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Wii Pre-Orders at EB Games and Gamestop

Punkster812 writes "Tomorrow, Friday October 13th, EB Games and Gamestop will begin taking pre-orders. They say they have very limited numbers and will do a first come first serve. A $50 deposit is the minimum down payment for a console and they suggest for you to call your local store for availability. Their online pre-order information will be released at a future date. For full information, visit EB Games or Gamestop for full details."

233 comments

  1. A little late by Given+M.+Sur · · Score: 1

    Well, Friday is today, not tomorrow.

    I'm actually about to leave in a minute to go wait in front of Gamestop just to make sure I get one. Hopefully an hour early is enough. I'm sure it will be, but you never know.

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    1. Re:A little late by peetola · · Score: 1

      I remember going to a Best Buy the day before the XBox 360 was released. There were about 15 people camped out in sleeping bags and anything to keep them warm through a cold November Minnesota night. I swear, you can save hundreds of dollars and the risk of hypothermia if you can just wait a few weeks.

    2. Re:A little late by Eccles · · Score: 1

      Yes, but the guy in the office next to me made over $1500 selling Xbox260s on ebay last year. That would be worth an overnight to many...

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    3. Re:A little late by SoapDish · · Score: 1
      Yes, but the guy in the office next to me made over $1500 selling Xbox260s on ebay last year.


      People actually fell for an XBox 260?
    4. Re:A little late by Eccles · · Score: 1

      make that Xbox360, not 260...

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    5. Re:A little late by steveo777 · · Score: 1

      I figured you just meant they were Core systems. haha!

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    6. Re:A little late by wc_paladin · · Score: 1

      an hour wasn't early enough for me :(

    7. Re:A little late by Hott+of+the+World · · Score: 1

      Haha! I got there at 10:04. 14th preorder! Woot!

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    8. Re:A little late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While you're at the typos you should have called it Xbox640K

    9. Re:A little late by APLowman · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I submitted this as a story yesterday as well; however, I made sure not to use the word "tomorrow" in case it did get posted.

    10. Re:A little late by Fozzyuw · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, I got my email yesterday. I went 1.5 hours early. I was 4th in line at my store. Had to wait in about 25F weather. (wind at 35MPH, yuck).

      However, our store had about a 16 limit on orders. We started about 15mins to 10:00am and they where all gone by 10:00am.

      I am glad I have mine. Though, I'm surprised orders are so low, given Nintendos statements of a large number of orders available. I would guess Wal-Mart or BestBuy might be getting large quantities.

      Cheers,
      Fozzy

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    11. Re:A little late by APLowman · · Score: 1

      I got one too. I went at 6am and the store opened at 10am, mine gave out 27 and let 3 employees get one. I was second in line, the next person did not arrive until 7am; the first person was there at 5am.

    12. Re:A little late by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Target had a pretty big area of shelf space when I was there a week ago.

      Just empty shelf that said Nintendo Wii at the top.

      I bet they are getting a large handful, since it was the first display I have seen for the Wii anywhere (including Gamestop).

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    13. Re:A little late by kinglink · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing it wouldn't be. We have two EBs in this town. The mall one was filled up by 7:50 or so. The one in "campus town" with the line in the wind filled up at 8:40.

      And I was there at the second at 8:35.

      This thing went FAST.

      First store had 8 preorders (4 orders for employees), second store had 14.

    14. Re:A little late by Given+M.+Sur · · Score: 1

      Well, it turned out to be fine. I showed up at 9:04, was 5th in line (with eight available pre-orders). The 6th guy didn't show up until 9:50, the 7th at 10:00. And by the time I left at 10:30 an 8th guy still hadn't shown up.

      So, I guess it really depends on which store you go to.

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    15. Re:A little late by kinglink · · Score: 1

      Glad to hear it worked out for both of us.

      I found it funny the one out of the ice Illinois wind lined up so much faster then the one in the wind but by the campus town. Around 30 people showed up by the end but most weren't even there til 9:30 and most knew there was only 15 systems. Oh well, better luck next time for them.

      In all seriousness though I think this was by far a worse debaticle than the 360 because it just smacks of Gamestop forcing people to buy the bundles that are about to appear on the website. In addition my preorder is IF they get 13 systems at that store. If they get 8 at each store, only 8 will be handed out? To me it sounds unfair because the people who buy the bundle will likely get one before the people at the store will be confirmed one even though they bought one first. Hopefully nothing will go wrong and there'll be enough but who gets the shaft first if something goes wrong?

    16. Re:A little late by Fozzyuw · · Score: 1

      And for all those interested, I asked the store manage how his PS3 sales went... he said it took the entire day, but he reserved them all. Except he had 2x or 3x as many people on the 'call' list but all said "'nah" when they where confirmed it was $600.

      Is price really going to kill the PS3? For me, I scoff at the idea of paying that much. Particularly when I'm not interested in converting my movie library from DVD to blue-ray (or if Blue-Ray will out last HD-DVD, though I think it will) and I'm not interested in HD-TV connections as I don't own a HD-TV and don't plan on getting one until I need to get a new TV. *cross fingers* which I hope will still be a few years into the future.

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  2. tomorrow? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow, good thing I have tomorrow off. I guess I'll get up early and go sit in front of Gamestop.

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    1. Re:tomorrow? by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 1

      Dude, you'll be too late.

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    2. Re:tomorrow? by spacemky · · Score: 1

      cool dude. See you when you get over here. The crowd here is amazing!

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    3. Re:tomorrow? by justinbach · · Score: 1

      Man, you think you're kidding--apparently people were lined up all night to PREORDER outside of EB games at the Cambridgeside Galleria, in Boston. There go my odds of getting one on the 19th... I've only got one thing to say: super-wiik!

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    4. Re:Tomorrow? by SoapDish · · Score: 3, Funny

      That comment is particularly funny considering your sig.

    5. Re:tomorrow? by MikeTheMan · · Score: 1

      Heh, oh wait, that's TODAY. Oops. Looks like I won't be getting a Wii til '08 then...

    6. Re:tomorrow? by B1 · · Score: 1

      A coworker and I walked over to the local EBGames about 15 minutes before they opened. There were three people in line before us. About 10 - 15 showed up after us (right before the store opened at 10:00). There was one family that had been there since before 8:00 AM, but I saw no tents or sleeping bags :)

      Neither of us had a problem getting a reservation. I don't know what the store's allocation was, so I don't know how many people were disappointed. Alas, we both had to get back to actual work :)

      I was most impressed with how orderly the line was--there was an unspoken agreement that everybody would line up single file, and first-come-first-served.

    7. Re:tomorrow? by Miraba · · Score: 1

      Hah. I'm a few blocks away, and I was wondering whether I should go over.

    8. Re:tomorrow? by springbox · · Score: 1

      Eh? I don't see the point in preordering the Wii this early. Everyone is better off just waiting until they let you do it online. It's not like there's going to be a massive Wii shortage like there will be with the PS3.

    9. Re:tomorrow? by jamis · · Score: 1

      There were two people in line when I showed up at my local Gamestop (the new one in Leominster, MA) at 9:30.

      By the time the store opened there were 6 people total for the pre-order.

      One of the guys at the store said a few days ago they were expecting upwards of 20 units.

    10. Re:tomorrow? by SuperRob · · Score: 1

      Apparently you don't read mainstream news. The Wii has been making "Top Holiday Toy" lists just about everywhere. Nintendo had a similar thing happen with the N64, where despite having plenty of units (more than expected), there were still shortages. Of course, Nintendo also dropped the price of the N64 $50 just three days before the launch, which may have contributed.

      Pre-ordering probably won't be necessary for someone willing to get up a bit early and head to a Best Buy or Walmart that Sunday morning. For people that want to sleep in a bit, you might be better off.

    11. Re:Tomorrow? by famikon · · Score: 0

      Developers, Developers! DEVELOPERS!!

  3. Tomorrow? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

    is Saturday 14th...

    Editors, Editors, Editors.

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  4. There are only 2 reasons why they are limited by falcon5768 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    1) They want to create this fake demand like they did with the DS Lite (which backfired when you could walk into any Target, ToyRUs, or Walmart and pick one up.

    Or 2) They are saving all of their shipments for overpriced bundle packs on their website, since they flat out said before summer they will only offer the Wii as a bundle pack.

    Either way it just goes to prove real gamers dont use the EB/Gamestop monopoly on game shops anyway. Ill just show up at Target or Best Buy when the Wii comes out thank you very much

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    1. Re:There are only 2 reasons why they are limited by wframe9109 · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I love how they specifically say that you aren't guaranteed a system with a deposit. What a joke. *Almost* went to get in line early... pfffff.

    2. Re:There are only 2 reasons why they are limited by BenjyD · · Score: 1

      Indeed - haven't Nintendo been saying how well Wii production is going and that they have millions more units ready for launch than they expected?

      That said, I still pre-ordered my Wii at the weekend (UK). Just like I pre-ordered my DS Lite. I'm a born-again fanboy, I can't help it.

    3. Re:There are only 2 reasons why they are limited by Kimos · · Score: 1

      They have been saying that there will be no shortage of consoles on launch. That's not what I'm worried about. I just hope I get the games and controllers I want...

      I've been trying to track down a pre-order for weeks (in Canada). No luck. EB has been taking pre-orders for weeks, but only if you trade in ten games. Future Shop is not doing pre-orders. Best Buy hasn't made a decision yet. Toys-R-Us took a small number of pre-orders right when the price was announced. And the best (read worst) part about this whole thing is that when I ask the employees why they're not doing pre-orders they make some type of reference to the "XBox incident". Thanks Microsoft, for runining it for everybody!

    4. Re:There are only 2 reasons why they are limited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Either way it just goes to prove real gamers dont use the EB/Gamestop monopoly on game shops anyway. Ill just show up at Target or Best Buy when the Wii comes out thank you very much

      Shopping at best buy or target is just the lesser of two evils, heh you make it sound so noble...

      The way I figure it, waiting in the warm mall for 25 minutes in mid october was preferable to waiting an hour outside for target or best buy in mid november. Plus, eb will probably open as early as the mall lets them so I'll have it sooner. Its safer and easier, and its not like it costs me anything more this way. I don't plan to change my mind anytime in the next month.

    5. Re:There are only 2 reasons why they are limited by Narcissus · · Score: 2, Informative

      FYI: in PEI, at least, Zellers of all places had them for pre-order about a week and a half ago. Admittedly, it wasn't the console by itself (the pre-order was for console + Zelda + Extreme Trucking) but it was definitely available.

    6. Re:There are only 2 reasons why they are limited by avirrey · · Score: 1

      With or without bottlenecks in the pipeline, selling your product on a *pre-order* basis has an added benefit. Companies can always 'test sample' their marketing groups projections thru and graphs that are generated from pre-order purchases. These vital data points help steer the production volumes so they don't both over and under shoot production. In short, the pre-order data can be vital in finding that sweet spot where you are not too much over and under demand at launch.

