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Guerrilla Drive-Ins
An anonymous reader submits "A NY Times story yesterday talked about a new fad sweeping the underground: guerrilla drive-ins. Essentially, someone sets up a DVD player, LCD projector, and wireless transmitter next to any blank wall (preferably on someone else's property - to make it more fun), and people come to watch movies. As you would expect, the movie studios aren't too thrilled." The idea that this is a notable fad reminds of when the residents of Doonesbury's Walden jokingly informed intrepid reporter Roland Burton Hedley, Jr. ("Rollie") about imaginary trends in the college drug scene. On the other hand, anything that knocks down the price of projectors is fine with me!
Drive about 30' behind a semi....now thats road trippin'
I thought most (if not all) DVDs come with a warning about not being used for public performances.
Try not. Do or do not, there is no try.
-- Dr. Spock, stardate 2822-3.
so when can i see, catwoman..
Hurmph. When I was a kid, we watched shadows on cave walls and we LIKED it.
this was really common with me and my friends while i was at Texas A&m university. One of my friends who went to a Naval Academy said they even did it there. (they even put porn on the side of a building and only got in mild trouble for it) I guess if it's so well known it means my friends and I aren't as nerdy as we thought. Yay?
It's done best with the Yatta video
Who is doing this in the Toronto Ontario area, I'll fucking crash a movie, especially in some old ladies back yard!
I feel like a member of the trendy youth of tomorrow. This is how I saw the Matrix for the first time...wall of a dorm at MIT, couple of years ago.
Che would be proud of all us guerilla drive-in commandos.
If you have to ask, you'll never know.
According to the RIAA, if you rent or buy a movie, its for you only. Not your family, or your friends, but yours. If you let someone borrow it, or someone else watches it with you, its illegal. Of course they're pissed off. I think this is a great idea though. I'd do it if I were rich and had the $$ to bribe the police to sit down and shut up, because they'd bust the gathering thinking it was some kind of bizarre ritual.
Job? I don't have time to get a job! Who will sit around and bitch about being broke and unemployed then?
What next, playing your stereo at a party at a friends house will be illegal? What the hell is the world coming to?
I have difficulty seeing my projector sometimes on my cream, flat, wall. Are there that many buildings kicking around that have surfaces suitable for a projector to throw a visible picture on?
"I think everyone is an agnostic but just doesn't know" - Frazz
how difficult it must be to be an MPAA executive?
Just imagine how difficult it must be, laying awake at night, haunted by the thought that someone, somewhere out there, might be enjoying themselves.
Sounds similar to what I do when I throw a party. Set up a large screen in my backyard, directly behind an old trampoline, and watch it whilst hanging out and bouncing around with friends. Trampolines are only mildly less fun with over a dozen people.
Banaaaana!
currently doing it in houston?
http://chrono.posterous.com/
the consuming public doesn't pay the big bad Corporations for the "privilege".
We used to draw things on slides, and then project them with a slide projector out of our windows, when I was a kid.
We would draw swirfly ligns and project them onto the road at night to confuse cars driving by.
We would also draw funny faces and project it on our neighbours house. He would always open his window and yell at us. We drew the pictures such that him opening the window would be the "animated" part of our picture. I'll leave the themes we chose up to your immagination.
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I assume that this is pretty rare. Even if you do set up this think on the side of a house, etc, how many people do you expect to show up? A drive in? How many cars can most people get in thier yard anyway?
I bet it's pretty hard to set this up for a large scale operation.
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According to "The Importance Of..." which has been tracking the INDUCE Act relentlessly, the NY Times article violates the INDUCE Act itself: Hatch's Hit List #16 - The New York Times
I'm not sure I understand why the movie studios would have a problem with this. Since it's kind of roving movie theater, almost all the people that are going to be there are going to be invited. This means that you're probably not going to have any more people watching the movie than you might invite to your house to watch a movie some night.
Of course, if you remember your history you might know that when the idea of home video was first proposed it was rejected by most studios (despite the fact that it only allowed you to watch a movie once) because they wouldn't be able to control how many people would watch it.
I've always wondered what a drive by shooting is.
I guess it's the opposite to a drive by screening like this one?
