Tell me, at what point does one send a big mesh to the processor when there is a GPU? What kind of real-time process are you running that requires so much computing power that you cannot parallelize the process? Video and Audio? No, they are highly parallelizable. AI and Physics? No, they are not computation intensive relative to multimedia. 3D graphics? Taken care of by the GPU.
Over the last years their entire raison d'etre seems to be to lock you into their products. Mainly by using their own crappy, non standard, proprietary formats . . . start writing XBox viruses ?
And Microsoft is better how? Microsoft is much worse on technological innovation than Sony. The difference is that Microsoft forces the market to use their crappy, non-standard, proprietary format by leveraging their monopoly. Sony does no harm by introducing something to the market as a choice from the competitors. You cannot do that with Microsoft.
Combining all the necessary computational power of current games, the percentage of processing time devoted to AI is completely insignificant to the computations required for multimedia. Games use very simple 'AI' (if you can even call it that in the field of AI), I doubt next-gen game is going to be shipped with the neural nets that you mentioned.
Back 10 years ago, you need to constantly upgrading your processor to keep up with the demands of game rquirements. Now, you will likely see that your old 2.4GHz works just fine on newly-released games. The reason is because the bulk of the computational power is serviced by the video card.
The PS3 is the same way. It is designed to take the load of computation-heavy processes such as multimedia and 3D applications. And guess what? That is what a console is.
You want evidence of how Microsoft stifles innovation? Look at IE compared to Firefox. Ever since Microsoft killed off Netscape, IE produced no innovation. It stayed the same way for years, and Microsoft didn't see the need to fix its numerous security issues. When you look at Firefox -- a free browser -- compared to IE that we pay for along with Windows, Firefox (created via much less capital) is years ahead of IE in terms of features.
Imagine if there was competition to keep Microsoft in check in the browser market: Homes and business would not have lost trillions on theft, lost data, time, and energy on the security exploits. Homes and businesses could have been more productive with improved features.
The same thinking can be extended to all monopolies. Because monopolies do not have competition, the monopoly can save money on research and development and pocket that money. This is why Microsoft is detrimental to innovation, and their entry into various markets is at the expense of consumers. The more money you give to Microsoft, the more money Microsoft has to screw you over.
Andy Serkis wore a body suit with positioning markers, and his body movements were tracked in real time by computers and cameras. Additional animation was required, but the movement of his "avatar" covered every joint and bone in his body in real time to an accuracy more than required for a computer to manipulate a sparring partner.
The technique you cited here is motion capture. However, there isn't any slow external device dependencies with recording coordinates from a few markers. It is also true that with current GPUs, mapping the coordinates onto a 3D model is not out of the question, but when they say "real-time", it doesn't necessarily mean "without delay" in the graphics world.
Motion determination and motor control is a completely different scenario altogether. If we assume that the motion capture cameras capture the location of the markers (ie. the motion capture markers does not have built-in wireless technology), then all the processor is doing is translating the marker coordinates to spine coordinates for the 3D model. Every coordinate only requires one frame.
To determine movement, on the other hand, requires many image frames, there is no way around it. It is the requirement of image frames that slows the process down, which is running much slower than a processor (we always assume that the processing power is negligible to external dependencies).
As for motors, I believe that this uses solinoids which do not need to ramp up
I haven't designed or manufactured motors, but I would think that the magnetic coil will still need to charge-up to a specific level to have enough EMF to drive the hydraulic system, so I believe that solenoids also require a ramp-up.
I have trained for 9 years in Wing Chun, and one of my training aids has been a wooden dummy
Sparring is more dynamic than wooden dummies. The wooden dummy does not provide the user with actual combat experience. The wooden dummy trains form, speed, and reaction. I'm sure your Sifu will agree with me. Regardless, the product is being advertised as an alternative to a sparring partner, which I disagree with.
I disagree. No matter how fast you may think your fists are, that microprocessor is considerably faster. Do you know how fast the scanning method scans for movement? Did you see how Gollum was created for LOTR? If the camera is running at a slow 60Hz, that is faster than the human eye, and you can certanly get faster response times.
