well put.
If you don't like car analogies I just change it to "PC", or maybe house, as they're more likely to last as long as some old music media than most cars or certainly computers.
I know I'm only quoting it, but I'm pretty sure it's right. aircraft fuel doesn't burn at a high enough temperature to melt the girders used in the twin towers construction, and isn't it interesting how other similarly constructed buildings burnt for far, far longer, across more floors, without miraculously, and cleaning folding in on themselves perfectly as only otherwise seen in controlled building demolitions ?
actually, I suppose it could well be more environmentally friendly to just use these, if they can provide power on par with, or greater than fuel cells for size/weight. There wouldn't be any emissions with a capacitor? and weather you use fuel cells or these, there are power requirments to charge them/produce the hydrogen for their respective systems..
Thats just fantastic, sounds like the ideal replacment for batteries, and puts fuel cells out of business for small consumer products like laptops I'd have though, especially as they wouldn't cause any problems on planes.
hydrogen fuel cells would still be great for larger things like cars.
could these be produced in a way to fit in existing devices as soon as possible? I'f this really is safer for the environment, I'd love to see these asap, especially as most batteries are standard sizes already, even inside a laptop battery there are often (always?) muliple standard sized cells.
I hope they're easilly recyclable too, for when they do finally fail.
yeah, I hadn't paused to think about that, that's a VERY valid point.
unless the drm key was stored in just a few file parts, and the rest can be shared? but then I beleive that would be soooooooo easy to crack it would be unworkable.
mod parent up!
Trying online distribution over BT is the way to go if they don't want to come crashing down, BUT what is reasonable about paying the same price for something so crippled, compared to something that isn't, + a nice hard copy, + nice packaging.
especially when this crippled version is costing them next to nothing to distribute.
next thing you know they'll want more money to re download it if your file gets damaged later. and your BOUND to have to pay again if you upgrade/replace your PC so their DRM fails.
whatever DRM system they use will probably not be supported 1-2 years later (new DRM brand Y, no backwards compatability) , and you'll have to think about buying it again then too.
They're allready seeing enough problems as it is with peoples consoles being trashed during firmware updates over live...
anyway, wouldn't pirates just add a modded boot sector to their disks that did the opposite again?
hmm, though admitedly this would be putting quite some strain on the chip, constantly reflashing it, it wouldn't bother MS as it would just be trashing backup users machines.
This has made it to slashdot, when i thoghut most people knew data tracks can be better plugged using a pen (I don't want tape comming off inside my player ta).
Never having actually seen the show I'm sorry I didn't realise the true nature of it.
It's a genuine corporate myth spread by DRM pushers I'd like to see busted open publicly, hence the post. I guess this isn't the type of program that would attempt to deal with this, but it would amuse me to see a light hearted atempt at it, rather than a sterile techno-geek raw 'state the facts' investigation.
either way, spot the smiley people, at worst I thoguht it was a bad attempt at a humour, not offtopic.
hmm, Skype isn't on this company's review list of their $199 voip software comparison chart?
Could this be FUD simply be because skype refused to pay them to be included? or just because skype is free?
I don't recognise the others on their list, all you can get for free is a list of vendor names (below), I'm assuming they're all propriatary and expensive as I don't recognise them offhand, though to be honest I'm not really into VoIP software.
"Info~Tech Vendor Evaluations VoIP SalesLogix 6.1 Best Software
List of Vendors 1. AudioCodes 2. Avaya 3. Epygi 4. Integral Access 5. Mediatrix 6. Mitel 7. Multi-Tech 8. Quintum 9. TalkSwitch 10. VegaStream 11. Verilink 12. Zultys
Cisco, Nortel, and Lucent chose not to participate in this comparison, as their products are directed primarily at the carrier and large enterprise market."
These copy protection schemes are NEVER goign to work as long as the content is still available to play on regular cd players. Even if it's not, it will be hacked as long as some hacker thinks it might be an amusing way to spend an afternoon.
why are sony SO unbeleivably stupid as to think otherwise. They must be wasting hundreds of thousands of pounds on this utterly useless rubbish, that even the least technical of people can bypass.
These things are so childish no hacker would even bother with them, as stated this one even defeats itself! It only takes one breach to distribute a copy, why piss off thousands of genuine paying clients?
The mind boggles, the only people winning are the copy protection companies living happy lives doing nothing but ripping Sony off.
aren't they supposed to do maketing studdies on things before release? maybe employ a 16 year old to independantly test the schemes for them rather than taking the word of the people selling them this rubbish (I'd have said 10 year old but it wouldn't be legal)
revenue lost to purchasing clients who will have to return product as it wont run. $X,0000 revenue lost to potential clients who will be scared off buying in the first place. $Y,0000 estimated reputation damage to company. priceless.
estimate of no. of pirated copies prevented. ZERO.