I'm going to one of these shows tonight. To make it even more gorilla it's a film festival of old WWII anti-german and anti-japanese propaganda cartoons and the movie Outfoxed.
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My DVDs are licensed for "noncommercial home use only." If you are projecting on the side of a home, and you don't charge admission, seems to me you are in total compliance with the license terms as written by the studios' high-priced lawyers. (Yes, it is a public performance, but the license trumps copyright law.) If the studios don't like it, how about tearing down some Wal-Marts and resurrecting the drive-ins that were torn down to build the Wal-Marts? Or how about building drive-ins atop the roofs of the Wal-Marts?
People of the future will have their endorphine production glands removed by RIAA/MPAA agents. Then you will have to buy endorphine from a vending machine. But no sharing.
That should read "endorphin"
...then I'm going to throw F9/11 watching parties up until the election. I waived my boycott of the MPAA to go see the movie, and I will waive my boycott of them to buy a DVD of it.
.SIG, is Official Regime Change Day in the US. That is, if it's not postponed...ugh...
Unfortunately I don't have access to a SVGA projector. If I did, I have a DVD player (a player, not a computer with a DVD drive, simplicity rules) that is currently set up to output video out its SVGA port.
Hopefully someone with an SVGA projector and a copy of F9/11 might get inspired to set up guerilla drive in showings between the September release date and November 2nd. Which, as you can read from my
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
When film was very new (1900's, 1910's, even into 1920's), projectionists would travel from town to town and show films this way, outdoors.
There is a semi-regularly scheduled monthly movie showing like this in the San Francisco Bay area these days.
The game of Go (Igo, Weiqi, Baduk) has the simplest concept and the deepest play.
Furthermore, a few years ago they tried to force the churches and kindergartens to pay a fee for singing hymns and children songs. The public furor forced them to back off, but now they're trying it again and in certain parts of Finland they've already succeeded.
The Dutch equivalent of the MPAA didn't like it, but I don't think the makers of the film would have objected much. Looks like great publicity for the movie.
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forgive me for reading not reading the article as I don't want to bother with registration, but whats the wireless transmitter for? Audio?
I do security
Banana flavoured popcorn anybody?
I'm not the only one who had to re-read the headline am I?
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I'm sitting here looking at a DVD of F9/11. Beautiful projector rip from what I understand (and see :)...
Yes.
Yes, it's illegal, and the article states that it's illegal.
This isn't a real geek thread until you show me how to make my own friggin' projector!
Here's a kooky idea: why not use such a setup to promote knowledge of copyrights and the public domain? Show films that are in the public domain, and include a short bit to explain why such showings are legal, while showing other films is not. Besides showing good classic movies, or providing an opportunity for impromptu MST3K participation, you could actually educate people and make them more aware of how intellectual property issues affect them. Just an idea.
There is much pleasure to be gained in useless knowledge.
Personally I insist that my entire family be blindfolded and have ear plugs inserted while I sit down for a movie (as to not break any copyright laws) seems fair doesn't it?
True, the MPAA most directly cares about movies published by major American studios, but last time I checked, the RIAA also cared about those movies whose soundtrack contains a recording licensed from an RIAA label, which is a rather large fraction of them.
If it's not illegal now, you can bet that the RIAA will fix that very quickly. I imagine that the easiest way to do that would be to limit the number of people who can legally watch one DVD to 1. Then blockbuster will have an excuse to bump of their prices. So when you go to the cash register they'll ask you "how many people will be viewing this movie today" and charge you accordingly. I'm so used to being screwed by the RIAA that I can see it coming.
There are two well-known music videos for "Yatta!" by Happatai: the official live-action music video, and the "Irrational Exuberance" Flash video by Veloso.
Of course, they'd likely be arrested, so... maybe not such a good idea.
(And did anybody else have an image of gorillas in cars when you read the title?)
They say the first thing to go is your penis. Well, it's either that or your brain. I forget which...
Thanks for the reminder to go make my monthly contribution to Bush/Cheney 2004...
Seriously - nutjobs like you make me want to see Bush win, even if I didn't think he was the better man. I get all giggly ust thinking about you writhing on the floor with froth spewing from your mouth as Bush wins another four years.
