I dunno, that's a lot of evil to concentrate into one place.
Re. the naming: Back when IBM-acquiring-Apple rumors used to circulate back in the 80's, the joke was this: What do you call the merger between IBM and Apple? IBM.
I could totally believe it's UUNet. Pretty much the most evil, pro-spam ISP on the internet. And they have been known to use the legal system to attack anti-spammers in the past.
His name is Tom DeWitt; he's a video artist from New York. I saw the system -- which he called a Pantograph -- in operation a number of times. The person in front of the camera wore a few colored spots which the PDP-8 was able to (with some specialized hardware) determine their positions. This was decades before such systems were being routinely used for motion capture.
The system was crude by today's standards, but Tom was actually able to give a concert with an "air cello".
Disagree. The harm done by those 18M spams is greatly outweighed by the good done by catching the spammers. It would have been nice to have the 18M spams quietly dropped into the bit bucket, but even so, it was still worth it if Microsoft catches the spammers.
Well, I have been blacklisted too, but it was because I am using a dymaic IP... Have you ever thought that there are a lot of people just like me?
Sure; I'm one of them. My own IPs are blacklisted for the exact same reasons yours are. I sucked it up and started using my service provider's static mail host rather than trying to use direct-to-mx email. Yeah, it's a hassle, but well worth it to keep my spam load down.
Actually, my blacklists are mostly keyword-based, although there are some IP blocks listed (mostly in China).
All I can say is that the inconvenience caused to the new owner of a tainted block of IPs does not outweigh the inconvenience caused to me by spam.
True, this means that there are huge blocks of IP addresses out there that have become poisoned by the spammers. It's like a piece of real-estate tainted by toxic waste from the irresponsible gas station that used to be located there. Sure, it sucks for the new owners of the land, but why is that my problem?
Blacklists are not a perfect solution. If you think you have a better one, I'm sure we'd all like to hear it.
Was it for -- wait, let me guess -- was it maybe for spamming? Maybe next time you won't spam or let your users spam. Just a thought.
the sysadmins who run these things often WILL NOT remove you
Which sysadmins are those? Certainly that's true for my system. Once I drop a spammer into the system blacklist they're there for life. I don't have the time or energy to audit my block list, and what would be my motivation anyway?
The major RBL's on the other hand, will remove you if -- and this is the important part -- if you stop spamming. In this sense, the RBLs are doing you a great service. If the RBLs list you before I get mad enough to block you myself, then you have a chance to eventually get unblocked. Would you care to name a major RBL that continued to list you even after you cleaned up your act?
I'd take all the SPAM anyday vs. not being able to send legitimate emails
Ahh, but you weren't really listed for sending legitimate emails were you? If you're willing to accept spam in exchange for the ability to send it, then that seems perfectly fine to me. All the sites that want to send spam, and are willing to receive it in return need merely not subscribe to the RBLs. Voilla! The system works.
I, on the other hand, am perfectly willing to not receive spam in exchange for your inability to send it to me. The system works again!
However, a spammer with false credentials faked his way into a hosting account with my colo provider
Why didn't your colo provider just get rid of the spammer?
Ten years ago a CERT advisory came out with my name on it due to a buffer overflow exploit in code I'd written for Solaris/Sparc (in my defense, I'd copied-and-pasted the offending section from someone else's code).
I've often speculated that buffer-overlow exploits would not be such a problem if stacks grew in the other direction, but suggesting that it's somehow unique to x86 is ludicrous.
We should have a betting pool on how many people point out that you're not supposed to breathe outside on the moon. Thanks folks, I never knew that.
Seriously, the stuff sounds like playa dust to me, and anybody who's ever been out on the playa knows that you track that stuff in with you all the time. If lunar dust is half as pervasive as playa dust, it's going to take serious decontamination to keep it outside.
People have already started to disapear. Mostly foreign nationals, but also two american citizens so far: Jose Pedilla and Yaser Hamdi. No charges, no trials, no access to lawyers, press or family.
In the words of Deep Thought: The Great Hyperlobic Omni-Cognate Neutron Wrangler could talk all four legs off an Arcturan Mega-Donkey -- but only I could persuade it to go for a walk afterward."
Google coredumper makes a core dump of a running program -- and the program keeps running.
NSI is currently claiming that the transfer was legitimate - somehow the hijacker got into the administrative contact's email and compromised the accounts
I've heard it described thusly: NSI couldn't secure a lava pool against snowmen.
Think of races.com, sex.com and who knows how many others. As long as NSI feels no pain when they fuck up and give a domain away, the situation will continue.
From what I've heard, only a fool would register with NSI.
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Am I the only one seeing the razor blade event horizon coming?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_Event_Horizon
The nuclear industry could have used this information after the 3 Mile Island Fiasco.
I can see the tv commercials now: "Some call it a nuclear disaster. We call it life".
I dunno, that's a lot of evil to concentrate into one place.
Re. the naming: Back when IBM-acquiring-Apple rumors used to circulate back in the 80's, the joke was this: What do you call the merger between IBM and Apple? IBM.
I could totally believe it's UUNet. Pretty much the most evil, pro-spam ISP on the internet. And they have been known to use the legal system to attack anti-spammers in the past.
Like the last time. Or Races.com.
