I think one of the things I'm hearing here that is far off from the truth is that conservatives are afraid of sex. This is not the case. I very much enjoy sex... with my wife. The Bible even mentions sex often... as a good thing between a man and his wife.
The main reason conservatives are happy is that this is a good excuse to give a game that already deserved an AO rating for it's excessive cruelty and violence an AO rating. In no way should that game (with or without hot coffee) be rated M.
IMO, there is a big difference between watching a cop or a hooker get killed in a movie by the "bad guys" and actually participating. In fact, one of the main arguments for people who like GTA is that this is an "open ended" game and thus you don't have to do this stuff. But what are you going to do in the game if you are not doing something illegal? Are you going to convince a hooker that there are other ways to live? That she can get killed or STDs by being a hooker? Is there an option to rat out the other gangsters? To get a job and purchace a car? I didn't think so.
I guess that's why I'd rather see games like True Crime: NYC than GTA: SA. At least in that game you get the choice to play "good cop".
As a developer, I disagree with you. Could it be possible that R* wanted the code to be found? It would be their way of putting the code in and not taking responsibility for it. It could then up the sales of GTA to young pervs while still keeping that M rating. You don't have to be a hacker to download and install a patch.
Now I hate agreeing with Mrs. Clinton, but in this case, I'll have to swallow my pride and agree with her.
You'd have to do something other than a price cut to get me to buy an XBox game. Just the amount of fun I get playing a Nintendo game makes it worth more than an XBox title, in my opinion.
Now I know you're thinking that this is a fanboy post, but I just don't enjoy XBox games. I guess I'm more of an "E rating, but not a sports title" fanboy than a Nintendo fanboy.
I agree with you that prison is an inmate training camp, so perhaps we should come up with some other form of punishment. Public humiliation sounds like it would work.
If your Nintendo fanboyism wasn't obvious from your username, it sure is obvious now.
So I like Nintendo? But there is a reason. They make great games. Seriously. But back on the topic of girl gamers.
Let's examine selected Nintendo games to view how they appeal to women.
Mario Kart Double Dash: This game is perfect. There wide variety of players. None of them objectify women. One can play comunitivly and/or competitivly. Combine this with a fun theme and you have a great game that appeals to everyone. One doesn't have to be a fanboy to admit that Mario Kart: Double Dash is fun!
Pikmin 2: In this game, you can blow up your opponents Pikmin, throw giant boulders to squash them, etc... OR... You can work together to defeat the enemies and solve puzzles to find the keys in the 2 player co-op. Competition, and communitive gaming. You don't have to be a Nintendo fanboy to admit that this game is awesome.
Animal Crossing: What lady doesn't like Animal Crossing? It's a charming simulation that allows people to make friends in both the game world and the real world to work towards goals that happen in real time.
As for the other consoles, the only games I can think of that really appeal to women is the DDR series. It doesn't take a fanboy to figure that out.
My wife plays Nintendo games. It makes sense since Nintendo is the only company to figure out that in order to make a game fun, one must concentrate on both the communitive (female) and competitive (male) aspects of a game.
Other game companies, imo, feel that concentrating on large breasts is a priority instead of making killer gameplay that appeals to everyone.
That's Nintendo's argument, and it's a stupid one. They would say that Nethack is poorly designed because it uses like 50 keys, but I'd like to see them come up with a better way to configure the keymap for that game that drastically reduced the number of keys used.
Rob
After all the Atari Jaguar had the best controller in the world right? Nope guess not. My personal favorite is the GCN controller. It makes button mapping consistant. I don't know of any game that doesn't utilize the A button as the main button. As for the PS/XBox controller, it isn't as consistant. Some games use one button as the main input, others use a different one. Even games in the same series! (FF7 & FF8 is a good example).
Besides what other controller can you do the fast button rub trick on without a spoon?
