I acutally commented about that below, but no cable or satellite for me. And keep mind that I said, "I don't pay for nonprint media that wastes my time with commercials." I don't really mind product placement as long as it doesn't interrupt things. For example, I did pay for Jet Moto on the Playstation and regularly pay for NFL games. Product placement galore but not in a way that I have to stop what I'm doing and watch/listen to an advert. That's the biggest reason I don't mind advertisements in newspapers, magazines, etc. I can easily skip them.
I'll take that wager. I don't pay for cable or satellite. I used to have a Dish but I got rid of it two years ago and aside from the occasional football game, haven't really missed it. I do assume that I am in a serious minority judging by the reaction I got when I told the Dish rep that I was dropping service and replacing it with nothing.
I have caught myself watching more TV shows lately with iTunes, that AOL TV thing, and free streaming offered by some networks but it's still an occasional thing instead of the habit it used to be.
"Talk about hypocritical, you are not choosing Sirius because they have Howard but you will go with XM when they have Opie and Andy which are just as bad as Howard."
I've been looking into both XM and Sirius lately. I have no idea who Opie and Andy are or that they were on XM. For the GP to say that he doesn't want to "patronize a service that promotes that kind of programming" is perfectly valid since XM obviously isn't doing enough to promote them (emphasis mine).
I don't care one way or the other about Howard Stern. What I do care about is spending $13 per month to listen to radio with commercials and without my favorite talk show (Clark Howard). As such, I'll just keep my regular car antennae. I don't pay for nonprint media that wastes my time with commercials. I can get that for free.
Why did you begin job hunting so long after graduation? That's the first thing I'd notice. As an HR deparment, I'd think you either couldn't land a job in that time or were already fired once and haven't dislosed it. There's nothing you can do about it now but that's something to think about.
Did you send 50 or 60 different resumes to these 50 or 60 different companies? You should always tailor your resume to each and every company. Make sure you don't waste resume space on things they don't care about. If the job listing doesn't mention C#, the don't waste HR's time by putting C# on your resume for them. And do a cover letter for each and every resume you send out. Make sure that letter focuses first on how you can be an asset to them and secondly on how much you would like to work with them.
Then call them. Call them early in the process and call them every time they say you should hear back from them. This is so important because you can get feedback on why they're not persuing you as a candidate. If you hear the same reasons over and over, you know that you need to fix something.
How sub-3.0 is you GPA? Surely you're not putting the GPA on your resume at under 3.0?
If your shyness is getting in the way of effectively job hunting, then you my need to consult a doctor. I had a friend in that situation and the doctor prescribed him an antidepressant to get him through the anxiety he experienced due to his shyness (there's a term for that and I forget what it is).
I'm 27 and I use paper quite a bit. I too am a programmer and I don't use paper for the heck of it, but when it's more convenient I'll opt for paper every time. Sometimes I'll print out a reference sheet for an API (or subsection of an API) I'm not familiar with so I can thumb through it without having to tab out of whatever editor I'm running. I also make extensive use of scratch paper when debugging. It's just faster than tabbing back and forth between a scratch pad and an editor. When it comes down to it, I have this massive desk compared to either my one or two monitor setup. If I don't get the screen real estate I need, I won't hesitate to print out things that transalte well to print and have them available on my desk.
"How is reading paper easier on the eyes than reading a TFT LCD? Answer? it isn't"
You forget about contrast. Try reading a newspaper in bight daylight vs. reading a TFT in bright daylight. Paper is a LOT easier to make out in outdoor conditions.
(And I would make a harmless joke about your neices and nephews using fewer books in school because they're not learning as much but I just couldn't craft something funny enough in the time I have here.)
I'm not surprised it didn't make the final cut but in the honorable mentions, the Tengen version of Tetris for the NES deserves a nod.
And that Battlesphere isn't on here makes me scratch my head but someone else already brought that up.
And finally, what on earth is "1990 Nintendo World Championships"? "but gamers everywhere know very well of it's existence." (Except for me apparently.)
"Who would you rather hire; A fresh college graduate, or someone with 4 years of experience but no college diploma?"
The better candidate. That might be the college grad or it might be the person with 4 years experience but without learning more about each, it's impossible to tell.
"Decision made to NOT accept an exchange or return on the product as it was "FILM" for digital cameras and had been opened and "used" (again, my camera uses CF and can't write to SD.)"