That's how the planet of the apes started! Get your stinking DLP off me.
Why not download it now? M. Moore said it's okay. You can find it on http://suprnova.org or some other site like it.
I have always felt that watching a movie on DVD at home alone is a boring way to see the movie... and watching it in theatres to be a ExperiencE.
You know , it really feels very nice inside to watch a movie with a gathering ( i have only been to Open Air Drive In Theatre so far..),along with the various hues the sky takes when the sun settles down...
But the only serious disadvantage ii feel is the absence Of the D T S Sound effects( SDDS,etc)...It may be okay if u r seeing a old movie, but not for the latest ones with so much special effects...You think the Fm radio in car will do any justice to the DTS effect (which is avlble in most theatres)
But then........Sheesh!!! ...P O R N !!would be helluva fun to watch from inside car,with some chicks(if u lucky enough :P)...hmmmm.....
that word
Oh no! now why did i bring up PORN here!
Why does yahoo do this
Was it a pr0n DVD?
Stop the world; I need to get off.
And RIAA will go in with MPAA to purchase a few more votes in congress.
The tighter they try to increase their grip the more things will slip through.
somebody's got a homo crush on Kerry.
"That is, if it's not postponed...ugh..."
Um, yeah... "Ugh" indeed. You do realize that current planning to postpone elections would be in response to a terrorist attack, and not just because Dick Cheney says so, right? Fucking asshat.
I'm glad you enjoy gobbling up the paranoid pablum that the loony left spoonfeeds you, because you're going to get lots more of it once Bush/Cheney win in November.
wireless transmitters
LCD projectors
DVD players
gotta stop those pirates
gotta stop that pirate technology
The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
If you want to rant ("used to being screwed by the _______"), it is best to get your bogeyman right.
It's not the RIAA, it's the MPA or the MPAA that would be involved with DVDs which show moving images, not simply recorded audio.
MPA is the Motion Picture Association. MPAA is the Motion Picture Association of America. See MPA.
RIAA is the Recording Institute (for audio recordings).
The game of Go (Igo, Weiqi, Baduk) has the simplest concept and the deepest play.
I hear Debbie is doing it in Dallas.
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Most voters simply don't have the attention span to digest the facts. They need heaping spoonfuls of mental sugar to get even the tiniest portion of these dull facts down. That's why CNN and FOX and the rest do so well.
I'm not saying it's right, but propoganda is the lingua franca of the average citizen. You can't have a meaningful political discussion with most people because they're awash in mindless rhetoric from their radio to their television set and everything in-between.
Moore operates at that level, and I'm not surprised that he's finally encountered resounding success. And it's a good movie. Whether or not it was deliberately or indeliberately misleading takes a backseat to whether it was entertaining -- much as it does in all our major resources for information these days.
Try not. Do or do not, there is no try.
-- Dr. Spock, stardate 2822-3.
I would never know about all this stuff if the news didn't keep giving me such detailed instructions on whats new and hip in the we-don't-want-people-doing-this category. Let's hope they show the cheapest place to get projectors.
BTW, Here is an earlier story
they show "Planet of the Apes"?
"Get your stinkin paws off me, you damn dirty Ape!"
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Why have such a fit when some light is shed on a liar who is deceitful, a drunkard, AWOL, and completely imcompetant?
Far as I am concerned:
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So if somebody wants to show a movie that makes people *think* and do research on the American Furor, more power to you. This would be a great way since Moore just wants no profit gained over watching his movie outside a theater. Time to ebay for that projector MsGeek!
Hypocrit in action:
Bush states "Go about your normal lives" in the face of terror...yet his Regime pushes to delay elections instead of going about our normal lives and getting those crooked liars out of office.
imagine a garage that faces a suitible office building, at dusk, you drop a screen down the side of a building, and watch from the correct side of a parking garage roof- great dual purpose facility....
every day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random
The embarassing thing for the parent is that upon reading the carefully selected "deciets" you'll find that most are small nit-picking, and others are gross assumptions. This all seems incredibly hypocritical.
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How is the parent and this reply on topic?
Please mod down people who tell Mods how to do their job.
