I think you've hit the nail on the head about Apple reasoning with Mighty Mouse. It's mentioned 2-3 times over the pages for the mouse that it's hand neutral. Also Apple don't call it left or right click, it's always Primary and secondary. It would seem to be one of those Apple quirks, that add up to "it just works".
What I find funny is you rarely see a mouse on the other side of the keyboard, it's easy to change. I know i keep mine on the right, but then again i find mousing is easy, and that frees up my left hand for the more complex task of of 3-4 key combos, common in CAD and graphics.
No lawsuit coming.... All those talks of late to media companies where just tracking down the rights to "mighty mouse", and had nothing to do with the fabled iVideo Store.
I'm trying to find the link.
I'm remember the last one a couple of months ago being the based on research by university I suffered at.
http://www.sustainability.uts.edu.au/research/npr/ eematerials.html
The major difference from what I remember was there system used a flexible polymer tube, that has the same total internal reflection effect as fibre optics, yet is easier to handle and much cheaper.
Why not play Paper Wiki.... Each person is given a piece of paper and ask to write a question or statement at the top. Any thing they like, but suggest a recipe that they like or the paper plane. When passes to left. The next person responds to the question but can only write on every 4th line. pass again but the next person every other line. pass again but from now people can add comments where they like.
All the while make it fun and chat about open source but in the more abstract ideas, like sharing a passion, a hobby. Ways of interacting. Keep it positive, and talk about the oppertunities the approach gives.
Unless everyone is a techincal person talking about virus and spam, and weakness is going to bore them.
Now just before the paper get back to the orginal author, collect them all , tease them with some of the good information "who would have thought you could use a Carrot that way" and ask how much they are willing to pay for the answer. Hopefully they should Laugh or at least react.
"or we could open source the answer. you get it for free. The condition is the answer has to stay open to anyone who's interested."
Working with CAD on both Windows and Mac, one hand mouse point click and the like. One hand calling tools via various key commands.
I think Windows Should change the position of the control key to match Mac's Command Key. after a day of 2,3 & 4 key combos you really notice how much nicer the command key is in that position.
I'm not sure how this simple thing counts as Zealotry, but if it does I'm guilty. Long live the Command Key, bringer of pain free days.
What if that website was one of the major banks in Australia?
The Online banch of the bank I have my custom with is already telling users to dump IE and use something else. Including handy links to download pretty much any other browser in nice easy to understand pages based on the system the person is using.
I wonder if they are planning to lock out IE altogether in the future?
A monorail and a guitar playing robot just like the one discribed.
At least that robot could play the full range. but still wasn't as impressive as the idea sounded, after all the guitar was so lost inside the machine as to be hard to what it was.
Along the same lines I was thinking Medical Uses. Etch prescriptions or treatment information on to the nail. Finger scan at Chemist to get the prescription filled and any repeats. If your in a accident the paramedics and ER could have a detailed record of anything that may effect their treatment options.
Sure you don't have enough space for an xray of a broken limb but more than enough for highly useful information.
So the nail grows out but drugs also clear our systems over time, so the position of the information on the nail will also tell them how long since the treatment was taken.
Also Less privacy concern as information is not stored on some random database, but in proximity to the person.
Not true some of us mac users are Homosexual Architects.
or homosexual grahpic designer, web designers
oh wait i know a few straight Mac users but their pretty metrosexual.
I know a few homosexual Linux Zealots.
The only Windows zealots in know are Lesbians.
I'm not sure Apple M.O. has changed at all. I think you'll find that Apple was never a hardware company, nor are they now a software company. After all the original Apple was a computer designed by the Woz to run an implementation of BASIC that he'd written on paper, based on a processor he'd read the spec for. The same concept of an appliance can be seen in the iPod, the Newton, all the Iconic Mac's.
It's a chicken and Egg situation if you want to see it in pure terms of Hardware/software.
Intel is a hardware company they fab their own product Microsoft and Adobe are Software companies the code there own product.
Apple makes the full widget, a complete product.