That surprises me because I've returned actual opened camcorder tapes before (wrong type but wife didn't know that until she tried to pop in a tape) and they've accepted them. They did try to refuse refund at first but after I asked them to point out where it said I couldn't return opened film on the big board of return policies behind them, they relented. I did also have them once try to not take a DVD burner because it came with blank DVDs and they tried to call that "software" but that didn't get very far once I got a manager over there. Most of the time, they take back pretty much anything and everything. I've even gotten them to exchange open software and then take back the exchange for a refund (not at one sitting but the same person at one store).
Then again, some Wal-Marts are just more friendly to returns than others. A general rule I go by is that the more a location has to deal with theft, the less friendly they are on returns.
As another interesting return story, I get a new marine battery for my boat every year from Wal-Mart. There's a one year warranty on their cheap batteries so I bought a marine battery from them for my boat about 6 years ago and just always return it before the expiration. They don't even ask questions.
"Back at home I took the card to Target, said it was non-functional (of course I didn't give them the wal-mart receipt.) They issued a store credit and I bought a larger CF card using the gift-card and additional funds."
Good to see Target go to bat for you. They do seem to have more knowledgeable staff so they wouldn't be as apt to consider a flash disk as film. Glad they helped you out.
"The prices are okay on most things but the people...don't get me started."
I am well aware of the personnel factor at Wal-Mart. Figuring out the times of day and days of the week when the customer service desk is not busy is an art form. And just because they're not busy doesn't mean it will be fast service.
"Bullshit. Neither in your original post nor your replies to me have you stated any sort of reasoning that in any way resembles this statement."
I can see why you don't think I have a lick of logical reasoning if you're reading comprehension is so bad that you can't piece a very obvious summary from it's source elements so I'll break it down for you here. First let's look at the title of the original post: "Don't look at what they say..." Then I go right on to say "Look at what Sony is doing instead of what they're saying." Then (and here's the kicker) I go on to say "I'd say that Sony is very worried about the competition. If not, then they wouldn't be trying to copy their functionality." (hence, what they are "doing") Considering that the given topic of conversaion in this thread is about how Sony is not worrying about the competition when it probably should be, my summary of "I'm pointing out that the way Sony is copying Microsoft and Nintendo leads me to believe that Sony is worried about both more than they are letting on," is quite accurate.
I did in my next post go on to explain further in detail how Sony is copying from their competitors and even mentioned that it's not neccessarily a bad thing (A point that doesn't fit your assessment of my statements so you've decided to conveniently ignore it. Don't think I didn't notice). And then a third reply restating my original opinion which you refuse to accept from your extreme desire to gain some sort of credibility from an argument you've very obviously lost.
"This is due in part to the totally free-standing nature of the controller."
Or you could just slap a security tag on there like they do with every other small item they have that can be stolen. Or even have a security cable like places used to do with TV remote controls. What Wal-Mart wants, Wal-Mart gets. If they're not getting the interactive kiosks in, I'd wager the #1 reason is that they don't want them.
I buy all my new electronics hardware at Wal-Mart and for very good reason: return policy. I personally prefer Target but even their return policy leaves something to be desired when compared to Wal-Mart. PSP has a dead pixel? Not a problem. Just not happy with that new console? Not a problem. $1000 TV acting funny on you and don't want to deal with the warranty process? Not a problem. Full refund. I'm not the biggest fan of Wal-Mart but they really stick up for you when it comes to big ticket items being returned for refund/exchange. I would actually pay a little bit more to buy most electronics hardware from Wal-Mart (except for computers and laptops which I buy from Costco or Sams Club who each have massive 6 month return policies on those items).
What organization upgrades Office and Windows at the same time? Are the older versions of Office not going to run on Vista or am I missing something? Last I was in charge of tech support, even though our University contract got us the latest software cheap (from a departmental perspective), we were always very leery about deploying one piece of new software. Deploying two new pieces of software at or near the same time sounds like you're asking for trouble. I could see that firgure being accurate in such a case because of the sheer amount of tech support you're wishing upon yourselves.
Is Google going to be backing up the true and false statements with sources? Furthermore, what sources are they going to use? How will they evaluate statements that are viewed as true by some sources but false by others? I don't know about you guys but I don't exactly trust Google to give me some sort of percentage true or false without justifying their position. I also don't entirely trust Google not to abuse such a position. Often the truth is what you make of it and I'm not so sure I'll buy into Google-branded truth. I think that researching what the politicians say yourself is your best line of defense in determining how much they lie.
