How does the SE/30 so, netowrkwise, with NEtBSD? Which release were you running?
I run -current on my Cobalt Qube 2 (MIPS). 1.6.2 was OK, I'm much happier with -current, in terms of pkg builds. Both were stable.
I've a few SE/30's under my desk, as footrests, that could turn into sftpd servers if they could move data at any sort of useable speed- but I think they'd be too slow? I've only tried ftp on them via NEtPresenz or similar, is NetBSD faster?
Thanks!
Just as McDonalds hamburgers aren't made for the purpose of causing childrent to be obese, and McDonalds coffee is not sold for the causing 3rd degree burns... but look how the courts went on that one.
Actually McD deserved to lose on that one.
They were intentionally flaunting/ignoring health department warnings and citations because they had their coffee makers turned up too high, and the liquid was not "safe".
Food service code says you can't serve hot liquids at a temp. which causes 3rd degree burns in less than ?20? 30? seconds- time to wipe it off etc.
They were serving their stuff at a temp that caused 3rd degree burns in 3 seconds (IIRC).
Yes, litigious society, nuisance lawsuits, etc, but this was big evil corp ignoring safety rules that were in place for a reason.
HTH.
Well as a science type myself, turning something totally loose isn't a very controlled experiment:) I agree, it does seem unlikely that this was "planned".
I was replying more to the tone (as I saw it) in the post of "our guys would never do something like that". They have, they will likely again, in my opinion. Especially with the current (as I see it) attitude held by our leaders that they are right no matter what laws, rules, etc. they have to blow away to do what they see as "right".
>Wow! You sure know something that no one else does! Unless of course you're
>just BSing because it's fun to pretend that a secret US method of testing a >bio-weapon on its own citizens would be to mail it to people. What complete, >tinfoil-lined crap, and you know it. I can't believe this was modded >insightful. Wait... where am I? Slashdot? I suppose I can, actually.
Read much about military testing of biologicals, radiation, drugs etc in the 40's, 50's, 60's on the poor and military populations and I think even into the 70's (an Indian tribe test pop. in the 70s I think). Oh, in the USA, I left that part out.
Yah, they told all THOSE people what was up. 30-50 years later...
We're testing them this summer in a smaller class at university level.
IR: don't bother, unless a tiny class in a tiny classroom.
RF: works great, 200+ students OK, manufacturer software (for multiple choice, grading, layout) makes a big difference- it's a pretty new field and honestly some of these companies have no clue as to what would work in a classroom, and what will not.
The company we are working with is very responsive and I'd guess in 3-4 months will have tweeked things in software to make us happy. Goal is to use in 400 student courses so some kinda klunky things (data entry, formatting, etc) that would work for small groups (not suck up much instructor time "fixing") are a huge issue with large groups.
It's a good tech. Early adopters will have to spend a little time.
Really avoid the IR except for very small groups, though.
Well, you must be clicking the "yes let it install button" then for your system to get modified even with all the paranoid options in SB enabled.
6-12 min for a naked WinXP machine to be trojaned; load the tools I mention on, you will not be trojaned without your permission. what more to you want/need? I disagree with your statement that "these users would not get viruses anyway" (paraphrased.
If you want to confirm running hostile activeX and then claim that's a failure of your protecting software, well I guess you can claim that.
where did these PC vs. Mac posters come from anyway? That's not the point, guys.
I think you are not utiliizing the SB S&D properly.
It "iimmuniizes" against all known, plus warns you whenever a registry or other system setting is being updated by any app.
So I think it's incorrect to say, it canot protect you against unknowns. And SB wil let you remove anything you want that's installed. there is an "advanved" panel in the thins you can perform, you know...
I'm not sure how you say P2P and chat can't be run with the mentiond freeware, they certainly can, zonealarm or SB just askk you if you meant to run this ap that want to "do things". Seems pretty straightforward to me, and even my grandparents make it work.
I have a standard email that I send out to friends/family/coworkers who are involving me in their new CUP purchase. Skip the commercial stuff that you have to pay for every year, use freeware/shareware and you have a better performing system, and no future fees.
I was pretty disappointed with the payoff from my degrees, until I left academia.
there's a whole other world out there... one that pays you what you are worth.