I have not seen how Gollum was created. Note that mechanical movements involve a lot more than what you have in mind -- it is not just software nor is it motion capture. To determine movement, a processor requires image frames. If the algorithm requires 5 frames to determine movement with a camera running at 60FPS, that is already 1/12 of a second. Motors also need to ramp up. If image processing is used for "dodging", then their claim that the dummy can dodge punches is unlikely.
There is a few reasons why I doubt the usefulness of this robot.
1) To develop an "android" with "human-like" combative movements is unlikely at this point in time. The Actroid shown in the videos here is quite advanced in mimicing human motions, but the movements are very jerky and the motor control is very obvious.
2) The previous point leads to another problem. Training with a mechnical dummy is detrimental to gaining actual combat experience. The "android" will , no doubt, move in a series of jerky movements predefined by state machines. A human fighter flows from one move to another. The android can't help replicate real combat unless it has physics and advanced algorithms programmed into it. Also, the android shown in the picture seems to be stationary. Boxing and martial arts is very dynamic, so the android serves more like a game than a serious combat trainer.
3) The article claims that the android can dodge punches. I say that it can't. It takes a fist less than a quarter of a second to travel from the ready position to the opponent's face. The microprocessor needs to do image processing to realize that the fist is moving towards a specific area, which will require many image frames before it can actually determine the fist movements. And even if the microprocessor was able to act fast enough, I haven't seen any motors that can rotate fast enough.
4) Cost. A stepping side-kick has tremedous amount of force. If a kick can knock a human 10 feet back, I doubt that the android can sustain its working condition after numerous attacks. When it breaks down, how much would it cost to get it serviced?
The title of the paper is misleading, it stated that the "FTC staff conducted interviews with 98 individuals," which suggests that with the "enactment of CAN-SPAM, spam volume has begun to decline as
has consumer frustration". Of course, the paper is written in such a way that CAN-SPAM was responsible for the "technological and marketplace developments in email since the enactment of CAN-SPAM." In other words, this is nothing but a government agency trying to hide the uselessness of a law they passed by taking credit for the technological advancements that combat spam.
What you have said is completely untrue. The tactics and strategy in Dragon Quest is much, much deeper than that of the typical RPG. When you just choose to not see the intricate combat system and decided to brute force your way through the game through "mindless grinding", it doesn't mean that the game is simple at all.
Sure, you can play Dragon Quest VIII by simply choosing Attack with all your characters, "grind" hours to overpower the dungeon which you should have tackled 5 levels ago, but that is only one way of playing it.
There is a very deep combat system that requries you to constantly calculate maximum damage output while minimizing damage input. If you tackle dungeons at the designed level range, you absolutely need to think of strategy for every combination of monster group that you encounter.
Unlike other RPGs, you can't mindlessly use the Attack command and hope to win every battle unharmed and reach the boss with adequate HP and MP. Again, you have to think of the best way to maximize damage output and minimize damage input.
As a simple example, let say your Hero does 5 damage and Yangus does 10 damage. If there are two monsters with 7 HP each, you should not set your Hero and Yangus to attack the same enemy in Round 1. You should set the Hero to attack Monster A, while Yangus attacks Monster B. This way, after the first round, one of the monster would be at 2HP, while the other would be dead. If you had set them to attack the same monster, one of the monster will have full HP.
Of course, the system gets more complicated depending on Agility, monster attacks, and many other factors. But it is the combination of tactics and choices every round in every battle that enables you to get to the boss with enough HP and MP to defeat it.
Definitely, if you chose to brute force your way through the game, then all you will see is "mindless grinding", but you are completely missing the strategic aspect of the combat system.
More often than not, the proposed system will save more lives than it takes. There are far more speeding vehicles than ones encountering the situation that you described. Like you have said, what you described can be solved by allowing a short burst of acceleration.
I live in Canada, and I have read numerous stories about reckless drivers (mostly teens to young adults) trying to race during rush hour traffic. I am sure that if you had a child in the car with you and almost got hit by a speeding vehicle, you would have no disagreements with the proposed system.