Yes it is made of parts, much like GM or BMW build cars from parts, They design an experience, a tool if you will then write software and build hardware to make that happen.
What sets Apple apart is they make the full package.
If Apple stop making the experience and just become another parts maker. Someone else will fill that gap in the market, maybe B&O or Bose.
Hey it really surprises me more companies aren't doing it already, or are they (M$ and xBox)? After all the parts market is crowded. Applicance market is ripe, and with Linux and other Open source most of the part are there for the choosing.
Well it would seem both Steve are doing the same thing.
i.e.. working for token salary doing things they take joy from, while treating education as an opportunity not a requirement.
If that i key to being worth only half a billion, then sign me up.
It's sounds like the key to a pretty happy life regardless of the cash, to me
Most of Apples Market doesn't even know the Mac is switching to Intel processors, or if they do know, think that's is something like Miele saying their going to be using a different grade of Stainless steel in their product. i.e. no change to buying patterns here)
There are a small set of Existing users the Creative types, developers, and the part time IT guys in Design Offices who know it's going to happen are concerned about "interesting times" ahead, but for the most part think the move should be positive. ( so make sure legacy hardware is in good order, buy based on what is needed at the time, keep and eye on the options / the backup plan, i.e.. no change here)
Oh and the Fanboi's who are mostly teenagers using what ever mum or dad buys them or hands down, so no big change here.
I can't see how Apples sales are going to crumble. Sure there will be some movement. I don't think it will be as dramatic as say the Osbourn effect. I would expect it to be more tied to general trends. Which could be the answer to the question why now, and not 2 years ago.
I do agree that is time now for Apple to get machines in the right hands for the buying cycles of 2006 and 2007 in various markets. As a way of making sure they can clear inventory.
Have they said no open firmware, or that it just isn't the the dev box.
It would be like assuming that the xbox 360 uses Openfirmware because the dev box was a modified Apple dual processor G5.
Just like the with the M$'s xbox, Apple need developers up and running now, for customer day one sometime next year. They have any number of months to design and test hardware.
I would shocked if the shipping product wasn't a full custom. It's not like Apple has ever shied away from the engineering side of the design, even in the current line up there are any number of examples, the iMac, the mini, the powerMac.
There is even that classic story on Folklore.org of Steve not being happy with look of the traces to the memory of the orginal Mac. Apple is not a company to be happy with whats already happeing, after all if they were they would have just added an inch to the thickness of the powerbook slapped in a G5 and said "here you go"
I also don't think Intel would be that interested unless it was a chance to build the latest the greatest without the lagacy crap to hold it back. This really is a chance for them to showcase their Technology as well.
Everyone is talking Apple will die from this. No one is thinking beyond PC's (as in Personel Computers) to the whole realm of other computers in our lifes.
Wouldn't this move give Intels Embeded Customers another option for an OS if they need one, sure Apple are saying it will only run on Apple Hardware but since when have Apple been disinterested in making Applicances. People already were talking about the miniMac as embeded machine. Now Apple and Intel teaming up in that market could be very interesting.
It raises more questions than it answers. it surely is interesting times we live in.
So your suggesting if Apple waited a couple of years, brought out Bungi then co-launched the Pippin with an earlier first person shooter we would now be refering to...
It always struck me as odd to use normal A/c plant to cool computers. For the simple reason air can not carry much heat indeed it's really poor at carrying heat. A/c works in offices and home because it can evapourate water off peoples skins then dump that water out of air at the unit, producing cool dry air to be recycled.
Server Rooms need to be cool and low mositure, computers don't sweat so the heat that can be transfer by cool dry air is pretty limited.
Water on the other hand can carry a lot of energy, and is pretty easy to move away from the heat source, from there any way you can use to get the heat out has a big advantage over pure air cooling. Given that in most of these cases your cleaning the air first. Even if you had water cooling as a primary and air as secondary it would have to offer great saving just in air cleaning costs.
As you said the best solution is then to use a heat pump to concentrate that energy even further to improve the ability to dump the heat to either atmosphere or better still into the every reliable Earth.