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    7. Re:There are only 2 reasons why they are limited by k3vlar · · Score: 1

      In a very unusual move, my local Rogers Video (rental) store was pre-ordering them almost a week ago. I grabbed one of their funny little info-pamphlets, but didn't actually place an order. I might now though, just in case.

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    8. Re:There are only 2 reasons why they are limited by Miraba · · Score: 1

      Or (3), that the stores realize that some people are willing to put down money now to not have to wait in line in November, but that it would be a bad idea if all of their copies were preordered.., thus leaving none for the people who are happy to wait in line.

    9. Re:There are only 2 reasons why they are limited by SkankinMonkey · · Score: 1

      To be fair, the DS Lite came out a long time ago in Japan and in some places is still a pain in the ass to buy because of the high demand.

      If I were running preorders I'd rather be safe than sorry.

    10. Re:There are only 2 reasons why they are limited by Gogo0 · · Score: 1

      I got my DS Lite when I was in Japan last month. They were sold out everywhere!
      I had to wait until the next big shipment a week later -the day of the FFIII launch, had to stand in line for 45min, and got the last Enamel Navy they had.

    11. Re:There are only 2 reasons why they are limited by DarkJC · · Score: 2, Informative

      EB Games Canada Scroll down, there's all the info you need.

    12. Re:There are only 2 reasons why they are limited by falcon5768 · · Score: 1

      Yes but those problems where fixed on its release in America. EB/Gamestop on the otherhand made it seem like the only way you could geti t was through pre-ordering, to the point of not allowing any not pre-ordered to be bought in their stores. Go down the street to Target and you could have 50 of them.

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    13. Re:There are only 2 reasons why they are limited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Fake demand" with the DS Lite? Okay, I don't doubt that the situation varies regionally, but it was weeks before I get find anyone with DS Lites in stock after they were released in the Seattle area. Target, Best Buy, Circuit City, GameStop, etc. were all sold out every time I checked. Eventually supply caught up with demand, but I assure you these stores weren't participating in some kind of conspiracy.

      I don't have a crystal ball or anything, but there were WAY more people lined up this morning to pre-order the Wii at my local GameStop than there were on Tuesday for the PS3. Given the only confirmed launch numbers to date (~400k PS3 and >1M Wii in North America) I expect they'll both be difficult to get initially.

      Now if the analyst claims about ramping up Wii production turn out to be true then Nintendo will catch up with demand LONG before Sony does.

    14. Re:There are only 2 reasons why they are limited by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Wait? Most people looking to buy a console at launch day go to the store that's known for selling games so you most likely don't have to show up at a less fequented store before they open. I saw a store tell people they couldn't fill all Xbox 360 preorders, walked into a less frequented store and saw a whole pile of them still available.

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    15. Re:There are only 2 reasons why they are limited by Kimos · · Score: 1

      Sad, but extremely helpful. Thank you.
      Mod parent up!

  5. Summarize, dammit! by The_Shadows · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Tomorrow, Friday October 13th"

    How simple would it have been to replace that "Tomorrow" with a [Today]? I was panicing. I thought, for a moment, it was still Thursday. That's a shock you don't want on a Friday before coffee.

    1. Re:Summarize, dammit! by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 4, Funny

      I remember an episode of Duck Tales, where the nephews (Huey, Dewey, and Louie) convinced Uncle Scrooge that the current day was Friday, rather than Thursday. (It was really Thursday.) They did this because they get their allowance on Friday, and they wanted to get it early.

      Unfortunately, Uncle Scrooge is a major businessman, and when he was convinced that it was Friday, he "corrected" everyone. Since he's so respected, everyone else was convinced it was Friday too. This caused major disruptions in financial contracts, which rippled through the economy.

      That morning, by the time the nephews got to the mall to spend their "early" allowance, the global economy had collapsed and they couldn't buy anything.

    2. Re:Summarize, dammit! by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Funny
      That morning, by the time the nephews got to the mall to spend their "early" allowance, the global economy had collapsed and they couldn't buy anything.

      Close, but not quite. The nephews really wanted a scooter, and there was a sale until Friday. Which meant that they needed to get their allowance on Thursday if they wanted to be able to afford it. Their shenanigans backfired when the store clerk was also convinced that it was Friday, and thus the sale was over.

      Oops. :)
    3. Re:Summarize, dammit! by RipTides9x · · Score: 3, Funny

      When 2 nerds argue a major plot point of a 10+ year old 30-min cartoon you know you're on Slashdot.

    4. Re:Summarize, dammit! by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 1

      While I may have forgotten that part of the episode, Scrooge *did* demand that they mark "Thursday" material as "out of date", and there was a scene later in the episode where it showed a shot of downtown, and all the electronic signs went haywire as they tried to correct for incoming contradictory, rapidly-changing information, basically screwing up the economy.

    5. Re:Summarize, dammit! by fithmo · · Score: 1

      But, to a child, not getting the toy you want is commensurate to global economic collapse.

    6. Re:Summarize, dammit! by Leviance · · Score: 1

      Cmon, that show is over 15 years old now :)

    7. Re:Summarize, dammit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Well, I suppose that's better than them arguing a minor plot point.

      Besides, everybody knows that Duck Tales just ripped the plot off from Star Trek TOS season 7, episode 12, where Kirk convinces Star Fleet Command that it's actually star date 37215 instead of 37211 so that a cease fire with the Romulans scheduled to begin on the later date would already be enacted. This allowed him to avoid court martial by getting them to order him across the neutral zone to save a group of Andorian school children and their short-skirted teachers from a star that was about to explode due to careless Klingon weapons experiments.

    8. Re:Summarize, dammit! by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      I'm not disagreeing, just correcting that part of your recollection. If you remember, the missing day not only caused the massive economic damage you mentioned, but also nearly resulted in Scrooge loosing his third-world factory and being shot. The nephews had to use their Junior Woodchuck Guide on Solar Eclipses to prove that the day was actually Thursday. Then Launchpad had to clear the clouds so they could see the Eclipse before Scrooge was shot.

      After they proved the calendar date, they almost got a second allowance out of it, too! ;D

    9. Re:Summarize, dammit! by rhizome · · Score: 1

      c'mon guys, that one's funny.

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    10. Re:Summarize, dammit! by TheoMurpse · · Score: 1
      When 2 nerds argue a major plot point of a 10+ year old 30-min cartoon you know you're on Slashdot.
      I downloaded that show off IRC, you insensitive clod! /TheoMurpse, bringing back old Slashdot memes since 2001.
    11. Re:Summarize, dammit! by Willuknight · · Score: 1

      You know, this is like the only Scrooge episode that i remember, in near perfect clarity.

      Strange how 2 others also remembered it ;D

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    12. Re:Summarize, dammit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You all know that it was Friday/Saturday right? Because one of the ways they convinced Uncle Scrooge it was SATURDAY was by watching (taped) Saturday morning cartoons.

    13. Re:Summarize, dammit! by superducktoes · · Score: 1

      You made me feel old this omrning when you brough thtat up. The boys wanted their allowence early to buy a scooter that was only on sale that day I believe

  6. That's okay, I'll pass by Megane · · Score: 1

    Nintendo has been churning these things out for, what, two or three months now? And they've said that production has been ahead of estimates?

    I expect to be able to walk into Fry's at 9AM Sunday morning and buy one with no problem, just like I did with the Gamecube. I only do pre-orders if there's some kind of cool pre-order swag, and so far I've only done that for Windwaker, when I would have happily paid the $5 deposit for the Ocarina disc anyhow, even if there wasn't a pre-order attached to it.

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    1. Re:That's okay, I'll pass by jizziknight · · Score: 1

      I agree. The only reasons to pre-order is if you get free swag or if you expect there to be a real shortage and don't want to wait another month or two for one. I did the same thing as you with Windwaker just to get the OOT/MQ disc. EBGames/Gamestop are especially stupid with pre-orders since you generally aren't promised the item on release. You're basically just buying a spot on a waiting list. I'll probably wait until after Christmas to get one, just because I'm hoping someone will be awesome enough to get me one for my birthday or Christmas.

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    2. Re:That's okay, I'll pass by Aladrin · · Score: 1

      The answer is simple. EB/Gamestop only accept pre-orders that they can 'guarantee'. They have decided that they can only guarantee this many for each of the stores. Chances are that there will be a ton of them on the shelf on launch day, and you'll be able to go pick one up. But if you want a 'guarantee' then you pre-order.

      There's nothing stopping them from opening up for additional pre-orders next week, either. They are simply being responsible to their customers and not promising what they aren't sure they can deliver.

      I applaud them for that.

      Not that it doesn't make me angry at all... There's no way I'll get a pre-order when I manage to get to the store a few hours from now. My store is 'small' and always tells me they aren't likely to get extras of things that aren't pre-ordered for normal stuff.

      And if I miss the launch, a little patience probably won't kill me. I hope.

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    3. Re:That's okay, I'll pass by milamber3 · · Score: 1

      That is not what the cleck at Gamestop told me today when I purchased my pre-order. I was pre-order number 10 for that store and he said that when they get the shipment they will fill the pre-orders in number order so as long as they got 10 I would get mine but by no means was that a guarantee they would get 10.

    4. Re:That's okay, I'll pass by APLowman · · Score: 1

      They only say that beacuse Microsoft over promised with the XBox 360 last year and really burned retailers who counted on their numbers. What it means is that GameStop "thinks" that it can fill your order, but they don't want to be responsable if they can't. In reality, while it would be nice to be guaranteed, GameStop won't do that any more because they don't want the ill will. That said, it is really nice of them to only sell what they are 90% sure they are getting, rather then taking everybody's order no matter what.

    5. Re:That's okay, I'll pass by Aladrin · · Score: 1

      Apparently the policy for hardware is different than games, then. I was told that preordering a game guaranteed that I'd get it first day.

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  7. Never is a short time by SoapDish · · Score: 1

    I was just at my local EB Games last Saturday. I asked about when Wii would go on pre-order, and I was told by everyone working there, 'Never!'

    I had no idea never actually meant 6 days.

    1. Re:Never is a short time by shotgunsaint · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow, it's time to start calling all those girls that wouldn't go out with me in High School and College. Then, when my girlfriend complains, I'm gonna claim prior commitments. "Sorry baby, I had no idea never was coming so soon."

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    2. Re:Never is a short time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, maybe your current gf said she'd never have a threesome with you and another girl.

    3. Re:Never is a short time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sometimes when adults say "never" they mean a very long time.

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  8. same wording as ps3 preorder by DinZy · · Score: 1

    The email I received from eb/gamestop had the same wording as the PS3 preorder one. Obviously they are just using the same language to get more to go out and preorder Wiis from them, but supply will not be a major issue with the Wii.

  9. Only Eight by truthsearch · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A friend just called me a few minutes ago from an EB in Westchester, NY. They're only taking 8 pre-orders. Eight. At 9am there were 10 people in line (they open at 11am). If such a small store can get a line waiting outside in the cold for hours just for pre-orders then it looks like the Wii will be a big hit. The Nintendo fan-boys are really excited, and that's going to mean great viral marketing for the Wii.

