Instead of coming forward after having made this bug aware and seen no activity in months, obviously making sure the first time to point out possible solutions to the case to make repairs quick and easy, I would have posted it in the underground and let the rest of the script kiddies do their job...this would have been done under a new assumed log on name and done from within a internet cafe where I had never been before...also make sure that cafe has no internal cameras, and pay for the service in cash.
Unfortunately we live in the day and age of people are just stupid, and think they have a right to be stupid, and will bring you to court to be able to stay stupid....just my way of thinking.
I hate to tell you, but it's real, and very very real. Unfortunately, not quite as the movie depicts it, but I could see how when NASA plans to crash their satellite into the moon to see "what happens"...it may be a catalyst that could effectively break off part of the moon and then being that its orbiting the earth, that part could come crashing down on earth, as well now that the moon is not a full moon, the effects on the earths climate and atmosphere could change for the worst.
Slashdot covered the story of NASA crashing their junk on the moon, supposedly to see what the impact would cause in terms of crater size...but I say, any time mankind has the idea to blow stuff up, nothing good comes of it....especially the item in question is responsible for our atmosphere, and our tides and currents in the sea, giving life (to sum up) to the whole planet.
Call e crazy, but I do not see us out of the woods yet.....
ps- Also, can anyone tell me why the international council has not stepped up and asked the Amercians (NASA) why they think they have the right to crash things into the moon...it isn't just theirs to do as they wish with!
>Seriously, how much heat is that thing going to put out Enough to burn a hole in the ozone layer....or melt the arctic polar cap. Seriously though, if we could also develop something to harness the neat this thing will give off, it would be a double whammy!
Do not confuse the gas prices being the way they are because of what have done compared to what the gas prices are because of what the economy is and what the gas companies think we can afford. A study has been done by the likes more intelligent then me, that have calculated the holding tanks capacity for storing the fuel the saudis have, and how much is actually coming out of there....
If we were all to just stop gasing for a week, and I mean all of north america, their biggest client....they would such an overstock that they...the scientist, using today's business models, and current situational response by a business that would face the same type of problem, and they say that the companies would have no choice but to slash the gas prices in half. If we held on for one more week again, they would go bankrupt....I wish I had their links to put up, but I have seen this on more then one sight, I will try to find it and link it.
The gas companies are the worst oversellers...controlling the medias to make you think we are running out of oil, pushing gas prices even further up....we have no oil shortage trust me...for one thing they have even figured out how to turn plastics into reusable oil, this I can't wait to see go public ( Here )!
We have the newly found oil flats in the arctic, we have tons of oil in canada which is a little more expensive to get then regular oil, (oil sands) but in the end, if we need to its there.
I have to applaud your comparison to the car or even the airline sector. If any of those sectors had the same failure rate as the software sector, we would be walking with about 50% less population and an accepted death rate much higher then we do now.
People allow this crap to happen, and still line the pockets of the M$ corporate types. The day we all say no to gas price hikes by banding together and stop buying gas for a full week, like the email sells you to do....then we will see gas prices drop like a hot potato. Same as with the software sector. I tend to find the hardware sector a little better, in that if something is faulty they replace it with a good one, so they tend to get a bigger nicer review from me.
In the end, if we simply say no to endless patches and just say we wont use anything until its been fixed, watch how quick the fixing happens.
Legally they have done nothing wrong, and are not breaking the law, so when the goons came in and took down the posters, it was merely a show of force, and nothing that could not have been prevented....however...being sly enough, I would have thought a better rebuttal, would have been to plaster all the walls with the same poster, requiring a full day for the "goons" to take down, as well use the really hard glue to keep in place...or even fibreglass casings, with padlocks. In the end...if they want to keep that poster up, they can...if they are willing to go the extra mile.
To prove the point, I would...but that is just me!
The military does not want to keep their costs down, in fact they want to keep increasing so each year they maintain a level of budget to the last, sickening really....but everyone does it in politics and in government.
They did not mention any of the products that we know has way too much caffeine in it, Pepsi and Coke, would they not be subject to this law as well, or are they greasing the pockets of those pushing the enforcement of such laws?
I have to agree here, my experience, is it takes M$ to actually walk in and start checking (which they can) on the software installed on the PCs, and then if your company is found guilty, they have to pay major fines. It happened once in my past, and I was not there the day they walked in, but heard about it afterwards, when they told me, why did they not hear about the pirated softwares they had, I showed them numerous emails pertaining to the fact that it was not legal to run with softwares as such, and these emails were left unanswered.