I was scanning down the list of posts waiting for someone else to notice the same thing as well.
Let face Apple have a device that they call a digital hub, It plays encoded digital audio, with an add-on it can record digital audio. It's a nice size reasonable battery life and it keeps your contacts, other info and some models keep can show photos.
What's it really missing to be the super device... you could add a camera but that effects size. To add a phone, well it already does the audio.
What it's really missing to be your personnel info hub is Communications... so let's give the iPod 2-5 years of foreseeable improvements, size stays the same the processor inside gets more powerful, battery life doubles, and low power WiFi or bluetooth chips hit the market full force.
Now you have a device that could VoIP in most urban areas with not much issue, team it with Airport and it will roam arround the house or office and connect to other devices you carry with you. you could carry a real camera but it would still talk to the hub. a small group of add ons. Team it with a cell or sat phone that is just a phone plus a wifi bridge.
Ok so it's not one hacked together "super device", but you have a group of devices that each do one job really well, but talk to each other and you just take what function you need.
Why a Mac Mini? Surely a 20"LCD G5 iMac and the UPS would be a better combo. after the iMac is self contained, no power bricks, no seperate screen, with bluetooth no need for keyboard or mouse cables. It's only 2inch thin anyway so it will pack with keyboard and other junk into a case about 4inch thick.
Let's face it the iMac G5 makes a better lugable than a big mother "laptop" at the best of times. All it really needs is to an option replace the internal power supply with a battery and you have a damn fine portable.
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To use a bad anology.
Apple and MicroSoft might be both playing "Football" but one uses and round ball and the other enlogated one.
Just because they are completing for the same spectators doesn't make it the same game.
I'm sorry Australia and New Zealand have been quarantined to avoid any further music being released by Russel Crowe.
Hello fellow south paw,
I think you've hit the nail on the head about Apple reasoning with Mighty Mouse. It's mentioned 2-3 times over the pages for the mouse that it's hand neutral. Also Apple don't call it left or right click, it's always Primary and secondary. It would seem to be one of those Apple quirks, that add up to "it just works".
What I find funny is you rarely see a mouse on the other side of the keyboard, it's easy to change. I know i keep mine on the right, but then again i find mousing is easy, and that frees up my left hand for the more complex task of of 3-4 key combos, common in CAD and graphics.
No lawsuit coming....
All those talks of late to media companies where just tracking down the rights to "mighty mouse", and had nothing to do with the fabled iVideo Store.
I'm trying to find the link. I'm remember the last one a couple of months ago being the based on research by university I suffered at. http://www.sustainability.uts.edu.au/research/npr/ eematerials.html
The major difference from what I remember was there system used a flexible polymer tube, that has the same total internal reflection effect as fibre optics, yet is easier to handle and much cheaper.
Why ask them to imagine the paper....
Why not play Paper Wiki....
Each person is given a piece of paper and ask to write a question or statement at the top. Any thing they like, but suggest a recipe that they like or the paper plane.
When passes to left. The next person responds to the question but can only write on every 4th line.
pass again but the next person every other line.
pass again but from now people can add comments where they like.
All the while make it fun and chat about open source but in the more abstract ideas, like sharing a passion, a hobby. Ways of interacting. Keep it positive, and talk about the oppertunities the approach gives.
Unless everyone is a techincal person talking about virus and spam, and weakness is going to bore them.
Now just before the paper get back to the orginal author, collect them all , tease them with some of the good information
"who would have thought you could use a Carrot that way"
and ask how much they are willing to pay for the answer.
Hopefully they should Laugh or at least react.
"or we could open source the answer. you get it for free.
The condition is the answer has to stay open to anyone who's interested."
Yes you can.
Results do vary based on artistic skill.
Matt
Working with CAD on both Windows and Mac, one hand mouse point click and the like.
One hand calling tools via various key commands.
I think Windows Should change the position of the control key to match Mac's Command Key.
after a day of 2,3 & 4 key combos you really notice how much nicer the command key is in that position.