    1. Re:Only Eight by blanks · · Score: 1

      " then it looks like the Wii will be a big hit"

      No, it will be a big sale item on ebay :)

  10. Once again... by jackharrer · · Score: 1

    Every time new console, computer (especially Mac) or some fabulous game comes we have the same thing. It's not interesting anymore. It's the way companies make big hype about their product. If they really wanted to sell consoles to all customers that want them they would move release date few weeks or months. Then they would have time to manufacture all needed equipment. But the idea is different: they sell few consoles - that creates huge queues of mostly hardcore fans. If you make some interviews with them outcome is quite predictable. Shouts like "xxx is the best, and yyy sucks" are not uncommon. That's called MARKETING. Guys, I think that release of new console can be covered on Slashdot, as it is something new, something that pushes boundaries of technology. But publishing some news about taking pre-orders is pretty silly. It happens all the time, just the product is different.

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    1. Re:Once again... by chrismcdirty · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is mostly a Gamestop/EB problem. Having 2 million units for launch is not small by any means. I'm sure Best Buy, Target, Walmart, and Toys'R'Us will have plenty of stock on hand. Like many people above you said, it's probably the Gamestop/EB corporate center hoarding a ton of them to sell on their website in bundles.

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    2. Re:Once again... by HappySqurriel · · Score: 1

      Nintendo will be launching with 1,000,000 consoles which is (about) as many as they can launch with because Retail outlets do not have unlimited shelf space; on top of that Nintendo will (probably) be releasing 1.5 Million units to North America in the six weeks following the launch of the Wii.

      Personally, I don't know whether Nintendo has enough systems or whether they're going overboard and would like a pre-order to ensure that I get a system this year; if they're as motivated in real life as they seem to be online, the Hard-Core gamers are a large enough group that they could buy every Wii that is released this year.

    3. Re:Once again... by Dark+Leaper · · Score: 1

      but cheeky marketing ploys and outrageous hype are customary maritime tradition... it makes the fact of owning one worth owning one because you know there's someone out there that isn't going to be enjoying Wii Sports and Mario Galaxy on Nov. 19th.

    4. Re:Once again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think this is considered "slashdot worthy" (as if that's a high bar) because there are likely a lot of slashdot readers who would like to preorder a Wii, and who have been waiting for the opportunity to become available.

      The news here isn't "OMG, they're taking preorders! What a novel concept! Everyone should be interested!" It's, "I know a lot of you are Nintendo fanboys, and you're itching to preorder a Wii. In case you haven't been camping the EB website, they're taking preorders now."

      Expecting every story posted on Slashdot to be a general interest story is misinterpreting the whole concept of the site.

    5. Re:Once again... by IsoRashi · · Score: 1

      Does anyone remember how difficult it was to get a collector's edition of WoW pretty soon after the game went release?... Then months later, hey whaddya know, EB found a "misplaced" box of CE games and sold them on their website for hugely inflated amounts.

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    6. Re:Once again... by twistedsymphony · · Score: 2, Informative

      yup, people make a big deal over this pre-order stuff when most of the stores that sell video games don't even take pre-orders. EBgames/Gamestop are small fries compared to Walmart and Best Buy, they get only a fraction of the stock. Unless you're #1 on their pre-order list you might as well through your money in a bank and wait for a few months past launch because their console allocations are crap.

      I've found the absolute best place to get consoles on launch day are stores like Costco and Sam's Club. Most people don't think of them when they think new video games, also the membership fee turns away pretty much anyone who doesn't already have a membership. I camped out at Sam's Club for my Xbox 360 but I didn't even need to, because they had 20 units and there were only 14 people in line including myself. Most of the people only showed up about 15 minutes before they opened and NONE of them seemed the hardcore gamer types. Mostly parents or girlfriends buying them for Christmas gifts, a few of them just happened by saw the line and decided it'd be worth picking one up because of the demand. Even after my $30 membership fee, the savings from the console, controller and game I bought was about $40 so I actually paid LESS then I would have at EB or Walmart.

      I had a friend wait out at Costco which got 50 something units there were apparently only 5 or so people in line. He went back the next day and they still had 30 of them so he bought a few more to sell on ebay. Way back at the Gamecube, Xbox, and even PS2 launches the situation was essentially the same.

      Pre-ordering really only benefits the store, who basically gets your money early and at the same time prevents you from taking your business elsewhere. I had another friend who had pre-ordered his 360 at EB... about a month later he still hadn't got it, he was in Best Buy and saw that they had just got about 10 in... too bad he'd already giving all his money to EB, he had to keep waiting until THEY got stock.

    7. Re:Once again... by famikon · · Score: 0

      Mario Galaxy probably won't be a launch title :(

  11. Where are all the replies? by Wireless+Joe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Usually a Wii story has 50,000 replies before I get to see it, it's such a popular subject. Now I only see 15 after 20 minutes; I wonder where everyone's gone?

    Oh, wait.

    Drops laptop, runs to store.

    1. Re:Where are all the replies? by JohnSearle · · Score: 3, Funny

      Drops laptop, runs to store.

      I hope it was a cheap laptop.

      - John

    2. Re:Where are all the replies? by Mini-Geek · · Score: 1
      Drops laptop, runs to store.
      But you still had time to write that and click the Submit button?
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    3. Re:Where are all the replies? by BenjyD · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe he was dictating?

    4. Re:Where are all the replies? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      Well, you know what they say--only a dick tates...No wait, that's not right...

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    5. Re:Where are all the replies? by Chosen+Reject · · Score: 1

      Now that's how I like to start my mornings -- with a good laugh.

      Kudos to you, good sir.

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    6. Re:Where are all the replies? by webdev · · Score: 1

      In Seattle wireless joe, we post from our laptops as we wait outside game stops drinking coffee from the next door starbucks.

    7. Re:Where are all the replies? by SpeedyBandito · · Score: 1

      Do you think he could have meant "Camaaauuuugghhh?"

    8. Re:Where are all the replies? by famikon · · Score: 0
      no no no ..

      it goes "please use the word Dictate in a sentance"

      "And then I said to the bitch, 'How does my dictate?!'"

  12. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or (3) Worldwide demand is estimated to be greater than worldwide production of units, hence retailers are allocated a limited number.

    1. Re:Huh? by falcon5768 · · Score: 1
      Nintendo plans on having 10 million units ready by Christmas, well over there expected original estimate of 7 million. In contrast the 360 had 250,000 units ready last year and the PS3 only 400,000 expected by christmas.

      Nintendo has PLENTY of units ready. This is a fake marketing ploy by EB/Gamestop.

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    2. Re:Huh? by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I assure you, it is a very real marketing ploy, not a fake one.

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  13. Mod Me Off To Nintendo Hell... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But no matter how hard I have tried to hold on to the E3 hype, the Wii just isn't doing it for me as a gamer.

    I think seeing the dreadfully boring Red Steel gameplay footage a few days ago knocked the last bit of E3 Wii hype out of my system. If any other company had tried to sell such a system as the Wii it would be laughed right out of the market as a silly gimmick.

    The Wii is nothing more than a vastly overpriced GameCube turbo with a pointer bolted on.

    There, I said it.

    Nintendo and the Wii are looking more and more like the old Emperor's New Clothes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emporer's_new_clothes

    1. Re:Mod Me Off To Nintendo Hell... by GreatDrok · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The Wii is nothing more than a vastly overpriced GameCube turbo with a pointer bolted on.

      And? I'm sorry but I just don't see why this is a problem. PC manufactuers have been doing just this since 1981 when the first IBM PC came out. Today, you can but a Dell box (or even a Mac now) which is nothing more than a much faster version of that first machine from 1981.

      The Game Cube had some really good games and a decent library size so the fact that there is a ready selection of games at low prices makes a Wii very attractive. Every GC game will play on the Wii. Compare that with the level of backwards compatibility you get with the Xbox360. I know, I have a 360 and it may or may not play a particular Xbox game, perfectly or otherwise. The Wii won't have that problem. I own a GameCube, PS2 and 360. Yes, I pre-ordered a Wii. No, I haven't even considered ordering a PS3. I can't wait for the Wii.

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    2. Re:Mod Me Off To Nintendo Hell... by jspectre · · Score: 1

      so...? the ps3 and xbox 360 are simply the Emperor's New Groove: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Gro ove

      same thing in a shinier package, better animation and slick soundtrack. don't forget the higher pricetag.

      who has come out with something "different" in a console system in the past few years? other than the DS (dual screens + touchscreen) i can't really think of anything. faster cpu/gpu/blu-ray/death-ray just don't cut it for "innovative". a "pointer" may not be innovative, but it's a first for a console system. best sony could come up with was to "innovate" the lack of a rumble system (oh those nasty patent infringements).

      i don't own a gamecube (but i do have a ps2 & xbox). i'll be buying a wii not only for the "pointer" but the current and back-catalog of games nintendo will be offering: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Console_(Wii)

      so don't buy one, that's one less person i'll have to worry about trying to get the one i'm buying on release day. (though posting anonymously, i bet you've already pre-ordered yours)

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    3. Re:Mod Me Off To Nintendo Hell... by Swanktastic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      who has come out with something "different" in a console system in the past few years? other than the DS (dual screens + touchscreen) i can't really think of anything.

      I may be alone, but I feel that Sony's EyeToy was fairly innovative. It may not have been the first camera system for on-screen gaming, but they did a nice job with ease of use and supporting it with some fun games. Very much in the same vein, Apple may not have made the first portable digital music player, but they made a nice software/hardware package that made the thing mainstream.

      I would show the EyeToy to folks who are non-gamers, and they thought it was interesting enough to buy a Playstation 2. Mind you, these were folks who would never consider playing typical console games. If Sony had packaged an improved EyeToy with the PS3 (maybe with a Fitness Game), I think they would have gotten a lot of good coverage from the mainstream press.

    4. Re:Mod Me Off To Nintendo Hell... by cloudwilliam · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "dreadfully boring Red Steel gameplay" It might not appeal to you, but what about Red Steel's gameplay is boring? The run-and-gun formula that so many shooters employ? It's tried and true, that's for sure, but it also sells. Think of games like Half-Life, Halo, Doom, etc. The thing about these games that separates good from bad typically isn't the control scheme, but whether or not the game catches your interest--e.g., a story. I, for one, don't feel qualified to judge that aspect of a game until I've played it. It's a little like basing your opinion of a movie off the commercial. Certainly, though, it's rare for a company to come out with an entirely new kind of game; they just change something about previous games, usually bigger guns and prettier graphics. But I think Nintendo has something more than a gimmick with their new controller. If they can take a complicated game and make it easy to play by using motions and gestures already intuitive to us, that's a good thing. I'm all for ending the trend toward controllers with more buttons than I have fingers. When I want that, I'll go back to PC gaming. I can type a hell of a lot faster than I dance the Button Mash.