I have learned that being an extrovert will land you the great opportunities. I realized that no matter how much you know or how good you are, if you can't express your skills during critical moments, you are going to lose a job to an extrovert who can express his skills and demonstrate his communication skills.
There are so many people competing for tech jobs, getting into a good company is very difficult. I used to be an introvert and I learned that in order for someone to compete in this world, they need to start to adapt and become an extrovert.
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You total $*&. Stupid %&#$!
Years later, they tied the knot and became just like every other married couple.
To save Slashdot readers some time in the future in all Google related News Stories. Let me provide a universal Table of Contents to summarize the posts that will inevitably follow:
Introduction of our Overlord:
- How many Google News Stories will we see today?
- "I am tired of hearing about Google!"
- I, for one, welcome our Google (topic) overlords
Chapter 1 Obligatory:
- Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of (topic)
- Does (topic) run Linux
- Step1: (topic), Step2: ???, Step3: Profit
Chapter 2 Conspiracy:
- Google = New Microsoft??
- Google = Skynet
- Is Google only friendly on the outside?
- Case Study: a guy who knows a guy that works at some company claiming Google as the next biggest competitor!!!
- Google Fight claims that all of the above are true!
Chapter 3 Downfall
- Is Google too big?
- Does Google have enough funding to branch out so much?
Conclusion Finale:
- Is Google going to be hit by a flying chair?
- Future of Google, such as GoogleOS and Google Condoms
Did you not watch that movie?? The aliens would die from all the germs and bacteria that humans are immune to! Simply coughing and sneezing at them will be our ultimate weapon. There is absolutely nothing to worry about!
Lest you forget, they also make an Operating System. They also make media apps. Why are you upset about greater competition in the console market? That should benefit all of us.
How long do you think this "competition" will last? The console market is not currently profitable at Microsoft, but they have their sights at the long term. And do you know what the long term goal is? Allow me illustrate to you their goal with evidence from Microsoft's hisotry of business practices:
Microsoft will keep throwing money at the problem to gain market share. And once they get rid of Sony, they will eventually out-last Nintendo as well. And when they do, do not expect Microsoft to provide any innovation.
They are notorious for taking over markets and then stop putting any Research and Development money into their monopolies. In other words, since they are saving money on R&D once they have a monopoly, they make profit for years to come. At the same time, Microsoft stifle innovation because the money that consumers give them gets no return in terms of R&D.
As consumers, we lose when Microsoft takes over a market. Microsoft's entry into the console market DOES NOT benefit us in the long run.
I feel a bit inadaquate as my halloween webcam (goes offline Saturday night) only has 337,920 pixels (704x480) - I guess size matters, eh?;-)
I've been to your site before -- great job, btw. Although your server is quite impressive, I want to see a live-feed of a 7680x4320 video @ 60-Hz showing us the server room (perferrably wired so that the visitors can cut the power of the cooling on demand) while it is being Slashdotted.
Burns to Homer: You can considered yourself DOWNSIZED.
Homer : What does that mean??
Smithers: I think it means you're dismissed, Homer.
Homer: Oh, good! Phew! Can I go back to work now?
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Well, if your brain gets eaten, make sure your muscles are pre-programmed to not pick-up any wheat products. Because the vegetarian zombies will be after you chanting:
If they were key executives, I would not be surprised if they get snatched up by a high-profile company within a few days -- especially during a time when Google might be rolling out an online word processing service.
Absolutely. According to Microsoft's logic, malicious people are targeting the biggest install base, causing the biggest player, Apache, to have all sorts of security problems. Oh wait, no it doesn't.
I think the current state of space exploration can be seen as "trying to run before learning to walk". We are trying to leap from the Computer Age right into the Space Age. A smoother progress might be going from the Computer Age to a Robotics/Nano-Machines Age to first stablize the these important technologies on Earth before applying them to space.