I'm not the one throwing out proanity and comparing a ripped off controller design to biological reproduction because I can come up with no better defense. There is someone here sounding like a 7 year old and I'm pretty sure it's not me.
"Pointing out how some corporation is doing something similar to another corporation by saying ZOMG COPYING is unnecessary and stupid."
And that's not what I'm doing. I'm pointing out that the way Sony is copying Microsoft and Nintendo leads me to believe that Sony is worried about both more than they are letting on. I've also pointed out that Sony's plan of attack isn't neccessarily a bad one.
"$300 is a lot of money for a gaming system for most families and it will take years for the PS3 to be $300."
Not from Sony's perspective. As far as Sony is concerned, once the PS3 is out there people will adopt BluRay en masse (ignoring that such an adoption would require most of those people to fork over more for a new HDTV than they just spent on a PS3). Then BluRay discs and players would drop considerably in price due to production numbers and the PS3 becomes a whole lot cheaper to make almost overnight. They can hit $300 within a year with the mass adoption of BluRay and a constantly improving yield rate from Cell chip manufacturing.
I doubt that's going to happen but that's the gamble Sony has made and they're going to keep riding that bet until BluRay is tossed next to BetaMax and MiniDisc on the ash heap of consumer electronics history.
Sony is not completely crazy. It just appears that way because on one small delusional thought in their heads.
"Next you'll be saying that Microsoft "copied" other console makers with the Xbox because it outputs to a TV."
If consoles historically had their own intergrated monitor and company X made a killing off of selling a console that output to TV instead and then in response, Company Y also made a console outputting to the TV, then I would most certainly accuse Company Y of copying.
Online gaming services for consoles have been around for at least a decade. In the US, XBox managed to have the first successful one. On the very next release of a console, Sony has finally decided to put a lot of effort towards one. That is copying.
And of all the things Sony could've placed in their controller after having to remove the rumble I find it hard to believe that Sony independently decided on the EXACT SAME thing Nintendo is putting in their new console. That is also copying.
That being said, copying isn't neccessarily a bad thing. Being reactive instead of proactive in terms of hardware is historically a smart idea. The first console hardware of its kind rarely does well commercially. It's typically better to let someone else take all the risk and copy their idea after they get it working. That Sony didn't even do that when copying Nintendo's controller gimmick tells me that they are indeed scared of what Nintendo could bring to the table with the Wii.
Zip files? What is this, the late 90's? OpenOffice is distrubuted by default in an executable package format from their openoffice.org website. From the main page, you're about 3 very obvious clicks away from download. The only thing that will keep people from using OO instead is a lack of knowledge. Most people don't know OO exists but everyone who shops at Tesco will know about their office suite.
Look at what Sony is doing instead of what they're saying. Considering the Sony will have some sort of online system to replicate XBox live and their sixasses controller that sounds an awful like a Wiimote crossed with a Dual Shock, I'd say that Sony is very worried about the competition. If not, then they wouldn't be trying to copy their functionality.
"Exta processing power does not always have to be about graphics... I'm getting a litle tired of the "so the graphicss aren't as good, who cares?""
It doesn't have to be but historically, that's where the extra oomph is being used. Games still have generally simplistic AIs and I haven't seen a major physics upgrade to a game in a while. The biggest non-graphics jump I've seen recently is the sheer number of simultaneous objects Call of Duty 2 keeps track of on the 360. I imagine if you cut HD out of the equation, the Wii will handle those objects just as well even with a lesser processor.
"The fact is if the PS2 and Xbox 360 are with $50 of the Wii at Wii's launch you definitely know an extra $50 is not much of a stretch."
Technically, that's an opinion not a fact. And as such, I would disagree. If the 360 is $300 and the Wii is $250 and they are similarly equipped and I'm going to buy one (as fair as I can make it to both sides), I'm getting the Wii. I'm just looking for something different this time around. Now if the Wii and its developers botch the controller's potential, then I could see reversing this decision.
I acutally commented about that below, but no cable or satellite for me. And keep mind that I said, "I don't pay for nonprint media that wastes my time with commercials." I don't really mind product placement as long as it doesn't interrupt things. For example, I did pay for Jet Moto on the Playstation and regularly pay for NFL games. Product placement galore but not in a way that I have to stop what I'm doing and watch/listen to an advert. That's the biggest reason I don't mind advertisements in newspapers, magazines, etc. I can easily skip them.