    5. Re:Mod Me Off To Nintendo Hell... by HawkingMattress · · Score: 1

      True but the difference is that eyetoy is a standalone product.
      If the second screen, the stylus, wifi and the mic on the DS were standalone products, it would just be one more handled, because you'd have two games using them since developpers would know that players most probably don't have them.
      Likewise if the eyetoy was included from the start with every ps2, you could bet half of the game would have found innovative uses for it that would really make a difference in gameplay /immersion. So the eye-toy might be an innovative product, but including it with the ps2 would have made a much more innovative console, with much more innovative games. A world of difference...

    6. Re:Mod Me Off To Nintendo Hell... by AcidLacedPenguiN · · Score: 1

      A quick look in a fitness catalog and you'll see decent fitness machines for roughly the same pricetag as a PS3. . . Now speaking as a terribly lazy gamer I think I'd vastly prefer the fitness machine (one of the models w/o the BluRay disc player) to a PS3. . .

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    7. Re:Mod Me Off To Nintendo Hell... by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 1

      I would show the EyeToy to folks who are non-gamers, and they thought it was interesting enough to buy a Playstation 2. Mind you, these were folks who would never consider playing typical console games.

      Ditto. I got my mom a PS2 w/ Eyetoy:Kinetic, and she loved it so much she showed it to a neighbor, who then got it, and I just found out the other day that that neighbor showed it to her cousin, who has now gotten it.

      Sony should be paying *me* ... except that they don't have any money ;-)

    8. Re:Mod Me Off To Nintendo Hell... by generic-man · · Score: 1

      So you don't like the PS3 and Xbox 360 because they're the "same thing in a shinier package," but you do like the Virtual Console? That's the same games that you used to play, now available for DRMed download for $5-$10 each. Tack on $250 for the system to play these old games, plus $X per controller (not sure how much the retro-style controller costs).

      For me, the Wii looks cool but it's simply not worth over $300 (system, games, controller, tax) right now. It offers very little new for the price.

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    9. Re:Mod Me Off To Nintendo Hell... by Leviance · · Score: 1

      Yeah, aside from you know, the whole wireless controller-sensing-motion thing...

      I think the idea is that Sony and Xbox have not been very innovative this generation. The systems are more expensive than anything since the 3DO/Jaguar days and all they really have is an upgrade on media format and a better processor for faster graphics.

      I hate to tell you this, but any of the games companies could have done this.

      PS3 graphics will be better than 360s. Why? The 360 technology is a year old already. That's just the way things work.

      Nintendo simply has a different corporate strategy: try to determine what the inherent "fun" quality is in a game, and use that to innovate. Hence the development of the thumbstick, rumble, and now the wiimote.

      So Sony and M$ are simply guilty of taking another's inventions and making them better. Not necessarily a bad thing, but I'm pretty sure we all want the innovating company like Nintendo out there to keep things new and fresh.

    10. Re:Mod Me Off To Nintendo Hell... by generic-man · · Score: 1

      $300 for a GameCube with a Power Glove? Pass.

      (Oh, you thought Nintendo invented motion sensing controllers?)

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    11. Re:Mod Me Off To Nintendo Hell... by DocBoss · · Score: 1

      $300 for a GameCube with a Power Glove? SWEET!

      "I love the nintendo power glove, it's so bad."

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    12. Re:Mod Me Off To Nintendo Hell... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what, that was probably the most insightful thing i've read on slashdot during this whole (and rather tedious) debate on consoles that aren't even out yet. Sony had some really good tech with eyetoy and i bet they could pack one in for a very small fraction of the total cost of the PS3. It would have been a damn site better than the crippled controller they've decided to go with anyway. Shame you don't work for Sony really!

      PS the word I have to type in the box is "raping" seriously, what the fuck?

    13. Re:Mod Me Off To Nintendo Hell... by jspectre · · Score: 1

      sorry, but can you even find an original commodore 64 lying around some place, and games for it? are you even old enough to remember the commodore 16/64? yes, you can buy/download an emulator for it on a mac or mac, and then download some games (most likely illegally). but at least nintendo is selling everything legit, and at a decent price. $5 for a SNES game i played years ago and will enjoy again. i'll buy it. hell, it's cheaper than many other things out there (a movie ticket, a coffee from starbucks, a new cd).

      $250 isn't a bad price considering you can play wii games plus all gamecube games, and the virtual console library.

      please tell me what sony offers to justify their price for the ps3, or microsoft for the 360. as far as i see it, it's a shinier package with some backward compatability and the same old controllers, gamestyle and gameplay as the ps2 & xbox. neither system has anything as innovative as the wii's controllers. the only new thing about the ps3 is the albatross of it's blu-ray reader, which we can thank for sending the price through the roof. nintendo isn't charging you $300 for the new controller/sensorbar.

      i'm thinking people are going to say the wii is fun when they play it, gamers and non-gamers alike. i don't see how many people are going to be saying that about the ps3/xbox360 when it simply is more of the same. but that's just me.

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    14. Re:Mod Me Off To Nintendo Hell... by generic-man · · Score: 1

      You are assuming that I have to buy either the Wii, the Xbox 360, or the PlayStation 3. I don't plan to buy any new game system until one is priced reasonably and all the early-release bugs get worked out. They all have their benefits. The Wii has its wi-fi and gimmicky controller; the Xbox 360 has its excellent on-line play, existing game library, and HD-DVD player accessory; and the PS3 has a Blu-Ray player. (I own an HDTV so I care about that.)

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  14. I'll be first in line by Fr05t · · Score: 1

    In Canada they go on pre-order Monday. I'm planning spending Sunday night in the car with a few friends to make sure we are first in line when they open at 10am.

    1. Re:I'll be first in line by Kimos · · Score: 1
      I'm planning spending Sunday night in the car with a few friends...
      Umm... Hot?
    2. Re:I'll be first in line by Drogo007 · · Score: 1
      I'm planning spending Sunday night in the car with a few friends... Umm... Hot?
      You must be new here...
    3. Re:I'll be first in line by AcidLacedPenguiN · · Score: 1

      WTF, one of the EBs in Fredericton NB took a pre-order from my brother like 3 months ago!

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    4. Re:I'll be first in line by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NB? Canada? Amazon's been taking preoorders for months (if you don't mind recieving it wednesday or thursday).

    5. Re:I'll be first in line by Fr05t · · Score: 1

      You sure your brother wasn't pulling your leg? I hope not since I've got pre-order #2 at the EB on Prospect in Fredericton :O

  15. They only fooled me once... by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    ...so shame on them. The collective "them" that is.

    I'm an animation fan (watching and creating and discussing), so way back when Fantasia was going to be released the first time (this was pre-DVD, I think), they were taking pre-orders because the demand seemed really pent up. So I preordered. Went to the store when the call came, and there were about 9000 copies of Fantasia piles up to the ceiling. (rolls eyes) No skin off my nose, but what was the point?

    However a complex gaming console is not analogous to a more easily mass produced video tape, so I'm not really sure what my point is here. :-\

    1. Re:They only fooled me once... by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      No skin off my nose, but what was the point?

      You bought your copy at the store that was taking preorders instead of one that doesn't. If one store does preorders and the other doesn't then those who preorder are going to buy at the preorder taking store, no matter how much supply there is. That means every store that cares enough is forced to take preorders or see the customers tie themselves to a competitor.

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  16. If you live in NYC.. by Achoi77 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I know it's been said repeatedly in different sites, but if you live in NYC you can just walk on over to the Nintendo World store near Rockefeller Center and place a preorder. They've been taking preorders for a few weeks already, to which I've done mine during lunch. Plus I have a hunch that they are less likely to overcommit and fail to deliver on launch date, something EB and Gamestop have been notorious for.

    1. Re:If you live in NYC.. by jaysones · · Score: 1

      Just a follow-up: I did this yesterday and it was a breeze. You can pay anywhere from a $50 down payment to the full price, your choice. You can also preorder Zelda and Excite Truck for $10 or full price. No line, no wait. This is how it should be!

  17. 1st Generation by gsmraxe · · Score: 1

    I wonder if the wii will suffer from the same malady as some 1st generation electronics do. There will be something wrong with the console, probably won't affect everyone, but enough that they'll have to release a 2nd, 3rd generation console to fix the problems.

    I learned my lesson with Creative's first mp3 player (the name escapes me, it's been a few years), I try not buy things of this nature right away...I always wait til they fix the problems, then get one.

    1. Re:1st Generation by MindStalker · · Score: 2, Informative

      So far Nintendo has had a good record on this account. Either way the Wii is promised to have an updatable operating system. And there are few drastically new things on the Wii, I would estimate at worse you might have to update that as changes to their OS are rumored to be fairly new, possibly unstable. Otherwise one might want to wait a while on picking up extra controllers and there is a good chance the first version of the Wiimotes will have some problems.

    2. Re:1st Generation by DinZy · · Score: 1

      The Wii really isn't 1st gen. It has the same GPU/CPU as the Gamecube except that they are 90nm and clocked slightly faster. Nothing revolutionary there. The controller is of course 1st gen, but seeing that the Wii controller is basically the Wii, I am pretty sure it works well enough that it's design will not change. As far as I can tell Nintendo has never needed to change/update its products except when they wanted to (GBA, DS).

    3. Re:1st Generation by sqlrob · · Score: 1

      Good record, right. Like the DS Lite cracks. That killed my preorder right there.

    4. Re:1st Generation by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      As long as it's not front-loading like the NES we should have nothing to worry about. Wait a minute... D'OH!

    5. Re:1st Generation by Mupp252 · · Score: 1

      I bought my Gamecube on launch day and have never had a problem with it. I remember a few years ago X-Play did a feature on the durability of the big 3 systems. Sony finished last whereas the Gamecube suffered the greatest amount of torture.

      The fact that Sony always has issues with their 1st Gen hardware made me not pre order the upcoming PS3.

    6. Re:1st Generation by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      That wasn't a hardware problem really. Either way thats something that was newly designed and obviously we not tested for the beating they got in real life. Thats why I'm saying expect new versions of the Wiimote to come out. The physical technology they produce is generally pretty sound unless you plan on smacking your console itself around.

    7. Re:1st Generation by Mark+Maughan · · Score: 1

      Good record like the NES front loading cartridge slot and the first generation GameCube optical drive?

      Well I guess 2/4 is a good record compared to Microsoft and Sony who are both 0/2 for problem free first generation models. Still nothing to be proud of.

    8. Re:1st Generation by xenocide2 · · Score: 1

      I would imagine that the e3 demos were a pretty solid smoke-test for the Wii. Three days of non-stop abuse by gamers and all. The fact that the DS lite wasn't a new platform but a new revision of the same may have contributed to the crack thing not being caught before launch.

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    9. Re:1st Generation by Dimensio · · Score: 2

      Good record like the NES front loading cartridge slot and the first generation GameCube optical drive?

      I have a first generation GameCube. It has yet to fail. I haven't heard anything about problematic drives. I have heard quite a bit about failing first-generation XBox optical drives and even more about failing PS2 optical drives into generations well beyond the first.

    10. Re:1st Generation by Mark+Maughan · · Score: 1

      I have a first generation PS2 that still works great and I play it regularly.

      I haven't heard much first hand info on bad GC drives either, but then again I hardly know anyone with GC's, let alone first generation GC's.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_GameCube#Dri ve

      Don't trust annecdotes.

