"The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite."
- Thomas Jefferson
> Memory as well - how many of you TRULY saw a difference between PC100 and PC133 DRAM? Yeah, the benchmark numbers don't lie - but again, those are JUST benchmarks.
You may call it JUST a benchmark, but the extra 50 fps I got in Quake 3 enabled me to crank the resolution up, along with the detail quality. This was from PC100 cas 3 to PC133 cas 2 on a 1.2 T-Bird.
The problem occurs when you take Hungarian notation to its logical conclusion: You get lost amongst the alphabet soup of glyphs. Variable names provide the abstration of memory addresses, but over zealous use obfuscates the name.
Mr Z> I say this as an owner of an HP48SX and HP48GX, and a former owner of a Casio w/ dedicated A-F buttons: The HP sucks at the tasks the poster asked about. Not only do you have to hit alpha-lock to get the A-F on the HP (every time you enter a hex number), but you also have to remember to provide the correct prefix. Further, "integers" won't mix at all with "regular numbers" without going through that annoying "B->R" and "R->B" crap.
Yeah, I noticed the same prob. Just write a custom CST and a few programs, and you're all set.
Not sure who the orginal author is as it was sent around at work...
As the anniversary of 9-11 approaches, Americans and ditto-heads alike are converging to reflect upon the tragedy and its consequences. So let's review the state of the nation:
Bin Laden is still at large The anthrax killer is also still at large Halliburton and Carlyle are still making money from war Saudi Arabia is still an evil influence Ashcroft is still shredding the constitution Bush the lesser is still an idiot The Clintons are still being slandered Gore is still being demonized The economy is still going south The religious right are still insane Cancer and AIDS patients are still being criminalized Corporate criminals are still getting off Health insurance is still grossly expensive Drug companies are still raping the elderly and disabled Star Wars is still a Bad Idea Mother Nature is still NOT HAPPY Right wing shills still claim to be patriots Mass media is still supine
I just noticed that this thread has the/. logo, the "post comment" bar, the "preview comment" bar, and the "post comment" bar in the same style as Mac OS X aqua, except in the/. green. Is there a way to get the rest of the/. stories to appear this way?
> However, the Jury DOES have the power, and the right, to find a defendent "Not Guilty" for any reason. > William Penn advocated the idea that a panel of Juror-peers would be the final arbiter of the law, and this was encoded into the U.S. Constitution and Law in this country.
Correct. Here's the relevent parts:
Article III Clause 3: The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.
And
Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
Cheers -- The founding fathers were lawyers, yet they never went to law school !
> When you're playing a game, you're not doing anything else, period, and you expect real-time performance from your computer.
For most games & gamers, yes, I would agree - the game IS the computer.
However I can provide a few examples where that's not 100% correct.
When I was playing UO, I always had UO Assist, ICQ, and UO Map running. Other guilds (usually PK ones) ran IRC in the background. Why? Because the game didn't provide the proper tools to automate a lot of tedious activity / communication.
In D2X, I usually alt-tab out to RuneWizard (to check rune words), to diabloii.net (to check stats on items), to ChippyDips skill calc, and/or to my spreadsheet template of my character's stats/skills.
Another example: Playing a (single player) rpg/shooter, and I'm stuck for the past 30 mins. I tried everything I can think of, but it hasn't helped. Alt-Tab out to google or gamefaqs and hit the walkthru to get a hint. I know it would of been a huge PITA to quit the game, load the browser, check the info, then restart the game.
Granted, I'm a power-gamer, but I can't be the only one, who finds it extremely frustrated when I can't alt-tab out of a game on my computer.
Now for a console, there is no need to switch to another app in the middle of game, since you can't anyways. However, that doesn't mean you don't want access to other info when you are playing the game! What I do instead is use my main computer to load up the FAQs:-) since it is adjacent to my consoles. i.e. I want to try out some of the interesting cheat codes in GTA3. Pause the game, look at the computer beside me, then go back to the game.
> You're joking, right? Goldeneye 007, Half-Life, Deux Ex, Thief, System Shock, Rainbow 6, Jedi Knight, Medal of Honor: Frontline, No One Lives Forever, MDK, Outlaws, Hitman, Shogo.
I know its bad netiquitte to reply to one's own post, but I can clarify the proof in a much simpler way:
When given a decimal digit d (equal to 0 thru 9), what is: d * 10 mod 3 equal to ?
Using our mod rules: = (d*9 + d) mod 3 = (d*9) mod 3 + (d mod 3) = (d*3*3 mod 3) + (d mod 3) = 0 + (d mod 3) That is, any digit times 10 mod 3 is equal to that digit.