His name is Tom DeWitt; he's a video artist from New York. I saw the system -- which he called a Pantograph -- in operation a number of times. The person in front of the camera wore a few colored spots which the PDP-8 was able to (with some specialized hardware) determine their positions. This was decades before such systems were being routinely used for motion capture.
The system was crude by today's standards, but Tom was actually able to give a concert with an "air cello".
An account of that concert: http://www.experimentaltvcenter.org/history/tools/ ttool.php3?id=15
No, it's like fining somebody for leaving the keys in their car, which is subsequently stolen and used to vandalize other people's property.
Disagree. The harm done by those 18M spams is greatly outweighed by the good done by catching the spammers. It would have been nice to have the 18M spams quietly dropped into the bit bucket, but even so, it was still worth it if Microsoft catches the spammers.
"Back then"? Network Solutions is infamous for this kind of screwup. Remember races.com?
As one friend said, "Network Solutions couldn't secure a lava pool against snowmen"
No, Microsoft has had a long record of strongly fighting (or buying) competitors.
Sure; I'm one of them. My own IPs are blacklisted for the exact same reasons yours are. I sucked it up and started using my service provider's static mail host rather than trying to use direct-to-mx email. Yeah, it's a hassle, but well worth it to keep my spam load down.
Actually, my blacklists are mostly keyword-based, although there are some IP blocks listed (mostly in China).
All I can say is that the inconvenience caused to the new owner of a tainted block of IPs does not outweigh the inconvenience caused to me by spam.
True, this means that there are huge blocks of IP addresses out there that have become poisoned by the spammers. It's like a piece of real-estate tainted by toxic waste from the irresponsible gas station that used to be located there. Sure, it sucks for the new owners of the land, but why is that my problem?
Blacklists are not a perfect solution. If you think you have a better one, I'm sure we'd all like to hear it.
Was it for -- wait, let me guess -- was it maybe for spamming? Maybe next time you won't spam or let your users spam. Just a thought.
the sysadmins who run these things often WILL NOT remove youWhich sysadmins are those? Certainly that's true for my system. Once I drop a spammer into the system blacklist they're there for life. I don't have the time or energy to audit my block list, and what would be my motivation anyway?
The major RBL's on the other hand, will remove you if -- and this is the important part -- if you stop spamming. In this sense, the RBLs are doing you a great service. If the RBLs list you before I get mad enough to block you myself, then you have a chance to eventually get unblocked. Would you care to name a major RBL that continued to list you even after you cleaned up your act?
I'd take all the SPAM anyday vs. not being able to send legitimate emailsAhh, but you weren't really listed for sending legitimate emails were you? If you're willing to accept spam in exchange for the ability to send it, then that seems perfectly fine to me. All the sites that want to send spam, and are willing to receive it in return need merely not subscribe to the RBLs. Voilla! The system works.
I, on the other hand, am perfectly willing to not receive spam in exchange for your inability to send it to me. The system works again!
However, a spammer with false credentials faked his way into a hosting account with my colo provider Why didn't your colo provider just get rid of the spammer?
I wonder if some sort of class-action suit wouldn't be appropriate against the vendors of software which allows computers to become zombies?
Ten years ago a CERT advisory came out with my name on it due to a buffer overflow exploit in code I'd written for Solaris/Sparc (in my defense, I'd copied-and-pasted the offending section from someone else's code).
I've often speculated that buffer-overlow exploits would not be such a problem if stacks grew in the other direction, but suggesting that it's somehow unique to x86 is ludicrous.
We should have a betting pool on how many people point out that you're not supposed to breathe outside on the moon. Thanks folks, I never knew that. Seriously, the stuff sounds like playa dust to me, and anybody who's ever been out on the playa knows that you track that stuff in with you all the time. If lunar dust is half as pervasive as playa dust, it's going to take serious decontamination to keep it outside.
People have already started to disapear. Mostly foreign nationals, but also two american citizens so far: Jose Pedilla and Yaser Hamdi. No charges, no trials, no access to lawyers, press or family.
In the words of Deep Thought: The Great Hyperlobic Omni-Cognate Neutron Wrangler could talk all four legs off an Arcturan Mega-Donkey -- but only I could persuade it to go for a walk afterward."
Google coredumper makes a core dump of a running program -- and the program keeps running.
Someone recently pointed me to this web page:
http://www.alienryderflex.com/rotoscope/
There are some *astonishing* StarWars fanfic films on this web page, esp. the first one.
(Unfortunately, most of the links are dead.)
NSI is currently claiming that the transfer was legitimate - somehow the hijacker got into the administrative contact's email and compromised the accounts
I've heard it described thusly: NSI couldn't secure a lava pool against snowmen.
Think of races.com, sex.com and who knows how many others. As long as NSI feels no pain when they fuck up and give a domain away, the situation will continue.
From what I've heard, only a fool would register with NSI.
Apple is now selling $500 computers. I'll bet their mailer and browser are not susceptible to these problems.
If it comes into your system, your system was insecure. By running an insecure system, you harm us all by helping worms & viruses to spread.
I think worms that go around closing the security holes that let them in are a Good Thing and it's about time they started appearing.
Beware. I was at work, jerk.
Looks or no looks, she just made sexiest geek alive for 2004 in my book.