"In fact I'd wager ALL of you do."
I'll take that wager. I don't pay for cable or satellite. I used to have a Dish but I got rid of it two years ago and aside from the occasional football game, haven't really missed it. I do assume that I am in a serious minority judging by the reaction I got when I told the Dish rep that I was dropping service and replacing it with nothing.
I have caught myself watching more TV shows lately with iTunes, that AOL TV thing, and free streaming offered by some networks but it's still an occasional thing instead of the habit it used to be.
"Talk about hypocritical, you are not choosing Sirius because they have Howard but you will go with XM when they have Opie and Andy which are just as bad as Howard."
I've been looking into both XM and Sirius lately. I have no idea who Opie and Andy are or that they were on XM. For the GP to say that he doesn't want to "patronize a service that promotes that kind of programming" is perfectly valid since XM obviously isn't doing enough to promote them (emphasis mine).
I don't care one way or the other about Howard Stern. What I do care about is spending $13 per month to listen to radio with commercials and without my favorite talk show (Clark Howard). As such, I'll just keep my regular car antennae. I don't pay for nonprint media that wastes my time with commercials. I can get that for free.
Why did you begin job hunting so long after graduation? That's the first thing I'd notice. As an HR deparment, I'd think you either couldn't land a job in that time or were already fired once and haven't dislosed it. There's nothing you can do about it now but that's something to think about.
Did you send 50 or 60 different resumes to these 50 or 60 different companies? You should always tailor your resume to each and every company. Make sure you don't waste resume space on things they don't care about. If the job listing doesn't mention C#, the don't waste HR's time by putting C# on your resume for them. And do a cover letter for each and every resume you send out. Make sure that letter focuses first on how you can be an asset to them and secondly on how much you would like to work with them.
Then call them. Call them early in the process and call them every time they say you should hear back from them. This is so important because you can get feedback on why they're not persuing you as a candidate. If you hear the same reasons over and over, you know that you need to fix something.
How sub-3.0 is you GPA? Surely you're not putting the GPA on your resume at under 3.0?
If your shyness is getting in the way of effectively job hunting, then you my need to consult a doctor. I had a friend in that situation and the doctor prescribed him an antidepressant to get him through the anxiety he experienced due to his shyness (there's a term for that and I forget what it is).
"Now finding any bad news about Nintendo is hard because of the number of fanboys out there..."
And the people who don't post links to such news when they do find it. Do you have any sources for the controller issues?
As long as it's not front-loading like the NES we should have nothing to worry about. Wait a minute... D'OH!
The Year 2000 also wants its joke back too when you're done with it.
No, the Tenth Planet would be Mondas. Just watch out for the Cybermen if you go there.
I'm 27 and I use paper quite a bit. I too am a programmer and I don't use paper for the heck of it, but when it's more convenient I'll opt for paper every time. Sometimes I'll print out a reference sheet for an API (or subsection of an API) I'm not familiar with so I can thumb through it without having to tab out of whatever editor I'm running. I also make extensive use of scratch paper when debugging. It's just faster than tabbing back and forth between a scratch pad and an editor. When it comes down to it, I have this massive desk compared to either my one or two monitor setup. If I don't get the screen real estate I need, I won't hesitate to print out things that transalte well to print and have them available on my desk.
"How is reading paper easier on the eyes than reading a TFT LCD? Answer? it isn't"
You forget about contrast. Try reading a newspaper in bight daylight vs. reading a TFT in bright daylight. Paper is a LOT easier to make out in outdoor conditions.
(And I would make a harmless joke about your neices and nephews using fewer books in school because they're not learning as much but I just couldn't craft something funny enough in the time I have here.)
I'm not surprised it didn't make the final cut but in the honorable mentions, the Tengen version of Tetris for the NES deserves a nod.
And that Battlesphere isn't on here makes me scratch my head but someone else already brought that up.
And finally, what on earth is "1990 Nintendo World Championships"?
"but gamers everywhere know very well of it's existence." (Except for me apparently.)
"Who would you rather hire; A fresh college graduate, or someone with 4 years of experience but no college diploma?"
The better candidate. That might be the college grad or it might be the person with 4 years experience but without learning more about each, it's impossible to tell.