Now kindly fuck off, mr. trans_err
To perform or display a work 'publicly' means:
(1) to perform or display it at a place open to the public or at any place where a substantial number of persons outside of a normal circle of a family and its social acquaintances is gathered; or
(2) to transmit or otherwise communicate a performance or display of the work to a place specified by clause (1) or to the public, by means of any device or process, whether the members of the public capable of receiving the performance or display receive it in the same place or in separate places and at the same time or at different times.
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Rate -3 for old-timer nostalgia.
Vote Quimby!
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In the early days of the film industry the movie studios selected Hollywood for a couple of reasons: the climate was mild, there was a wide variety of terrain and locales, and the poor roads and isolated conditions ment that they could dodge Thomas Edisdon and his movie projector patents. Early studios like "Flying 'A' Studios" weren't called flying for nothing. They would pick up their operations and move around to stay one step ahead of the patent police. Isn't it ironic that an industry which decries the infringement of intellectual property was founded on that very infringement?
The law is always "what you can convince a court to accept." It has no real external existence.
When a lawyer talks to his client, he accurately represents what the law will allow the client to do. When he talks to the public, he often lies through his teeth. That's his job... he's an advocate.
Back in my more punkrock days we used to drag and old TV set and VCR downtown and set it up near some park benches. There was an A/C outlet on a lamp post and everybody had a good time watching free flicks...
-*The above statement is printed entirely on recycled electrons*-
in relation to the parent post in which it was a reponse to. It's a called a "tangent." If you don't want to waste moderation points on tangents then that's your business.
"It is the responsibility of the mods to keep this kind of bantering and obvious trolling off of the comment boards."
I didn't realize that countering someone's opinion that showing F9/11 all over town was a good idea, is trolling. Just because you don't agree with me, doesn't make me a troll.
He said it was a good movie, I said it was a bad movie. We're all entitled to our opinions.
You also don't get excellent karma by posting "off-topic tripe" all over Slashdot.
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just curious, does Best Buy or Fry's or whatever
*pay* for the privilege of showing movies on
the huge tv's they have for sale?
I just wonder how this whole thing is handled,
because I can't imagine they would, since it's
basically free advertisement for the movies.
But does anyone know for sure?
WILL be televised.
Don't park drunk, accidents cause people.
Why is that the websites referred to are not only not hyperlinked but even disabled by putting a space after the www bit,
.tikaro.com/gdi.
e.g. , www
This is consistent.
A General Motors URL then, is actually hotlinked to the stockpage of the NYT.
Conspiracy theorists, start your engines...
First of all, I think the fact that this is occuring is a sign that the restriction on exhibition of copyrighted works has gone too far, especially when combined with the DRM which is included in the system. I think that the only *right* solution is to avoid buying or renting such DVD's (ok, I will occasionally buy them used, while that is still permitted, though I sometimes even have a problem with that as it is propping up the salvage value for someone else).
But there is a larger problem here. That is that the content provider industries are used to a system which ensures their livelihood by restricting entertainment material. At the same time, technology is eroding the practical barriers to all manner of copy protections. I believe that more than anything else, this is driving the current trend towards DRM and the so far unsuccessful attempts to legislate it on every computing device sold.
At the same time, for all its grandure, I am not sure that open source techniques are able to reproduce something the likes of a major movie. "Open source" music is certainly possible and profitable and has existed officially or not for thousands of years. Traditional folk music is basically similar methodologically to open source software, except that it tends to be more conservative and decentralized in its approach.
So now you have a problem where copyrights last a hundred years long, DRM is is now backed by the DMCA, and more on the way. On the other hand, technology is continuing to make most of these measures mostly ineffective, and the real pirates make millions of dollars while legitimate users are punished (happens with proprietary software too, re Product Activation).
I have concluded that we as a society are at a crossroads. Either our current system of copyright will be adjusted and we will be more free or we will have additional restrictions placed on our technology which will undermine our access to free *information.*
There is a pitched war in the political world over this. The RIAA/MPAA, etc. won an early victory with the DMCA, but they have been unable to win any other major victories in the US since. Similarly DVD's have become popular but the even more restrictive eBooks have not. So people are also voting with their pocketbooks against such restrictive technology.