It seems that the digital divide is going to increase with this. The people who are getting off the air broadcasts are most likely the ones who can't afford a digital television set. It seems that if ABC wants housewives to watch "their stories" then they need to put pressure on home electronics companies to lower prices on DTVs.
You won't pay $230 + taxes for a console game? That surprises me. That's the reason I don't buy PC games. For example let's say I want to play Doom 3 (which I don't, but makes for a good example). I can pay $3000 for a PC and hope it works or $200 for an XBox and be garunteed it works.
For years I've avoided PC games because they wind up costing more and having lower compatability with my hardware.
I guess if you are into Computing for the cash then it would be a big ripoff. I've always enjoy computers for computing. I know I can make more by making a good load of ad-ware, but I'd rather make something people would appreciate and have fun with it.
Because of people with the same feelings as I do, projects such as MythTV and GNU exist. I can do more with my computers now than when I was still running pirated Microsoft software. I also feel better about myself since I no longer depend on piracy to enjoy my computer.
Rich folk don't understand, but us poor folk (that is, I make $10,000 a year at Wal-Mart) appreciate ideas of giving and getting freely. Who needs riches if everybody works together?
I agree. I'm a Christian and I'm a moderate. I'm registered as a Democrat, but I'll vote for people who are closer to the middle (That is guys like John McCain and Joe Lieberman).
As for Christian beliefs and extra terrestrials, I don't think there's anyone else out there; however, the Bible does not mention that we are alone, so I wouldn't argue against it. But if there are others out there, then I would assume that they would follow the same God as we should follow. After all Christians believe that God created the whole Universe. So I wouldn't look at it as being an egotistical self-rightous holier-than-thou perspective, but a logical idea for Christians.
One of the things we often do is confuse beliefs for opinions. So in that case, it would look pretty closed minded. But when we seperate the two terms, we can see that it would be rediculous to be "open minded" if one beleives something to be true. Thus if I believe cow droppings are harmful to eat, I'm not asserting an opinion, I'm making the claim that it is true and therefore would not necessarily view something contrary to that to also be true.
But they don't have the right to put up whatever they want. Especially if they have neighbors. You see, if the town becomes ugly, then the value of their property diminishes. It's kinda like me going over to some kids house and spilling kool-aid on his super rare comic book.
Why does everybody assume that the only good games are mature games. I must say I have a bunch of game consolse, but one I don't have is the MS X-Box. Why? Because the vast majority of titles for the X-Box are mature titles.
My GBA and GC get the most use out of my collection of game consoles. The reason why Nintendo keeps cranking out those blockbuster family friendly games is because people buy 'em.
Personally I feel bad for all those gamers who have to rape a hooker to have fun in a game. Sounds pretty immature to me.
If anybody has the DVD set, there's some interesting documentry on there that shows his struggles with the big movie producers (that is FOX) and how it was a battle between his independent creativity and the wants of the studio.
In the end he's now got the big studio and calling the shots. It's as though he joined the dark side to defeat the dark side.
You mean/. has an article that views Christianity in a positive light!??? Isn't that against the rules? After all today we wake up and see how anybody who thinks that the world was intelligently designed is obviously stupid.
Anyway, I've been a fan of Christian Rock music for a long time. In fact, it was Christian Rock that proved to me that Christianity is not boring. As a kid growing up in a Non-Christian home, I thought that Christianity was all about watching a boring channel on TV listening to boring music. Then I was exposed to bands such as Audio Adrenaline, the Newsboys, and dc Talk. It really changed my perspective.
Now, as a Christian, I'm a huge fan of such bands as Disciple, Thousand Foot Krutch, and toby Mac. If you're not a Christian you should check it out anyway. I mean after all you listen to POD, don't you?
I'm thinking that the point is being missed. There are a lot of people (not all) who claim that your Marios' and Sonic type games are boring so that they look cool, but buy the games anyway. The proof is in the sales data. If you like your ultra blocky "realistic" games then good for you.