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Tell me, at what point does one send a big mesh to the processor when there is a GPU? What kind of real-time process are you running that requires so much computing power that you cannot parallelize the process? Video and Audio? No, they are highly parallelizable. AI and Physics? No, they are not computation intensive relative to multimedia. 3D graphics? Taken care of by the GPU.
Over the last years their entire raison d'etre seems to be to lock you into their products. Mainly by using their own crappy, non standard, proprietary formats . . . start writing XBox viruses ?
And Microsoft is better how? Microsoft is much worse on technological innovation than Sony. The difference is that Microsoft forces the market to use their crappy, non-standard, proprietary format by leveraging their monopoly. Sony does no harm by introducing something to the market as a choice from the competitors. You cannot do that with Microsoft.
Combining all the necessary computational power of current games, the percentage of processing time devoted to AI is completely insignificant to the computations required for multimedia. Games use very simple 'AI' (if you can even call it that in the field of AI), I doubt next-gen game is going to be shipped with the neural nets that you mentioned.
Back 10 years ago, you need to constantly upgrading your processor to keep up with the demands of game rquirements. Now, you will likely see that your old 2.4GHz works just fine on newly-released games. The reason is because the bulk of the computational power is serviced by the video card.
The PS3 is the same way. It is designed to take the load of computation-heavy processes such as multimedia and 3D applications. And guess what? That is what a console is.
You want evidence of how Microsoft stifles innovation? Look at IE compared to Firefox. Ever since Microsoft killed off Netscape, IE produced no innovation. It stayed the same way for years, and Microsoft didn't see the need to fix its numerous security issues. When you look at Firefox -- a free browser -- compared to IE that we pay for along with Windows, Firefox (created via much less capital) is years ahead of IE in terms of features.
Imagine if there was competition to keep Microsoft in check in the browser market: Homes and business would not have lost trillions on theft, lost data, time, and energy on the security exploits. Homes and businesses could have been more productive with improved features.
The same thinking can be extended to all monopolies. Because monopolies do not have competition, the monopoly can save money on research and development and pocket that money. This is why Microsoft is detrimental to innovation, and their entry into various markets is at the expense of consumers. The more money you give to Microsoft, the more money Microsoft has to screw you over.
Andy Serkis wore a body suit with positioning markers, and his body movements were tracked in real time by computers and cameras. Additional animation was required, but the movement of his "avatar" covered every joint and bone in his body in real time to an accuracy more than required for a computer to manipulate a sparring partner.
The technique you cited here is motion capture. However, there isn't any slow external device dependencies with recording coordinates from a few markers. It is also true that with current GPUs, mapping the coordinates onto a 3D model is not out of the question, but when they say "real-time", it doesn't necessarily mean "without delay" in the graphics world.
Motion determination and motor control is a completely different scenario altogether. If we assume that the motion capture cameras capture the location of the markers (ie. the motion capture markers does not have built-in wireless technology), then all the processor is doing is translating the marker coordinates to spine coordinates for the 3D model. Every coordinate only requires one frame.
To determine movement, on the other hand, requires many image frames, there is no way around it. It is the requirement of image frames that slows the process down, which is running much slower than a processor (we always assume that the processing power is negligible to external dependencies).
As for motors, I believe that this uses solinoids which do not need to ramp up
I haven't designed or manufactured motors, but I would think that the magnetic coil will still need to charge-up to a specific level to have enough EMF to drive the hydraulic system, so I believe that solenoids also require a ramp-up.
I have trained for 9 years in Wing Chun, and one of my training aids has been a wooden dummy
Sparring is more dynamic than wooden dummies. The wooden dummy does not provide the user with actual combat experience. The wooden dummy trains form, speed, and reaction. I'm sure your Sifu will agree with me. Regardless, the product is being advertised as an alternative to a sparring partner, which I disagree with.
I disagree. No matter how fast you may think your fists are, that microprocessor is considerably faster. Do you know how fast the scanning method scans for movement? Did you see how Gollum was created for LOTR? If the camera is running at a slow 60Hz, that is faster than the human eye, and you can certanly get faster response times.