There is a lot at stake. I can envision a world where copyrights are perpetually enforced, first through DRM and copyright law, and after the copyright term expires, through contractual restrictions.
I can even see a world where VA Software could be sued under the Induce act for even running the story that began this discussion.
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I went last year and posted a review and some photos up at www.fusionindustries.com/alex/ (scroll down about halfway to see them). In particular, check out the projector and sound rigging. What you can't hear is the awesome music of "Neu!" in the background before the start of the show.
(And yI suspect you're not a lawyer. But that's only my opinion.)
You, and most of your fellow posters, are ignoring the crucial element of intent. If you want to walk into court and play a semantic word game, claiming, "But judge, I projected Star Wars on the side of a church because I wanted to watch it that way. How could I have known 30 strangers were going to congregate and watch it with me? I certainly couldn't control their behavior!"...well, you're perfectly welcome to try that. But you won't be taken seriously -- and the judge won't find you amusing, either.
The actions of complete strangers can indeed be your legal responsibility, in many, many instances; and one such instance is inciting others to illegal activity.
Sorry. Your opinion is just dead, flat, incontrovertibly wrong.
This must be in Canada eh? Anywhere else the equipment will get stolen in the blink of an eye eh?
Oh well, what the hell...
In answer to almost all the "Is it possible to..." and "How hard is to..." questions. The answers is: yes and not hard at all.
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Check out the Santa Cruz Guerilla Drive-In DIY page: www.thespoon.com/drivein/start-your-own.html
In the NYT photo you can see how hi-tech our arrangement is: a VCR, a DVD Player, an Amplifier, and a video switch racked in a milk crate. All of it donated or scrounged. Except for the LCD projector of course, which costs around a thousand bucks for a high luminosity. low wattage one now.
As for being hipsters and slackers the trendsetting youth of the future: don't know nutin about that. We're just poor schmucks who wanted to watch movies with our friends without spending ten bucks a pop.
Other links:
NY Times article minus ads and login: http://www.thespoon.com/drivein/press/nytimes-040
Local press: http://www.thespoon.com/drivein/press/sentinel-04
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The Australian equivalent of the RIAA has started taking dentists to court for illegally broadcasting music to their patients in the office. They are also going after commercial landlords who operate elevators which broadcast music.
It looks like in the future that loudspeakers themselves may be illegal because they broadcast to more than one legitimate 'licence' holder.
So, sit on your driveway, project against the garage door, sell 'I am an official friend of Joe SoapOpera' badges, pocorn and drinks... Hah!
Oh well, what the hell...
Playing them so loud that strangers at the sidewalk can hear, would be considered 'public broadcasting', and thus illegal..
Even in your own home, if the neighbors can hear you, its breaking the 'contract'...
---- Booth was a patriot ----
... I thought about doing this.
I was going to get a pickup truck, a bug collapseable screen, a sound system and a projector and hit the local festival scene. I didn't figure that I'd get rich doing it, but it sounded fun. Then I found out how much the projectors cost, and since I didn't have a ZILLION dollars just laying around I decided to get a real job instead.
Now I guess the price on the proojectors has come down and I could acutally afford to do this -- that is if I didn't have a wofe and kid to support.
Facts, even statistics, need not be dull; they are often just treated in a dull manner. If my tinfoil hat had shown up yet (still on back order), I'd say that They (insert whatever group you want) had planned it that way...having someone old, white, and monotonous talk about important things. They have someone young, hip, and beautiful talk about the entertaining, uninformative junk, and what do people watch?
I agree with you about Moore basically being entertaining propaganda (he's the liberal answer to Rush Limbaugh), but I should warn that saying "most voters have no attention span...are susceptible to propaganda...etc" is a very dangerous thing to say to oneself. If you listen to the people most would consider complete lunatics, at the far right and left of the political spectrum, you'll notice that one of the main credos of both sets are, "People are sheep. If they really thought about things and had the right facts presented to them, they'd be on my side. Too bad $OTHERSIDE, which owns the media and controls the government, has brainwashed them. It's up to me to present the facts they obviously missed, so they can put $MYGROUP in power." It apparently never occurs to such groups that people might not like their extreme ideas or think they're the right ones.