  18. UK's GAME has been taking preorders for weeks by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 1

    May I remind the editors that your audience isn't 100% american, if you are talking about america you need to say so.

    In other news, the UK equivalent to EB (didn't they buy EB?): GAME, has been taking wii pre-orders since late september. We beat you for once! (Note, I haven't looked up the dates, but I bet it's still released in the US first).

    1. Re:UK's GAME has been taking preorders for weeks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      May I remind you to fucking READ THE GOD DAMNED HEADLINE before being a pompous ass? The headline states "at EB and Gamestop", two large chains(but not the only two stores) that are in the US. As others have stated other places in the US have been taking pre-orders for a while.

      So yeah, remember to read before being pompous...oh wait....I forgot where I was for a second, "AMERICANS ARE STUPID FAT LAZY PIGS!"

      Is that better?

    2. Re:UK's GAME has been taking preorders for weeks by LoserBhoy · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they are taking preorders but with no guarantee you're getting a console.

      You give them some money and they are kind enough to put your name on a list.

      If you don't get one by Christmas then they are good enough to give you your money back!

    3. Re:UK's GAME has been taking preorders for weeks by VJ42 · · Score: 1

      Not quite, at least at my local Game; £20 fully refundable deposit for Wii. I can go there on launch day, and get the 9th one they get. If I don't want it, I can get my £20 back, I can get my £20 back tomorrow if I like.

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  19. Sold out by SilentReproach · · Score: 1

    The local mall here in Michigan is sold out already. When I called and asked how many they started with, the guy said 32 pre-orders were available.

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  20. I work right next to a Gamestop by AsnFkr · · Score: 1

    ....And I just walked over there. They had given out 18 vouchers to the first 18 people to "guarantee" them a Wii. A quick count showed I was number 25 or so, and we have like 4 gamestops in town. So to those on the west coast....get there early if you want a voucher that guarantees you of getting a promise to get a gamesystem that will probably come out in late November.

  21. Have fun, suckers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While I just waltz into Wal-Mart on launch day and pick a few up.

  22. Lik-sang already taking worldwide Pre-orders by dalmiroy2k · · Score: 1

    If you live outside USA, consider pre-ordering Nintendo Wii via lik-sang.com

    http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3883

  23. System Allotments by Dark+Leaper · · Score: 1

    I know EB Games and Gamestop don't have huge allotments. 18 IS the maximum as far as I know... ummm 4 are usually reserved for employees... but you didn't hear that from me..

    1. Re:System Allotments by m3rr · · Score: 1

      That jives with my experience this morning. I was number 18 in line and they let 14 people in before locking the door.

    2. Re:System Allotments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      18 is NOT the maximum... My EB in Vienna, Virginia (off of Rt 123.) had 30 this morning. I showed up at a 0620 and was 2nd in line behind my friend who showed up at 0530.

      It was nice a chilly but nothing a hate, gloves, DS Lite, and some Starbucks couldn't overcome.

      We did have a issue where their computers didn't come up until 1025 and I was done with my preorder at 1030.

    3. Re:System Allotments by Dark+Leaper · · Score: 1

      The manager said it depends on the store. He was reluctantly to give out exact numbers. He asked me if I wanted "just one" pre-order. Sadly, I only had money to put down for one.

  24. Wtf? by Malevolyn · · Score: 1

    My local EB is one of the top 10 in the nation, they got 16 PS3s. But they only got 12 Wiis. Doesn't make any sense, but I was #4 so it's all good. =)

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    1. Re:Wtf? by FatherOfONe · · Score: 1

      "My local EB is one of the top 10 in the nation, they got 16 PS3s. But they only got 12 Wiis. Doesn't make any sense, but I was #4 so it's all good. =)"

      It was the same here in Indianapolis. The EB store I called only got 4 Nintendos and they got 15 PS3s. I was lucky enough to be #7 for the PS3, and I personally don't want a new Nintendo, but this tells me that the shipments of Nintendo will probably be less than was told.

      This started me thinking some more. I heard that the Wii was having some major issues with their new controller. Specifically they have issues with sunlight and florescent lights. Now finding any bad news about Nintendo is hard because of the number of fanboys out there, but it doesn't shock me that they might have some issues with it. Nintendo, much like Sony tends to overestimate what they can actually deliver and it isn't outside the realm of possibility that they are having issues. "If" Nintendo truely has 2 million consoles ready for launch then each gamestop should have had around 25 units or more. Yet none in this area had more than 8.

      I am beginning to think that I should have stood in line to put a Wii up on Ebay.

      Either way, congrats on getting you box and I hope you have fun with it. I am cheesed about my PS3 and can't wait to get it. Hopefully I can get my new 1080P TV by then also. :-)

      --
      The more I learn about science, the more my faith in God increases.
    2. Re:Wtf? by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      "Now finding any bad news about Nintendo is hard because of the number of fanboys out there..."

      And the people who don't post links to such news when they do find it. Do you have any sources for the controller issues?

    3. Re:Wtf? by FatherOfONe · · Score: 1

      I can't find the link, and again, I personally don't care how well or bad Nintendo does. I somewhat hope they do well and it puts pressure on Sony to lower their price, but finding anyone who will say ANYTHING bad about the Wii and not be torn apart on the web is difficult.

      However the fact remains that the average Gamestop/EB didn't have as many preorders as PS3's. If I was a Nintendo fan I would be very worried about that. Now perhaps there is a great explanation for it, and this is a non issue, but again if I was a fan and missed out on the preorder today then I would probably be getting ready to camp out when they hit Best Buy or one of the other stores that don't take preorders.

      The way I see it is this. The PS3 and Wii sell to pretty much the same distribution channel. The PS3 has 400k units on it's first ship day. The Nintendo supposedly has 2 MILLION. So there should be around 5X as many Wii as PS3's at their launch. Now some have said that Nintendo is actually ahead of schedule, but I will go with Nintendo's latest estimate. GameStop/EB had 8 or 16 PS3's per store for their preorder. Given the math above it isn't unreasonable to expect there to be at least 2X that number for Wii, yet we know that isn't the case. Heck, by the math above it isn't unresonable to expect 5X or 40 to 80 Wii preorders available. This obviously wasn't the case, and begs the quesiton of why?

      Again, I am not bashing the Nintendo and personally like the system. I am not a fan of low resolution games and the $60+ weird controller, but the kids games on Nintendo rock. They flat out own the 10 and under crowd and their launch titles for that market looks as strong as ever. The Zelda game sounds great and I am sure that the Nintendo fans will enjoy their console, but the math needs to be explained. I will say that if I planned on getting a Nintendo Wii this year I would be somewhat concerned, and the only thing on the Wii console that would require any non standard or new engineering is the controller. So "if" there is an issue with the manufacturing then it isn't unreasonable to believe it points to the controller.

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      The more I learn about science, the more my faith in God increases.
    4. Re:Wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, lets see.. The Wii should have had online multiplayer at launch. The Wii might have problems with the sun, although the extent of that isn't known. The Wii remote and nunchuck costs too much for a controller. (3 x 60 = 180!) The Wii won't be able to handle ports of games that are coming out on the PS3 and the XBOX360, so developers need to develop specifically for it. Thats going to cost it some third party titles. The Wii will come out in different colors, but all us first adopters get is white.

      That being said,

      Zelda.
      Online Pokemon, Farcry, Batallion Wars 2 around march.
      SSBB.
      FF:CC2, DragonQuest Swords.

      Cheapest Console by 50 bucks with a game. But not as cheap as we wanted it to be.

      Wiimote rocks for FPSs, Sports games, RPGs (motions for different activities, HOW IS THAT NOT ROLEPLAYING??) Not so much racing, but not an issue for me.

    5. Re:Wtf? by Lalakis · · Score: 1

      This started me thinking some more. I heard that the Wii was having some major issues with their new controller. Specifically they have issues with sunlight and florescent lights.

      I don't know where you 'd read that (and obviously neither do you), but the source of this information is from the "Iwata asks" series of interviews. Let me quote the relevant part:

      Ikeda: In the early stages of development we ran into a number of problems that we hadn't anticipated, like the fact that the controller would react to fluorescent light, for example. Creating a mechanism that prevents the controller from responding to fluorescent light and sunlight may sound like low-profile activities, but it still gave us a lot to work on.

      It's a problem they had to face early in the development of the remote and obviously they have since overcomed it. Everything else is just fud...
  25. Which stores give out FREE $#!+ with the Wii ? by JoshDM · · Score: 1

    With the DS Lite launch:
    Circuit City gave out a DS Lite sleeve.
    Best Buy gave out free Brain Age.


    Do we know which stores have the best giveaways this time around because that's who I'm buying from. Wii, the first system to come with it's own built-in game in years, and I'll still buy from whomever can give me the best free add-ons.

  26. 95% of the the people buying the ps3 / wii preorde by Cartack · · Score: 0

    Are doing it to make a nice profit. After the ridiculous markups that occurred with the xbox360 ( in some cases selling for $1000 over retail) people were prepared this time, and they are treating pre-orders like launch day.

  27. Pre-ordered report from Baltimore... by Tronster · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just got back from the trenches, pre-ordering my Wii. Here's what it looked like at a North Baltimore Game Stop...

    7:30am - Arrive to meet friend. One person is already in front of us.

    8:00am - Four more people are behind us. Manager is already there to make sure things are okay. Tells us there are 12 units for pre-order (and 2 which the store is allowed to let employees pre-order.) Also informs us they are openning up at midnight on the day of the Wii launch.

    8:15am - Some guys join the line, they came from a line of 20 people at the Game Stop in the "Hunt Valley" mall area.

    8:30am - Line is full. Manager tells people in line that anyone else who shows won't be able to pre-order.

    9:00am - Some hard core games show up and tell us it's crazy they don't have more pre-orders because "5 million units are being produced"... walk away very pissed.

    10:00am - Manager opens to the doors and we rush in; not so much to pre-order... but also because we were all freezing. (Temp started at 37 and only rose to 50 by 10am.)

    $50 pre-order. $30 for a 1yr warranty.

    Everyone in line was getting one for themselves, except for one mother... determined to get a unit for her sons as a Christmas gift. :)

    1. Re:Pre-ordered report from Baltimore... by wbm6k · · Score: 1

      $50 pre-order. $30 for a 1yr warranty.

      I must confess, I do not understand why you would want to order a warranty here. Nintendo tradionally already has a one-year warranty on their systems (see http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/manuals/warrantyt ext_us.jsp), and many credit cards will double that warranty for you automatically. What benefit is there to order the warranty, other than to give more profit to the store? And even if you are planning on getting a warranty, why would you pay for that before receiving the system?

    2. Re:Pre-ordered report from Baltimore... by BaGGyGCX · · Score: 1

      Because it allows for same day exchange, and usually if its defective on release do you really want to spend an additional $20 to get it shipped to the factory and wait another 2 weeks for it?