Similiarly we can extend this to any power of 10. e.g. d * 100 mod 3 = (d * 100) mod 3 = (d*99 mod 3) + (d mod 3) = (d*33*3 mod 3) + (d mod 3) = 0 + (d mod 3)
We can use the same proof for when finding d*10 mod 9.
So, using our previous example: What is 974 mod 3 = ? = (900 + 70 + 4) mod 3 = (900 mod 3) + (70 mod 3) + (4 mod 3) = (9 mod 3) + (7 mod 3) + (4 mod 3) = (9 + 7 + 4) mod 3 = 20 mod 3 = (2 mod 3) + (0 mod 3) = 2
Indras> It's always easy to tell if a number is divisible by three, just add all the digits together, and if the result is divisible by three, then so is the original number.
HaeMaker> Got a proof for this?
You need to use these few Number Theory modulas rules: Eq 1. m mod m = 0 [defn. of modulas]
and Eq 2. (a mod m) + (b mod m) = (a + b) mod m
and Eq 3. (a*m) mod m = 0
If you want a better handle on where Eq. 2 comes from, look at an analog clock. i.e. What is 11am + 9 hours expressed in am/pm format? = (11+9) mod 12 = (12 + 8) mod 12 = (12 mod 12) + (8 mod 12) = 8 pm
Similiarly for Eq 3.
The reason why (X mod 9) and (x mod 3) are interesting is because anytime you have 10 mod X = 1, you can use some mod tricks. 0 mod 3 = 0 1 mod 3 = 1 2 mod 3 = 2 3 mod 3 = 0 4 mod 3 = 1 5 mod 3 = 2 6 mod 3 = 0 7 mod 3 = 1 8 mod 3 = 2 9 mod 3 = 0 10 mod 3 = 1
INANT (I'm not a Number Theorist so please correct me if any of this is wrong!:) but here are a few exampes that should satisfy your curiousity.
Now 909 mod 9 is: = (900 mod 9) + (9 mod 9) = (100*9 mod 9) + 0 = 0
Lets try 911 mod 9: = (100*9 mod 9) + (11 mod 9) = 0 + (9 mod 9) + (2 mod 9) = 0 + 0 + 2 = 2
and 974 mod 3 = (300*3) + (74 mod 3) = 0 + (24*3 mod 3) + (2 mod 3) = 0 + 0 + 2 = 2
From the article: "It's like a beehive -- cell components can also be ganged together," he said.
Just when I thought programming the PS3 couldn't be any *worse* the then PS2 (lots of fun debugging the EE, VU0, VU1, GS, SPU, IOP all running simulatenously on the PS2:), along comes 'linked' cpus. Sure parallelization rocks for performance, but it's a head ache for game design & implementation. This is one thing the X-Box got right - port your PC game over in days, not months. Ok, enuf k'vitching.
How long do we have to wait for Gran Turismo to show-case the PS3 ?;-)
Joe Smith started the day early having set his alarm clock (MADE IN JAPAN) for 6 a.m. While his coffeepot (MADE IN CHINA) was perking, he shaved with his electric razor (MADE IN HONG KONG). He put on a dress shirt (MADE IN SRI LANKA), designer jeans (MADE IN SINGAPORE) and tennis shoes (MADE IN KOREA). After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet (MADE IN INDIA) he sat down with his calculator (MADE IN MEXICO) to see how much he could spend today. After setting his watch (MADE IN TAIWAN) to the radio (MADE IN INDIA) he got in his car (MADE IN GERMANY) and continued his search for a good paying AMERICAN JOB. At the end of yet another discouraging and fruitless day, Joe decided to relax for a while. He put on his sandals (MADE IN BRAZIL) poured himself a glass of wine (MADE IN FRANCE) and turned on his TV (MADE IN INDONESIA), and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in.....AMERICA.....
I felt bad the first time the site got/.'d. I wish there was some way to know if a site could handle the traffic, and then submit a google cache instead.
Maybe before submitting a story, people should send an email letting the site know their page might be getting linked from slashdot?
> ]. I know duplicate-URL checking wouldn't help everything I agree, even having a basic script which checked for duplicate urls would be welcome. Heck, make it per user configurabe. i.e. [x] Don't show duplicate stories
> Now we can all play games at 3x the refresh rate of the monitor.
> We don't need faster anymore.
Nonsense.