This type of thinking is elitism in one of its nastiest forms, could be (not sure yet) slowly spreading towards the mainstream, and is setting us toward a path of dictatorship, either by the left or right wing (both types of dictatorship are equally bad, I assure you). What other alternative is there to a dictatorship if the people's decisions or way of thinking are not respected?
Although I'm sure a lot of important information drops below the radar screen, oftentimes it's only unimportant to people because people prioritize based on how close the news is to them, not because they're incapable of making good decisions without being told what to do. The fellow poisoning dogs near their neighborhood and the nasty car accident last night get first priority. The guys in suits talking about the economic indicators in dreary voices get last. FOX is not popular because it distributes propaganda; it often doesn't mention politics at all. FOX is popular because it shows people what they are interested in and presents it in an interesting way. Convince people that your news hits them close to home or is worth thinking about, and you've convinced them that your news is worth listening to.
Long rant, I know, and somewhat off your topic, but I've been thinking about it a while and decided to try to formulate it. Feel free to disagree.
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does this all the time. They have a nice big field next to a large blank wall where everyone comes to watch movies every month. They call it "Movies on the Lawn" and it is really cool. I'm not sure how they make sure it is legal but... no one has seemed to care so far.
The GP mentioned a limit of 12-15 people watching a movie at home. I don't know if such a rule actually exists, but I can imagine how one would come about.
At first, you have a general principle, which works as long as everyone respects the boundaries. For instance, you can show your DVD at home, to your friends, but you can't make copies for others or set up a cinema and have people pay you to watch it. (Otherwise, how would studios legitimately make money?) Reasonable people will see that there's a large gap, and nobody will try crossing it.
Then some smart-ass comes along and decided he wants to play games with the definitions. So he has a giant room, has 400 people come over and say they've just become his friends. "But I'm just inviting a few friends over to watch my movies!" (Kind of like how certain "atheletic clubs" were set up to get around anti-boxing laws; the boxers and all spectators had to join the club, and that made it legal.)
Then the other side has to start tightening the definitions by elaborating all the borderline cases. After the semantic arms race has gone on for awhile, the official rules are highly contorted and take up 20 pages.
This happens everywhere. Look at professional sports -- a lot of the highly details rules were put there to deal with one case where someone was able to beat the system for one game by doing something that clearly violated the spirit of some more general rule, but not the letter.
If this is being done in the Wasington DC area. It could be real interesting. Especially if the DOJ raided it and pick up a few Senators, Congressmen, or members of their staffs. Bet that would kill the Induce Act real quick!
Professional Politicians are not the solution, they ARE the problem.
In my town we have a Recreation and Culture Committee which I am a member of. Monthly in the summer we set up a huge screen on one of the fields in town and project a movie, no charge. We've been doing this for years and haven't been caught/shut down yet.
Just curious, how would one go about powering a projector and dvd player outside? A car battery? how long would a projector work on a new car battery? You also need to power the sound system for 2hrs.
Can you get really quiet generators nowdays?
Anything that can get exposure for a picture should be welcomed.
+There are movies that some people wouldn't pay to watch or rent unless it's free. MPAA loses nothing.
+A free movie showing that interests the viewer into buying a DVD? MPAA makes out.
+Really crap movies that _nobody_ would ever care to rent or even waste time to watch at home, might be fun to watch with a crowd. Somebody had to buy/rent it for the guerilla theater. MPAA makes out.
I think the MPAA, like the RIAA, only looks for pure profit, and doesn't stop to think about the intangible benefits that ultimately benefit them later on.
Why do people come up with such silly fads?
You have to think about it. We always hear young people saying "There's nothing to do in our town. We're bored." because in a lot of places (here, especially) everything closes up at 9 or 10pm. Geez, I don't even get home from WORK until 6:30 or 7pm!
There's Borders, and a couple other coffee shops, or the movie theatres, or bars.
This would be a welcome addition to many neighborhoods. What's better? Kids sitting in a field watching movies, or parking in an alley shooting up?
At least it gives bored people something to do in a unique social settings.