    3. Re:Pre-ordered report from Baltimore... by AcidLacedPenguiN · · Score: 1

      the only benefit is that this 1yr warranty is more than likely an instore warranty. Meaning not having to go through the hassle of calling the outsourced chinese call center and then shipping the unit to some place and wait 2 weeks to get it back.
      The $3 game warranties are the real ripoffs from EB, I hate how pushy they are about selling it to you.

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      disclaimer: I've been known to store numbers in my ass for which to dig out when quantities are required.
    4. Re:Pre-ordered report from Baltimore... by JFMulder · · Score: 1

      Actually, if you are still under warranty, Nintendo pays for shipping both ways. They send you an empty box, you put the console in (just the console, no wires, controllers , anything). You send it, and two weeks later (that was how long it took them to fix my DS, TWICE) you get your unit back. With GBAs, you could also have them send you a refurbished unit. You put your defective unit in the box that it came in and ship it back with their pre-postaged stamp and you are done. Your unit will be repaired and will be sent as a refurbished unit to someone else.

    5. Re:Pre-ordered report from Baltimore... by Dimensio · · Score: 1

      Because it allows for same day exchange, and usually if its defective on release do you really want to spend an additional $20 to get it shipped to the factory and wait another 2 weeks for it?

      If it is defective upon release and the store sells out, there may be little recourse but to have the unit shipped to a factory for repair or replacement.

  28. i saw them waiting this morning by tehwebguy · · Score: 4, Funny

    this morning i drove by a GameStop and saw a ton of kids in line, so i yelled "PS3 FOR THE WIN!!!!"

    they were probably like "stupid sony fanboy", little do they know i was just pissed they beat me there..

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    -- lol pwned
  29. Lousy Day, Lousy Time by AnswerIs42 · · Score: 1

    A weekday and right in the middle of the day... so that means I can either go to work or be unpaid for half the day or more.

    I got the call yesterday, they were recomending I be there at 6:30am. As much as I would like to get a Wii... I can wait a few weeks after release.

  30. Toysrus.ca offer by freeweed · · Score: 1

    Toys R Us, at least in Canada, briefly had an incredible pre-order offer on their website:

    $279, includes the Wii, 2 games (I assume one is the pack-in), and an extra controller.

    For a system that will likely sell for $299 in Canada, this was an amazing deal. They pulled it after about a day, though :(

    Either way, as others have pointed out, pre-ordering this system is stupid. There will be millions on store shelves come December 1st. Might be a run on them at xmas time if the hype machine works itself into a frenzy, but if you're buying it for yourself there should be plenty on hand.

    Would 6 million units selling out in a matter of weeks make this the most successful console launch ever?

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    Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
  31. My Gamestop didn't have enough by dividedsky319 · · Score: 1

    Got to Gamestop around 9:20 for a 10:00 opening, figuring I'd pre order one just in case. I have one pre ordered at FYE, but they don't know how many systems they'll be getting for the release day, so I figured if I got one from Gamestop I'd cancel the other.

    Around 9:40 a guy from the store came out and counted people and cut off the line and sent about 10 people (including me) away. There were probably about 40-50 people there when I got there.

    Now, I'm not too disappointed though, becuase like others have said, I'm really not too worried about getting one this holiday season. If Nintendo's numbers are right, you will be able to walk into a store and get one... only time will tell though.

    I just know that judging from this morning, the Wii is a hot commodity. Hopefully Nintendo has enough to fill the demand.

  32. 1st What? by norminator · · Score: 1

    I wonder if the wii will suffer from the same malady as some 1st generation electronics do.

    I think you mean 1st rev of this generation, not 1st generation. This is Nintendo's 5th gen console. Not to mention that the previous 4 generations of consoles all have good reputations for being well-built, even the 1st revs.

  33. Got mine this morning by mrjimorg · · Score: 1

    Guy working at Gamestop said that EB Games and Gamestop together would get 90% of the Wii's that are released the first day. Not sure how accurate that is, but thats what they're being told from their higher-ups. We went by the store at 7:30 and it was already too late. So, I went into the mall and got spot number 7 in line. Then they opened early, I did my preorder, and when I left I drove past the Gamestop and was laughing at the people still in line. Since Gamestop opens at 10:00 they're probably still in line, and I already had breakfast and am at work. Fun times.

    1. Re:Got mine this morning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guy working at gamestop meant to say 90% of Wii's being sold by EB/Gamestop will be sold to employees and family/friends of employees, remaining Wii's will be sold on a pre-order status to lock in chumps willing to drop $50 on a product you'll be able to get anywhere else on launch day, but 'oh noes! limited suppliez! wez only getz teh 10 Wii!'... only.. http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/05/wii-production-e xceeding-expectations/ hmmmmmm

    2. Re:Got mine this morning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is entirely false.

      2 per store are for employees.

  34. In lieu by OSS_ilation · · Score: 1

    of the $50 deposit I also heard GameStop is taking back the receipts they gave out for the PS3 preorder event earlier in the week.

  35. I'll wait by waif69 · · Score: 1

    I think I'll be getting a Wii on 24 Dec 06, just like many other people who don't shop until the very last moment. It adds to the excitement of the holiday.

  36. VideoGamesPlus sold all their preorders last night by Strolls · · Score: 1
    A lot of UK gamers seem to use VideoGamesPlus.ca for their imports and yesterday a bunch of us received this email:
    As I promised I am giving advanced notice on Wii Preorders. They will be going up today October 12th, 2006 at around 4pm Eastern Standard Time.
    Sorry for the Short Notice but any Notice is better than nothing.
    At about 9pm the games started appearing on the site, which got slower & slower over the next hour or so, obviously as hundreds of idiots repeatedly pressed the refresh button.

    Today the console has been taken off the site, presumably indicating that all orders have been sold out. VideoGamesPlus has a very good reputation, and stated that they wouldn't take pre-orders until they knew how many Wii they'd been allocated, so I'm fairly optimistic of getting mine. Of course if you're based in the US you're not sure of getting your console on release day if you order online, but these should arrive a couple of days before UK release. :)

    Stroller.

  37. Got mine by Just+Benjamin · · Score: 1

    I'm in Columbia SC. Got to the EB around 8:45, a couple other cars in the parking lot. Downloaded demos from the DS station while I waited in the car. I started the line about 9:15, 8 or 9 other people queued up behind me.
    According to the guys behind the desk, they are getting in 12 systems. I'm a semi-regular at the store and they said they would hold my pre-ordered system if I wasn't waiting for the gate to open on launch day.
    Shouldn't be too difficult for people to get a system without a pre-order, I would think.

  38. Who's preordering it/waiting/not buying? by antdude · · Score: 1

    I am not. I probably will wait a year if I want one or I won't get one. I haven't owned a gaming console since Atari 2600. I did borrow a Turbo Graphx 16 for a week though.

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  39. Prebooks by jrmiller84 · · Score: 1

    I work for a south-eastern video game retailer (Rhino Video Games) at their HQ and we aren't doing any system prebooks because there's no way to know how many you will receive until pretty late in the game(no pun intended). It's first come first serve and most of the customers don't mind this. It also sucks for us being the little guys (72 stores) because we don't get as much of a pull to reserve systems from the vendors and that also hinders our prebooking abilities. Then again, EB and Gamestop do have a habit of prebooking items way in advance and then not being able to deliver. Maybe I'm bias ;)

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    1. Re:Prebooks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love Rhino. But the things that make it great also make it impossible for me to shop there. I just wish I was closer to the nearest one.

      The retro is what gets me. Saturn, Dreamcast, PSX, SNES, NES.. I could so spend 20 grand in that store if I had the cash to blow.

    2. Re:Prebooks by jrmiller84 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, believe me, when you work next to their warehouse where all of the old stuff is stashed, it makes it hard to save money.

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      I will forever be a student.
  40. A question... by Entanglebit · · Score: 0

    What do you guys think? With the Wii meeting its production goals, is this necessary, or should there be a veritable bounty of available Wiis, pre-order or not? I do want one, come late Nov., but I'm curious if this is all needed.

  41. EBGames - 9:55 by myekos · · Score: 2, Informative

    My alarm failed to go off this morning in the usual fashion; it went off at 7 am, I hit the switch and rolled over. Next thing I know it's 9:20. Figuring I was either destined to be successful or not I went through the motions of getting out the door and to the store. I had 3 stores in mind, I had planned on cruising by and seeing what the lines were like at each store. When I got to the first one there was no line at 9:55 with the store opening at 10:00 so I stopped. Parking right outside the strip mall store I could see it was just the two employees inside, strolled over and waited for them to open the door. I couldn't believe it. I was first in line? I had to confirm the store opening time... yup, right there in the window it said the store hours 10-9. In the next minute five more people showed up. The store manager came out and told us he'd check the computer because he wasn't sure he had any preorders left. I said what the hell are you talking about, the store isn't open yett, how could you be out of pre-orders!! He continued ignoring us and locked the door. I was furious. He comes out 10 minutes later to let us in and advises they have 3 pre-orders left. He then tries telling us that they had let the line of people waiting outside in when they showed up for work at 9. Sorry, I don't buy it. One guy was demanding to know the managers name, district managers contact info, and was told they don't give out that info, the cashier gave him the customer service number and said good luck. This type of treatment to customers is why people avoid Best Buy, but I'm hoping there are specials out there or at least a ready supply of product at another store so I can cancel my pre-order with EBGames / Gamestop.

    1. Re:EBGames - 9:55 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you ever think that, I dunno, the guy was telling the truth? If they had more than enough people at 9am isnt is reasonable for them to sell to those people so they dont have to wait in line an extra hour? You got there 5 minutes before the store opened and now youre pissed you didnt get a preorder...

      His explanation seems a lot more reasonable than your conspiracy theory, to be honest, particularly since Ive heard of a lot of stores doing this. He probably didnt want to give you his information cause technically what he did was against corporate policy, even though it was a welcome service to his customers waiting outside. The only thing you got served was false hope, not lies.

    2. Re:EBGames - 9:55 by DeathsAdvocate06 · · Score: 1

      That could be true, the gamestop i went to the manager came out at 9 and started taking us in one by one to pre order the console. i was number 7 in line and i got there at 8am. ended up with about 30 people in line before i was done (at 9:50am).

    3. Re:EBGames - 9:55 by ReverendHoss · · Score: 1

      It must vary from store to store, as my experience was the exact opposite. I was two people behind the cut off point. The manager took my name and phone number, and called around to the various other places in the area. Two hours later he called and told me he had gotten me a preorder 25 miles away, and that I could stop by tomorrow to pay and pick up the reciept.

      That Gamestop (Latham Farms in Latham, NY) is definitely getting more of my business.

      Well, if they actually come through on ship day. =P

  42. Has Anyone Noticed The # of PS3s on Ebay by tompatman · · Score: 1

    I find it comical that everyone waited in line overnight to get a preorder for a PS3 to sell on ebay for $3k. If there are that many people willing to pay $3k just to be the first to play a new system, then it's true that there really is a sucker born every minute.

    1. Re:Has Anyone Noticed The # of PS3s on Ebay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find it comical too. I'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

  43. Been there, done that by RyoShin · · Score: 1

    After my 8-9 class dismissed this morning, I promptly headed home, hopped in my car, and took off to one of the nearby Gamestops.