...when they claim this is to protect their disks from piracy, or 'enhance' them?
I mean, it doesn't take a hacker to bypass this, it takes anyone not running windows, or a kid with the tiny bit of a clue about whats going on.
they're putting this rubbish on millions of CD's, that will infect hundreds of thousands of machines, if not millions, and it does, absolutely nothing, 0, not one single positive thing, for anyone, including sony themselves (and i'm not just talking from bad PR)
on the flip side your system security is absolutely hosed, your ability to remove the kit is also non existant without insecure web access (the sony patch requires you / your network admin to allow activeX controls). your system performance is reduced, your open to any memory loss from their sloppy coding, BSOD's are not uncommon, vista is apparently completely totaled.
you have to waste time, energy,bandwidth, you name it on installing their 'upgrade' on any new, or reinstalled machine you happene to let the CD run on, you can never patch the CD.
Sony do you want this program running on YOUR OWN PC's even?
People are already apparently using it's ability to hide cheats from games by prefixing files with $sys$. the first virus's are moments away. DOS attack bots using 'sony's free "legal" rootkit' are probably already circulating.
A downloadable patch to stop the rootkit hiding things IS TOO LATE, the CD's are already out there, people are still infected, many who will never bother, or actually can't run the update sony suggests.
Personally I think it's shocking secunia is listing this as 'less critical', when any other bug in an application you know you installed, with the ability to "compromise a users system" normally gets shooed in as highly critical straight away.
Wake up Sony, if you want a CD to still be an audio CD, ie still play on home CD-audio players, then anything you add to it to reduce functinality on a computer WILL NOT PREVENT PIRACY, *EVER*, not even slightly, the people selling you this crap are LYING TO YOU. WAKE UP.
It takes one person to rip and distribute a CD, ONE, and to stop that one person you would have to come up with something that would stop the most hard core cracker you could possibly imagine that lives and breaths in assembler, because they see this kind of thing as a challenge, for fun. and if your content is available in another non DRM'd format, or just a less secure one? then forget it, you've allready let the cat out of the bag. really, just stop screwing the people actually paying you.
I don't condone piracy, it's just a fact. When a 6 year old with 3 weeks PC experience, and the basic rudiments of SAFE COMPUTING PRACTICES, or COMMON SENSE ("don't agree to installing anytihng you weren't expecting a popup message for, ever") can circumvent the protection on your discs ENTIRELY so he can still copy it to his ipod, you need to seriously rethink what your doing, where your ploughing your millions of pounds, and whats the IQ of your managers and test staff.
'DRM enhanced' is truly a joke, what does it enhance exactly? it's actually WORSE than trying to explain how gift vouchers that can be used to buy stuff in any of 100 stores are somehow better than MONEY that can be used in any store anywhere. (worse as there are arguments for vouchers, trying to encourage a child to buy a book instead of sweets, etc) I fully support the "DRM infected" rebranding.
I know I'm preaching to the converted here on/. but this deserves the rant, I feel slightly better now, but like many here I'm sure as hell never buying DRM disks now. There are Sony products I absolutely adore, their style is wonderful (PSP, viao etc, though I own none) I'd hate to see it lost, but they really need to be utterly nailed to the wall for this to absolutely stop this kind of thing happening ever again.
I know how you feel, not that I had a name change forced upon me, but confusion arrose from an uncontrollable situation.
I had been Yakumo online for several years before a German company decided to start using it to sell computers and parts online, god knows why, it's a Japanese name, genderless, but most comonly used for males.
The first time I heard of the company someone asked me why I was named after their keyboard:o( Since then Yakumo's have sprouted up all over the place and i have to fight for my nick every page I sign up on, or IRC server I join, and it never seems to be Japanese, or Anime fans, it's always germans who decided to name themselves after their PC:o( I end up with a lot of Germans PM'ing me on IRC demanding 'their name back', or their friends trying to chat to me in a language i don't understand, when I spent many years on the same networks without ever having any conflicts.
There's the Yakumo brand DVD players now, I don't know if it's a related company.
I figure it must be karma for all the european players I used to batter playing Quake....;o)
I'm proud of my old Quake Clan(UNR, Clan Unreal) but I'd preffer not to have to attach it to my login, just nothing else seems appropriate.:o/
As for blocking people for celebrity names, mentioned in another post, that's ridiculous, celerbrities have the same names as often hundreds of other people, many of them far older, people have a right to use their own name online, so if nothing else the usser should have been contacted.
Though not a car obviously, there's also the ENV1 bike ( http://www.envbike.com/ )reported here before, using hydrogen fuel cells, emitting water and electricity. there are still environmental issues over the hydrogen production in the first place but it still seems much better than oil.
I hadn't untill just the other day heard about the GM EN1 also (though I beleive this was just electric)?
