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Google Launches Google Code

ibjhb writes "Google is at it again and has launched Google Code. It appears to be "Google's place for Open Source software". " Can't say that I'm surprised that our old friend (and former Slashdot Author) Chris DiBona is working on this one. They have links to several open source projects, as well as to Google API information.

235 comments

  1. uh oh by peculiarmethod · · Score: 4, Funny

    Freshmeat just got a 'best if used by' date.

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    1. Re:uh oh by ihatewinXP · · Score: 1

      You have a great point, but I wouldnt go that far yet. Freshmeat already has an installed use base of...... oh damn near everyone.

      While google will have some great features (as they have done with maps and answers) I dont believe it will be enough to cause a mass exodus from Freshmeat et. at. But with their leveraging power they will surely be the next generations choice.

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    2. Re:uh oh by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Interesting

      not exactly freshmeat..

      **What is code.google.com?
      Code.google.com is our site for external developers interested in Google-related development. It's where we'll publish free source code and lists of our API services.**

      besides than that.. *Why are you releasing code through Sourceforge?
      Well, because they were nice enough to oblige, and because developers here like Sourceforge. Future homes for new projects might include Tigris.org or language specific sites like the Vaults of Parnassus and CPAN. *

      yeah. ALL THE PROJECTS ARE ON SOURCEFORGE!

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    3. Re:uh oh by Curtman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      yeah. ALL THE PROJECTS ARE ON SOURCEFORGE!

      Good point. Because Sourceforge, Freshmeat, and Slashdot are all OSTG pages. This is nice to see Google taking an interest in OSTG, not competing with it.

    4. Re:uh oh by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 4, Funny

      What happens when they open Googledot.org ;)

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    5. Re:uh oh by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 4, Funny

      We won't have as many duped posts? Articles and links will be checked before they're posted? Grievous spelling errors will be corrected in the editing process? There will actually be an editing process?

      On the other hand, there will still be a Cowboy Neal Option in the polls.

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    6. Re:uh oh by Thud457 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Goddamn, I nailed that one

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    7. Re:uh oh by zebs · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe a decent search too...

    8. Re:uh oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      What happens when they open Googledot.org ;)

      Well, I for one will welcome out google over-ack-cough-choke-aaaacccckkkkk.....

      @no dialtone

    9. Re:uh oh by Ed+Avis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes - at first I thought this was going to be a search engine for source code, grepping through tons of free software. That would be a rather useful thing to have (how do I use this library? I'll just grep for an example). There is koders.com but its search engine isn't that gret - when looking through source code you need to be able to include punctuation characters and search by them.

      All you really need to do is spider freshmeat.net, download the tarball of the latest release of each app, and do a massive grep whenever anyone submits a query. OK, not quite that simple. But almost - the total source code size is tiny compared to, say, a Web search engine, so you don't have to be that clever with indexing. You could do a keyword search as the first stage and then grep.

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    10. Re:uh oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HE'S A WHICH..BURN HIM!!!

    11. Re:uh oh by Ed+Avis · · Score: 1

      For koders I should have RTFM - you can search for most things, you just have to escape metacharacters with backslash. Perhaps it will be the thing to use; I just need to make sure all my own code is in there...

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    12. Re:uh oh by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maybe Google can buy out OSTG and we can have a slashdot.google.com or geeknews.google.com. :)

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    13. Re:uh oh by fbg111 · · Score: 1

      What happens when they open Googledot.org ;)

      Given the relative size of the servers/farms, Slashdot might get Googledotted.

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  2. Bad title by bird603568 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I got my hopes up. I saw Google Code and thought they were releasing thier code for goodle. After reading, I found out its another "service" thing. What ever its pro OSS

    1. Re:Bad title by otisaardvark · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Hmmm... I was hoping it would be Google helping you search through Sourceforge and other open repositories in a more directed way... improved code search tools would be great, but this isn't bad!

    2. Re:Bad title by mebob · · Score: 1

      yeah the sourceforge search function needs soem help.

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    3. Re:Bad title by SirTalon42 · · Score: 1

      Its powered by Yahoo... what did you expect?

    4. Re:Bad title by Dolda2000 · · Score: 1
      It's not such a bad title. Although it's not the entire Google source code, it is part of it.

      From the FAQ:

      Are these programs still in active use at Google? They aren't just in active use; they're in active development. These first projects are all current, actively maintained code straight out of our repositories, and as we improve them, those improvements will be merged into the free code base.
    5. Re:Bad title by Dolda2000 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Are you referring to adding "site:sourceforge.net" to your search terms, like this?

    6. Re:Bad title by otisaardvark · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No. I was referring to tools specially adapted to searching through code itself.

    7. Re:Bad title by Myddrin · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Yeah, I did too. I'm really not sure I see why thye haven't. The amount of hardware required makes anyone "stealing" the code and setting up "Hoogle.com" just about impossible. (The only one who might want to is MSNSearch, and do you think they would really use open source code so publicly?)

      Not saying that I think they have a moral obligation here, I think they have done more than enough for the FOSS community.... but I am sort of curious as to why they keep their source closed.

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    8. Re:Bad title by qwerbus · · Score: 1

      Releaing google code? Thats almost as unlikely as Microsofot ever being nice to anyone.

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    9. Re:Bad title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd be damn happy if google decided to help Our Very Own Slashdot in that regard.

      slash's search code has always blown chunks.

    10. Re:Bad title by grahamlee · · Score: 1

      What's required in that case is decent in-code documentation - it's easier, for instance, to know that you want to search for "virtual memory cleanup mach" than to know that you want to search for "vm_object_cache_clear site:freebsd.org". Lots of LISP and Python contains embedded docstrings, Perl can contain embedded POD but I personally don't come across it that often. There certainly doesn't seem to be a single widely-used convention for embedding documentation in C or ObjC. I expect that with a useful convention for embedded docstrings, your hypothetical "codesearch.google.com" could just extract said docstrings, then use normal methods for ranking plain text files.

      BTW, your nym is a reference to Children's BBC?

    11. Re:Bad title by The+boojum · · Score: 3, Informative

      Don't forget that there's already Google Linux and Google BSD. Not quite what you're asking for, but a little closer.

      And Google Labs has Google Personalized Search where you can flag open source as a topic of interest.

    12. Re:Bad title by otisaardvark · · Score: 1

      BTW, your nym is a reference to Children's BBC?