    I got in line, only to be told that I was number 13 of 12 (number of people in line, number of units to pre-order). The sadness! But a mall across the street had not only another Gamestop, but an EBGames as well, so I had twice as many chances to stand in line outside of the store without being in the bitter cold.

    I was able to get in line at the Gamestop (number five in the line), and proceeded to wait for about 40 minutes for the store to open. During that time, I realized why people camp out like that. Sure, we all want to grab the system early, but I was able to partake in 40 minutes of near-constant conversation with complete strangers about video games. It was great to be able to cut loose and talk about all sorts of weird video game oddities, like the antics surrounding the 360 release, or the outrageous eBay auctions for PS3 receipts. I was able to inform some of the parents in line, getting it for the kid, about the various features of it. Some didn't know about the Virtual Console, and thought that was "the Bee's Knees".

    And in the end, we all got the reserves we wanted.

    Interestingly, I went for a taco run around 3 AM last night, and swung by the outdoors Gamestop to see if anyone was camping out. There was one guy, in about three coats, playing a DS in a fold-out chair. He said he'd been there since midnight.

    Now we all must wait a month to get the actual product.

  44. for Canadians by Frag-A-Muffin · · Score: 1

    Wiifanboy is saying that Canadians won't be able to pre-order til Monday.

    I'm gonna head over to EB at lunch just to check it out anyways.

    I would rather line up on the 18th though. It'd be much more fun. I would imagine that a lot of the people in THAT line up would have a DS with them. That would be some fun wifi gaming :)

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  45. I camped out 3 hours early... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was outside of EB 3 at 7 am with 2 other people... They only took 12 reserves. I got mine, but tey already had all of their reserves filled withing less than 2o min.

  46. Success!! by Trillian_1138 · · Score: 1

    Just got back from the local EB Games (at 10:20AM CST). They had 31 available for pre-order, I was number 19, and I got there around 9:30AM.

    Preordered the following:
    -The Wii (1 control, Wii Sports)
    -An extra controller set (WiiMote and Nunchuck)
    -Zelda
    -ExciteTruck
    -Red Steel

    There was only 1 or 2 more people in line than they had systems, and they said they *might* be getting more. It looks like Nintendo is getting out enough to satisfy as many people as possible, which I think is fantastic.

    I'm psyched!
    -Trillian

    1. Re:Success!! by Trillian_1138 · · Score: 1

      Sorry to reply to my own post. Just wanted to add that I'm in Evanston, Illinois (first suburb north of Chicago). So not a *HUGE* city, but also not tiny.
      -Trillian

    2. Re:Success!! by CokeBear · · Score: 1

      and all that will still cost less than a PS3

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  47. Rather wait by kahrytan · · Score: 2, Insightful


        I would rather wait for Costco Wii console bundle, which the price will probably end up just below $250 with a game and an ccessory or two.

        You should have seen how fast 360 Bundle went last christmas. Just below $500 and you get a game, charger and two wireless controllers. Of course, it still available today.

    So screw you Gamestop, I'll stick with my local wholesaler.

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  48. There is no pre order... by eulalie · · Score: 1

    My local EB opens in 8 mins. I called the store at 8am this morning.. 2 hours before they even open.. I asked if there was a chance at getting a Wii preordered and he said no. My guess is the preorders don't really exist and if they do the employees are taking them all. I got my preorder for this system about 2 weeks ago through another company, but Game Stop/EB have won't be taking any real preorders today.. just like they didnt on the PS3.

  49. Time loop! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Posted by Hemos on Friday October 13, @09:40AM
    from the come-and-get-it dept.
    [ Nintendo ] [ Games ] Punkster812 writes
    "Tomorrow, Friday October 13th

    Great, so we're stuck on today until SG-1 comes and breaks us out?

  50. Pwii-order adventure by wooden+pickle · · Score: 1

    I toyed with the idea of not pre-ordering because I suspect there will be tons of units available at launch, but decided to go ahead and try. I've GOT to have a Wii.

    So, one of our GameStops (Austin) opens at 9:00. I figure if I get there at 8:15-8:30 that would be plenty early. On the way there, I pass an EBGames, which opens at 10:00, and there's already a HUGE line. Sure enough, the GameStop had a long line as well. I decide to try another GameStop closer to where I live, and get there around 8:30. It already had a fairly long line as well. I -might- have gotten a console there, and I'm certain I would have if I had started with that one. But, I didn't want to risk sitting in line for nothing, so I decide to try one more EBGames in a mall nearby. SCORE! The employees were already there, and were just handing out numbers through the gate. After their 11 slots filled, they turned people away, which I thought was nice of them. Anyways, they opened up early and got everyone fixed up.

    I'm glad I didn't wake up early for nothing. That would have made me wiip.

  51. Waited at local EBGames since midnight CST by wilgibson · · Score: 1

    I was the second person in line... Got my system, and extra wiimote and nunchuk pre-ordered! I had lots of fun playing Mario Kart DS with the guy that was thre before me. Can't wait until the 19th of November. Twilight Princess FTW!

  52. I Just Placed Mine by Poeir · · Score: 1

    I just placed mine this morning, 10:20 Central, after arriving at almost exactly 7 AM. The people earliest in line had been there since 5 AM. Only the first eight people in line were able to place preorders, but with a target of six million systems out before Christmas, I'm predicting this isn't the last wave of purchases we'll be seeing. Still, the line had more than doubled before opening, despite reports from the employees that only eight preorders were available and people having left the line.

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  53. Employees!! by barjam · · Score: 1

    At the two locations my wife tried this morning, the employees had reserved all the copies. Nice.

  54. EB only had 14 Pre-orders by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Luckly, I was #12 in line and the EB games here only had 14 pre-orders. They charged $50 + $10 for remote and $10 for nunchuck. The guy seemed to think they were going to get a lot more in on release date, and thought the pre-order thing was silly.

    I couldn't believe the remote is $39 and the nunchuck was $19, so assume your Wii's are going to be $60 more then you thought.

  55. Wii preorder by BSonline · · Score: 1

    I just left my local EBgames. They only did 2 preorders, because they don't to do them all at once. Also, a preorder does NOT guarantee you a launch console. So, why can't they take my money for something they don't know if they'll have available?

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  56. according to my calculations by fudgy73 · · Score: 1

    ok this is probably wayyy off but there are a total of about 4400 gamestops/eb games worldwide. nintendo is shipping 1 million units to the united states alone. A wild guess would say that about 40% of those units will go to Gamestop/ebgames and the rest would go to circuit city/bb/walmart/target etc. so if one divides 400,000 by 4000 (saying there are 400 outside of the US conservatively) you get 100 units/store. That makes me think that there are going to be plenty of Wiis available at launch (even if there were 50/store). Very smart move by nintendo because there will be a lot of parents come christmas time who can't get their hands on a PS3 that will just get the Wii instead.

    1. Re:according to my calculations by KylePflug · · Score: 1

      Why in the world would they give anywhere near 40% of the units to Gamestop/EB? Most of them are going to the Best Buys, Wal Marts, and Costcos of the world, where most of them will sit in distribution centers for online sales. The number that appears on a gamestop shelf is likely one of the SMALLEST pieces of the pie; even Gamestop is going to hold on to them and sell them online instead.

  57. Bah. Yer all puppets of marketing hype by kent_eh · · Score: 1

    The lase game console I bought was a Super Pong.

    Seriously.

    Last year.

    New old stock from a small town Radio/TV repair shop that was shutting down (retirement) after 40 years in business.

    It completely freaks people out when I connect it to my tuner card and play it on my computer!

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  58. From 9:30 PM Thursday to 10:00AM friday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thats the period of time I camped. Needless to say I was first. The guys closing the gamestop gave me a gangs of london demo and shook my hand. They were kind of amazed. No one showed up till 5am. Only 14, tons of people had to be turned away. I never thought of myself as the sort who would go out and freeze for over half a day just to lay down a pre order but hey, I'm getting what I want.
    I've never been this excited about a game system launch ever.

  59. Wii supplies by meringuoid · · Score: 1

    This is strange. I ordered my Wii at Gamestation in Birmingham at 16:04 on 29th September. They'd been taking preorders for quite a while by then. I very much doubt there'll be any shortage - I was told that Nintendo had been ringing the store to ask how many they wanted - but I wanted to be certain I could get the thing on the release day. Possibly there's some problem with the earlier launch in the US? Or is this a marketing trick to make Wii seem scarcer than it is?

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    1. Re:Wii supplies by rmccann · · Score: 1

      Pre-ordered my Wii on Monday 25th in Dublin. And it's coming out in the USA before europe...

  60. Another EB sob story by nlawalker · · Score: 1

    From posts I've read on this thread and others, it sounds like a few people have been outright lied to by EB/GameStop regarding the PS3 or Wii. You can toss my story on that stack too.

    The EB games at Northgate Mall in Seattle told customers that if they preordered a Wii game (for which preorders were available weeks ago) that you would be called the day before the console was able to be preordered. If you confirmed that you wanted one and could come in and pay before end of day Friday (as if anyone wouldn't - why would they get a game and not the system?), that your spot in line would be the same spot that you preordered the game in and you wouldn't have to wait in line for the store to open.

    I was the ninth or tenth person to preorder a game (Zelda, of course). I got my phone call last night to inform me that "the store is opening at 9 AM tomorrow morning so you may want to get there early." Asking some confused questions, I confirmed that they reneged on the deal. The reason I preordered a game is that, like many people, I have a job and can't wait outside of a video game store at 8 in the morning.

    Guess I'll call around and see if anyone has any guaranteed-launch-day-availability preorders tonight. If not, I suppose I'll join those that will simply head to Target, Wal-Mart or Best Buy on launch day and hope for the best, or maybe even wait for a while and see what Costco offers for a bundle. I would have liked to have one guaranteed on launch day, but it sounds like with the availability they have I should likely be able to get one before the holidays with no problem.

    1. Re:Another EB sob story by Kent+Simon · · Score: 1

      I had a similar experience. I preordered Zelda TP, and was told I would be called when preorders were available. I never even received a phone call. Granted I knew the preorder was today but I have a job.

      Kinda makes the whole point of preordering the game pointless... I'm sure gamestop is happy to invest my $5 though :-/

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  61. So what??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As far as I am concerned Nintendo is dead and has been since the days of SNES. I already have an Xbox 360 and am waiting for the PS3 to get a price drop... I have no need for a poor excuse of a game console.

  62. Got Mine by thesaint05 · · Score: 1

    Got there at 9:15 with 8 in front. By the time it opened, all 34 slots were gone and he was still turning people away. Other stores I called only had 8-15, whereas others were allotted up to 40.

  63. Ya pays yer nickel, ya takes yer chances by dangermouse · · Score: 4, Informative
    From the EBGames site:
    ... a reservation deposit does not guarantee receipt of a system available to purchase at launch.

    That's not a reservation, it's a carnival game. I was going to preorder a Wii at the EBGames that's less than half a mile from my house, but screw it. What's the point?