They will keep doing this until they get caught, and end up on a grey list by MS$ which by then they usually need a scapegoat, so yes, start looking before they look for that scapegoat(YOU!)
Slashdotters unite, we could all pool 1 dollar each into a bank account under a name which will never be used except if we all signed off on it, and create an account to then associate with this new found 2 million dollars, to which then all of/. could view at their leisure, without buying anything and keeping the money frozen to always have free access.
It would be pretty cool, although I doubt after the first 100k it would still be there... i think someone would find a way to steal the money.
I just can't fathom yet another vulnerability, much less one they have no plans to fix, which you apparently don't even need adobe flash installed on your pc to get infected. Seriously come on...this is really crappy news.
Adobe is going to become the Skynet we all fear in the future, watch and see....:P
The way i have been successful (somewhat) at getting my family to understand simple principles of habits on a pc, is to compare it to a car.
You never would get into a car without a license, someone could stop you and this woudl get you a ticket, dont go without AV software, cause you ll get stopped by your ISP if ever you get a malware and spam too much. Also when you get into a car after driving lessons, you understand much more the techniques used in certain emergency cases...uphill parking you turn you wheels against the curb to give extra parking stability... same thing, when you are using your pc, and recognize telltale signs for infection, you know what to do in that situation...or what to look for...etc...
The analogies go on, I have yet to compile a list, but found it the closest quick IMPORTANT attention getter way to drive the point across. My granddad now uses AV app with his pc, and hasnt had a single problem especially not that it blocks everything and lets him know, and he actually takes the time to go read up on the pop up messages sent by the AV software.
Maybe the version of firefox he downloaded to do the testing with, was probably a fake to begin with (maybe he was part of a man in the middle attack by M$ who wanted to prove that FF was worst, and fed him an owned version of FF) That would be too obvious, since being a security analyst, he would know to check all checksums of every app, right?
>more than 264,000 IP addresses were found reporting to sinkholes under FireEye's control It's not enough, those 264k IP adresses, should be sent out to a sort of ISP provider sanctuary where they need to contact the people who have the infected pcs, and tell them to clean their machines, just leaving the machines with a ongoing malware pinging back home, might still be able to get owned.
They need to take down those infected that they know is infected, and force those users to update or get fixed. They are a threat to the internet, and need to be delt with...maybe cutting them off the internet for awhile would make them call in their ISP and then they could be warned they had been owned, and need to clean their pcs. Any further attempts on their machines parts to contact that same "hole" would force them again to be locked out...until such time they fixed their machines, no?
>The $9 million loss occurred within a span of less than 12 hours; 130 different ATMs in 49 cities were hit within one 30-minute period This is where being a programmer, it makes sense that it is physically impossible to have that many cards to 1 account used in that many cities, so after the first 4 or 5 like this, you would think you stop the transactions from going on, unless the crime was committed on a realtime schedule where everybody was synched to do the withdrawals all at the exact time (almost to the second) If this was the case then cuddos to the criminals for now giving the idea to the banks to put all transactions in a queue.
Then again this is the police nabbing the crooks, the banks didnt bother spending their own money to catch the bad guys, lets use tax payer money for our shortfalls. I guess you could say this was a nicely planned crime, but how did they get caught?
Not to call you on your bluff, but would you happen to have facts to these stories, as to which medication and which trial your grandfather was in, I could use it for MY grandfather, and would love to hear where this trail took place, I might book him a ticket right now
What you are asking is too broad a question, you could involve business/time/budget management , you could also involve networking security, and advanced bandwidth analysis. The problem is you have too many jobs rolled into 1!
A budget plan, is essential, as is the reason why you need to do the things you do, like replace hardware such would be the analysis part, each document leads to another, each position, would extend their document to the next one, such as your budget would have to encompass the replacement of the hardware....
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Instead of coming forward after having made this bug aware and seen no activity in months, obviously making sure the first time to point out possible solutions to the case to make repairs quick and easy, I would have posted it in the underground and let the rest of the script kiddies do their job...this would have been done under a new assumed log on name and done from within a internet cafe where I had never been before...also make sure that cafe has no internal cameras, and pay for the service in cash.
Unfortunately we live in the day and age of people are just stupid, and think they have a right to be stupid, and will bring you to court to be able to stay stupid....just my way of thinking.
