Except if it's inspected and passed, the contractor and inspector can probably be held liable as well.
I highly doubt it. Especially since we don't know why it happened or even whether or not 'unlicensed' even had any bearing on it. E.g. if someone backed into it with a truck, the whole thing would be irrelevant.
As in "the person with the truck would have to pay for the damages", or were you going someplace else with that?
But all that is irrelevant to the person whose property is damaged.
The proper reason for a lawsuit is to recover actual damages, not treat every accident like a lottery ticket.
I agree with you on both points. Still, as the person paying the damages, you'd want to be able to pass on those expenses to the contractor if they did shoddy work or have insurance pay for as much as you gotten coverage of. And while the people might not be looking to sue you into oblivion, if they can't afford a lawyer straight out, they'll probably hire one that'll take a cut of whatever you pay out. That lawyer will certainly make sure the case is worth their time. Even if they're nice about it, the final cost will be much more just the damages when you factor in your lawyer fees, theirs and even a fair amount for damages.
Please mod informative. Just curious what state/towns are at this level of sophistication. I'm also moderately worried about needing a police auto-alert for gunfire >.>
Or maybe you wouldn't get "serves you right" looks from people when you find out you hired somebody not known for quality work (or a fly-by-night operation). How does one prove a contractor provided sub-standard work using substandard materials for something that's not supposed to exist? Would an insurance company pay for damages caused by an illegal pool mishap, be it a drowning or damages? If your neighbor sues because you flooded their home with run-off, don't you think their lawyer is going to pounce on the pool's legality to maximize what you pay them? Hell, what if you were to buy a place with an illegal pool and didn't know it? Then you're stuck with the problems and increased and unmitigated risks with it.
You realize that every country in the history of humanity has done the exact same things, right?
Not Tibet.
Tibet was a bunch of separate entities way back in the day. If and when it gets free of the Chinese government, do they get to redivide into those smaller countries? Obviously Songtsän Gampo, the guy who founded the Tibetan EMPIRE, wasn't a true Tibetan. He was just some random, outside oppressor engaged in acts of aggression against his neighbors. The earth was made and Tibet was there immediately with monks and quaint makers of handcrafted goodies for celebrity photo op types to pose with. Damn him for messing with that.
Kind of a pity, though. This can lead to greater community fracturing and security risks for the players. Even with a strong group of volunteers and leaders, getting everybody onto one alternative forum will be harder than getting everybody on to the official one. Throw in the usual exploits and such that go on with keyloggers and hacked ads.../sigh.
Actually, this project is to find trolls and their online kin. Who better to send on long duration trips than those that already hate the sun, don't mind "alternative hygiene", live on processed foods and can shirk off a lack of real sex for years at a time?
I make it a point to avoid any forum identity that could be easliy traced back to my real name, because stuff comes back to haunt you. Do you really want somehting you said 20 years ago in some gaming forum to come up in a job interview?
In that case, either:
1) Don't be a jack-ass on the Blizzard forums.
2) Don't use the Blizzard forums.
That said, I've given my screen name which I've used for the last decade as part of a background check for an interview, so I'm well aware of the issue. However, nothing I said in the past (I've said a lot of stupid stuff) was an issue. If it is a concern to you, don't use the forums (it's an optional part of an optional game you play, you can deal with it), or simply police your behavior before it is recorded for all posterity on the Intertubes.
It'd be safer to do the second option. While your first suggestion is good, times change. What's fine now may not be 20 something years down the road (or even next week). Today's upright, model citizen can be dragged through the mud later on without any misspeaks if future interpretations or values change enough.
But that's just carrying on the tradition of Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, etc, etc... Granted, the government is involved in so much crap it's hard to know what's not working right until it busts. That's probably one of the better arguments for small government out there (the other being state/federal employee unions).
Sort of, yeah. GS has had all that press about conflict of interest investing, but I can guarantee they still have new customers coming in at all levels. Googling information about a company's track record, transparency of fees and BBB/trade-publication reviews can help too. I'm sure there are other/. better able to teach how a consumer (individual or larger) can try weeding out crappy companies for given needs.
The best example I can think of for/. would be Carley Fiorina and her history with HP. I'd be surprised if anybody though McCain picking her to help out with his campaign was a good move when both parties were chanting various "Main street over Wall street" slogans.
It's not the diabolic talent of the customers to refuse to learn more about their money or who handles it? I'm sure most of their customers are only so because they saw a TV ad or something. It's like asking job applicants "honestly, are you a crook" rather than finding out how to do a proper background check.
SECsafeporn.com will have only the best available porn, for free, and certainly won't contain psychological manipulation techniques to increase my personal future profits.
As a side note, this is only further proof that hard working strippers and prostitutes are being downsized due to the electronic age catching up to their profession. I, for one, think this is outrageous and plan to visit my local establishments this weekend to show my support. Hopefully we can help prepare them financially for the outsourcing that's undoubtedly coming.
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Except if it's inspected and passed, the contractor and inspector can probably be held liable as well.
I highly doubt it. Especially since we don't know why it happened or even whether or not 'unlicensed' even had any bearing on it. E.g. if someone backed into it with a truck, the whole thing would be irrelevant.
As in "the person with the truck would have to pay for the damages", or were you going someplace else with that?
But all that is irrelevant to the person whose property is damaged.