      Yes, but shhh! It probably counts as trademark dilution or something - I wouldn't want Gordon the Gopher coming after me ;-)

    13. Re:Bad title by Goeland86 · · Score: 1

      yeah, I was thinking, it'd be nice if they actually had links as to HOW TO GET STARTED CODING in OpenSource... I'm sure it'll come once there's a demand big enough for it, but it's not the first time a slashdot summary gets my hopes too high either...

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    14. Re:Bad title by downbad · · Score: 1

      Yahoo only powers the ancillary web results (read: text ads)

    15. Re:Bad title by grahamlee · · Score: 1

      I'd be more scared of the disembodied butler's hand.

    16. Re:Bad title by LordoftheWoods · · Score: 1

      There certainly doesn't seem to be a single widely-used convention for embedding documentation in C or ObjC.

      Sure there is. They're called comments. The whole automatically generated HTML API documentation movement is nice and all, but an engine to search through source code could just as easily read plain old comments.

    17. Re:Bad title by grahamlee · · Score: 1

      There's less likelihood that 'a comment' says something relevant about the code than does a conventional doc string. For instance, I've seen:

      i++; /* increment i */

      enough times to have broken a lesser man. Or even:

      goto BREAKOUT; /* kludge, kludge, glorious kludge */

      If you can tell me what information either of the above give me that the code doesn't, then you're doing better than the people who wrote the above two comments.

  3. Swell. by ColonelFubster · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    That's K-Rad.

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  4. Well done, Chris! by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Well done, Chris! You know that I voted for you.
    -russ

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    1. Re:Well done, Chris! by ghoti · · Score: 3, Funny

      I didn't know he was CowboyNeal!

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    2. Re:Well done, Chris! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Nope, they're both just obese white virgins.

      CowboyNeal (likely in search of food):

      He really is this fat

      Chris DiBona (posing for homoerotic photography):

      Posing for the magazines

    3. Re:Well done, Chris! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shit. I think those two pictures might have just turned me off /. for good.

    4. Re:Well done, Chris! by DAE51D · · Score: 0

      I for one welcome Chris as my new overlord and master... ;-) (})

    5. Re:Well done, Chris! by chrisd · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thanks Russ!

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    6. Re:Well done, Chris! by doofusclam · · Score: 1

      My God those pictures put this place into perspective a bit :D

    7. Re:Well done, Chris! by Kraken137 · · Score: 1

      I sure do want to thank you for saturating my connection. No, really. I appreciate it.

  5. Nice by M.C.+Hampster · · Score: 5, Informative

    It looks like rather than try to reinvent the wheel, they are utilizing SourceForge for hosting their code. It's nice to see that they aren't suffering from "Not Invented Here" syndrome.

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    1. Re:Nice by The+Bungi · · Score: 2, Funny
      Interesting everything is released under the BSD license instead of the GPL.

      I guess they can expect a nastygram from Stallman any day now.

    2. Re:Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To paraphrase Tom from Family guy: "Thank you M.C. Hampster for that incredibly irrelevant comment."

    3. Re:Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I found it funny that M.C. Hampster was talking about reinvinting the wheel.

    4. Re:Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It's nice to see that they aren't suffering from "Not Invented Here" syndrome.

      Indeed, to convert PDFs to html in google desktop they use a pdftohtml.exe which comes from http://pdftohtml.sourceforge.net/. Let me guess what other desktop search engines will do....reinvent the wheel?

    5. Re:Nice by rtb61 · · Score: 1
      It is their code so they can release it under any licence they like, I fail to see the significance. I also don't have a problem with closed source proprietary code running on top of an open source operating system (an open source operating system is really all about creating a level playing field, where everybody can work, play and compete togethor not really suited to a BSD style licence as history has proven).

      That they release their code I feel is a repayment to the community that supports them, I gave them a suggestion and was a little suprised when they patented it, but anything is far prefferable to M$ taking over and corrupting the search engine space (to me they would be like those crap eastern europeon fake search engines that I wanted to block from my search results ;-)).

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    6. Re:Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I gave them a suggestion and was a little suprised when they patented it
      B,b,b,but I thought MS had the monopoly on patenting other peoples ideas?
    7. Re:Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think they made the right choice. Had they excluded proprietary software developers by using the GPL, the size of their developer base would have been severely "stunted."

    8. Re:Nice by millette · · Score: 1

      You can _use_ GPL, BSD and proprietary software together on the same system, you know. And even more so when you are not distributing.

  6. code.google.com FAQ by e03179 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google Code FAQ: http://code.google.com/faq.html/

    Code.google.com is our site for external developers interested in Google-related development. It's where we'll publish free source code and lists of our API services. A lot of people worked together to both prepare source code for release and prepare code.google.com for launch and ongoing maintenance. We really care about free and open source software (F/OSS) at Google, and this site is one aspect of that affection.

    Read the rest of the FAQ: http://code.google.com/faq.html/

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    1. Re:code.google.com FAQ by Infinityis · · Score: 3, Informative
    2. Re:code.google.com FAQ by filmmaker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The cultural significance of Google's position on F/OSS software is their ace in the hole against Yahoo and MSN. That's not to say the technology needs a hidden ace, but only that the geek appeal toward Google will remain strong if they continue to "don't be evil," the highest manifestation of that being their willingness to share code.

    3. Re:code.google.com FAQ by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

      Thanks, man.
      The threat of Google getting /.ed was severe, but surely you have pulled us back from the knife edge of the cusp of the precipice. ;)

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    4. Re:code.google.com FAQ by diegocgteleline.es · · Score: 1

      Even more, releasing their code not only won't hurt them, it will actually help them. Google's revenue comes from ads not from selling software, sharing the code means other people can improve and help to maintain it.

    5. Re:code.google.com FAQ by filmmaker · · Score: 1

      Exactly. I had thought of noting that. IBM has the same advantage. I really believe it's the paradigm of the future. Heck, present, depending on who you are.

    6. Re:code.google.com FAQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would anybody in their right mind maintain code for companies that feed the software patent system? Wouldn't that be the act of a total fucking moron?

  7. the editor Chris? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Was Chris the editor who politicized everything and got the boot?

    1. Re:the editor Chris? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that was michael. Wait, he's still here.

    2. Re:the editor Chris? by stupidfoo · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, that was Michael Sims who seems to be just a total douche bag wherever he goes (read the link for more info on his immature tirade at censorware.org).