Fuck you, MPAA. It's not like they're going to make money off of "The Bad News Bears visit Japan" anymore. Come on.
I'd love to see the financials for that movie. Bet they haven't made any money off of it in years.. copyright be damned.
Hey if you got the gear and you got the dvd from the store - who says you cannot invite friends over to enjoy your legal movie and hardware purchases? - as intended by the manufacturer!!! Wouldn't projection limits be the way to deal with this. Go ahead and project, but only up to 75" or so outside of your home.
Who put the stuff on DVD in the first place? Who's genius idea was it to give the product of theater away through digital projectors - whose at fault!!! It's obviously legal to do or they wouldn't advertise it. Intended or not - here we are. It's technology vs. technology in a free enterprise world. Yes everyone should pay, but whose gonna reorganize the product delivery pricing schedule now?
What your city council might do in the way of legislation to prevent the annoyance of neighboorhood flicker and full surround sound for 2 or 3 hundred guests is a another story.
Enjoy it while it lasts!
Stuff that matters.
I saw this on local TV news, about a church, having family night, and showing family oriented movies, that is, DVDs that had been purchased.
Now the church IS tax exempt, and it is possible that they are not actually exhibiting them for profit, charging admission, which I think we all could agree the FBI warning prohibits. But do you think that the collection plate is NOT passed around? Or that the good will doesn't boost attendance otherwise? Or that as a non-profilt, they would be exempt from misuse anyway? Also, it got a plug on the news. Free Movies at the corner church.
And would Jack Valenti, if he were still head of the MPAA, be calling the SWAT team on them?
The law against public perfomance only applies when you charge admission.
NO NO NO. Do NOT do this. That is a stupid urban legend. Modern forensic science is very advanced and you WILL be caught. Now it looks like you have something to hide, and you have squandered any sympathy the DA or jury might have had for you.
If you kill someone who has burgled your house or attacked you, that is a good thing and you do not need to apologize for it. People will sometimes make statements that they were "sorry" for killing the dirtbag, or that they "regret" it. Don't do this. You have performed a public service.
To protect yourself, make sure witnesses hear you say, as soon after the shooting as possible, something like "He didn't give me any choice! I was sure he was about to kill me!" Then shut up until you talk to a lawyer.
Another thing-- Don't shoot warning shots and don't shoot to wound. Shoot to STOP the attack. You don't have the right to use deadly force unless you reasonably believe your life is in danger. (Such a threat is legally presumed any time someone breaks into an occupied building, under the laws of most US states.)
If you reasonably believe your life is in danger, you may use any force necessary to stop the attack. Therefore shoot for center of mass, as this is most likely to stop it. If you shoot to wound, a smart and vindictive prosecutor will make it look like you were not fearful enough for your life to make any use of deadly force justified.
You must never say so out loud if it happens to you, but killing the perpetrator also ensures that you will not be sued for his nursing home bills if he becomes a lifelong head-injury vegetable. Plus, let's face it, anybody who would burgle a house with people in it is a worthless piece of filth who deserves everything he gets.
Don't go looking for trouble, but if it comes to you, deal with it with sudden ruthless righteous violence. Let it be known you feared for your life, then shut up and take quiet pride in ridding the world of one more worthless waste of oxygen who preyed on decent citizens.
-ccm
Too much Law; not enough Order.
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And I would recommend playing a movie grabbed from p2p before the its official release. That would require balls the size of watermelons to pull that off.
Dude, the NY Times is not the arbitrar of legal. And neither are you.
You might say, "The NY Times thinks its illegal, and so do I, but I am a fucktard and so its just my moronic opinion".
Or you might keep your trap shut.
You were mistaken. Which is odd, since memory shouldn't be a problem for you
When film was very new (1900's, 1910's, even into 1920's), projectionists would travel from town to town and show films this way, outdoors.
And I'm taking every guess that the projectionists did this under license from the owner of copyright in the motion picture.
(Aside: There wasn't a separate form of copyright for movies back then; the author of a motion picture would produce prints of each keyframe and register them as a pictorial work.)
If it's totally wireless, then it's a repeater. Otherwise it's a simple transmitter.
