You're right that corrupting data would be much more damaging than just DDoSing a website or spamming. However, I don't think it will lead the public to a greater understanding of security. More likely, it would lead to press sensationalism, with MS convincing people that this is why they "need" Palladium/.NET/DRM, and the Homeland Security guys saying that they "need" tougher "anti-terror" laws. There will be no mention in the press about how all of it could be prevented if only MS had done the job right the first time around.
What a wonderful world we live in, eh?
On a different note, you should be damn glad that the virus wasn't signed "Osama bin Laden". The first joker that does that is going to send us down the road to government control of the internet "for national security reasons".
Does anyone else picture Gates having a vault like Scrooge McDuck's from 'Duck tales', where he can swim in a pile of money while counting his money and being showered in money? He could have the EU judges come by his 'pool' and give them a net saying, "Just take all you need, fellas". I almost wish he'd do it just for the sake of showing off:-)
Well, there is the page on How to enlist in the U.S. Navy at e2. There seems to be a whole process, not just signing a paper(though there's that, too). I'm sure if you google the various service's webpages, you'll find some info, although they're probobly more oriendted towards advertising than actually informing you what they make you do.
Nay, the First Ones are alive still - they journeyed to the Uncharted Lands, to return once again when the land is in peril once again from the Shadow Realm...
Well, I for one would love to see Ballmer or Gates on the bridge of the USS Windows(spinning helplessly in space due to a BSOD) clench his fist and scream: "TUUUUUUUUUUUX!!"
I've read Zubrin's other book, I think it was called 'The road to Mars'.
While his ideas about how such a mission could be accomplished are interesting, I was a bit disturbed by his motivation for the Mars missions - he thinks of the earth(and the U.S. in particular) as having become too government-controlled, and wants to set up a colony on Mars just to get away from it. In fact, he specifically says in the book that the Mars colony will eventually rebel and set itself up as a independent nation. Zubrin reminds me of Sam Houston, or that guy who wanted to make California his own country. His political motivation isn't nessecerily bad on its own, but it does cast doubt on some of his arguments - I suspected through the entire book that he was oversimplifing the problems to push his agenda, and his economic arguments in particular seemed suspect.
Not nessesarily. Assembly plants and factories don't need much energy compared to smelting/ore refining operations, and I don't think on-site generation is practical for those purposes. I know the big aluminum plants in Oregon are fed off of the grid because they were shut down during the energy crisis in Cali. a while back. All the spare energy from hydro power on the Columbia river was diverted south. Backups were not there because there were no economical way to supply the power needed.
Keep in mind that the U.S. probobly has cheaper energy rates for industrial uses than most third world countries because of our existing infastructure and generating plants. Even if you could build a power plant next to the steel mill, will that be cheaper than getting power off the grid in the U.S.?
Obviously, if the websites in question were raising funds for terrorist groups, it would be illegal whether or not they were non-profit or if he was a student.
However, I don't believe there are restrictions against student visa holders working for a non-profit, so long as they are volunteers, not paid employees. People I know have volunteered for a church play, joined a Linux user's group, and done community service while on student visas, all of which are legal as far as I understand.
Lying on an immigration form is, of course, illegal - as a matter of fact, that's one of the few things they can revoke naturalized citizenship for.
Yeah, I'm at the flight control center right now...
Say, can anyone here help us configure networking and re-modulate the antenna on one of these lander thingies? It's a very technical, intricate process that requires a lot of planning, so of course we here at NASA decided to Ask Slashdot instead of reading some boring manual. Thx d00d5!
Sincerely,
Bob Lazar Sewage Treatment Engineer NASA Flight Operations Center
Also, the Rolling Stones Four Flicks DVD is good, though it doesn't have as many songs as one would expect from 4 DVDs(There are repeats on the discs, from different performances).
I don't know if the original poster was serious, but yes, there is merit to arming the passengers with hand-to-hand weapons. If there are 50 terrorists in a 400-passenger flight, the passengers will fight back. If there are 50 terrorists in a 100-passenger flight, the passengers will fight back. There is simply no alternative to fighting now that we know what terrorists will do.
You say that "There's no point in defending this "arm the passengers" theory, it will never happen as it's both ludicrous and risky". Well, the worst that could happen from fighting back is that you end up like the people on United flight 93 - crashing the plane, killing everyone onboard. The worst that could happen from *not* fighting back, tooth and nail, is that you end up like those in the other three 9/11 flights - crashing the plane into targets, killing everyone onboard *and* lots of people on the ground.
The fact is, we can expect that terrorists will be in the minority(probobly by a large margin) of any flight they try to hijack, and that we shoulkd do whatever we can to help the passengers fight back.
Actulally, there was a short story by Harlan Ellison called 'laugh track', I think, in his book 'Angry Candy'. It was about a man whose aunt was recorded for a laugh track, and is now obsessed with freeing her voice from the TV studios... wierd stuff, I definitely recommend Ellison's work:P
Is there a fighting game where you play a pro wrestler, and instead of letting the player do everything they can to win, the game forces them to play according to a script which they must follow, or they will be fired? Hell, I bet you could make a decent rythym game based on that...