    3. Re:the editor Chris? by winkydink · · Score: 1

      You're right. After reading that, he certainly sounds like a douchbag to me. They should of just hired some muscle for a couple hundred bucks to kick the shit out of him. Amazing what that will do to arrogance.

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    4. Re:the editor Chris? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      > They should of just hired some muscle for a couple hundred bucks to kick the shit out of him.

      No, they should have sued him. Even a small claims judge can issue an injunction, and if he violated it, he'd have gone to jail.

    5. Re:the editor Chris? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They shoul have held a Phil Katz / Michael deathmatch. The perfect thing in this post-Columbine world.

  8. Sourceforge by aftk2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    When I first read the article blurb, I thought it meant Google was announcing some sort of source code repository, like SourceForge. Instead, it's a listing of their various open source projects.

    That's cool, certainly, but nothing terribly exciting. Isn't this stuff that's already been floating around on the Google website? Or is this a quick-and-dirty attempt to match developer.yahoo.com, which still looks to be more capable.

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    1. Re:Sourceforge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      coredumper: Gives you the ability to dump cores from programs when it was previously not possible.

      That's pretty much the opposite of the problem I usually have.

    2. Re:Sourceforge by 14erCleaner · · Score: 1

      My first thought was that it was something like geek code.

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    3. Re:Sourceforge by ThJ · · Score: 1

      Ditto! Brain did as follows:

      Geek code? Nah. Too corny for Google.
      FreshMeat replacement? Maybe? Google has been accused of being evil lately.
      Site for code Google made? Sounds plausible.
      *reads more*
      Ah, code that Google endorses *and* code they made themselves.

    4. Re:Sourceforge by Repton · · Score: 1

      Another of those important innovations that Microsoft has pioneered...

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    5. Re:Sourceforge by Syre · · Score: 1
      It's not exciting. They don't seem to have put much into this release.
      For example, the only description of google-goopy is
      Python functions that Googlers have found useful.
      No docs, no forum, no nothing but the files.
      Not much effort going into this on Google's part so far.

  9. Up next by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google googles google google. Google!

    1. Re:Up next by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Close... Up next on Slashdot!
      • Apple!
      • Google!
      • Google!
      • Apple!
      • Google! (dupe)
      • Anime!
      • iPod/Google integration!
      • Googling anime! (dupe)
      • Microsoft announces minor security hole, Slashdot predicts end of the Internets!
    2. Re:Up next by vasqzr · · Score: 0, Redundant


      Yea, when does Google get its own category and icon?

    3. Re:Up next by hachete · · Score: 1

      film at 11

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    4. Re:Up next by arbour42 · · Score: 1

      God, the guys at Slashdot must own load of Google stock, the way they keep pimping this company.

      Trying to make up for all you lost in the dot-com crash?

    5. Re:Up next by bcattwoo · · Score: 1
      You forgot:

      **IA sucks donkey balls!

    6. Re:Up next by D4MO · · Score: 1

      should that be "??IA" or "*IA" ?

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    7. Re:Up next by Jim_Callahan · · Score: 1

      99.9999% of dupes left out for brevity.

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  10. Google by Enjoi · · Score: 3, Funny

    What next?

    Google Personals?
    Google Quotes Database?
    Google Car Insurance?

    1. Re:Google by RangerRick98 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Google Car Insurance?

      Google can help you search billions of pages on the Internet, but it won't save you any money on car insurance.

      Geico.

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    2. Re:Google by doc_holliday814 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'd like to see Google IM.

    3. Re:Google by inject_hotmail.com · · Score: 1

      What next?

      I say GoogleHome (R).

      For everything you do and need in life, google will be there (C).

      Remember, you heard it here first.

      Inject

    4. Re:Google by MightyMartian · · Score: 1
      Google Escort Service

      Google Hitman

      Google Interstellar Travel Booking

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    5. Re:Google by Patrick+Mannion · · Score: 1

      Google Surfer, surf the web, Google-style
      Gnix, Google + Unix = Gnix!
      Bell Google, Google on your phone
      Google.net, Google connects
      GoogleCities, Host yourself with Google
      Google Airlines, Fly away with Google
      Google Playsphere, games with the power of Google!

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    6. Re:Google by FecesFlingingRhesus · · Score: 1



      You all joke but don't trust them god damnit don't trust them they are out to take over the world.

    7. Re:Google by Quixote · · Score: 1

      So you're the one who's been submitting all these Google stories!

    8. Re:Google by denis-The-menace · · Score: 1

      GoogleGasm (google for pr0n, competition to http://booble.com/)

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    9. Re:Google by ogonek · · Score: 1

      It's so obvious, Google Porn.

      Google registered googleporn.com and now they're moving into the porn business.

    10. Re:Google by Infinityis · · Score: 1

      Google Car Insurance? I can just see it now...

      Employee: Well, I searched for it like you asked on Google, but there were no matching results. But I have some good news...

      Boss: What's that?

      Employee: I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to Google.

    11. Re:Google by inio · · Score: 1
      Google Personals?
      You mean Orkut?
    12. Re:Google by Enjoi · · Score: 1

      in affiliation with Google

      Affiliated. Not owned by. Yet.

    13. Re:Google by wackywendell · · Score: 1
      In other news, slashdot announces new moderation level. '-1 Only funny the first time you hear it'

      Shoot, that's me, isn't it?

    14. Re:Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Google Porn

      They could call it gspot.

    15. Re:Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Affiliated. Not owned by. Yet.

      Or ever, judging by the way it's gone. It's slow, crashy, and full of nasty evil racist types. Google has largely been adding community through blogspot and hello.com (the latter facilitating picture sharing through picasa, though it's snuck IM in through the backdoor). Anything interesting orkut comes up with is likely to just be ported there.

    16. Re:Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude take a chill pill . Provide more proof than "they are too nice".

    17. Re:Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google Escort Service
      Google Hitman
      Google Interstellar Travel Booking


      That's good, but you're not thinking big enough yet.

      Gentlemen, I give you:
      The Google Interstellar Hitman Travel Booking Escort Service!

      Perfect for the interstellar traveler who wishes to be killed by a beautiful escort whilst on a business trip!

      We do it all! We book the trip, provide the escort and even dispose of the body! All at low, low, rock bottom prices! Check out the Google Interstellar Hitman Travel Booking Escort Service today!


      Hmm... I've got to get out of marketing...
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    18. Re:Google by generic-man · · Score: 1

      Orkut was created by (and named after) a Google employee. Therefore, if Orkut's employment agreement is enforceable, Google does own the Orkut site.