A *lot* of people want movie quality graphics in real-time. Imagine playing a game with the visual quality of "The Matrix", but completely interactive!
There are a ton of physical effects that still can't be done in real-time (yet), due to the memory bandwidth and geometry complexity. e.g.
High resolution (4Kx2K) color/z/stencil buffers used for ray-tracing, radiosity, and displaying thousands of models each with a million+ vertices (used by CAD/Medical/Games), etc, come to mind.
Then when you add in compositing / blending multiple alpha layers you just burnt all your left-over speed (if you had any). DOH!
There is a reason that Pixar and other CG studios render scenes at the *sub* pixel level @ 64 bits/pixel. We're talking about 100+ triangles PER pixel. Because detail, such as hair which is less then a pixel wide, needs to be "super-sampled". Right now, games show hair by approximating the surface of it which makes it look "blocky". UGH.
So if you want graphics to stagnate, and never look more "realistic", then sure, stick with your GeForce4 (or below.) It will continue to be usefull for the years to come.
The rest of us will be trying to dazzle the world with new visual FX making people go "Wow!".:)
The watercooling looked pretty neat. However, I didn't see any benchmarks for how much faster you could overclock your CPU if you went the water route. Anyone have any links for overclocked P4s & AMDs comparing and contrasting water cooling vs tradional fan coolage?
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Sure the Tommy Bit Char-G chars are cuter, but I prefer a car that is faster and looks nicer, say, like my Dodge Viper ...
http://www.kyosho.com/cars/kyod01x3.html
"Under the hood":
http://www.kyosho.com/cars/kyod01x1.html
--
"The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite."
- Thomas Jefferson
This FAQ describes what we can do about public servants abusing their power. Includes such goodies as Public Servant's Questionnaire.
Ver 1.7 seems to be the latest.
http://www.nettrash.com/users/frogfarm/fffaq.html
> Memory as well - how many of you TRULY saw a difference between PC100 and PC133 DRAM?
Yeah, the benchmark numbers don't lie - but again, those are JUST benchmarks.
You may call it JUST a benchmark, but the extra 50 fps I got in Quake 3 enabled me to crank the resolution up, along with the detail quality. This was from PC100 cas 3 to PC133 cas 2 on a 1.2 T-Bird.
... that this happens time and time again: Great artists aren't recognized until after they're dead.
> A voice of reason. Hungarian (while not perfect, and not that pretty) is DAMN useful.
2 560
I agree - except I use a practical Hungarion Notation, not an overly-idealistic one. I posted a comment a while ago about this.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=32873&cid=358
The problem occurs when you take Hungarian notation to its logical conclusion: You get lost amongst the alphabet soup of glyphs. Variable names provide the abstration of memory addresses, but over zealous use obfuscates the name.
Cheers
Mr Z> I say this as an owner of an HP48SX and HP48GX, and a former owner of a Casio w/ dedicated A-F buttons: The HP sucks at the tasks the poster asked about. Not only do you have to hit alpha-lock to get the A-F on the HP (every time you enter a hex number), but you also have to remember to provide the correct prefix. Further, "integers" won't mix at all with "regular numbers" without going through that annoying "B->R" and "R->B" crap.
Yeah, I noticed the same prob. Just write a custom CST and a few programs, and you're all set.
... changed to include a hacksaw? Or at even left opened? ;-)
> Who's the fucking @$$hole who moderated this as troll???
Well, I wouldn't of put it in those words, but yeah, that's what I was kind of wondering. Guess some people are afraid to face the truth.
Not sure who the orginal author is as it was sent around at work...
As the anniversary of 9-11 approaches, Americans and ditto-heads alike are converging
to reflect upon the tragedy and its consequences. So let's review the state of the nation:
Bin Laden is still at large
The anthrax killer is also still at large
Halliburton and Carlyle are still making money from war
Saudi Arabia is still an evil influence
Ashcroft is still shredding the constitution
Bush the lesser is still an idiot
The Clintons are still being slandered
Gore is still being demonized
The economy is still going south
The religious right are still insane
Cancer and AIDS patients are still being criminalized
Corporate criminals are still getting off
Health insurance is still grossly expensive
Drug companies are still raping the elderly and disabled
Star Wars is still a Bad Idea
Mother Nature is still NOT HAPPY
Right wing shills still claim to be patriots
Mass media is still supine
I just noticed that this thread has the /. logo, the "post comment" bar, the "preview comment" bar, and the "post comment" bar in the same style as Mac OS X aqua, except in the /. green. Is there a way to get the rest of the /. stories to appear this way?