So would this "repeater" category include a box containing a WiFi node, a decoder for lossy audio, a DAC, and a low-power FM transmitter?
will this make the MPAA create new bills against those who buy projectors, requiring you to have a license, or just outright banning them to the public?
Ladies and gentlemen: this is why you should not look for legal advice on Slashdot.
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I think more people will be doing the guerilla drive in once they find out how cheap you can actually build a pretty kick ass video projector. You can build a DIY LCD video projector for about $400-$600 that would smoke any sub $2000 projector. Lumenlab.com sells a guide and just about all the parts you would need to build one. They also have some kick ass pics of projector results here.
You don't want to be hauled off by the cops and be faced with charges of being a danger on the road AND copyright infringement. Merely risking killing people in a crash is far less of a crime then having an illegal movie. They may just throw away the key for the last one.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Never mind that in holland everyone who owned a radio receiver needed to pay a license fee already so that everyone in the store was almost 100% certain already paying for the radio program. They wanted us to pay extra just because of it.
Still it might work on those assholes with cheap headphones in public places. Charge them for all the people who can hear their music. That should soon teach them to get some decent ones that keep the music inside.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
So basically you are not allowed to make "hidden" traps or in anyway deliberatly cause injury to a burglar. So you are allowed a spiked fence but you are not allowed to put up spikes behind the fence hidden under tall grass. You are allowed to use plain glass windows (and if he falls and impales himself on a smashed piece of glass that is not your fault) but you better make sure the glass is properly secured. No little trick with making the glass really lightly attached at the top so that when smashed any shard will come plunging down at the lightest touch.
Same with cars. Any car anti-theft device may not make the car dangerous. So no 100.000 volt charges through the seat or disabling the brakes or fun stuff like that.
Why? As said to stop people from taking the law into their own hands. Or would you prefer to go back to the time when all the land belonged to the local lord and he could have you flogged for "stealing" wood?
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Though it is difficult, that's why I always do my best to make sure as little of my money goes to the RIAA, MPAA, and Micro$oft. Their greed is beyond amazing. Money is the only language they understand, and (worst of all) any money they get from me is only applied toward taking away more of my liberties.
Just another reason why I use Linux, and share just about any file anyone would want.
I wonder, can you rent computer projectors?
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Evan "It's just a jump to the left... damn dumpster"
"$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!" -- JRR "Bob" Tolkien
I see no mention of wireless anything. Wassuuppp
Actually, no. The administration has said that they will not try to delay the elections for any reason. There is no "current planning" to postpone.
Sounds like the 1939 German ruling party philosophy which said that certain lives are "not worthy to be lived," and are to be
euthanized/killed/terminated/exterminated/neutral
Even more so if the burglar is 'UNARMED' and doesn't have a gun/knife/hammer-like object in their hand and they are killed anyway. Why go for the 'center of mass' when you can just 'take them out' with a properly placed head shot if you are a crack shot provided the perps aren't wearing any form of protective armor anywhere on their bodies....
Who knows, the burglar may have hit bottom, became unable to support themself, and turned to a life of crime to meet their needs. I am assuming professional thieves like Frank will not burgle peoples homes no matter how opulent they are or do it without hurting or killing anyone.
Fine, if your house has a burglar alarm, activate it if you can and call 911 if possible (in the USA) then HIDE OR GET OUT OF THE HOUSE!
If you want to use deadly force, go right ahead.
Just make sure you have more ammo and more powerful weaponry than the bad guys breaking in....
PS: By not mentioning the name of the party in power in 1939 Germany or its leader, I have avoided invoking the letter (but alas, not the spirit) of Goodwin's Law.
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Think of really intrusive, offensive was to infringe on people's privacy through technology. Then come up with a paper on the general idea of most/all ways it could function and then patent it and wait till some asshole company comes up with it and slap em.
Why wait for the DVD release when there are bit torrents already out there and Michael Moore has already given personal approval to use it?
OK, I suppose it will be even more effective in October in terms of the election.
But isn't this something that works better durring the summer, and/or warm weather?
It is just fun to stay up late watching a movie outdoors in the summer.
It's a real shame that drive in theatures have gone away.
Nobody died when Nixon lied.
I'm meeting you half way you stupid hippies!