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    19. Re:Google by pinkocommie · · Score: 1

      Google Personals
      Dont they already have that?

    20. Re:Google by nzlemming · · Score: 1

      I thought they already had that with Google Images? Or is that just me?

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    21. Re:Google by SEE · · Score: 1

      "At Google Insurance, we don't just give you our price, we include quotes from our leading 15,371 competitors."

    22. Re:Google by FecesFlingingRhesus · · Score: 1

      They are goint to get you

  11. Google and 20% time by nathan+s · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the FAQ:

    You may have heard about 20% time, in which Google engineers are encouraged to work on a personal project one day out of the week. Open Source interests a lot of Google developers, so we thought taking advantage of this program was a good way to prepare code for release and maintenance.

    People at Google keep saying that they get ~20% time to work on personal projects. I'm curious about a couple of things here.

    • Does this 20% time come out of the normal 40hr/week thing (and for that matter, do these engineers work 40/week or are they doing 100/week and get 20% time out of that)?
    • Does Google or the developer own intellectual property developed out of that 20% time?
    1. Re:Google and 20% time by Dracolytch · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm not sure about the first question, but the answer to the second question is easy: Google.

      They're paying you to develop ideas, they may be your ideas, but you're using company time and resources to create them (ie: you're being paid to generate the ideas AND they're financing the initial development effort), so the ideas are their property.

      I'm sure someone can come up with some philosophical way around this, but if it ever went to court, the case would prolly be over pretty quick.

      ~D

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    2. Re:Google and 20% time by nathan+s · · Score: 1

      That's my suspicion as well.

      In that case, though, who would ever want to work on personal projects there? I know I certainly wouldn't. I value my own ideas (rightly so or not) too much to throw them away for the benefit of some mega-corporation that already owns too much of my time. I make it a strict point never to work on personal things at work, and never to sign contracts giving away my off-time IP.

      Maybe there is a reason to want to work on personal stuff for a corporation, but I honestly can't think of one offhand.

      Then again, maybe Google is letting their engineers keep their IP, in which case this rant is pointless:-)

    3. Re:Google and 20% time by digidave · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Does this 20% time come out of the normal 40hr/week thing (and for that matter, do these engineers work 40/week or are they doing 100/week and get 20% time out of that)?"

      It's one day a week, so that's 20% of working days, not hours.

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    4. Re:Google and 20% time by arkanes · · Score: 4, Informative

      As I understand it, it's one day a week and Google owns the IP. It's basically like free play in kindergarden.

    5. Re:Google and 20% time by temojen · · Score: 1

      That's probably why they're BSD licensed. I prefer the GPL or LGPL for my personal projects, but then I don't work at google (or make many projects that would be of interest to anyone but me).

    6. Re:Google and 20% time by caluml · · Score: 1
      Does this 20% time come out of the normal 40hr/week thing (and for that matter, do these engineers work 40/week or are they doing 100/week and get 20% time out of that)?

      I assume it's one day a week. And it's "their own projects", so I assume Google don't own them. It's to keep their creative minds bubbling away.
      Mind you, that's an awful lot of assumptions I've just made.

    7. Re:Google and 20% time by swillden · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In that case, though, who would ever want to work on personal projects there? I know I certainly wouldn't.

      I think you're missing the point of these personal projects. The point is to allow employees some freedom in what they do for the company, not to pay them to work on their hobbies. Google's goal is to allow the employees freedom to explore interesting ideas in the hope that some of those ideas may ultimately turn into things that will make money for Google. All of the work in question is on Google time, and belongs to Google, the only difference is that one day per week the employees get to pick what they want to work on rather than just doing what they're told.

      This is a scaled-back version of the approach taken by the best pure R&D labs: Hire very smart people and then don't give them any specific assignments beyond "Do something new and interesting."

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    8. Re:Google and 20% time by richardtallent · · Score: 2, Interesting

      While generally I would agree, the situation here is that the "mega-corporation" is letting you use 20% of *their* paid-for time to be a part of the R&D that interests you.

      "Personal stuff" for me also includes photography, music, politics, blogging, etc. While those interests would likely influence I would spend my "20%" if I worked for Google, the "personal stuff" itself remains mine.

      If you are paid as a software developer, it's not healthy career-wise to have all of your "personal stuff" also be programming as well. If you feel the need to draw lines in the sand between work tasks and personal R&D in the same field, you should consider self-employment--you'll be happier if your loyalties are not split between the job that pays you and the one you wish would do so.

      Or, go work for Google, where you can be paid to work on the cool stuff, leaving more time for family and non-programming "personal stuff" that you won't have to feel like you are hoarding from your employer.

    9. Re:Google and 20% time by Hyperspac · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is a scaled-back version of the approach taken by the best pure R&D labs: Hire very smart people and then don't give them any specific assignments beyond "Do something new and interesting."

      Given the large number of major thing discovered by pure accident . Maybe you would be better off hiring a bunch of incompetent idiots and carefully watching what happens when you tell them do something difficult.

  12. coredumper by Thrakkerzog · · Score: 5, Funny

    coredumper: Gives you the ability to dump cores from programs when it was previously not possible.

    Gee, I've always been pretty good at that!

    1. Re:coredumper by barnaclebarnes · · Score: 1

      Doesn't that come built in with Windows?

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    2. Re:coredumper by capilot · · Score: 1

      In the words of Deep Thought: The Great Hyperlobic Omni-Cognate Neutron Wrangler could talk all four legs off an Arcturan Mega-Donkey -- but only I could persuade it to go for a walk afterward."

      Google coredumper makes a core dump of a running program -- and the program keeps running.

  13. News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    In other news today on /., Google wiped its ass.

    1. Re:News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MOD THIS UP!

      What has kept this important technological breakthrough (Larry Page's filthy den finally catching up with basic hygiene) from the Slashdot-frontpage?

      Is Google not paying its "support"-fee?

  14. Slashdot author is helping run it? by Jailbrekr · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, I guess we'll be seeing alot of duplicate projects posted there.

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  15. Oh man, that's good... by SmokeHalo · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hadn't seen a Google story in a couple of days, I was starting to suffer withdrawal.

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  16. koders.com ? by ballermann · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When I read the headline I thought Wow Google copies koders.com . But no - it's just a "look people use our great API"-advertisement page.