B
> Nope - but telling people in AIDS-stricken regions that using condoms is a sin... not so cool.
It's OK, my understanding is that they made up for it by digging the Africans lots of shallow wells, causing huge population increases, but also guaranteeing that the wells would dry up during the next big drought and the people would have no way to water their increased numbers.
cryro-protectants - sort of like antifreeze - that will prevent cells from this damage. I believe the idea is inspired by some species of fish and frogs will become almost entirely frozen during a winter and revive unharmed. Applications for the technology could include extended human space travel and all of the other sci-fi-sounding reasons for freezing people. (I fo
North American Wood Frog, for one.
freezes solid each winter.
See:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/3209/05.ht ml
for a 4 min video of the process.
the frog uses a sugar as a cryoprotectant, but still freezes solid. (the sugar is biologically useful but not enough to depress the freezing point enough to keep him liquid, he is rock-hard).
My favorite are the carnivorous caterpillars that eat insects trapped on ice fields- they have low levels of ethylene glycol in their hemolymph.
He mentions he will put LEDs in, I think it would be fun to put a strobe in/around it somewhere... should look interesting, stop-motion of all those fans...
>The only way to "detect" weak betas like tritium is to mix it with some other substance that glows just a tiny bit when hit with low energy
---------
Actually you can get special types of handheld counters for looking at tritium. I was typing too fast:)
The distance a weak beta particle can go in air, though, is 1/6 of an inch.
Not very useful for scanning (as in our public transit example), as a result.
Well, troll is a little strong I think, the concern is valid but should be alleviated with some background knowledge:)
These batteries won't be detected by radiation detectors, anyway. No pulling you off public transport for that.
Not only will the weak beta radiation not get out of the battery, even if the battery does leak, you can pour millicuries of tritium all over detectors, be it badges or geigers or whatever. The weak beta radiation won't even develop film.
Now, medicinal doses of I131 or wahtever- those show up loud and clear. I had a friend who had to have his thyroid zapped- he pegged out lab geiger from 5 feet away.
Weak beta emitters like tritium that are really almost no concern- I'd like it if they were more dangerous as then you can monitor them more easily (they show up on things like a geiger).
The onyl way to "detect" weak betas like tritium is to mix it with some other substance that glows just a tiny bit when hit with low energy beta particles, and then load it into a special very sensitive machine to look for that emitted light.
All that said, I'd like to know if they are loading their battery with millicurie quantities or what- if it leaked, that could be an ingestion hazard. I've not RTFA to see though:)
HTH.
HTH.
The beta radiation from tritium won't even penetrate the outler layer of dead skin cells on your body. It's that weak. Nothing would get out of the battery to trip any detectors.
You have to eat huge amounts of it to get any harmful doses.
See :
http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/tritium.htm
There's been a PAM module around for ages that generates a set of random passwords to pick from, each containing pronounceable components. The idea being it's still pretty random, but easier to remember.
sorta like OwaTagooSiam02
but that would not be a good choice:)
As other posters say, I think that security books for years have said password rotation just forces users to pick insecure passwords.
Better would be to have one really good one and don't rotate it much/ever.
Well, the TV series was a long time ago, Zaphod was cutting edge puppetry for the time. At least he looked drunk a lot.
The techy effects would be great to see done with the newer tech now. But without the wordplay... I don't know. It's like watching Shakespeare- with good actors and the real dialogue, the Royal Shakespeare comany doesn't even bother with a set- just a frame doorway or whatever.
Adams was wonderful with the quirky _dialogue_.
>As you said, if you don't want "images from the >movie to stick" in your mind, the best bet is to >not watch it.
I've read this type of comment a few times in the articles abotu the new movie, reviews, etc.
What I don't get: haven't all these people SEEN THE SERIES? The BBC TV series is really well done, the dialog for what is included is almost word for word from the book.
I already have a picture in my head. Some of it came from the first reading of the book, the rest, from the other TV series. I thought they cast Arthur and Ford perfectly...
What makes the HHGG book so fun for me is the dialog- the word play, etc. I could handle (barely) leaving bits of plot out, etc, but shortening or trimming all the _fun_ parts of the dialog out, as the earlier review of the new movie showed mentioned, would just kill the thing. IMO.