We've gotta ban that stuff, all the kids are gonna start using it, and then we'll never get them to stop. It's addictive... I've had like 5 doses today...
Wow, me too! But I think I've found a safe way of ingesting it - I mix it with hops and yeast, allow it to ferment in a large vat, and drink the resulting liquid! You can hardly even tell it's mostly dihydrogen monoxide! We must amend the constitution to ban straight dihydrogen monoxide, and allow only these 'brewed' concotions!
Okay, I haven't seen the series you refer to, but...
What's wrong with a suspension bridge over Gibralter? Those things can be several hundred feet above the sea, and San Fransisco and other locales don't seem to have a problem letting ships through...
The Bearing Straight linked by a bridge seems a less likely option, if only because of the terrible climate and sea conditions there. However, I can definitely see the benefits it would bring. I assume that it would not primarily be a passenger service, but a cargo service that could link the manufacturing centers of China and SE Asia with U.S. consumers. Also U.S. farm output with the masses of Asia, Europe, and even Africa without going through ports and slow ships. Remember that ships are limited to ~30 mph, and take a while to be loaded/unloaded - a train from Beijing to Spokane could definitely beat that. A Bering Strait bridge would be a boon to cross-Pacific trade - I suspect the only people that would be against it are environmentalists and longshoremen.
Well, that's a bit farfetched, but you bring up a valid point. Economists have this thing called the "McDonalds Theory" on war, which basically says that countires which have McDonalds franchises are unlikely to go to war with one another, because having a McDonalds signifies a degree of free trade and openness to the west. I'm sure one or two wars/minor conflicts have been fought between such countries, though...
It would be interesting to see what would happen to all the Chinese branches of U.S. corporations if war with China came. Most likely, the Chinese authorities would force them to be independent of the parent corp, and become Chinese-owned.
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You're right that corrupting data would be much more damaging than just DDoSing a website or spamming. However, I don't think it will lead the public to a greater understanding of security. More likely, it would lead to press sensationalism, with MS convincing people that this is why they "need" Palladium/.NET/DRM, and the Homeland Security guys saying that they "need" tougher "anti-terror" laws. There will be no mention in the press about how all of it could be prevented if only MS had done the job right the first time around.
What a wonderful world we live in, eh?
On a different note, you should be damn glad that the virus wasn't signed "Osama bin Laden". The first joker that does that is going to send us down the road to government control of the internet "for national security reasons".
Does anyone else picture Gates having a vault like Scrooge McDuck's from 'Duck tales', where he can swim in a pile of money while counting his money and being showered in money? He could have the EU judges come by his 'pool' and give them a net saying, "Just take all you need, fellas". I almost wish he'd do it just for the sake of showing off :-)
I assume english is all right, then? What other languages are common there?
btw, there are a lot of documentation online, I will post links to Arabic ones if I find them.
Well, there is the page on How to enlist in the U.S. Navy at e2. There seems to be a whole process, not just signing a paper(though there's that, too). I'm sure if you google the various service's webpages, you'll find some info, although they're probobly more oriendted towards advertising than actually informing you what they make you do.
Nay, the First Ones are alive still - they journeyed to the Uncharted Lands, to return once again when the land is in peril once again from the Shadow Realm...
Well, I for one would love to see Ballmer or Gates on the bridge of the USS Windows(spinning helplessly in space due to a BSOD) clench his fist and scream: "TUUUUUUUUUUUX!!"
I've read Zubrin's other book, I think it was called 'The road to Mars'.
While his ideas about how such a mission could be accomplished are interesting, I was a bit disturbed by his motivation for the Mars missions - he thinks of the earth(and the U.S. in particular) as having become too government-controlled, and wants to set up a colony on Mars just to get away from it. In fact, he specifically says in the book that the Mars colony will eventually rebel and set itself up as a independent nation. Zubrin reminds me of Sam Houston, or that guy who wanted to make California his own country. His political motivation isn't nessecerily bad on its own, but it does cast doubt on some of his arguments - I suspected through the entire book that he was oversimplifing the problems to push his agenda, and his economic arguments in particular seemed suspect.
Would it actually work, though? Can you set 127.0.0.1 as a host in the DNS, and do windows machines recognize it as localhost?
;)
It would be really funny if they did that, though
Well shit, I'm Japanese, and I'm reading Slashdot... scratch one off your list!
:D
I'd say more, but I'm late for school
Did anyone else notice that it was the size of the guy's middle finger?
:D
Imagine flipping off people with your linux box!!
"Suck Slackware, bitch!!"
Yeah, I was kinda hoping to see Jar Jar in place of Gollum too.
Oh god, bad mental image... "Meeesa wants da pwecioussss... It callsss to ussss..."
And in Japanese, "Muda" means "wasted effort", or "pointless". Truely an unfortunate name for an interesting project.
