before people took film seriously.
Not at all. In the US they make you sign waivers for everything.
In any courtroom outside of "Phoenix Wright" it shows that the radio station cared enough to warn the contestants of danger. They fact that she "knew the risks" going into the contest (she read and signed the waiver) means that the radio station will probably get away fairly easy.
8 glasses of water with nothing else is a bad idea.
I'm not a doctor, but my understanding is as long as you are getting some electrolytes you'll be fine. If they did the contest with a sports drink (ie All-Sport), nobody would of died.
The future of GDC is why I *want* this to get off the ground. And I want it for the same reasons you pointed out.
E3 was about feeding "hype" to the media while GDC was about sharing the reality of the industry with its workers. The reality of the game industry is different then the "reality" the marking people would like the general public to believe.
If GDC has to expand to make up for E3, you'll see far less real content and way more "hype". Large companies don't like showing unpolished products, they'd rather show CGI. Developers are not as "sexy" as booth babes (who are far less likely to tell dirty secrets about the company, or share code). The big names in the industry have already censoring the content of some of the seminars (compare the content of the first Halo seminars to the Halo2 seminars). If something doesn't happen real soon, GDC as you know it will stop and E3v2 will take its place
I can't see many people playing WoW on a small little handheld device like the DS or PSP (that's why we have laptops;)). But I can see Puzzle Pirates being a big hit on the DS. If you reduced the interface a bit, even Spore might make a great handheld MMO.
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"vr helmets, well, make people puke."
So does Paris Hilton, but they still market the crap out of her.
My understanding is that the console market isn't effect that much by the PC game market, but I'm not in marketing. If anybody has seen numbers on this, I'd love to see it.
>how exactly could you be sure it was "the best PC money could buy"
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That is where brand name comes in. I don't know if it is still true, but Falcon Northwest use to make a killer rig. Sure, it costs 2-3 times more then I'm willing to pay but, if I had the money, I would trust them to give me the best.
It isn't just the time spent building the PC, its the time spent making sure you're building the right PC. I live this stuff, and even I have to spend a few days checking benchmarks and finding all the right parts.
I like building PCs, I've built over a dozen for myself, work, and friends. But, if I had more money than time, I think it would be totally worth having somebody else deal with all of it and just give me the best PC money can buy.
"Make it longer. I know -- nine bucks for three hours of gameplay isn't that bad of a deal. But I couldn't help feeling disappointed at watching the credits roll on the same night that I started the game. At any rate, you don't necessarily need to add more content to lengthen the experience."
If you can add more, fun, content then please do but never force us to do shit we don't want to do just to get to the next level (where the game *might* get fun again). A short, well thought out, fun game is sometimes exactly what I want to play. If I want a timesink, I'll load up a MMO or free-cell.
This game sounds almost exactly what I want. I can't wait to play it.:)
The lapboard was tested with the Phantom at E3 a few years back.
Demo lapboards exist, just like demo Phantom machines. While I'm guessing they have an okay chance of producing something as simple as a lapboard, I wouldn't bet much money either way...
Many 360 games have this "feature" already, it just isn't that bad yet. You don't need to buy weapon packs in Chromehounds, but you'll have an advantage if you do...
Microsoft announced plans for this back in 2004. They compared it to the ring-tone industry for cell-phones. And unless something major happens, you should expect most PS3 and XB360 games to have micro-payment content from now on.
Microsoft would rather lose the lawsuit and pay a few million rather then invalidate a tool that they can use aganst other companies.
Microsoft will either buy the company or tie them up in years of lawsuits (which will kill the company). In the end, chances are Microsoft lawyers will either find a problem with the suit or the holding company will get so tired they will just settle out-of-court.
Your $800 PC plays the new Wii games? That's really cool!
Me, I buy game consoles to play the games that come out for them. Anything else they add (web, TV, chat, DVD-playback) can be a cool bonus, but doesn't factor much into my choice.
If you reach around behind you, you'll find an area right beneath your tail bone. There is a hole there which can contain all sorts of interesting stuff (depending on your diet).
From the smell of things, this is the area Sony is getting their numbers from.
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I think GDC looks more professional than E3 in part *because* of the lack of media coverage. Add TV cameras, even to a GDC event, and everything changes...
The XBox360 is a DX9 device, not DX10. So console programmers are locked into DX9 for the next 3+ years anyhow.
Yes, the Shadowrun-Online team is a different creature entirely. They are the "indie dreamers". As far as I can tell they've got no budget, no publishing experience, and big dreams. They don't have the same worries as the "indie worker".
I love the "indie dreamers", and I wish these guys the very best (it would be nice to see a "Real" Shadowrun game), but you're right in thinking that $3000 for an ESRB rating is probably the least of their worries.
I guess my idea of "indie" developer isn't yours. Most of the indie developers I deal with are either self-supported or have very limited funding (hard to negotiate a big budget for your first title).
Depending on the scope of the game, team size, and location (Los Angles vs. China), $3000 can fund an extra week of development or the entire project. I have one developer who produces 3-7 games a year, almost all of them under $3,000.