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  17. Good to see by Sv-Manowar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Good to see apple moving more towards open source software, but has anyone worked out what happened to GoogleX (http://labs.google.com/googlex/)

    it now 404's, yet was working yesterday as a 'prototype' of what a google for mac and on other systems could look like. Obviously the labs are having a fun week.

    1. Re:Good to see by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Informative

      Slash mentioned it earlier on today here

      here is a working mirror.

      And theres also a zip available for your local running pleasure here

      Plenty of people supplied mirrors and online copies inside the comments of the article.

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    2. Re:Good to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop smoking crack, this story has nothing to do with Apple. As far as I'm concerned Apple's lawyers are reason enough to distrust any of their intentions. If you want a second reason, its people like you who put Apple into every story regardless if they are involved or not. People like you aren't selling your platform, you're spamming it.

    3. Re:Good to see by seweso · · Score: 1

      They are probably working on it, in the mean time go to http://mattgemmell.com/archives/2005/03/16/googlex

  18. Cue the Bowie Poag troll in 5,4,3,2,1... by irix · · Score: 1, Funny

    C'mon Bowie, you know that you can't resist trolling Chris DiBona. Let us know about how Google Code was all your idea until he stole it from you!

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  19. With Chris running it, they'll get 1million coders by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    It will be a massively online role coding engine the likes of which you will never seen.

    (I am from the future. I have seen it.)

  20. Commercialization to come? by manmanic · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This (along with the Yahoo API and Microsoft's promise to do the same) is good news for developers who are taking search APIs seriously.

    But who will be the first to throw open the floodgates and actuallly provide unlimited API querying at a price? Businesses (such as (plagiarism detection), (rank tracking) and (advanced alerting) are starting to be built out of this stuff, so there's obviously a genuine economy out there for the taking.

    1. Re:Commercialization to come? by markkellman · · Score: 1
      There's also Amazon's/Alexa Web Information Service search-related APIs.

      Looks like the world of paid-for-access to search APIs is gradually becoming a full-blown marketplace. Who'll be next to enter the fray?

      - Mark

  21. Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wouldn't it be easier to just send all queiries to normal google searches with the parameters "site:sourceforge.net" and "site:freshmeat.net" rather than build an entire new search system?

    1. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoops, ignore that. My bad, I misread the article.

  22. Google Browser? by qwiki · · Score: 1

    And on AYM Network it was noted that if you view the organizations that Google is taking part in, Mozilla is right there at #2. Google Browser anyone? It's been rumored before.

    1. Re:Google Browser? by *weasel · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      What's google need a browser for?

      They're already all pointed to their servers anyway. Why bother getting involved in platform wars when you've already won?

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  23. Interesting observation. by topside420 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Nice to see the three open source projects linked on the right are all projects that list chrisd as a developer.

    What a coincidence!

    1. Re:Interesting observation. by chrisd · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's because I want to see how things go in all the projects. Believe me when I tell you that it's not the Chris DiBona show. No one would watch... Chris DiBona

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    2. Re:Interesting observation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lowest. UID. Ever.

  24. Re:In other News! by thirteenVA · · Score: 4, Funny

    In other news, slashdot announces new moderation level. '-1 Only funny the first time you hear it'

  25. Google Too by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Using the Google API is the best way to encourage its growth. The more apps that use it, the more those apps become "Google" - and the more Google will grow itself by growing its web services.

    However, hosting all those Google API apps solely on Google is a bad move. Too many eggs in one basket. Better to host them on both Google AND Freshmeat/SourceForge. In fact, one great Google API app would be an automirror. Hosting at one is automirrored at the other. Which has immediate benefits in load balancing and uptime (no single point of failure). And longterm benefits of keeping the code free of capricious corporate decisions down the road

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    1. Re:Google Too by Stradenko · · Score: 1

      Pay attention, They're hosted on sf.net for now.

      http://code.google.com/projects.html

    2. Re:Google Too by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      You pay attention: it's the single host that makes it dangerous.

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    3. Re:Google Too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think google knows a thing or two about mirroring, caching, and load balancing, dude. Single point of failure, yeah. "If all 50 hojillion of google's servers go down at once, we're screwed!" ... me I'll be heading to the basement before the fireball gets to me.

    4. Re:Google Too by Stradenko · · Score: 1

      What's more dangerous about google's projects hosted at sf.net and *every other* project hosted there?

    5. Re:Google Too by slavemowgli · · Score: 1

      Freshmeat does not host things (outside of themes) - it only collects announcements.

      That being said, I doubt that a server farm like Google's can be called a "single point of failure", too. :) When was the last time http://www.google.com/ didn't work for you?

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    6. Re:Google Too by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Anonymous dudespeaking Coward, the single point of failure here runs through Google's CIO or CTO, not their servers. The danger is a Google policy change that cuts off these projects from the API on which they depend. It's not too early for you to head to the basement.

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    7. Re:Google Too by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      The other projects aren't all dependent on a single vendor's API, in the only repository for them. That's an administrative single point of failure. Open source projects need more diversity in dependencies to ensure their already tenouos grip on perpetuation.

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    8. Re:Google Too by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      The failure point is Google's API policy, not their servers. More external projects, with users, dependent on Google APIs, makes it harder for Google to change that policy. The whole system living under Google's policy control makes it easier for them to shut it all off.

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  26. Re:In other News! by Liselle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I remember complaining for months that /. didn't even have an icon for Google. Now I wish they'd make google.slashdot.org and get this stuff off the front page. Maybe take the place of Apache, which has had a grand total of one article in all of 2005.

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  27. Could code a zombie checker? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Given the article today about zombies http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/03/17/1551255.shtml?t id=172&tid=220 ..it would be interesting if an online zombie checker could be linked into google code. Create a passive system scan and you can bet alot of users would try it.

  28. Good Show! by polyp2000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is great that Google are visibly supporting the development of open source software - to whatever degree.

    The ubiquity of google and the respect they have gained over the years make them somewhat of a model company. While im sure there may be a couple of people who might dispute their company motto to "not be evil" I think most people would agree that google seems to be doing things the right way.

    Google is well thought of by anyone who uses the web, not just geeks, but the PHB's and Grandma's alike. This brings me to the next point...

    Google have got Microsoft worried - frustrated that they couldnt "own" google they paid google the greatest compliment- they redesigned their search engine that is functionally more than just similar to google - and to a certain extent the low graphic - no-frills feel!