I thought he killed himself after he became an oil baron? What's he doing alive and working for Microsoft?
"Decision made to NOT accept an exchange or return on the product as it was "FILM" for digital cameras and had been opened and "used" (again, my camera uses CF and can't write to SD.)"
That surprises me because I've returned actual opened camcorder tapes before (wrong type but wife didn't know that until she tried to pop in a tape) and they've accepted them. They did try to refuse refund at first but after I asked them to point out where it said I couldn't return opened film on the big board of return policies behind them, they relented. I did also have them once try to not take a DVD burner because it came with blank DVDs and they tried to call that "software" but that didn't get very far once I got a manager over there. Most of the time, they take back pretty much anything and everything. I've even gotten them to exchange open software and then take back the exchange for a refund (not at one sitting but the same person at one store).
Then again, some Wal-Marts are just more friendly to returns than others. A general rule I go by is that the more a location has to deal with theft, the less friendly they are on returns.
As another interesting return story, I get a new marine battery for my boat every year from Wal-Mart. There's a one year warranty on their cheap batteries so I bought a marine battery from them for my boat about 6 years ago and just always return it before the expiration. They don't even ask questions.
"Back at home I took the card to Target, said it was non-functional (of course I didn't give them the wal-mart receipt.) They issued a store credit and I bought a larger CF card using the gift-card and additional funds."
Good to see Target go to bat for you. They do seem to have more knowledgeable staff so they wouldn't be as apt to consider a flash disk as film. Glad they helped you out.
"The prices are okay on most things but the people...don't get me started."
I am well aware of the personnel factor at Wal-Mart. Figuring out the times of day and days of the week when the customer service desk is not busy is an art form. And just because they're not busy doesn't mean it will be fast service.
"Bullshit. Neither in your original post nor your replies to me have you stated any sort of reasoning that in any way resembles this statement."
I can see why you don't think I have a lick of logical reasoning if you're reading comprehension is so bad that you can't piece a very obvious summary from it's source elements so I'll break it down for you here. First let's look at the title of the original post: "Don't look at what they say..." Then I go right on to say "Look at what Sony is doing instead of what they're saying." Then (and here's the kicker) I go on to say "I'd say that Sony is very worried about the competition. If not, then they wouldn't be trying to copy their functionality." (hence, what they are "doing") Considering that the given topic of conversaion in this thread is about how Sony is not worrying about the competition when it probably should be, my summary of "I'm pointing out that the way Sony is copying Microsoft and Nintendo leads me to believe that Sony is worried about both more than they are letting on," is quite accurate.
I did in my next post go on to explain further in detail how Sony is copying from their competitors and even mentioned that it's not neccessarily a bad thing (A point that doesn't fit your assessment of my statements so you've decided to conveniently ignore it. Don't think I didn't notice). And then a third reply restating my original opinion which you refuse to accept from your extreme desire to gain some sort of credibility from an argument you've very obviously lost.
"This is due in part to the totally free-standing nature of the controller."
Or you could just slap a security tag on there like they do with every other small item they have that can be stolen. Or even have a security cable like places used to do with TV remote controls. What Wal-Mart wants, Wal-Mart gets. If they're not getting the interactive kiosks in, I'd wager the #1 reason is that they don't want them.
I hear that Damark will be handling the print version of their catalog.
I buy all my new electronics hardware at Wal-Mart and for very good reason: return policy. I personally prefer Target but even their return policy leaves something to be desired when compared to Wal-Mart. PSP has a dead pixel? Not a problem. Just not happy with that new console? Not a problem. $1000 TV acting funny on you and don't want to deal with the warranty process? Not a problem. Full refund. I'm not the biggest fan of Wal-Mart but they really stick up for you when it comes to big ticket items being returned for refund/exchange. I would actually pay a little bit more to buy most electronics hardware from Wal-Mart (except for computers and laptops which I buy from Costco or Sams Club who each have massive 6 month return policies on those items).
What organization upgrades Office and Windows at the same time? Are the older versions of Office not going to run on Vista or am I missing something? Last I was in charge of tech support, even though our University contract got us the latest software cheap (from a departmental perspective), we were always very leery about deploying one piece of new software. Deploying two new pieces of software at or near the same time sounds like you're asking for trouble. I could see that firgure being accurate in such a case because of the sheer amount of tech support you're wishing upon yourselves.