There were a few studies done a while ago, looking at cutting boards (in the kitchen).
Those nice clean-looking plastic cutting boards- grow bacteria super well.
Those wood ones, that you would think be full of trapped food etc. in the grain- bacteria just sort of disappear from them over time, IIRC. Speculation that the bugs got "popped" by the pointy wood fibers or similar effect was made, but I don't think it's been totally determined. These weren't cedar boards or anything that would be toxic.
This finding has repeated well, and I read about it every few years in some of those close-to-turkey-day home-health-type announcements.
While I'm sure your family is OK, I'm not sure about the stats for mortality rate etc. for being Christian.
The most religious areas of the US are large in population #'s, and as a rule have the worst infant mortality/child health/social health/mental health/ pretty much any benchmark you wish to measure, with appropriately shortened life spans.
Talking US in general, IIRC we are 50th in a ranking of 50 countries for quality and access to health care, and really really bad in terms of infant mortality per 1000 births, comparable to 3rd world nations even- there was a recent NYT article (I think it even made slashdot).
One should probably also do something statistically to rule out the effects of being part of a Western society when examining the effect of religion on life span, too.
If you want to talk GLOBALLY about life span, I could see Europe bringing the average up. Talking strictly USA, as we are here, I don't see it.
When I had to study things like this in college courses (life span, health care ranking etc) we actually don't fare all that well, here in the US, for all the patriotism and hype.
Also, I'm not sure that R strategists consider life expendable; they have a life history that has selected for lots of offspring due to high risk, but I'm sure any given mouse feels valuable.... and there are easily found times in the US history where people had many more than your 5 kids 'cos so many were lost to many causes. Sounds like an R strategy to me, anyway, and revisionist history anyway tells us that all the previous generations here were super religious....
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How does the SE/30 so, netowrkwise, with NEtBSD? Which release were you running? I run -current on my Cobalt Qube 2 (MIPS). 1.6.2 was OK, I'm much happier with -current, in terms of pkg builds. Both were stable. I've a few SE/30's under my desk, as footrests, that could turn into sftpd servers if they could move data at any sort of useable speed- but I think they'd be too slow? I've only tried ftp on them via NEtPresenz or similar, is NetBSD faster? Thanks!
Just as McDonalds hamburgers aren't made for the purpose of causing childrent to be obese, and McDonalds coffee is not sold for the causing 3rd degree burns... but look how the courts went on that one.
Actually McD deserved to lose on that one. They were intentionally flaunting/ignoring health department warnings and citations because they had their coffee makers turned up too high, and the liquid was not "safe". Food service code says you can't serve hot liquids at a temp. which causes 3rd degree burns in less than ?20? 30? seconds- time to wipe it off etc. They were serving their stuff at a temp that caused 3rd degree burns in 3 seconds (IIRC). Yes, litigious society, nuisance lawsuits, etc, but this was big evil corp ignoring safety rules that were in place for a reason. HTH.
Well as a science type myself, turning something totally loose isn't a very controlled experiment :) I agree, it does seem unlikely that this was "planned".
I was replying more to the tone (as I saw it) in the post of "our guys would never do something like that". They have, they will likely again, in my opinion. Especially with the current (as I see it) attitude held by our leaders that they are right no matter what laws, rules, etc. they have to blow away to do what they see as "right".
But I should have made my angle more clear....
>Wow! You sure know something that no one else does! Unless of course you're
>just BSing because it's fun to pretend that a secret US method of testing a
>bio-weapon on its own citizens would be to mail it to people. What complete,
>tinfoil-lined crap, and you know it. I can't believe this was modded
>insightful. Wait... where am I? Slashdot? I suppose I can, actually.
Read much about military testing of biologicals, radiation, drugs etc in the 40's, 50's, 60's on the poor and military populations and I think even into the 70's (an Indian tribe test pop. in the 70s I think). Oh, in the USA, I left that part out.
Yah, they told all THOSE people what was up. 30-50 years later...
We're testing them this summer in a smaller class at university level.
IR: don't bother, unless a tiny class in a tiny classroom.
RF: works great, 200+ students OK, manufacturer software (for multiple choice, grading, layout) makes a big difference- it's a pretty new field and honestly some of these companies have no clue as to what would work in a classroom, and what will not.
