... for what reason do we need this all in one single application?
Because some people want it that way?
There are a lot of alturnatives. If you're a Mozilla fan boy, just use FF if that's all you want. And of course there are always Safari, Chrome, Opera, and even IE...
SeaMonkey might not be for you - don't use it. But it does have a feature set that clearly some people want. Just because it's Open Source, don't feel that you are *required* to use it.
This is a good point: Many (most?) local papers are now nothing more than regurgitation of wire-feeds from the AP or whoever. Who needs to subscribe to the paper for that? And the sale coupons come in the mail now...
Without trying to start a flame war, it's much easier finding an unbaised article online.
I think what you really mean is that it's much easier to find an article on-line that agrees with *your* particular bias, rather than the local newspaper's editor.
The "try before you buy" excuse that people give as a reason to pirate (very popular here at Slashdot) has always been a steaming pile of bullshit, as is the tale that PirateBay is primarily used for legitimate torrent downloads. Pure bullshit. Honestly, it's difficult to take people that say these things seriously.
But of course, information wants to be free as in beer at a frat party. Stallman says so.
How is this any different than, say, the Sierra Club or the FSF urging their members / followers to lobby their politicos on a particular point of view? It's OK for "us" but not for "them"?
if you glance at a program, decide not to bother figuring out how to use it and determine that it sucks only because it's put out by Microsoft then you don't have much of an opinion.
You're describing most of the comments here today. I know that there must be some technical and usability failings, but if Slashdot had a filter to scrub out anecdotal MS hate ramblings, there would not be much left in this story thread.
We use SharePoint, and as a *user*, I really don't have any issues with it, it beats what we had before here at AMC (Air Mobility Command). There are some minor things that I don't like, but nothing that would push me over the edge into a frothy mouthed frenzy. For those that loath Microsoft, there are alternatives, TikiWiki looks quite nice...
but if you've bothered to keep up with security updates you would have the ability to uninstall or disable the plug-in without modifying the registry by hand.
HTC knows that random email requests from $random_slashdotter can be safely ignored. Who is it that administers the GPL? The FSF? HTC needs to get a letter from a real lawyer with a known corporate identity. Until then, they will just keep stalling (stalling Stallman? Hahhaa ha ha...)
But Microsoft, which bears at least part of the responsibility for the mistake, is paying the price with its reputation.
I don't see it. MS is one of those companies people either love or hate. The lovers will say "shit happens, move on" and the haters will say "I told you so". Sum tot = zip.
FastMail.FM operates under Australian law, not US law (although the servers are in the US, they are owned by an Australian company).
The servers are here in the US? I feel safe in speculating that if *you* will not pony up the emails to a US judge, the people who maintain the server farm *here in the US* will. US judges generally couldn't care less about how they do it in whatever country, and, as you said, the servers are here in the US...
Joel Spolsky, and his company Fog Creek, are developing a software-as-a-service form of the StackOverflow engine called StackExchange to support any topic you want.
There are already many BB and wiki systems available. By the way, a little obvious on the Slashvert.
I'd rather lose my laptop and keep my data secure, than keep it and let those draconian thugs invade my privacy.
Yes, people like to say this type of thing. But when it comes down to losing your laptop combined with 6 or 8 hours at the border station under the light verses continuing on to that bar with the donkey and the poll dancer, most people (probably even you) will shut up and give the cops what they want.
Fine, the law says they can conduct a forensic search, but there's no reason I have to make it easy for them.
If you take this approach, it may be some time before you get your device back, if at all. If they find that they *can't* get into it, they will assume there is a reason they *should* get into it, and they will not give it back until they crack it. If they can't, you mey not see it again. So exect to lose youe strongly encrypted device. Hope it didn't cost too much...
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Because some people want it that way?
There are a lot of alturnatives. If you're a Mozilla fan boy, just use FF if that's all you want. And of course there are always Safari, Chrome, Opera, and even IE...
SeaMonkey might not be for you - don't use it. But it does have a feature set that clearly some people want. Just because it's Open Source, don't feel that you are *required* to use it.
My guess is that the number required is of the order log(population), or even possibly a fixed constant after a certain population size.
Can you put that in English please? I was a Liberal Arts major...
This is a good point: Many (most?) local papers are now nothing more than regurgitation of wire-feeds from the AP or whoever. Who needs to subscribe to the paper for that? And the sale coupons come in the mail now...
Without trying to start a flame war, it's much easier finding an unbaised article online.