Is Google going to be backing up the true and false statements with sources? Furthermore, what sources are they going to use? How will they evaluate statements that are viewed as true by some sources but false by others? I don't know about you guys but I don't exactly trust Google to give me some sort of percentage true or false without justifying their position. I also don't entirely trust Google not to abuse such a position. Often the truth is what you make of it and I'm not so sure I'll buy into Google-branded truth. I think that researching what the politicians say yourself is your best line of defense in determining how much they lie.
"you just sound like a 7-year-old."
I'm not the one throwing out proanity and comparing a ripped off controller design to biological reproduction because I can come up with no better defense. There is someone here sounding like a 7 year old and I'm pretty sure it's not me.
"Pointing out how some corporation is doing something similar to another corporation by saying ZOMG COPYING is unnecessary and stupid."
And that's not what I'm doing. I'm pointing out that the way Sony is copying Microsoft and Nintendo leads me to believe that Sony is worried about both more than they are letting on. I've also pointed out that Sony's plan of attack isn't neccessarily a bad one.
"$300 is a lot of money for a gaming system for most families and it will take years for the PS3 to be $300."
Not from Sony's perspective. As far as Sony is concerned, once the PS3 is out there people will adopt BluRay en masse (ignoring that such an adoption would require most of those people to fork over more for a new HDTV than they just spent on a PS3). Then BluRay discs and players would drop considerably in price due to production numbers and the PS3 becomes a whole lot cheaper to make almost overnight. They can hit $300 within a year with the mass adoption of BluRay and a constantly improving yield rate from Cell chip manufacturing.
I doubt that's going to happen but that's the gamble Sony has made and they're going to keep riding that bet until BluRay is tossed next to BetaMax and MiniDisc on the ash heap of consumer electronics history.
Sony is not completely crazy. It just appears that way because on one small delusional thought in their heads.
"Next you'll be saying that Microsoft "copied" other console makers with the Xbox because it outputs to a TV."
If consoles historically had their own intergrated monitor and company X made a killing off of selling a console that output to TV instead and then in response, Company Y also made a console outputting to the TV, then I would most certainly accuse Company Y of copying.
Online gaming services for consoles have been around for at least a decade. In the US, XBox managed to have the first successful one. On the very next release of a console, Sony has finally decided to put a lot of effort towards one. That is copying.
And of all the things Sony could've placed in their controller after having to remove the rumble I find it hard to believe that Sony independently decided on the EXACT SAME thing Nintendo is putting in their new console. That is also copying.
That being said, copying isn't neccessarily a bad thing. Being reactive instead of proactive in terms of hardware is historically a smart idea. The first console hardware of its kind rarely does well commercially. It's typically better to let someone else take all the risk and copy their idea after they get it working. That Sony didn't even do that when copying Nintendo's controller gimmick tells me that they are indeed scared of what Nintendo could bring to the table with the Wii.
Zip files? What is this, the late 90's? OpenOffice is distrubuted by default in an executable package format from their openoffice.org website. From the main page, you're about 3 very obvious clicks away from download. The only thing that will keep people from using OO instead is a lack of knowledge. Most people don't know OO exists but everyone who shops at Tesco will know about their office suite.
Look at what Sony is doing instead of what they're saying. Considering the Sony will have some sort of online system to replicate XBox live and their sixasses controller that sounds an awful like a Wiimote crossed with a Dual Shock, I'd say that Sony is very worried about the competition. If not, then they wouldn't be trying to copy their functionality.
"Exta processing power does not always have to be about graphics... I'm getting a litle tired of the "so the graphicss aren't as good, who cares?""
It doesn't have to be but historically, that's where the extra oomph is being used. Games still have generally simplistic AIs and I haven't seen a major physics upgrade to a game in a while. The biggest non-graphics jump I've seen recently is the sheer number of simultaneous objects Call of Duty 2 keeps track of on the 360. I imagine if you cut HD out of the equation, the Wii will handle those objects just as well even with a lesser processor.
"The fact is if the PS2 and Xbox 360 are with $50 of the Wii at Wii's launch you definitely know an extra $50 is not much of a stretch."
Technically, that's an opinion not a fact. And as such, I would disagree. If the 360 is $300 and the Wii is $250 and they are similarly equipped and I'm going to buy one (as fair as I can make it to both sides), I'm getting the Wii. I'm just looking for something different this time around. Now if the Wii and its developers botch the controller's potential, then I could see reversing this decision.