"Shit... don't inflate my stock more than it's worth." - Jeff Garzik
Now if only more [people] were at least this humble...
> However, the Jury DOES have the power, and the right, to find a defendent "Not Guilty" for any reason.
> William Penn advocated the idea that a panel of Juror-peers would be the final arbiter of the law, and this was encoded into the U.S. Constitution and Law in this country.
Correct. Here's the relevent parts:
Article III
Clause 3: The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.
And
Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
Cheers
--
The founding fathers were lawyers, yet they never went to law school !
> When you're playing a game, you're not doing anything else, period, and you expect real-time performance from your computer.
:-) since it is adjacent to my consoles.
For most games & gamers, yes, I would agree - the game IS the computer.
However I can provide a few examples where that's not 100% correct.
When I was playing UO, I always had UO Assist, ICQ, and UO Map running. Other guilds (usually PK ones) ran IRC in the background. Why? Because the game didn't provide the proper tools to automate a lot of tedious activity / communication.
In D2X, I usually alt-tab out to RuneWizard (to check rune words), to diabloii.net (to check stats on items), to ChippyDips skill calc, and/or to my spreadsheet template of my character's stats/skills.
Another example: Playing a (single player) rpg/shooter, and I'm stuck for the past 30 mins. I tried everything I can think of, but it hasn't helped. Alt-Tab out to google or gamefaqs and hit the walkthru to get a hint. I know it would of been a huge PITA to quit the game, load the browser, check the info, then restart the game.
Granted, I'm a power-gamer, but I can't be the only one, who finds it extremely frustrated when I can't alt-tab out of a game on my computer.
Now for a console, there is no need to switch to another app in the middle of game, since you can't anyways. However, that doesn't mean you don't want access to other info when you are playing the game! What I do instead is use my main computer to load up the FAQs
i.e. I want to try out some of the interesting cheat codes in GTA3. Pause the game, look at the computer beside me, then go back to the game.
My $0.03
Cheers
> You're joking, right? Goldeneye 007, Half-Life, Deux Ex, Thief, System Shock, Rainbow 6, Jedi Knight, Medal of Honor: Frontline, No One Lives Forever, MDK, Outlaws, Hitman, Shogo.
;-)
You missed Max Payne
Hehe.
Or "Trashdot. The tabloid of the tech news." as one of my friends calls it.
I know its bad netiquitte to reply to one's own post, but I can clarify the proof in a much simpler way:
When given a decimal digit d (equal to 0 thru 9), what is: d * 10 mod 3 equal to ?
Using our mod rules:
= (d*9 + d) mod 3
= (d*9) mod 3 + (d mod 3)
= (d*3*3 mod 3) + (d mod 3)
= 0 + (d mod 3)
That is, any digit times 10 mod 3 is equal to that digit.
Similiarly we can extend this to any power of 10.
e.g. d * 100 mod 3
= (d * 100) mod 3
= (d*99 mod 3) + (d mod 3)
= (d*33*3 mod 3) + (d mod 3)
= 0 + (d mod 3)
We can use the same proof for when finding d*10 mod 9.
So, using our previous example:
What is 974 mod 3 = ?
= (900 + 70 + 4) mod 3
= (900 mod 3) + (70 mod 3) + (4 mod 3)
= (9 mod 3) + (7 mod 3) + (4 mod 3)
= (9 + 7 + 4) mod 3
= 20 mod 3
= (2 mod 3) + (0 mod 3)
= 2
Indras> It's always easy to tell if a number is divisible by three, just add all the digits together, and if the result is divisible by three, then so is the original number.
:) but here are a few exampes that should satisfy your curiousity.
HaeMaker> Got a proof for this?
You need to use these few Number Theory modulas rules:
Eq 1. m mod m = 0 [defn. of modulas]
and
Eq 2. (a mod m) + (b mod m) = (a + b) mod m
and
Eq 3. (a*m) mod m = 0
If you want a better handle on where Eq. 2 comes from, look at an analog clock.
i.e.
What is 11am + 9 hours expressed in am/pm format?
= (11+9) mod 12
= (12 + 8) mod 12
= (12 mod 12) + (8 mod 12)
= 8 pm
Similiarly for Eq 3.
The reason why (X mod 9) and (x mod 3) are interesting is because anytime you have 10 mod X = 1, you can use some mod tricks.