I think what you really mean is that it's much easier to find an article on-line that agrees with *your* particular bias, rather than the local newspaper's editor.
Looks like the French are on top of it... http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/10/27/france.scientology.fraud/index.html
The "try before you buy" excuse that people give as a reason to pirate (very popular here at Slashdot) has always been a steaming pile of bullshit, as is the tale that PirateBay is primarily used for legitimate torrent downloads. Pure bullshit. Honestly, it's difficult to take people that say these things seriously.
But of course, information wants to be free as in beer at a frat party. Stallman says so.
90% of my friends have migrated away from myspace...
90% of my friends were never "on" MySpace.
You have to understand: The "story" was accepted by Timothy.
I've had basic functionality break between releases and this will not be acceptable for business use.
Unlike Windows where basic functionality breaks between releases and is acceptable for business use?
How is this any different than, say, the Sierra Club or the FSF urging their members / followers to lobby their politicos on a particular point of view? It's OK for "us" but not for "them"?
They'd probably sue Coke if they could find a networked vending machine.
It's been patented: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6462644.html
if you glance at a program, decide not to bother figuring out how to use it and determine that it sucks only because it's put out by Microsoft then you don't have much of an opinion.
You're describing most of the comments here today. I know that there must be some technical and usability failings, but if Slashdot had a filter to scrub out anecdotal MS hate ramblings, there would not be much left in this story thread.
We use SharePoint, and as a *user*, I really don't have any issues with it, it beats what we had before here at AMC (Air Mobility Command). There are some minor things that I don't like, but nothing that would push me over the edge into a frothy mouthed frenzy. For those that loath Microsoft, there are alternatives, TikiWiki looks quite nice...
[citation needed]
MythBusters' Episode 22: Boom Lift Catapult, A/C vs. Open Windows
It's not unlikely that $random_slashdotter actually contributed a few lines to the Linux kernel and thus is legally positioned to ask HTC to cough up.
Actually, it's extreamly unlikly. Strictly from a reality of the numbers standpoint.
but if you've bothered to keep up with security updates you would have the ability to uninstall or disable the plug-in without modifying the registry by hand.
You mean like this? That's *no* uninstalling.
HTC knows that random email requests from $random_slashdotter can be safely ignored. Who is it that administers the GPL? The FSF? HTC needs to get a letter from a real lawyer with a known corporate identity. Until then, they will just keep stalling (stalling Stallman? Hahhaa ha ha...)
But Microsoft, which bears at least part of the responsibility for the mistake, is paying the price with its reputation.
I don't see it. MS is one of those companies people either love or hate. The lovers will say "shit happens, move on" and the haters will say "I told you so". Sum tot = zip.
FastMail.FM operates under Australian law, not US law (although the servers are in the US, they are owned by an Australian company).
The servers are here in the US? I feel safe in speculating that if *you* will not pony up the emails to a US judge, the people who maintain the server farm *here in the US* will. US judges generally couldn't care less about how they do it in whatever country, and, as you said, the servers are here in the US...
Crossing california is not practical on trains.
Works fine in Europe, with all those mountains and such...
I would prefer something with more class, more style, more customization and a price tag that doesn't make one vomit blood.
I've always thought of Lian Li as the top drawr in design, and they have a lot of nice ones for less than $700.
Joel Spolsky, and his company Fog Creek, are developing a software-as-a-service form of the StackOverflow engine called StackExchange to support any topic you want.
There are already many BB and wiki systems available. By the way, a little obvious on the Slashvert.
Lawyers don't make a reputable firm appear any less reputable.
Lawyers don't make a reputable firm appear any more reputable.
'We have a call in to our attorney on this and fully intend to take action that will vindicate us.'
Looks like they plan on a retraction from the author...
I'd rather lose my laptop and keep my data secure, than keep it and let those draconian thugs invade my privacy.
Yes, people like to say this type of thing. But when it comes down to losing your laptop combined with 6 or 8 hours at the border station under the light verses continuing on to that bar with the donkey and the poll dancer, most people (probably even you) will shut up and give the cops what they want.
Fine, the law says they can conduct a forensic search, but there's no reason I have to make it easy for them.
If you take this approach, it may be some time before you get your device back, if at all. If they find that they *can't* get into it, they will assume there is a reason they *should* get into it, and they will not give it back until they crack it. If they can't, you mey not see it again. So exect to lose youe strongly encrypted device. Hope it didn't cost too much...