The company we are working with is very responsive and I'd guess in 3-4 months will have tweeked things in software to make us happy. Goal is to use in 400 student courses so some kinda klunky things (data entry, formatting, etc) that would work for small groups (not suck up much instructor time "fixing") are a huge issue with large groups.
It's a good tech. Early adopters will have to spend a little time.
Really avoid the IR except for very small groups, though.
Well, you must be clicking the "yes let it install button" then for your system to get modified even with all the paranoid options in SB enabled.
6-12 min for a naked WinXP machine to be trojaned; load the tools I mention on, you will not be trojaned without your permission. what more to you want/need? I disagree with your statement that "these users would not get viruses anyway" (paraphrased.
If you want to confirm running hostile activeX and then claim that's a failure of your protecting software, well I guess you can claim that.
where did these PC vs. Mac posters come from anyway? That's not the point, guys.
I think you are not utiliizing the SB S&D properly.
It "iimmuniizes" against all known, plus warns you whenever a registry or other system setting is being updated by any app.
So I think it's incorrect to say, it canot protect you against unknowns. And SB wil let you remove anything you want that's installed. there is an "advanved" panel in the thins you can perform, you know...
I'm not sure how you say P2P and chat can't be run with the mentiond freeware, they certainly can, zonealarm or SB just askk you if you meant to run this ap that want to "do things". Seems pretty straightforward to me, and even my grandparents make it work.
HTH.
You can drop $200 on subscription software (not counting renewals yearly) to keep your Windows box safe, or you can use freeware:
zonealarm basic (free)
AdAware (free)
Spybot Search and Destroy (free)
AVG antivirus (free)
I have a standard email that I send out to friends/family/coworkers who are involving me in their new CUP purchase. Skip the commercial stuff that you have to pay for every year, use freeware/shareware and you have a better performing system, and no future fees.
the "Left Behind" series is whaat you are looking for. Pornography for christians.
I was pretty disappointed with the payoff from my degrees, until I left academia. there's a whole other world out there... one that pays you what you are worth. B
nice job, you just turned their site off....
> Nope - but telling people in AIDS-stricken regions
that using condoms is a sin... not so cool.
It's OK, my understanding is that they made up for it by digging the Africans lots of shallow wells, causing huge population increases, but also guaranteeing that the wells would dry up during the next big drought and the people would have no way to water their increased numbers.
cryro-protectants - sort of like antifreeze - that will prevent cells from this damage. I believe the idea is inspired by some species of fish and frogs will become almost entirely frozen during a winter and revive unharmed. Applications for the technology could include extended human space travel and all of the other sci-fi-sounding reasons for freezing people. (I fo
t ml
North American Wood Frog, for one.
freezes solid each winter.
See: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/3209/05.h
for a 4 min video of the process.
the frog uses a sugar as a cryoprotectant, but still freezes solid.
(the sugar is biologically useful but not enough to depress the freezing point enough to keep him liquid, he is rock-hard).
My favorite are the carnivorous caterpillars that eat insects trapped on ice fields- they have low levels of ethylene glycol in their hemolymph.
He mentions he will put LEDs in, I think it would be fun to put a strobe in/around it somewhere... should look interesting, stop-motion of all those fans...
>The only way to "detect" weak betas like tritium is to mix it with some other substance that glows just a tiny bit when hit with low energy :)
---------
Actually you can get special types of handheld counters for looking at tritium. I was typing too fast
The distance a weak beta particle can go in air, though, is 1/6 of an inch.
Not very useful for scanning (as in our public transit example), as a result.
Well, troll is a little strong I think, the concern is valid but should be alleviated with some background knowledge :)
These batteries won't be detected by radiation detectors, anyway. No pulling you off public transport for that.
Not only will the weak beta radiation not get out of the battery, even if the battery does leak, you can pour millicuries of tritium all over detectors, be it badges or geigers or whatever. The weak beta radiation won't even develop film.
Now, medicinal doses of I131 or wahtever- those show up loud and clear. I had a friend who had to have his thyroid zapped- he pegged out lab geiger from 5 feet away.
Weak beta emitters like tritium that are really almost no concern- I'd like it if they were more dangerous as then you can monitor them more easily (they show up on things like a geiger).