I'm not sure how this simple thing counts as Zealotry, but if it does I'm guilty.
Long live the Command Key, bringer of pain free days.
You can't doodle rude pictures of your lecturer or class mates with a keyboard can you. That's reason enough for me.
It exists.... Just not in mass production.
What if that website was one of the major banks in Australia?
The Online banch of the bank I have my custom with is already telling users to dump IE and use something else.
Including handy links to download pretty much any other browser in nice easy to understand pages based on the system the person is using.
I wonder if they are planning to lock out IE altogether in the future?
A monorail and a guitar playing robot just like the one discribed.
At least that robot could play the full range.
but still wasn't as impressive as the idea sounded, after all the guitar was so lost inside the machine as to be hard to what it was.
Along the same lines I was thinking Medical Uses.
Etch prescriptions or treatment information on to the nail.
Finger scan at Chemist to get the prescription filled and any repeats.
If your in a accident the paramedics and ER could have a detailed record of anything that may effect their treatment options.
Sure you don't have enough space for an xray of a broken limb but more than enough for highly useful information.
So the nail grows out but drugs also clear our systems over time, so the position of the information on the nail will also tell them how long since the treatment was taken.
Also Less privacy concern as information is not stored on some random database, but in proximity to the person.
Not true some of us mac users are Homosexual Architects. or homosexual grahpic designer, web designers oh wait i know a few straight Mac users but their pretty metrosexual. I know a few homosexual Linux Zealots. The only Windows zealots in know are Lesbians.
I'm not sure Apple M.O. has changed at all.
I think you'll find that Apple was never a hardware company, nor are they now a software company. After all the original Apple was a computer designed by the Woz to run an implementation of BASIC that he'd written on paper, based on a processor he'd read the spec for. The same concept of an appliance can be seen in the iPod, the Newton, all the Iconic Mac's.
It's a chicken and Egg situation if you want to see it in pure terms of Hardware/software.
Intel is a hardware company they fab their own product
Microsoft and Adobe are Software companies the code there own product.
Apple makes the full widget, a complete product.
Yes it is made of parts, much like GM or BMW build cars from parts, They design an experience, a tool if you will then write software and build hardware to make that happen.
What sets Apple apart is they make the full package.
If Apple stop making the experience and just become another parts maker. Someone else will fill that gap in the market, maybe B&O or Bose.
Hey it really surprises me more companies aren't doing it already, or are they (M$ and xBox)? After all the parts market is crowded. Applicance market is ripe, and with Linux and other Open source most of the part are there for the choosing.
Except Longhorn is a Software Operating System.
Mac is a phyical computing applicance.
Its not fair to expect a parts manufacuter to be able to keep up with full widget makers, in any industry.
Well it would seem both Steve are doing the same thing. i.e.. working for token salary doing things they take joy from, while treating education as an opportunity not a requirement. If that i key to being worth only half a billion, then sign me up. It's sounds like the key to a pretty happy life regardless of the cash, to me
One small problem....
Most of Apples Market doesn't even know the Mac is switching to Intel processors, or if they do know, think that's is something like Miele saying their going to be using a different grade of Stainless steel in their product. i.e. no change to buying patterns here)
There are a small set of Existing users the Creative types, developers, and the part time IT guys in Design Offices who know it's going to happen are concerned about "interesting times" ahead, but for the most part think the move should be positive. ( so make sure legacy hardware is in good order, buy based on what is needed at the time, keep and eye on the options / the backup plan, i.e.. no change here)
Oh and the Fanboi's who are mostly teenagers using what ever mum or dad buys them or hands down, so no big change here.
I can't see how Apples sales are going to crumble.
Sure there will be some movement. I don't think it will be as dramatic as say the Osbourn effect. I would expect it to be more tied to general trends. Which could be the answer to the question why now, and not 2 years ago.
I do agree that is time now for Apple to get machines in the right hands for the buying cycles of 2006 and 2007 in various markets. As a way of making sure they can clear inventory.
Have they said no open firmware, or that it just isn't the the dev box.