    It is interesting to see Google innovating and re-thinking many of the ways we use the web. Now that google are being visibly more active in open source - It couldnt be better press for F/OSS at this time - and damn that's really going to p*ss Microsoft off - I'd like to see them match this idea. In addition to this its certainly going to help to legitimise F/OSS to those PHB's who have been toying with the idea but afraid to test the water.

    Its going to be extremely interesting to see what google has deep in the bowels of its R&D department waiting to come into fruition. Lets hope that they can keep their face clean in the process!

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    1. Re:Good Show! by SpiffyMarc · · Score: 2, Informative

      damn that's really going to p*ss Microsoft off - I'd like to see them match this idea.

      Microsoft has several open source projects on SourceForge, and in the past has hosted sites like GotDotNet that allowed users to share libraries with one another. Microsoft developers would also post libraries they had written and allow other developers to see and use the code.

    2. Re:Good Show! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Microsoft has several "open source" projects on SourceForge,

      Oh, sure I am aware of these projects although you should really take a good look at the licensing arrangements on these things.... Dont expect to be porting any of these applications to linux, dont for a moment think you have any rights to do anything with the source code to call your own. These project only just qualify as being Open Source - I prefer not to dilute the term "Open Source" call them by their proper name "Shared Source"

  29. Re:In other News! by dokkeri · · Score: 1, Funny

    So would this site only contain porn or something else too?

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  30. My favorite is perftools by GoogleGuy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You can see code that Google is opening up here. My favorite is the perftools code because it helps with things like heap profiling. Very handy stuff, and it's hosted with Sourceforge. I'm pretty sure these four projects were just added in the last day or so.

    1. Re:My favorite is perftools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If google were using Solaris 10, they would have been able to use DTrace ;-)

  31. what's his job? by b17bmbr · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    open source gadfly?

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  32. the code just doesn't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i downloaded their hashmap implementations, but when i type "use Google::Hashmap" i get some module not found error!

    am i doing something wrong? ;)

  33. Please Explain. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this mean a Sourceforge that doesn't suck?

    Does it mean a Sourceforge that you can actually search?

    1. Re:Please Explain. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try reading the article and/or every comment posted about it, then ask your stupid question again.

  34. Opportunity by Red_Icculus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since this is for dev related to Google, this could be a great opportunity to attract lots of talent to their company. This has the opportunity to be a great thing for all parties involved.

  35. I well code for a free t-shirt by grusapa · · Score: 4, Funny

    "We're going to feature a new one every week or so and we'll send a fabulous, always fashionable, t-shirt to the maintainers as a small way of saying thank you!" anyone seen the pic. where a dud is holdig a poster that say "I well do html for food"

  36. UI by Morgahastu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why is that anything related to Open Source has to have a terrible interface? This is only google page I do not like and it looks like it skipped the UI team.

  37. Updates Blog by epohs · · Score: 3, Interesting
    http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/

    The code.google.com update blog, and an easy way to subscribe to the RSS feed with Firefox

  38. Pity, I had hoped for a specialized search by HiThere · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What I've been hoping for is a specialization of Google that would search for open source code and commentary/documentation on same.

    So many projects have names that tend to return a lot of unrelated links when doing a search, it would be nice is there were a categorized search similar to that which they've created for Linux (NICE! Helps significantly. I've given it a browser link on my toolbar.).

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    1. Re:Pity, I had hoped for a specialized search by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:Pity, I had hoped for a specialized search by HiThere · · Score: 1

      http://koders.com/

      My first test: ruby ada
      rates that site as a total flop. Google returns a bunch of noise with a few good hits. koders.com returns nothing relevant. Relevant to Ruby, yes, and possibly relevant to ada on some later pages, but nothing on the first page relevant to both.

      Google performs better, even with the noise level.

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      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  39. All I can say is "wow." by lynx_user_abroad · · Score: 1
    So what happens where some future software patent holder slaps Google with a C&D order against a piece of Free Software implementing a patent-infringing technology and suddenly no one can download the source to that package. At that point, I'll bet no one even knows how to work on free software without a central database as a repository.

    Come to think of it, isn't SourceForge vulnerable to the same sort of Blitzkrieg?

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  40. Modest Proposal for Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    We are all familiar with the indisputable benefits of open source. At this point, anyone who's still hung up on the lack of solid statistical evidence to support this obvious truth just doesn't get it.

    There can also be no doubt that Google is a true believer (rather than simply trying to exploit the goodwill of the OSS community). Therefore, I propose that Google open source its search algorithms. Millions of eyeballs helping to improve the system: fixing bugs, adding features, increasing performance...what could be better!

    I'm sure once Google gets wind of this idea, they will begin implementing it immediately. Do you want me to call them or do one of you guys want to do it?

    1. Re:Modest Proposal for Google by lanced · · Score: 1, Funny
      Millions of eyeballs helping to improve the system:
      Think about that for a second, imagine that world:
      fixing bugs,
      I really hate it when I search for Gandalf and google gives me back goatse.
      adding features,
      Yeah, because I don't use google for everything already, like spell checking this psot.
      increasing performance...
      That half second is just killing me. I need my pr0n and google whacking results back in nanoseconds.
      what could be better!
      True. :)
  41. AOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for adding nothing to the conversation you AOLamer!

  42. Starting Out by kushboy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    As a general hobby of mine, I've learned the basics, mostly console, of a few languages. C++, Java, PHP, etc. I make little programs for fun, but nothing great. I really would like to get better at this stuff so I could help out Mozilla or open source projects, but it's only a hobby and I have no direction. What should I do? Should I pick one language, or learn them all slowly; what books should I buy or whatever? I just need some direction.

    1. Re:Starting Out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You have fallen under the spell of Computer Science Misconception #1. The first step is not "learn a whole bunch of languages". The language you use is no more than a tool. The important part is the process. Designing the algorithms, planning how everything will interact with everything else, this is where you need to spend your time.


      Once you understand the concepts behind everything, you will realise that all languages are pretty much the same, and you can write almost anything in almost any (real) language.

    2. Re:Starting Out by same_old_story · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I am beginning my self, and I can tell you what I am doing: dont worry too much about the language at first. after you learn to program in general, learning a new language will become more or less trivial.

      I surely recomend python. its great for beginners and you will be very productive with it.and it should give you the 'coding itch' this book is great for beginners.. stay out of C and C++ as your first language though.

      esr's how to become a hacker is the best advice I can think of.