0 mod 3 = 0
1 mod 3 = 1
2 mod 3 = 2
3 mod 3 = 0
4 mod 3 = 1
5 mod 3 = 2
6 mod 3 = 0
7 mod 3 = 1
8 mod 3 = 2
9 mod 3 = 0
10 mod 3 = 1
INANT (I'm not a Number Theorist so please correct me if any of this is wrong!
Now 909 mod 9 is:
= (900 mod 9) + (9 mod 9)
= (100*9 mod 9) + 0
= 0
Lets try 911 mod 9:
= (100*9 mod 9) + (11 mod 9)
= 0 + (9 mod 9) + (2 mod 9)
= 0 + 0 + 2
= 2
and 974 mod 3
= (300*3) + (74 mod 3)
= 0 + (24*3 mod 3) + (2 mod 3)
= 0 + 0 + 2
= 2
Cheers
From the article:
:), along comes 'linked' cpus. Sure parallelization rocks for performance, but it's a head ache for game design & implementation. This is one thing the X-Box got right - port your PC game over in days, not months. Ok, enuf k'vitching.
;-)
"It's like a beehive -- cell components can also be ganged together," he said.
Just when I thought programming the PS3 couldn't be any *worse* the then PS2 (lots of fun debugging the EE, VU0, VU1, GS, SPU, IOP all running simulatenously on the PS2
How long do we have to wait for Gran Turismo to show-case the PS3 ?
> What I find scary, is people are actually DOWNLOADING episodes of Seinfeld ;) ... [long pause] ...
;-)
So, does anyone got a link?
This thread reminds me of this joke...
Joe Smith started the day early having set his alarm clock (MADE
IN JAPAN) for 6 a.m. While his coffeepot (MADE IN CHINA) was
perking, he shaved with his electric razor (MADE IN HONG KONG).
He put on a dress shirt (MADE IN SRI LANKA), designer jeans (MADE
IN SINGAPORE) and tennis shoes (MADE IN KOREA). After cooking his
breakfast in his new electric skillet (MADE IN INDIA) he sat down
with his calculator (MADE IN MEXICO) to see how much he could
spend today. After setting his watch (MADE IN TAIWAN) to the
radio (MADE IN INDIA) he got in his car (MADE IN GERMANY) and
continued his search for a good paying AMERICAN JOB. At the end
of yet another discouraging and fruitless day, Joe decided to
relax for a while. He put on his sandals (MADE IN BRAZIL) poured
himself a glass of wine (MADE IN FRANCE) and turned on
his TV (MADE IN INDONESIA), and then wondered why he can't find a good
paying job in.....AMERICA.....
Cheers
> How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
:-)
9 cords.
(Apologies to Monkey Island 2
I'm the poster that submitted the orginal link.
/.'d. I wish there was some way to know if a site could handle the traffic, and then submit a google cache instead.
I felt bad the first time the site got
Maybe before submitting a story, people should send an email letting the site know their page might be getting linked from slashdot?
> ]. I know duplicate-URL checking wouldn't help everything
I agree, even having a basic script which checked for duplicate urls would be welcome. Heck, make it per user configurabe.
i.e.
[x] Don't show duplicate stories
Cheers
> Now we can all play games at 3x the refresh rate of the monitor.
:)
> We don't need faster anymore.
Nonsense.
A *lot* of people want movie quality graphics in real-time. Imagine playing a game with the visual quality of "The Matrix", but completely interactive!
There are a ton of physical effects that still can't be done in real-time (yet), due to the memory bandwidth and geometry complexity.
e.g.
High resolution (4Kx2K) color/z/stencil buffers used for ray-tracing, radiosity, and displaying thousands of models each with a million+ vertices (used by CAD/Medical/Games), etc, come to mind.
Then when you add in compositing / blending multiple alpha layers you just burnt all your left-over speed (if you had any). DOH!
There is a reason that Pixar and other CG studios render scenes at the *sub* pixel level @ 64 bits/pixel. We're talking about 100+ triangles PER pixel. Because detail, such as hair which is less then a pixel wide, needs to be "super-sampled". Right now, games show hair by approximating the surface of it which makes it look "blocky". UGH.
So if you want graphics to stagnate, and never look more "realistic", then sure, stick with your GeForce4 (or below.) It will continue to be usefull for the years to come.
The rest of us will be trying to dazzle the world with new visual FX making people go "Wow!".
What, you expect /. articles to be accurate?
;-)
You're new around here, aren't you!
The watercooling looked pretty neat. However, I didn't see any benchmarks for how much faster you could overclock your CPU if you went the water route. Anyone have any links for overclocked P4s & AMDs comparing and contrasting water cooling vs tradional fan coolage?