The proper reason for a lawsuit is to recover actual damages, not treat every accident like a lottery ticket.
I agree with you on both points. Still, as the person paying the damages, you'd want to be able to pass on those expenses to the contractor if they did shoddy work or have insurance pay for as much as you gotten coverage of. And while the people might not be looking to sue you into oblivion, if they can't afford a lawyer straight out, they'll probably hire one that'll take a cut of whatever you pay out. That lawyer will certainly make sure the case is worth their time. Even if they're nice about it, the final cost will be much more just the damages when you factor in your lawyer fees, theirs and even a fair amount for damages.
Please mod informative. Just curious what state/towns are at this level of sophistication. I'm also moderately worried about needing a police auto-alert for gunfire >.>
Or maybe you wouldn't get "serves you right" looks from people when you find out you hired somebody not known for quality work (or a fly-by-night operation). How does one prove a contractor provided sub-standard work using substandard materials for something that's not supposed to exist? Would an insurance company pay for damages caused by an illegal pool mishap, be it a drowning or damages? If your neighbor sues because you flooded their home with run-off, don't you think their lawyer is going to pounce on the pool's legality to maximize what you pay them? Hell, what if you were to buy a place with an illegal pool and didn't know it? Then you're stuck with the problems and increased and unmitigated risks with it.
NSFW and only slightly off topic :P
http://sexylosers.com/202.html
Maybe I can trade that in for one of the .xxx domains! YES!!
You realize that every country in the history of humanity has done the exact same things, right?
Not Tibet.
Tibet was a bunch of separate entities way back in the day. If and when it gets free of the Chinese government, do they get to redivide into those smaller countries? Obviously Songtsän Gampo, the guy who founded the Tibetan EMPIRE, wasn't a true Tibetan. He was just some random, outside oppressor engaged in acts of aggression against his neighbors. The earth was made and Tibet was there immediately with monks and quaint makers of handcrafted goodies for celebrity photo op types to pose with. Damn him for messing with that.
That MMO that banned people playing characters of differing genders..
I don't want to risk sharing a ship with telephone sanitizers.
Kind of a pity, though. This can lead to greater community fracturing and security risks for the players. Even with a strong group of volunteers and leaders, getting everybody onto one alternative forum will be harder than getting everybody on to the official one. Throw in the usual exploits and such that go on with keyloggers and hacked ads... /sigh.
Actually, this project is to find trolls and their online kin. Who better to send on long duration trips than those that already hate the sun, don't mind "alternative hygiene", live on processed foods and can shirk off a lack of real sex for years at a time?
/. is next >.>
Oh shit.
I make it a point to avoid any forum identity that could be easliy traced back to my real name, because stuff comes back to haunt you. Do you really want somehting you said 20 years ago in some gaming forum to come up in a job interview?
In that case, either: 1) Don't be a jack-ass on the Blizzard forums. 2) Don't use the Blizzard forums.
That said, I've given my screen name which I've used for the last decade as part of a background check for an interview, so I'm well aware of the issue. However, nothing I said in the past (I've said a lot of stupid stuff) was an issue. If it is a concern to you, don't use the forums (it's an optional part of an optional game you play, you can deal with it), or simply police your behavior before it is recorded for all posterity on the Intertubes.
It'd be safer to do the second option. While your first suggestion is good, times change. What's fine now may not be 20 something years down the road (or even next week). Today's upright, model citizen can be dragged through the mud later on without any misspeaks if future interpretations or values change enough.
But that's just carrying on the tradition of Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, etc, etc... Granted, the government is involved in so much crap it's hard to know what's not working right until it busts. That's probably one of the better arguments for small government out there (the other being state/federal employee unions).
Sort of, yeah. GS has had all that press about conflict of interest investing, but I can guarantee they still have new customers coming in at all levels. Googling information about a company's track record, transparency of fees and BBB/trade-publication reviews can help too. I'm sure there are other /. better able to teach how a consumer (individual or larger) can try weeding out crappy companies for given needs.
/. would be Carley Fiorina and her history with HP. I'd be surprised if anybody though McCain picking her to help out with his campaign was a good move when both parties were chanting various "Main street over Wall street" slogans.
The best example I can think of for
It's not the diabolic talent of the customers to refuse to learn more about their money or who handles it? I'm sure most of their customers are only so because they saw a TV ad or something. It's like asking job applicants "honestly, are you a crook" rather than finding out how to do a proper background check.
Wow. I hear a best selling demotivator poster in the works.
Go sue your local church. Those are all listed under "Acts of god" and the appointed local representatives were withholding information.
So is this a good time to invest in California calrose growers?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc
Harry Whittington got shot 4 years ago and they're only fixing his face now?
Freecycle.org would have been better.
SECsafeporn.com will have only the best available porn, for free, and certainly won't contain psychological manipulation techniques to increase my personal future profits.
As a side note, this is only further proof that hard working strippers and prostitutes are being downsized due to the electronic age catching up to their profession. I, for one, think this is outrageous and plan to visit my local establishments this weekend to show my support. Hopefully we can help prepare them financially for the outsourcing that's undoubtedly coming.
Did Lisa get this idea after watching Robin Hood: Men in tights?
No feedback to give. I just saw all the *rats and had to say hi.
Pulling a Leroy Jenkins on your friends is simply not the same as having them attacked by rabid ninja gerbils. For one thing, they still have hope.