There are platformer games that I think are boring such as Crash (or any other game that sneaks a pointless endless pit of death on you every 5 seconds). So I don't buy 'em. But go over to any random person's house, and you'll see that they usually have something in there collection such as Smash Brothers or Mario Kart. Why blow $20-$50 on something that is just not "sophisticated enough"and grownup enough? Why blow money on both Zeldas if you don't like 'em?
I very much prefer a real racing _simulation_, like Gran Turismo.
If I want to blow things to bits, I load a proper strategy game. E.g., "Rome: Total War".
When I was a kid. I never understood why grownups stopped watching cartoons. I still think they're a hoot. I never wanted to grow up to be some boring fella who could only find enjoyment in boringness. I don't know, but I'd rather fight the evil Dr. Robotnik than yawn through some ultra-realistic game with super grainy or horribly polygonated graphics. (Not that I'm saying E rated games are not polygonated, I'm saying that if the game is suppose to look realistic, it doesn't).
Who wants to sneak around with a square head with a "Realistic" face painted on? Who wants to fall asleep while playing a game with a depressing and slow storyline? I sure don't. Kiddy or not, I have fun.
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I'm so... tired of the cheap shots at Nintendo. They are the... ones that are making money. Q2 of FY 2003 was the only full quarter loss Nintendo reported in 50 years, and everyone predicts their doom. The XBOX has one profitable quarter after eleven straight losses, and everyone calls them a success.
I think people take cheap shots at them because they don't want to admit that "kiddy games" such as Zelda: Wind Waker and Mario Sunshine are a lot more fun to play than those hack and slash "grownup" games.
I'm 23 years old and most of my games are E rated. Some are T rated. None are M rated. M rated games just aren't very fun. My buddies tease me about it, but who isn't having fun playing Mario Kart or Mario Party? Who doesn't like to drop a bomb bug on their enemies pikmin and blow 'em to bits? Who doesn't think the storyline to Windwaker is interesting?
I don't know. As a taxpayer, I wouldn't want to be paying for pornography. As any slashdotter would know, bandwidth costs money. In addition to that, I wouldn't want to pass a laptop that has pornography displayed on it.
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This isn't new news, but maybe someone from the /. crowd would be able to figure this out.
I think one of the things I'm hearing here that is far off from the truth is that conservatives are afraid of sex. This is not the case. I very much enjoy sex... with my wife. The Bible even mentions sex often... as a good thing between a man and his wife.
The main reason conservatives are happy is that this is a good excuse to give a game that already deserved an AO rating for it's excessive cruelty and violence an AO rating. In no way should that game (with or without hot coffee) be rated M.
IMO, there is a big difference between watching a cop or a hooker get killed in a movie by the "bad guys" and actually participating. In fact, one of the main arguments for people who like GTA is that this is an "open ended" game and thus you don't have to do this stuff. But what are you going to do in the game if you are not doing something illegal? Are you going to convince a hooker that there are other ways to live? That she can get killed or STDs by being a hooker? Is there an option to rat out the other gangsters? To get a job and purchace a car? I didn't think so.
I guess that's why I'd rather see games like True Crime: NYC than GTA: SA. At least in that game you get the choice to play "good cop".
Did not Jesus say "Take the plank out of your own eye before commenting on the spec in your bother's. This way, you can see clearly."?
As a developer, I disagree with you. Could it be possible that R* wanted the code to be found? It would be their way of putting the code in and not taking responsibility for it. It could then up the sales of GTA to young pervs while still keeping that M rating. You don't have to be a hacker to download and install a patch.
Now I hate agreeing with Mrs. Clinton, but in this case, I'll have to swallow my pride and agree with her.
You'd have to do something other than a price cut to get me to buy an XBox game. Just the amount of fun I get playing a Nintendo game makes it worth more than an XBox title, in my opinion. Now I know you're thinking that this is a fanboy post, but I just don't enjoy XBox games. I guess I'm more of an "E rating, but not a sports title" fanboy than a Nintendo fanboy.