I hate to tell you, but it's real, and very very real. Unfortunately, not quite as the movie depicts it, but I could see how when NASA plans to crash their satellite into the moon to see "what happens"...it may be a catalyst that could effectively break off part of the moon
and then being that its orbiting the earth, that part could come crashing down on earth, as well now that the moon is not a full moon, the effects on the earths climate and atmosphere could change for the worst.
Slashdot covered the story of NASA crashing their junk on the moon, supposedly to see what the impact would cause in terms of crater size...but I say, any time mankind has the idea to blow stuff up, nothing good comes of it....especially the item in question is responsible for our atmosphere, and our tides and currents in the sea, giving life (to sum up) to the whole planet.
Call e crazy, but I do not see us out of the woods yet.....
ps- Also, can anyone tell me why the international council has not stepped up and asked the Amercians (NASA) why they think they have the right to crash things into the moon...it isn't just theirs to do as they wish with!
>Seriously, how much heat is that thing going to put out
Enough to burn a hole in the ozone layer....or melt the arctic polar cap.
Seriously though, if we could also develop something to harness the neat this thing will give off, it would be a double whammy!
Do not confuse the gas prices being the way they are because of what have done compared to what the gas prices are because of what the economy is and what the gas companies think we can afford.
A study has been done by the likes more intelligent then me, that have calculated the holding tanks capacity for storing the fuel the saudis have, and how much is actually coming out of there....
If we were all to just stop gasing for a week, and I mean all of north america, their biggest client....they would such an overstock that they ...the scientist, using today's business models, and current situational response by a business that would face the same type of problem, and they say
that the companies would have no choice but to slash the gas prices in half. If we held on for one more week again, they would go bankrupt....I wish I had their links to put up, but I have seen this
on more then one sight, I will try to find it and link it.
The gas companies are the worst oversellers...controlling the medias to make you think we are running out of oil, pushing gas prices even further up....we have no oil shortage trust me...for one thing they have even figured out how to turn plastics into reusable oil, this I can't wait to see go public ( Here )!
We have the newly found oil flats in the arctic, we have tons of oil in canada which is a little more expensive to get then regular oil, (oil sands) but in the end, if we need to its there.
I have to applaud your comparison to the car or even the airline sector. If any of those sectors had the same failure rate as the software sector, we would be walking with about 50% less population and an accepted death rate much higher then we do now.
People allow this crap to happen, and still line the pockets of the M$ corporate types. The day we all say no to gas price hikes by banding together and stop buying gas for a full week, like the email sells you to do....then we will see gas prices drop like a hot potato. Same as with the software sector. I tend to find the hardware sector a little better, in that if something is faulty they replace it with a good one, so they tend to get a bigger nicer review from me.
In the end, if we simply say no to endless patches and just say we wont use anything until its been fixed, watch how quick the fixing happens.
Legally they have done nothing wrong, and are not breaking the law, so when the goons came in and took down the posters, it was merely a show of force, and nothing that could not have been prevented....however...being sly enough, I would have thought a better rebuttal, would have been to plaster all the walls with the same poster, requiring a full day for the "goons" to take down, as well use the really hard glue to keep in place...or even fibreglass casings, with padlocks. In the end...if they want to keep that poster up, they can ...if they are willing to go the extra mile.
To prove the point, I would...but that is just me!
The military does not want to keep their costs down, in fact they want to keep increasing so each year they maintain a level of budget to the last, sickening really....but everyone does it in politics and in government.
They did not mention any of the products that we know has way too much caffeine in it, Pepsi and Coke, would they not
be subject to this law as well, or are they greasing the pockets of those pushing the enforcement of such laws?
Can't wait till these are the same price as regular dvds,
but until then I am sure that 5$ per dvd, is not really what I plan to pay...!!!
I have to agree here, my experience, is it takes M$ to actually walk in and start checking (which they can) on the software installed on the PCs, and then if your company is found guilty, they have to pay major fines.
It happened once in my past, and I was not there the day they walked in, but heard about it afterwards, when they told me, why did they not hear about the pirated softwares they had, I showed them numerous emails pertaining to the fact that it was not legal to run with softwares as such, and these emails were left unanswered.