I have not seen how Gollum was created. Note that mechanical movements involve a lot more than what you have in mind -- it is not just software nor is it motion capture. To determine movement, a processor requires image frames. If the algorithm requires 5 frames to determine movement with a camera running at 60FPS, that is already 1/12 of a second. Motors also need to ramp up. If image processing is used for "dodging", then their claim that the dummy can dodge punches is unlikely.
There is a few reasons why I doubt the usefulness of this robot.
1) To develop an "android" with "human-like" combative movements is unlikely at this point in time. The Actroid shown in the videos here is quite advanced in mimicing human motions, but the movements are very jerky and the motor control is very obvious.
2) The previous point leads to another problem. Training with a mechnical dummy is detrimental to gaining actual combat experience. The "android" will , no doubt, move in a series of jerky movements predefined by state machines. A human fighter flows from one move to another. The android can't help replicate real combat unless it has physics and advanced algorithms programmed into it. Also, the android shown in the picture seems to be stationary. Boxing and martial arts is very dynamic, so the android serves more like a game than a serious combat trainer.
3) The article claims that the android can dodge punches. I say that it can't. It takes a fist less than a quarter of a second to travel from the ready position to the opponent's face. The microprocessor needs to do image processing to realize that the fist is moving towards a specific area, which will require many image frames before it can actually determine the fist movements. And even if the microprocessor was able to act fast enough, I haven't seen any motors that can rotate fast enough.
4) Cost. A stepping side-kick has tremedous amount of force. If a kick can knock a human 10 feet back, I doubt that the android can sustain its working condition after numerous attacks. When it breaks down, how much would it cost to get it serviced?
The title of the paper is misleading, it stated that the "FTC staff conducted interviews with 98 individuals," which suggests that with the "enactment of CAN-SPAM, spam volume has begun to decline as has consumer frustration". Of course, the paper is written in such a way that CAN-SPAM was responsible for the "technological and marketplace developments in email since the enactment of CAN-SPAM." In other words, this is nothing but a government agency trying to hide the uselessness of a law they passed by taking credit for the technological advancements that combat spam.
What you have said is completely untrue. The tactics and strategy in Dragon Quest is much, much deeper than that of the typical RPG. When you just choose to not see the intricate combat system and decided to brute force your way through the game through "mindless grinding", it doesn't mean that the game is simple at all.
Sure, you can play Dragon Quest VIII by simply choosing Attack with all your characters, "grind" hours to overpower the dungeon which you should have tackled 5 levels ago, but that is only one way of playing it.
There is a very deep combat system that requries you to constantly calculate maximum damage output while minimizing damage input. If you tackle dungeons at the designed level range, you absolutely need to think of strategy for every combination of monster group that you encounter.
Unlike other RPGs, you can't mindlessly use the Attack command and hope to win every battle unharmed and reach the boss with adequate HP and MP. Again, you have to think of the best way to maximize damage output and minimize damage input.
As a simple example, let say your Hero does 5 damage and Yangus does 10 damage. If there are two monsters with 7 HP each, you should not set your Hero and Yangus to attack the same enemy in Round 1. You should set the Hero to attack Monster A, while Yangus attacks Monster B. This way, after the first round, one of the monster would be at 2HP, while the other would be dead. If you had set them to attack the same monster, one of the monster will have full HP.
Of course, the system gets more complicated depending on Agility, monster attacks, and many other factors. But it is the combination of tactics and choices every round in every battle that enables you to get to the boss with enough HP and MP to defeat it.
Definitely, if you chose to brute force your way through the game, then all you will see is "mindless grinding", but you are completely missing the strategic aspect of the combat system.
More often than not, the proposed system will save more lives than it takes. There are far more speeding vehicles than ones encountering the situation that you described. Like you have said, what you described can be solved by allowing a short burst of acceleration.
I live in Canada, and I have read numerous stories about reckless drivers (mostly teens to young adults) trying to race during rush hour traffic. I am sure that if you had a child in the car with you and almost got hit by a speeding vehicle, you would have no disagreements with the proposed system.
One can always do a whois on the domain name. The integrity of the registration information is another story though.