Time? He said it only took a week to make.
I agree with you that prison is an inmate training camp, so perhaps we should come up with some other form of punishment. Public humiliation sounds like it would work.
I think if a kid is capable of commiting a crime knowingly, then he should face the same punishment as an adult.
I think a lot of kids commit crimes with the "knowledge" that if they get caught, it would be a slap on the wrist and go away when they turn 18.
If your Nintendo fanboyism wasn't obvious from your username, it sure is obvious now.
So I like Nintendo? But there is a reason. They make great games. Seriously. But back on the topic of girl gamers.
Let's examine selected Nintendo games to view how they appeal to women.
Mario Kart Double Dash: This game is perfect. There wide variety of players. None of them objectify women. One can play comunitivly and/or competitivly. Combine this with a fun theme and you have a great game that appeals to everyone. One doesn't have to be a fanboy to admit that Mario Kart: Double Dash is fun!
Pikmin 2: In this game, you can blow up your opponents Pikmin, throw giant boulders to squash them, etc... OR... You can work together to defeat the enemies and solve puzzles to find the keys in the 2 player co-op. Competition, and communitive gaming. You don't have to be a Nintendo fanboy to admit that this game is awesome.
Animal Crossing: What lady doesn't like Animal Crossing? It's a charming simulation that allows people to make friends in both the game world and the real world to work towards goals that happen in real time.
As for the other consoles, the only games I can think of that really appeal to women is the DDR series. It doesn't take a fanboy to figure that out.
My wife plays Nintendo games. It makes sense since Nintendo is the only company to figure out that in order to make a game fun, one must concentrate on both the communitive (female) and competitive (male) aspects of a game.
Other game companies, imo, feel that concentrating on large breasts is a priority instead of making killer gameplay that appeals to everyone.
That's Nintendo's argument, and it's a stupid one. They would say that Nethack is poorly designed because it uses like 50 keys, but I'd like to see them come up with a better way to configure the keymap for that game that drastically reduced the number of keys used. Rob After all the Atari Jaguar had the best controller in the world right? Nope guess not. My personal favorite is the GCN controller. It makes button mapping consistant. I don't know of any game that doesn't utilize the A button as the main button. As for the PS/XBox controller, it isn't as consistant. Some games use one button as the main input, others use a different one. Even games in the same series! (FF7 & FF8 is a good example). Besides what other controller can you do the fast button rub trick on without a spoon?
It seems that the digital divide is going to increase with this. The people who are getting off the air broadcasts are most likely the ones who can't afford a digital television set. It seems that if ABC wants housewives to watch "their stories" then they need to put pressure on home electronics companies to lower prices on DTVs.
For years I've avoided PC games because they wind up costing more and having lower compatability with my hardware.
Because of people with the same feelings as I do, projects such as MythTV and GNU exist. I can do more with my computers now than when I was still running pirated Microsoft software. I also feel better about myself since I no longer depend on piracy to enjoy my computer.
Rich folk don't understand, but us poor folk (that is, I make $10,000 a year at Wal-Mart) appreciate ideas of giving and getting freely. Who needs riches if everybody works together?
I agree. I'm a Christian and I'm a moderate. I'm registered as a Democrat, but I'll vote for people who are closer to the middle (That is guys like John McCain and Joe Lieberman). As for Christian beliefs and extra terrestrials, I don't think there's anyone else out there; however, the Bible does not mention that we are alone, so I wouldn't argue against it. But if there are others out there, then I would assume that they would follow the same God as we should follow. After all Christians believe that God created the whole Universe. So I wouldn't look at it as being an egotistical self-rightous holier-than-thou perspective, but a logical idea for Christians. One of the things we often do is confuse beliefs for opinions. So in that case, it would look pretty closed minded. But when we seperate the two terms, we can see that it would be rediculous to be "open minded" if one beleives something to be true. Thus if I believe cow droppings are harmful to eat, I'm not asserting an opinion, I'm making the claim that it is true and therefore would not necessarily view something contrary to that to also be true.