    3. Re:Starting Out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pfft, "designing the algorithms". You've fallen under Computer Science Misconception #2, that designing new algorithms is actually important in real-life applications. The truth is that the majority of projects won't use any algorithm more elaborate than simple sorting and binary search.

    4. Re:Starting Out by platos_beard · · Score: 1

      Coming to python from some years of experience with other languages (C++ mostly), I found Dive into Python to be a fantastic intro.

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    5. Re:Starting Out by Dub+Kat · · Score: 1

      I think what's most interesting is that google released code to add functional language attributes to python.

      Functional programming doesn't get a whole lot of attention, but if the guys at google are using functional-style programming so often that they feel it deserves a release on sourceforge, doesn't that make you wonder what you're missing in the land of procedural or object-oriented programming?

      LISP might be the first functional language (among many other firsts) and has been around since the beginning of time (okay... the 1960's ;)

      From esr's "how to become a hacker":

      "LISP is worth learning for a different reason -- the profound enlightenment experience you will have when you finally get it. That experience will make you a better programmer for the rest of your days, even if you never actually use LISP itself a lot."

  43. GoogleOS mabye? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just a thought.

  44. Uh oh indeed! by Seoulstriker · · Score: 4, Funny
    Registrant:
    Google Inc. (DOM-258879)
    2400 E. Bayshore Pkwy Mountain View CA 94043 US

    Domain Name: googledot.org

    Registrar Name: Alldomains.com
    Registrar Whois: whois.alldomains.com
    Registrar Homepage: http://www.alldomains.com/

    Administrative Contact:
    DNS Admin (NIC-1340142) Google Inc.
    2400 E. Bayshore Pkwy Mountain View CA 94043 US
    dns-admin@googledot.org +1.6503300100 Fax- +1.6506181499
    Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
    DNS Admin (NIC-1340144) Google Inc.
    2400 E. Bayshore Pkwy Mountain View CA 94043 US
    dns-admin@googledot.org +1.6503300100 Fax- +1.6506181499

    Created on..............: 2005-Mar-15.
    Expires on..............: 2019-Sep-14.
    Record last updated on..: 2005-Mar-17 10:42:46.

    Domain servers in listed order:

    NS3.GOOGLEDOT.ORG 216.239.36.10
    NS4.GOOGLEDOT.ORG 216.239.38.10
    NS1.GOOGLEDOT.ORG 216.239.32.10
    NS2.GOOGLEDOT.ORG 216.239.34.10


    Uh oh...
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    1. Re:Uh oh indeed! by stg · · Score: 1

      Funnily enough, there is a googledot.com registered!

      Domain name: googledot.com

      Administrative Contact:
      Domain Investors
      Domain Names (bell@bell.biz)

      skipping other details... (whois it yourself if you want them)

      Creation date: 31 Jan 2003 11:51:24
      Expiration date: 31 Jan 2009 11:51:24

      The web site is just one of those generic parked domain pages, though.

    2. Re:Uh oh indeed! by tonsofpcs · · Score: 1

      The site http://googledot.org/ reads: Googledot! News about google. Stuff that googles.

    3. Re:Uh oh indeed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not anymore it isn't :) I made up a little page for it.

  45. Slashdotted already by adavidm · · Score: 1

    Just kidding!

  46. MOD PARENT UP!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MOD PARENT UP!!! Google is teh taking ovar liek teh borg!!!11

  47. With all the great things google is doing lately.. by lupinstel · · Score: 0

    With all the great projects google is creating lately, I can't wait until they create their own search engine. That would be radical!

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  48. In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CmdrTaco and the rest of the /. editors have been made the bitch of Google.

    or

    [Google] all your /. are belong to us.

  49. Did he... by Snorpus · · Score: 1
    ...learn grammar while at SlashDot?

    Hashtables that use memory the way you want them too.

  50. slashdotted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hah! fooled you! not f$£king likely. More bandwidth than god.

  51. Not invented here by Qwavel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Several people have commented that it is nice to see Google using an existing code site (sf) rather than create their own.

    I'm also glad to see that they are using an existing and respected license (BSD 2.0) rather than invent their own. The other big companies (eg. Sun, MS) always have to create their own pseudo-FLOSS licenses when they release code, with their own little catches and gotchas.

    1. Re:Not invented here by Jim_Callahan · · Score: 1

      Aye, it's almost like they're actual engineers (read: lazy, and damned good at being lazy). I wasn't aware that the software industry had those.

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  52. Yay by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    and I anounce my new Russ Key FireFox extension that allows users to type in TextArea and Text HTML fields in phonetic Russian and translate 'translit' (Russian typed in English letters) into Cyrillic.

    I feel so small and insignificant :/

    1. Re:Yay by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Russ Key - strange, I don't remember prefixing the domain with 'www'.

  53. All kidding aside though.... by lucason · · Score: 1

    Google's "no evil" policy is really leading to some kind of "no evil"-empire.

    I just wonder how much longer they can keep fighting the urge to declare world domination.

    Absolute power will corrupt absolutly. Just a matter of time. Not that I mind.

    At least its a step up from Bill.

  54. koders.com by jparp · · Score: 1

    koders.com attempts to be exactly what you describe.

    1. Re:koders.com by otisaardvark · · Score: 1

      Thanks, that's fantastic!

      Although it could do with some severe usability improvements - why can't I select searches in more than one language or license at a time? Have sent them feedback.

      bugzilla.mozilla.org (no links from /. allowed) also has excellent code search ideas WITHIN products, some of which may be amenable to switching between products.

  55. Re:In other News! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In other news, slashdot announces new moderation level. '-1 Only funny the first time you hear it'

    (Sorry, the irony was too much to resist!)

  56. Re:In other News! by Thud457 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    It was a sad day when SCO eclipsed the ::cue::cat stories !

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  57. Re:In other News! by Nahor · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apache, which has had a grand total of one article in all of 2005.

    What? You mean there was no dupe for Apache yet?
    Shit editors, what are you doing!?!

  58. Going Google by WaldoXX · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Coming SOON google girls, google houses, google gear, google this, google that... world domination!!! muhaHAHAHAH

    1. Re:Going Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't they call their store "google gear"?

  59. Sweet! Bringing Slashcode skilz to Google! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Now watch what happens when you put '1337 h4xx0r on g00g!!111

    WTF??!!111

  60. What I'd Like to See by JMPrice · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm pretty hooked on the Picasa photo organizer from Picasa. It's only missing one thing: an extension to upload photos to your Flickr account.