I have learned that being an extrovert will land you the great opportunities. I realized that no matter how much you know or how good you are, if you can't express your skills during critical moments, you are going to lose a job to an extrovert who can express his skills and demonstrate his communication skills.
There are so many people competing for tech jobs, getting into a good company is very difficult. I used to be an introvert and I learned that in order for someone to compete in this world, they need to start to adapt and become an extrovert.
You total $*&. Stupid %&#$!
Years later, they tied the knot and became just like every other married couple.
To save Slashdot readers some time in the future in all Google related News Stories. Let me provide a universal Table of Contents to summarize the posts that will inevitably follow:
Introduction of our Overlord:
- How many Google News Stories will we see today?
- "I am tired of hearing about Google!"
- I, for one, welcome our Google (topic) overlords
Chapter 1 Obligatory:
- Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of (topic)
- Does (topic) run Linux
- Step1: (topic), Step2: ???, Step3: Profit
Chapter 2 Conspiracy:
- Google = New Microsoft??
- Google = Skynet
- Is Google only friendly on the outside?
- Case Study: a guy who knows a guy that works at some company claiming Google as the next biggest competitor!!!
- Google Fight claims that all of the above are true!
Chapter 3 Downfall
- Is Google too big?
- Does Google have enough funding to branch out so much?
Conclusion Finale:
- Is Google going to be hit by a flying chair?
- Future of Google, such as GoogleOS and Google Condoms
You all know that it is true.
Did you not watch that movie?? The aliens would die from all the germs and bacteria that humans are immune to! Simply coughing and sneezing at them will be our ultimate weapon. There is absolutely nothing to worry about!
Lest you forget, they also make an Operating System. They also make media apps. Why are you upset about greater competition in the console market? That should benefit all of us.
How long do you think this "competition" will last? The console market is not currently profitable at Microsoft, but they have their sights at the long term. And do you know what the long term goal is? Allow me illustrate to you their goal with evidence from Microsoft's hisotry of business practices:
Microsoft will keep throwing money at the problem to gain market share. And once they get rid of Sony, they will eventually out-last Nintendo as well. And when they do, do not expect Microsoft to provide any innovation.
They are notorious for taking over markets and then stop putting any Research and Development money into their monopolies. In other words, since they are saving money on R&D once they have a monopoly, they make profit for years to come. At the same time, Microsoft stifle innovation because the money that consumers give them gets no return in terms of R&D.
As consumers, we lose when Microsoft takes over a market. Microsoft's entry into the console market DOES NOT benefit us in the long run.
He noticed my glance and I could see him size me up.
So you guys were checking each other out? Sounds to me like love at first sight. Did you get his number?
And running at a speed of Always-FLOPS.
I feel a bit inadaquate as my halloween webcam (goes offline Saturday night) only has 337,920 pixels (704x480) - I guess size matters, eh? ;-)
I've been to your site before -- great job, btw. Although your server is quite impressive, I want to see a live-feed of a 7680x4320 video @ 60-Hz showing us the server room (perferrably wired so that the visitors can cut the power of the cooling on demand) while it is being Slashdotted.
Burns to Homer: You can considered yourself DOWNSIZED.
Homer : What does that mean??
Smithers: I think it means you're dismissed, Homer.
Homer: Oh, good! Phew! Can I go back to work now?
Well, if your brain gets eaten, make sure your muscles are pre-programmed to not pick-up any wheat products. Because the vegetarian zombies will be after you chanting:
graaains
graaaaainnnns
If they were key executives, I would not be surprised if they get snatched up by a high-profile company within a few days -- especially during a time when Google might be rolling out an online word processing service.
Absolutely. According to Microsoft's logic, malicious people are targeting the biggest install base, causing the biggest player, Apache, to have all sorts of security problems. Oh wait, no it doesn't.
nt
I think the current state of space exploration can be seen as "trying to run before learning to walk". We are trying to leap from the Computer Age right into the Space Age. A smoother progress might be going from the Computer Age to a Robotics/Nano-Machines Age to first stablize the these important technologies on Earth before applying them to space.