It would be like assuming that the xbox 360 uses Openfirmware because the dev box was a modified Apple dual processor G5.
Just like the with the M$'s xbox, Apple need developers up and running now, for customer day one sometime next year. They have any number of months to design and test hardware.
I would shocked if the shipping product wasn't a full custom. It's not like Apple has ever shied away from the engineering side of the design, even in the current line up there are any number of examples, the iMac, the mini, the powerMac.
There is even that classic story on Folklore.org of Steve not being happy with look of the traces to the memory of the orginal Mac. Apple is not a company to be happy with whats already happeing, after all if they were they would have just added an inch to the thickness of the powerbook slapped in a G5 and said "here you go"
I also don't think Intel would be that interested unless it was a chance to build the latest the greatest without the lagacy crap to hold it back. This really is a chance for them to showcase their Technology as well.
Everyone is talking Apple will die from this.
No one is thinking beyond PC's (as in Personel Computers) to the whole realm of other computers in our lifes.
Wouldn't this move give Intels Embeded Customers another option for an OS if they need one, sure Apple are saying it will only run on Apple Hardware but since when have Apple been disinterested in making Applicances. People already were talking about the miniMac as embeded machine. Now Apple and Intel teaming up in that market could be very interesting.
It raises more questions than it answers.
it surely is interesting times we live in.
It shouldn't in much the same way that...
Tech paid for by Australian tax payers shouldn't be free to Australian Corps
or
Tech paid for by US tax payer shouldn't be free to US Corps.
Raises the question how much tech is paid for by donation and gov. funding(i.e. the public) is tied up in private hands?
So your suggesting if Apple waited a couple of years, brought out Bungi then co-launched the Pippin with an earlier first person shooter we would now be refering to...
The Marathon effect.
It always struck me as odd to use normal A/c plant to cool computers. For the simple reason air can not carry much heat indeed it's really poor at carrying heat. A/c works in offices and home because it can evapourate water off peoples skins then dump that water out of air at the unit, producing cool dry air to be recycled.
Server Rooms need to be cool and low mositure, computers don't sweat so the heat that can be transfer by cool dry air is pretty limited.
Water on the other hand can carry a lot of energy, and is pretty easy to move away from the heat source, from there any way you can use to get the heat out has a big advantage over pure air cooling. Given that in most of these cases your cleaning the air first. Even if you had water cooling as a primary and air as secondary it would have to offer great saving just in air cleaning costs.
As you said the best solution is then to use a heat pump to concentrate that energy even further to improve the ability to dump the heat to either atmosphere or better still into the every reliable Earth.
I was scanning down the list of posts waiting for someone else to notice the same thing as well.
Let face Apple have a device that they call a digital hub, It plays encoded digital audio, with an add-on it can record digital audio. It's a nice size reasonable battery life and it keeps your contacts, other info and some models keep can show photos.
What's it really missing to be the super device...
you could add a camera but that effects size.
To add a phone, well it already does the audio.
What it's really missing to be your personnel info hub is Communications...
so let's give the iPod 2-5 years of foreseeable improvements, size stays the same the processor inside gets more powerful, battery life doubles, and low power WiFi or bluetooth chips hit the market full force.
Now you have a device that could VoIP in most urban areas with not much issue, team it with Airport and it will roam arround the house or office and connect to other devices you carry with you.
you could carry a real camera but it would still talk to the hub.
a small group of add ons. Team it with a cell or sat phone that is just a phone plus a wifi bridge.
Ok so it's not one hacked together "super device", but you have a group of devices that each do one job really well, but talk to each other and you just take what function you need.
Why a Mac Mini?
Surely a 20"LCD G5 iMac and the UPS would be a better combo.
after the iMac is self contained, no power bricks, no seperate screen, with bluetooth no need for keyboard or mouse cables. It's only 2inch thin anyway so it will pack with keyboard and other junk into a case about 4inch thick.
Let's face it the iMac G5 makes a better lugable than a big mother "laptop" at the best of times. All it really needs is to an option replace the internal power supply with a battery and you have a damn fine portable.