    I'd like to see some work done on this.

  61. search for "While(i){" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    returned 250000 hits. Thanks.

  62. Re:In other News! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    google, thankful for all the free publicity it gets on slashdot, is planning to launch slashdot.google.org...

  63. For one thing, they'll have a site search that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    isn't the lamest piece of crap on the planet (unlike other dot.org sites we could mention).

  64. ToS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do they reserve the right to insert adds in your code?

  65. Re:In other News! by googisgod · · Score: 2, Funny
    there's already at least one site that is absolutely nothing but google news, every day:

    http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/

    maybe not the type of news they'd like, tho. :-)

  66. Yellow Stickies by hawk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I believe that it is/was 3 hours/week at 3M.

    An engineer wanted something to mark pages in choir books at church. He found an adhesive that they'd previously dismissed as too weak to be useful, diluted it further, and now we don't have to paint our monitors and walls . . .

    hawk

  67. Simon says... by sinfree · · Score: 0

    How long until code.yahoo.com?

  68. Re:Google Hitman by Pantheraleo2k3 · · Score: 1
  69. Re:Search interface to source code repositories by Lenbok · · Score: 1

    http://www.koders.com/ is what you want.

  70. Uh Oh, Another DiBona Project by Jack+Auf · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why is it that people think this guy is great? He typically does NOT do a good or even acceptable job on anything he manages.

    Chris DiBona is *the* guy that single-handedly killed themes.org.

    For those of you who have not been around long enough to remember themes.org it was a wonderful, one-stop-shop for themes for everything. Until Chris took over that is, and then it went into a year and a half long dormant period where no updates were allowed by themers, only to eventually be folded into freshmeat when it was apparent that Chris was never going to deliver.

    How the hell did he ever get hired by Google?

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    1. Re:Uh Oh, Another DiBona Project by babbage · · Score: 1

      ...surely it can't have anything to do with a collective realization that software themes and skins are a STUPID STUPID STUPID idea, can it?

      I mean, okay, maybe DiBona mismanaged the site -- I visited it once or twice, but mainly in horror at the very idea -- but then maybe it deserved to die.

      Maybe Google hired him because they figured that scuttling Themes.org was doing the world a favor...

  71. Bad wannabe! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    No biscuit.

    C is a wonderful first language, because it shows you all the annoying things that high-level languages take care of for you. Furthermore the standard library is relatively small, meaning you can get to know the entire language substantially more quickly than learning CPAN modules, Java/Python classes, or even lisp constructs (but lisp/scheme is a great second language).

    But, your first lesson as a hacker is to never listen to anything Eric S Raymond says. The man has taken shameless self-promotion to a new plateau, and the degree to which he tries to get everyone to behave like him is astounding. He says some correct things, but on the whole it's better to avoid Eric Raymond's influence.

  72. but the real question is... by saladami · · Score: 1

    Will it find the code I need for my CS homework?

    Google already does most other kinds of homework. But when I try to use it for a programming project it usually sucks. Hopefully that's what this is for.

  73. A bit off topic but... by k-0s · · Score: 1

    Is anyone having problems with Google's Adwords? I get a connection refused whenever I try to get to it.

  74. More info available on http://slashdot.google.com by popo · · Score: 2, Funny
    hah hah hah....heh.....ehh.....

    hmm...

    ..ruh roh!

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  75. google by mattkidman · · Score: 1

    hey, Why not make google algor. open source?

  76. DON'T GIVE UP YET! by ellem · · Score: 1
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  77. Goog execs sell $500 million in GOOG stock: by googisgod · · Score: 1
    http://www.fuckedgoogle.com/

    Story breaking tonight. Absolutely amazing. Apparently investors learned absolutely nothing from the last dot.com collapse.

  78. Don't spread convoluted simplifications. by fingerfucker · · Score: 2, Informative

    An engineer wanted something to mark pages in choir books at church. He found an adhesive that they'd previously dismissed as too weak to be useful, diluted it further, and now we don't have to paint our monitors and walls . . .

    First of all, he was NOT an engineer, but a scientist. Second of all, the 3M inventor of the Post-It note, Dr. Spence Silver, was NOT looking for a way to mark pages at churg, but rather "looking for ways to improve the acrylate adhesives that 3M uses in many of its tapes". Spencer walked around for 5 years with it an wasn't able to find an application for it.

    It was Art Fry, again NOT an engineer, but a new product development researcher, who found an application for it. And only then the whole church bookmark idea came into the picutre.

    Here is a full article.

    Just because your point was that 3M had a similar approach to empowering employees to innovate, that doesn't give you the right to oversimplify and spread convoluted versions of history.

  79. Mod parent down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Inaccurate info is the pits. Makes the baby jesus cry.

  80. At least that's better than pimping up Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Google is sincere to computer scientists --- hires PhDs.
    2) Google doesn't sell by cheaty means like translucent plastics.
    3) Google doesn't promote worship --- behaves just like one of us, use sourceforge, use BSD license.

    Google's values are consistent with mine --- that's why I pimp Google. And by doing so I pimp my own values.

    Now if you still have a problem, spit it out.

  81. Google == CIA, so it's logical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CIA targets monopolization of world information
    assets via TIA. So it's only logical that they
    would seek to take over code development resources
    offered to the world. This way they can insert bugs, eliminate developers, etc. at will.

  82. [OT response] Re:code.google.com FAQ by Chalst · · Score: 1

    Are you the same Chris with whom I chatted following an LtU thread?

  83. Picasa? by chuck.kahn · · Score: 1

    I don't see Picasa on the list

  84. BSD verses GPL for Google by Morosoph · · Score: 1
    Hmm: programmer-centred freedom instead of code-centred freedom. I'd guess that they're trying to reach out to all programmers, possibly with an eye to future recruitment. As they're not directly supplying software, and they've a lot of other technology giving them an edge, the BSD license makes sense for them.

    Shame, really, for they're making heavy use of GPLed code, and to publish under the GPL would be in better reciprocal spirit (incidently promoting free software over non-free), but really, who can blame them? BSD licensed code is likely to penetrate further, and reach more programmers, even if it results in the creation of less free software.

  85. koders.com does that by debazande · · Score: 1

    koders.com does exactly that, and quite well. But we sure would enjoy the google touch on a specialized search engine like this.

  86. Re:In other News! by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

    > In other news, slashdot announces new moderation level. '-1 Only funny the first time you hear it' Which is what this post is.

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