;-)
It could be worse... I bet in Klingon, it means "Eno sucks"
Not nessesarily. Assembly plants and factories don't need much energy compared to smelting/ore refining operations, and I don't think on-site generation is practical for those purposes. I know the big aluminum plants in Oregon are fed off of the grid because they were shut down during the energy crisis in Cali. a while back. All the spare energy from hydro power on the Columbia river was diverted south. Backups were not there because there were no economical way to supply the power needed. Keep in mind that the U.S. probobly has cheaper energy rates for industrial uses than most third world countries because of our existing infastructure and generating plants. Even if you could build a power plant next to the steel mill, will that be cheaper than getting power off the grid in the U.S.?
Wait... I have a lower Slashdot number than the guy who put 2 rovers on Mars?
;-)
WAHOOOOOOO!!
Oh, and thanks for advancing mankind's knowledge of the universe
Obviously, if the websites in question were raising funds for terrorist groups, it would be illegal whether or not they were non-profit or if he was a student.
However, I don't believe there are restrictions against student visa holders working for a non-profit, so long as they are volunteers, not paid employees. People I know have volunteered for a church play, joined a Linux user's group, and done community service while on student visas, all of which are legal as far as I understand.
Lying on an immigration form is, of course, illegal - as a matter of fact, that's one of the few things they can revoke naturalized citizenship for.
Yeah, I'm at the flight control center right now...
Say, can anyone here help us configure networking and re-modulate the antenna on one of these lander thingies? It's a very technical, intricate process that requires a lot of planning, so of course we here at NASA decided to Ask Slashdot instead of reading some boring manual. Thx d00d5!
Sincerely,
Bob Lazar
Sewage Treatment Engineer
NASA Flight Operations Center
It's a bit too late now, but oh well....
I would suggest NIN: And all that could have been concert video, as NIN rocks and they use some interesting visuals.
Also, the Rolling Stones Four Flicks DVD is good, though it doesn't have as many songs as one would expect from 4 DVDs(There are repeats on the discs, from different performances).
I'd happily abandon my dignity for ten bucks.
So you're a Slashdot Subscriber, huh?
I don't know if the original poster was serious, but yes, there is merit to arming the passengers with hand-to-hand weapons. If there are 50 terrorists in a 400-passenger flight, the passengers will fight back. If there are 50 terrorists in a 100-passenger flight, the passengers will fight back. There is simply no alternative to fighting now that we know what terrorists will do.
You say that "There's no point in defending this "arm the passengers" theory, it will never happen as it's both ludicrous and risky". Well, the worst that could happen from fighting back is that you end up like the people on United flight 93 - crashing the plane, killing everyone onboard. The worst that could happen from *not* fighting back, tooth and nail, is that you end up like those in the other three 9/11 flights - crashing the plane into targets, killing everyone onboard *and* lots of people on the ground.
The fact is, we can expect that terrorists will be in the minority(probobly by a large margin) of any flight they try to hijack, and that we shoulkd do whatever we can to help the passengers fight back.
Actulally, there was a short story by Harlan Ellison called 'laugh track', I think, in his book 'Angry Candy'. It was about a man whose aunt was recorded for a laugh track, and is now obsessed with freeing her voice from the TV studios... wierd stuff, I definitely recommend Ellison's work :P
My favorite is this one, personally. "Good lord, what did they *do* to him in prison?!" - one of the funniest cartoons ever : )
Is there a fighting game where you play a pro wrestler, and instead of letting the player do everything they can to win, the game forces them to play according to a script which they must follow, or they will be fired? Hell, I bet you could make a decent rythym game based on that...
We've gotta ban that stuff, all the kids are gonna start using it, and then we'll never get them to stop. It's addictive... I've had like 5 doses today...
Wow, me too! But I think I've found a safe way of ingesting it - I mix it with hops and yeast, allow it to ferment in a large vat, and drink the resulting liquid! You can hardly even tell it's mostly dihydrogen monoxide! We must amend the constitution to ban straight dihydrogen monoxide, and allow only these 'brewed' concotions!
Okay, I haven't seen the series you refer to, but...
What's wrong with a suspension bridge over Gibralter? Those things can be several hundred feet above the sea, and San Fransisco and other locales don't seem to have a problem letting ships through...
The Bearing Straight linked by a bridge seems a less likely option, if only because of the terrible climate and sea conditions there. However, I can definitely see the benefits it would bring. I assume that it would not primarily be a passenger service, but a cargo service that could link the manufacturing centers of China and SE Asia with U.S. consumers. Also U.S. farm output with the masses of Asia, Europe, and even Africa without going through ports and slow ships. Remember that ships are limited to ~30 mph, and take a while to be loaded/unloaded - a train from Beijing to Spokane could definitely beat that. A Bering Strait bridge would be a boon to cross-Pacific trade - I suspect the only people that would be against it are environmentalists and longshoremen.
Well, that's a bit farfetched, but you bring up a valid point. Economists have this thing called the "McDonalds Theory" on war, which basically says that countires which have McDonalds franchises are unlikely to go to war with one another, because having a McDonalds signifies a degree of free trade and openness to the west. I'm sure one or two wars/minor conflicts have been fought between such countries, though...
It would be interesting to see what would happen to all the Chinese branches of U.S. corporations if war with China came. Most likely, the Chinese authorities would force them to be independent of the parent corp, and become Chinese-owned.