My hope is that games like this will help legitimize video games as an art.
Yeah maybe that's a bit far fetched, but think about it: if every movie created was a simple action film ("Snakes of a Plane") or low-budget porno, nobody would consider movies an art form. It took films like "Birth of a Nation" (a highly controversial film, for good reason) before people took film seriously.
Not at all. In the US they make you sign waivers for everything.
In any courtroom outside of "Phoenix Wright" it shows that the radio station cared enough to warn the contestants of danger. They fact that she "knew the risks" going into the contest (she read and signed the waiver) means that the radio station will probably get away fairly easy.
8 glasses of water with nothing else is a bad idea.
I'm not a doctor, but my understanding is as long as you are getting some electrolytes you'll be fine. If they did the contest with a sports drink (ie All-Sport), nobody would of died.
The future of GDC is why I *want* this to get off the ground. And I want it for the same reasons you pointed out.
E3 was about feeding "hype" to the media while GDC was about sharing the reality of the industry with its workers. The reality of the game industry is different then the "reality" the marking people would like the general public to believe.
If GDC has to expand to make up for E3, you'll see far less real content and way more "hype". Large companies don't like showing unpolished products, they'd rather show CGI. Developers are not as "sexy" as booth babes (who are far less likely to tell dirty secrets about the company, or share code). The big names in the industry have already censoring the content of some of the seminars (compare the content of the first Halo seminars to the Halo2 seminars). If something doesn't happen real soon, GDC as you know it will stop and E3v2 will take its place
You're going for Mod+5 "Funny" right?
I can't see many people playing WoW on a small little handheld device like the DS or PSP (that's why we have laptops ;)). But I can see Puzzle Pirates being a big hit on the DS. If you reduced the interface a bit, even Spore might make a great handheld MMO.
"vr helmets, well, make people puke."
So does Paris Hilton, but they still market the crap out of her.
To sum up all the posts in this thread on public transit: When public transit works, it's great. When it doesn't work, it isn't.
I thought the same thing too, until I found out that they had major problems with Diebold machines too (negative number of votes).
The US media didn't pick up the story, instead they liked to show that photo of a guy looking at punch-cards with his glasses half-off.
My understanding is that the console market isn't effect that much by the PC game market, but I'm not in marketing. If anybody has seen numbers on this, I'd love to see it.
The grandparent post was a troll but you, you are something special.
Now if I could just find the "-1: Bigot" mod...
>how exactly could you be sure it was "the best PC money could buy"
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That is where brand name comes in. I don't know if it is still true, but Falcon Northwest use to make a killer rig. Sure, it costs 2-3 times more then I'm willing to pay but, if I had the money, I would trust them to give me the best.
It isn't just the time spent building the PC, its the time spent making sure you're building the right PC. I live this stuff, and even I have to spend a few days checking benchmarks and finding all the right parts.
I like building PCs, I've built over a dozen for myself, work, and friends. But, if I had more money than time, I think it would be totally worth having somebody else deal with all of it and just give me the best PC money can buy.
Didn't Intel just say they would be producing 80-core CPUs in 5 years?
I wonder how that would compare to today's eServers?
"Make it longer. I know -- nine bucks for three hours of gameplay isn't that bad of a deal. But I couldn't help feeling disappointed at watching the credits roll on the same night that I started the game. At any rate, you don't necessarily need to add more content to lengthen the experience."
If you can add more, fun, content then please do but never force us to do shit we don't want to do just to get to the next level (where the game *might* get fun again).
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A short, well thought out, fun game is sometimes exactly what I want to play. If I want a timesink, I'll load up a MMO or free-cell.
This game sounds almost exactly what I want. I can't wait to play it.
The lapboard was tested with the Phantom at E3 a few years back.
Demo lapboards exist, just like demo Phantom machines. While I'm guessing they have an okay chance of producing something as simple as a lapboard, I wouldn't bet much money either way...
Many 360 games have this "feature" already, it just isn't that bad yet. You don't need to buy weapon packs in Chromehounds, but you'll have an advantage if you do...
Microsoft announced plans for this back in 2004. They compared it to the ring-tone industry for cell-phones. And unless something major happens, you should expect most PS3 and XB360 games to have micro-payment content from now on.
I'm at the GDC to learn. If I see a cos-player in any of my sessions, I'm asking for my money back.
Microsoft would rather lose the lawsuit and pay a few million rather then invalidate a tool that they can use aganst other companies.
Microsoft will either buy the company or tie them up in years of lawsuits (which will kill the company). In the end, chances are Microsoft lawyers will either find a problem with the suit or the holding company will get so tired they will just settle out-of-court.
Your $800 PC plays the new Wii games? That's really cool!
Me, I buy game consoles to play the games that come out for them. Anything else they add (web, TV, chat, DVD-playback) can be a cool bonus, but doesn't factor much into my choice.
If you reach around behind you, you'll find an area right beneath your tail bone. There is a hole there which can contain all sorts of interesting stuff (depending on your diet).
From the smell of things, this is the area Sony is getting their numbers from.