The onyl way to "detect" weak betas like tritium is to mix it with some other substance that glows just a tiny bit when hit with low energy beta particles, and then load it into a special very sensitive machine to look for that emitted light.
All that said, I'd like to know if they are loading their battery with millicurie quantities or what- if it leaked, that could be an ingestion hazard. I've not RTFA to see though :)
HTH.
HTH.
The beta radiation from tritium won't even penetrate the outler layer of dead skin cells on your body. It's that weak. Nothing would get out of the battery to trip any detectors.
You have to eat huge amounts of it to get any harmful doses.
See : http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/tritium.htm
There's been a PAM module around for ages that generates a set of random passwords to pick from, each containing pronounceable components. The idea being it's still pretty random, but easier to remember.
:)
sorta like OwaTagooSiam02
but that would not be a good choice
As other posters say, I think that security books for years have said password rotation just forces users to pick insecure passwords.
Better would be to have one really good one and don't rotate it much/ever.
Well, the TV series was a long time ago, Zaphod was cutting edge puppetry for the time. At least he looked drunk a lot. The techy effects would be great to see done with the newer tech now. But without the wordplay... I don't know. It's like watching Shakespeare- with good actors and the real dialogue, the Royal Shakespeare comany doesn't even bother with a set- just a frame doorway or whatever. Adams was wonderful with the quirky _dialogue_.
>As you said, if you don't want "images from the >movie to stick" in your mind, the best bet is to >not watch it.
I've read this type of comment a few times in the articles abotu the new movie, reviews, etc.
What I don't get: haven't all these people SEEN THE SERIES? The BBC TV series is really well done, the dialog for what is included is almost word for word from the book.
I already have a picture in my head. Some of it came from the first reading of the book, the rest, from the other TV series. I thought they cast Arthur and Ford perfectly...
What makes the HHGG book so fun for me is the dialog- the word play, etc. I could handle (barely) leaving bits of plot out, etc, but shortening or trimming all the _fun_ parts of the dialog out, as the earlier review of the new movie showed mentioned, would just kill the thing. IMO.
> Bugs cant survive on wood?
Actually, they don't survive that well.
There were a few studies done a while ago, looking at cutting boards (in the kitchen).
Those nice clean-looking plastic cutting boards- grow bacteria super well.
Those wood ones, that you would think be full of trapped food etc. in the grain- bacteria just sort of disappear from them over time, IIRC. Speculation that the bugs got "popped" by the pointy wood fibers or similar effect was made, but I don't think it's been totally determined. These weren't cedar boards or anything that would be toxic.
This finding has repeated well, and I read about it every few years in some of those close-to-turkey-day home-health-type announcements.
HTH.
It really is just eddies in the space-time continuum....
I'm just happy someone here knew about the R/K strategy thing :)
Thanks for the even-toned response :)
While I'm sure your family is OK, I'm not sure about the stats for mortality rate etc. for being Christian.
The most religious areas of the US are large in population #'s, and as a rule have the worst infant mortality/child health/social health/mental health/ pretty much any benchmark you wish to measure, with appropriately shortened life spans.
Talking US in general, IIRC we are 50th in a ranking of 50 countries for quality and access to health care, and really really bad in terms of infant mortality per 1000 births, comparable to 3rd world nations even- there was a recent NYT article (I think it even made slashdot).
One should probably also do something statistically to rule out the effects of being part of a Western society when examining the effect of religion on life span, too.
If you want to talk GLOBALLY about life span, I could see Europe bringing the average up. Talking strictly USA, as we are here, I don't see it.
When I had to study things like this in college courses (life span, health care ranking etc) we actually don't fare all that well, here in the US, for all the patriotism and hype.
Also, I'm not sure that R strategists consider life expendable; they have a life history that has selected for lots of offspring due to high risk, but I'm sure any given mouse feels valuable.... and there are easily found times in the US history where people had many more than your 5 kids 'cos so many were lost to many causes. Sounds like an R strategy to me, anyway, and revisionist history anyway tells us that all the previous generations here were super religious....
It's pretty clear from recent historical and political events in the USA, that in this location the "R" strategists have outbred the "K" strategists.