But they don't have the right to put up whatever they want. Especially if they have neighbors. You see, if the town becomes ugly, then the value of their property diminishes. It's kinda like me going over to some kids house and spilling kool-aid on his super rare comic book.
Are you 12 or are you stupid. Just because you wish the PSP was winning doesn't mean that it is.
My GBA and GC get the most use out of my collection of game consoles. The reason why Nintendo keeps cranking out those blockbuster family friendly games is because people buy 'em.
Personally I feel bad for all those gamers who have to rape a hooker to have fun in a game. Sounds pretty immature to me.
In the end he's now got the big studio and calling the shots. It's as though he joined the dark side to defeat the dark side.
You mean /. has an article that views Christianity in a positive light!??? Isn't that against the rules? After all today we wake up and see how anybody who thinks that the world was intelligently designed is obviously stupid.
Anyway, I've been a fan of Christian Rock music for a long time. In fact, it was Christian Rock that proved to me that Christianity is not boring. As a kid growing up in a Non-Christian home, I thought that Christianity was all about watching a boring channel on TV listening to boring music. Then I was exposed to bands such as Audio Adrenaline, the Newsboys, and dc Talk. It really changed my perspective.
Now, as a Christian, I'm a huge fan of such bands as Disciple, Thousand Foot Krutch, and toby Mac. If you're not a Christian you should check it out anyway. I mean after all you listen to POD, don't you?
There are platformer games that I think are boring such as Crash (or any other game that sneaks a pointless endless pit of death on you every 5 seconds). So I don't buy 'em. But go over to any random person's house, and you'll see that they usually have something in there collection such as Smash Brothers or Mario Kart. Why blow $20-$50 on something that is just not "sophisticated enough"and grownup enough? Why blow money on both Zeldas if you don't like 'em?
If I want to blow things to bits, I load a proper strategy game. E.g., "Rome: Total War".
When I was a kid. I never understood why grownups stopped watching cartoons. I still think they're a hoot. I never wanted to grow up to be some boring fella who could only find enjoyment in boringness. I don't know, but I'd rather fight the evil Dr. Robotnik than yawn through some ultra-realistic game with super grainy or horribly polygonated graphics. (Not that I'm saying E rated games are not polygonated, I'm saying that if the game is suppose to look realistic, it doesn't).
Who wants to sneak around with a square head with a "Realistic" face painted on? Who wants to fall asleep while playing a game with a depressing and slow storyline? I sure don't. Kiddy or not, I have fun.
Person:What!? My Aunt Betsy is bleeding all over the place!!! Please help her!
911 Operator:I'm sorry, the trial version does not include panicing. Would you like to upgrade to 911 Profesional Edition?
Person:This is insane! If this is Canid Camera I don't have time for this. My Aunt is Dying. There is bloo...
911 Operator:I'm sorry your 93 second trial period has expired please tell me your 83 character activation code. We will then send someone to your house to make sure that you are only having one emergency as agreed upon in the EULA.
I think people take cheap shots at them because they don't want to admit that "kiddy games" such as Zelda: Wind Waker and Mario Sunshine are a lot more fun to play than those hack and slash "grownup" games.
I'm 23 years old and most of my games are E rated. Some are T rated. None are M rated. M rated games just aren't very fun. My buddies tease me about it, but who isn't having fun playing Mario Kart or Mario Party? Who doesn't like to drop a bomb bug on their enemies pikmin and blow 'em to bits? Who doesn't think the storyline to Windwaker is interesting?
I don't know. As a taxpayer, I wouldn't want to be paying for pornography. As any slashdotter would know, bandwidth costs money. In addition to that, I wouldn't want to pass a laptop that has pornography displayed on it.