They will keep doing this until they get caught, and end up on a grey list by MS$ which by then they usually need a scapegoat, so yes, start looking before they look for that scapegoat(YOU!)
i have to agree with you on this, i think these types of stories should be allowed to vote on and never allow that person to post again
Slashdotters unite, we could all pool 1 dollar each into a bank account under a name which will never be used except if we all signed off on it, and create an account to then associate with this new found 2 million dollars, to which then all of /. could view at their leisure, without buying anything and keeping the money frozen to always have free access.
It would be pretty cool, although I doubt after the first 100k it would still be there... i think someone would find a way to steal the money.
Cil, adobe, cil adobe, C...I....L.... adobe.
I just can't fathom yet another vulnerability, much less one they have no plans to fix, which you apparently don't even need adobe flash installed on your pc to get infected. Seriously come on...this is really crappy news.
Adobe is going to become the Skynet we all fear in the future, watch and see.... :P
The way i have been successful (somewhat) at getting my family to understand simple principles of habits on a pc,
is to compare it to a car.
You never would get into a car without a license, someone could stop you and this woudl get you a ticket,
dont go without AV software, cause you ll get stopped by your ISP if ever you get a malware and spam too much.
Also when you get into a car after driving lessons, you understand much more the techniques used in certain
emergency cases...uphill parking you turn you wheels against the curb to give extra parking stability...
same thing, when you are using your pc, and recognize telltale signs for infection, you know what to do in that situation...or what to look for...etc...
The analogies go on, I have yet to compile a list, but found it the closest quick IMPORTANT attention getter way to drive the point across. My granddad now uses AV app with his pc, and hasnt had a single problem especially not that it blocks everything
and lets him know, and he actually takes the time to go read up on the pop up messages sent by the AV software.
You have way too much time to waste writing this poem,
and I have way too much time if I actually read it.
Awesome, now this means my xp version is even more insecure then I thought,
I am still waiting until they offer free patching for pirated copies.
Maybe the version of firefox he downloaded to do the testing with, was probably a fake to begin with (maybe he was
part of a man in the middle attack by M$ who wanted to prove that FF was worst, and fed him an owned version of FF)
That would be too obvious, since being a security analyst, he would know to check all checksums of every app, right?
>more than 264,000 IP addresses were found reporting to sinkholes under FireEye's control
It's not enough, those 264k IP adresses, should be sent out to a sort of ISP provider sanctuary where
they need to contact the people who have the infected pcs, and tell them to clean their machines, just
leaving the machines with a ongoing malware pinging back home, might still be able to get owned.
They need to take down those infected that they know is infected, and force those users to update or get fixed.
They are a threat to the internet, and need to be delt with...maybe cutting them off the internet for awhile would make them call in
their ISP and then they could be warned they had been owned, and need to clean their pcs.
Any further attempts on their machines parts to contact that same "hole" would force them again to be locked out...until such time
they fixed their machines, no?
>The $9 million loss occurred within a span of less than 12 hours; 130 different ATMs in 49 cities were hit within one 30-minute period
This is where being a programmer, it makes sense that it is physically impossible to have that many cards to 1 account used in that many cities, so after the first 4 or 5 like this, you would think you stop the transactions from going on, unless the crime was committed on a realtime schedule where everybody was synched to do the withdrawals all at the exact time (almost to the second)
If this was the case then cuddos to the criminals for now giving the idea to the banks to put all transactions in a queue.
Then again this is the police nabbing the crooks, the banks didnt bother spending their own money to catch the bad guys,
lets use tax payer money for our shortfalls. I guess you could say this was a nicely planned crime, but how did they get caught?
tyvm for your links, i would mod you, but you cant on your own conversations... : (
Still would be nice to have some links if you could...thanks in advance..
Really, you want that little bugger to still be around, I thought he died along time ago, when that show of his with heather locklear got cancelled.
Not to call you on your bluff, but would you happen to have facts to these stories, as to which medication and which trial your grandfather was in, I could use it for MY grandfather, and would love to hear where this trail took place, I might book him a ticket right now
I would love to see how this might be able to harness me some more gold while farming on WoW!
What you are asking is too broad a question, you could involve business/time/budget management ,
you could also involve networking security, and advanced bandwidth analysis.
The problem is you have too many jobs rolled into 1!
A budget plan, is essential, as is the reason why you need to do the things you do, like replace hardware
such would be the analysis part, each document leads to another, each position, would extend their document to the next one,
such as your budget would have to encompass the replacement of the hardware....
How much time do you have to do all of this?