    1. Re:Ya pays yer nickel, ya takes yer chances by RichDiesal · · Score: 1

      This is just a guarantee to cover their collective asses if Nintendo doesn't ship as many systems as they say they will. My guess is that EB/GameStop Corporate received word of how many total systems that they'd receive, which they allotted down to stores (and online distribution) as they saw fit. I was assured that as long as Nintendo delivered the number of systems that they said they would, everyone that pre-ordered (including me) would get a system.

      And as for the story, I got to my local GameStop (in Minneapolis) at 9AM, which put me in the #10 spot for the 10AM opening. After there were 14 of us (about 10 minutes later), the manager came out and told us that there were only 14 pre-orders available. Lucky us. We turned away at least 10-15 more people that came by before 10AM, and a few more after 10AM.

    2. Re:Ya pays yer nickel, ya takes yer chances by dangermouse · · Score: 1
      This is just a guarantee to cover their collective asses if Nintendo doesn't ship as many systems as they say they will.

      So? Why is that ok?

      Without that clause, if EBGames doesn't have the system they promised me, then we have a problem. If they don't have it because Nintendo promised to ship it but didn't, then EBGames and Nintendo have a problem. EBGames has to make good to me somehow, and (not that it makes any difference to me) Nintendo probably has to make good to EBGames somehow. That's how business works. This clause basically says that if Nintendo doesn't ship the system they promised EBGames (and EBGames in turn promised me), then oh well.

      If EBGames chooses to cover its ass in this fashion, then there's no point in dealing with EBGames. They've basically written into the deal the phrase "by the way, our supplier cannot be trusted, so we cannot be trusted either". So screw 'em.

    3. Re:Ya pays yer nickel, ya takes yer chances by SkippyDoorknob · · Score: 1

      They're just covering their bases in case something unexpected happens - a delay in the launch, the delivery truck crashes on the way to the store and burns up, etc.

    4. Re:Ya pays yer nickel, ya takes yer chances by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It *would* be ok if they were just putting your name on a list. But they are actually requiring a $50 deposit.

    5. Re:Ya pays yer nickel, ya takes yer chances by dangermouse · · Score: 1
      It *would* be ok if they were just putting your name on a list. But they are actually requiring a $50 deposit.
      right on, AC. quoted for visibility.
    6. Re:Ya pays yer nickel, ya takes yer chances by Raenex · · Score: 1
      They're just covering their bases in case something unexpected happens - a delay in the launch, the delivery truck crashes on the way to the store and burns up, etc.

      Or there's a huge demand and some enterprising employees / store owners decide to sell them for more money on Ebay or in bundles. Inflated prices on a hot toy at Christmas time and all.

  64. It took a while to post by Punkster812 · · Score: 1

    I guess it took them a really long time to post, because when i sent the news to Slashdot, it was Thursday October 12th at like noon. I kinda thought they just skiped over it.

  65. I posted this a day earlier (in line) by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    and also gave links to some of the WSJ and Fortune articles about how the Sony PS3 parts shortage means it will be harder to get a PS3 than to get a Wii, but that the Wii is still in every game store's top three anticipated hot sellers this year.

    My son's down there with a friend from high school lined up to preorder a Wii - $50 at EBX at Pacific Place in Seattle - they had 8 people lined up outside the mall at 2 am (friend's older brother is 8th in line) and there were about 20 when I dropped my son and his friend off to wait for the 10 am store opening.

    There's another store 2 blocks away, just in case, at Westlake Mall, but they open doors later, but same store opening time.

    Don't worry, you can always get it at Target, Best Buy, Costco, and other stores if you miss out on the pre-order for this one.

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  66. a true gaming hero by MooseTick · · Score: 1

    " it just goes to prove real gamers dont use the EB/Gamestop monopoly on game shops anyway. Ill just show up at Target or Best Buy when the Wii comes"

    I see. All the "real" gamers get their gear at Target and Best Buy.

    1. Re:a true gaming hero by falcon5768 · · Score: 1

      That or online through Amazon or if your hunting down old copys, ebay. Everyone who knows games knows EB overcharges used games, and never has enough copys of new games unless you pre-order.

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    2. Re:a true gaming hero by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Real gamers have long since realized that Gamestop isn't the cheapest store available and that other stores have larger shelves, less cramped interors and don't try to push warranties, subscriptions or other crap on you.

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  67. Re:Success!! but you forgot something by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    dude, you forgot to preorder Mario Galaxy and Spore!

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  68. Guys... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love how everyone is conveniently leaving out "As we cannot control production and shipping issues from the manufacturer..."

    I can't count the number of times I didn't recieve something in a distro or didn't recieve enough just to have some whiny little idiot take it as a personal assault. The only reason I sometimes hate my job is the people. Before you go off about GS/EB, put yourself in our shoes.

  69. Re:Huh? or how many Wii units R there? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Nintendo plans on having 10 million units ready by Christmas, well over there expected original estimate of 7 million. In contrast the 360 had 250,000 units ready last year and the PS3 only 400,000 expected by christmas.

    In the duplicate slashdot submission I made about the EBX and Gamestop preorders yesterday, I mentioned that Nintendo has 10 million units worldwide, but only 4 million for the US market.

    Gamestop and EBX only get some of the allocation. Target, Best Buy, and Costco have their own allocations. If you can't get a preorder from EBX or Gamestop (same company, same allocation), you should be able to get them from any of the other game console sellers.

    Worst case - phone up all the stores in your area and see WHO is selling them on launch day - and go to one of the less popular ones. People tend to queue up at the fancy mall stores, so think about going to a smaller outlet instead.

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  70. Pre-Order Success by kmhebert · · Score: 1

    I used some comp time at work so I could get to EB Games in Sturbridge MA early. There were 4 people in line when I got there at 9:00, the first people in line got there at 7:30. There were 14 people waiting when the store opened and I pre-ordered the Wii and 3 Wii remotes and 3 Wii nunchucks. I had also previously pre-ordered Zelda, Excite Truck, Wario Ware, and Madden 2007. I didn't get a phone call and the email I got from EB Games contained only graphics (I use PINE) and they weren't attached to the email so I had no idea what it said exactly. I was unable to place a pre-order on the S-video cable unfortunately. Now I have to wait for the delivery. Do you think they will sell units prior to the official launch date? We know they won't be taking delivery Sunday November 19 so they will have to have units in stock before then. I plan on calling EB Games before the launch to confirm, I hope they do a midnight launch party at a minimum. I intend to get there extra early because I really want to get mine on launch day.

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  71. Re:Once again... or how not to panic by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    I agree, I bought a number of consoles on game day launch at Costco. Plus, they tended to sell them in a bundle with a few extra games, so it was usually worth it.

    If you miss out on the EBX/Gamestop preorder, plan on going to Costco or Toys-R-Us or Target on launch day in the morning - head straight for the game area - this includes Fred Meyer (yes, they sell games). Price is usually the same, but less lines.

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  72. Re:Where are all the replies? oops ... by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    In Seattle wireless joe, we post from our laptops as we wait outside game stops drinking coffee from the next door starbucks.

    Exactly. I guess the rest of America doesn't have wireless everywhere - about half the city has pretty much free wireless or you can buy coffee and use it. Most of us have laptops with wireless or blackberry or something.

    When I dropped of my son at Pacific Place for the EBX line there, there were about 20 people, probably half of them had laptops.

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  73. Re:Success!! but you forgot something by Trillian_1138 · · Score: 1

    I was limiting myself to preordering games that are coming out with the launch of the system.
    -Trillian

  74. My EB did the same thing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Except I was one of the lucky ones. Barely.

    I wasn't sure I wanted a Wii, so I decided at the last minute to preorder one anyway. I could always sell it for a profit if I decided I didn't want it later.

    So I showed up at the mall at 9:45am, and strolled over to EB. Nobody was in line. I wandered over to a calendar cart which had just opened up when another guy went over to the gate and asked the employee about the resevations. I was surprised when he passed him a clipboard throught he bars, had him sign his name, and gave him a number. WTF! So I went over immediately and got number 7. I think they had 12 units total. But the guy wouldn't tell me how many units he was getting. He said they were told not to tell people because they might get robbed. I asked him how I was to know then if the money I was putting down was going to guarantee me a system. He assured me that I would get a system. So I took my number and got a coffee and waited till they opened and went in. As soon as the door opened the phone rings, and kept ringing (he kept picking up too) while all 12 people ordered. The people on the phone didn't sound happy that they'd already given away all the systems before the store even opened, and the folks that wandered in at 10am were also rather unhappy that even though they'd arrived right at the opening time they weren't to get a system.

    I suppose it doesn't really matter that they did it this way cause either way the people that were late wouldn't get a system, but on the other hand, some people might have wandered the mall after seeing no line and then missed out because there was no sign telling them to sign up before they open.

    Anyway, I preordered the system, an additional wiimote and nunchuck, the 512 memory card, and zelda. There really weren't any other games that seemed like they were worth getting for the launch that would use the controller effectively. Good thing it comes with those sports games. I hope they're two player.

  75. One of my local Gamestops had 28 by Xenious · · Score: 0

    Of which I was number 21 just walking up to the store at 10am. Granted I hate to wait in a line and the going was sloooooooow.

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  76. Too little too late by goetzAThome · · Score: 1

    By the time this article had been posted, my local EB (Sudbury, MA) had been out of pre-orders for an hour. Of course, that's why I was there @ 5:50AM, first in line, today I am the Alpha-Geek. (We got in some good multi-player DSing as well.)

  77. Hate to break it to you....but by aztektum · · Score: 1

    uhm... ALL the new consoles are just overpowered sequels to their predecessors. Besides better looking games, what else is new about the X360 or PS3 compared to the Xbox and PS2?

    Now, what is new about the Wii compared to the Gamecube? Yeah, see. Gamecube Turbo or not, it's still the only console actually attempting something different. That's the hook people are interested in.

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  78. What are you getting? by Jestrzcap · · Score: 1

    Ask an EB employee what you are getting for your $50 dollars. It sure isn't a guarentee that you will get a Wii on day 1. Just a guarentee that they will probably sell it to you before they sell it to someone who didn't pre-order.... maybe. EB can get stuffed, how about they provide me with service rather than taking my money for nothing?

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    1. Re:What are you getting? by jma05 · · Score: 1

      > rather than taking my money for nothing?

      They are not taking your money for nothing. It goes towards eventual payment of Wii. You are paying a small portion of the usual cost in advance, to be sold the product slightly in advance. Don't like it? Don't pre-order it. I am not.

  79. Very Limited by The+Raven · · Score: 1

    My local gamespot has only a few available... I was lucky to have been let in early a couple hours before they opened. There were 6 people getting there early... and the EB guy said cryptically that a mere three were 'a significant percentage' of what they were allocated. I'm guessing 10 or less, but it was at least 6 (he didn't turn anyone away that was there).

    Just glad I got mine in.

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  80. Re:Success!! but you forgot something else by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Ah. Ok. But where's Rayman's Rabid Rabbits?

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