"Even today's superclean hybrid cars are still polluters--their electric batteries are recharged by small gas engines. But up until 2003, you could lease a true zero-emission electric car from General Motors: the EV1. It was a science-fiction car of the first order, and it looked it--all swoopy lines and space-egg aerodynamics. None were made available for sale. When the leases on the EV1s expired, GM recalled the cars, over the ardent objections of many of the lessees, who protested, begged, and lobbied GM to let them buy their vehicles. GM would not relent, and, citing concerns over liability and parts availability, even took to crushing some of these high-tech marvels to keep them off the road."
source: cnet's top 10 things we miss
http://www.cnet.com/4520-11136_1-6259955-1.html?ta g=txt
If it wasn't bittorent it would be gnutella/ed2k. If it wasn't gnutella/ed2k it would be direct connect. If it wasn't direct connect it would be kazaa. If it wasn't kazaa it would be irc. If it wasn't irc it would be FTP.
Illicit content will always be distributed over the fastest most efficient protocol the people doing it can find. (also moving to most anonymous/secure).
Why? because they have total freedom of choice to choose the BEST, even if it's hidiously expensive software they wont care because they'll get hold of that without paying to use it the same as everything else.
why would ANYONE wanting to distribute metric tons of water keep trying to do it with a straw when a hose was available, and a hose when industrial pipes were, if getting hold of and setting any of the equipment options up cost them absolutely nothing at all.
The same goes for any other software, eg video editing, content production, they'll always get hold of the best to do the thing they want to do.
video codecs are a brilliant example, WTH are Sony doing branding xvid/divx as 'nothing but pirate tools' and crippling Vegas Video for it. People working on any home video want the lowest filesize, best quality compression they can find usually to send their home video's to friends, archive as much as possible, whatever. many games companies use divx now, I'm sure more will use xvid soon (maybe they're worried about licensing? worrying it might be making their content open source).
(not that pirates wont welcome sony's blue-ray format or probably several of their other products)
Crippling x or y bit of software because pirates use it is just crippling progress, technology as a whole. All it does is cause them to move to a competing/different technology/program, and annoy legitimate end usesrs, often stoping them buying a product,
I actually think Q3's the fastest, I've seen 3500+ ups done with default physics;op
quake has fastest weapons, and probably run speed.
q2's really quite sluggish once you get used to q1 or q3, but it really was superb fun for years.
i really didn't like q3 movement, speed, weapons, net code, anything till I really figured it out, and since i've found the previous games relatively unplayable.
Q3's movement is superior in accuracy and speed to q2 imo, the only thing it lacks (unless you play promode) is the double jumps. The rest it's better at, and it adds plasma jumps and plasma climbing to make up for that:)
What if there was clean-burning gasoline that only cost $0.02/gal? Booo-hooo Exxon goes out of business, and some Arab dictators need to figure out a different way to keep their kingdoms.
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well put. If you don't like car analogies I just change it to "PC", or maybe house, as they're more likely to last as long as some old music media than most cars or certainly computers.
Havn't seen "lose change 2nd ed" have you?
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http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7167151
I know I'm only quoting it, but I'm pretty sure it's right. aircraft fuel doesn't burn at a high enough temperature to melt the girders used in the twin towers construction, and isn't it interesting how other similarly constructed buildings burnt for far, far longer, across more floors, without miraculously, and cleaning folding in on themselves perfectly as only otherwise seen in controlled building demolitions ?
Awesome, welcome to 'The Titanium Age' ;)
actually, I suppose it could well be more environmentally friendly to just use these, if they can provide power on par with, or greater than fuel cells for size/weight. There wouldn't be any emissions with a capacitor? and weather you use fuel cells or these, there are power requirments to charge them/produce the hydrogen for their respective systems..
Thats just fantastic, sounds like the ideal replacment for batteries, and puts fuel cells out of business for small consumer products like laptops I'd have though, especially as they wouldn't cause any problems on planes.
hydrogen fuel cells would still be great for larger things like cars.
could these be produced in a way to fit in existing devices as soon as possible? I'f this really is safer for the environment, I'd love to see these asap, especially as most batteries are standard sizes already, even inside a laptop battery there are often (always?) muliple standard sized cells.
I hope they're easilly recyclable too, for when they do finally fail.
7z compresses the same 30mb of data, not only in less time, but to a higher ratio, than any other format i've tried. (rar, ace, zip, lzh, arj).
yeah, I hadn't paused to think about that, that's a VERY valid point. unless the drm key was stored in just a few file parts, and the rest can be shared? but then I beleive that would be soooooooo easy to crack it would be unworkable. mod parent up!
Honestly, what kind of pipe are they smoking.
Trying online distribution over BT is the way to go if they don't want to come crashing down, BUT what is reasonable about paying the same price for something so crippled, compared to something that isn't, + a nice hard copy, + nice packaging.
especially when this crippled version is costing them next to nothing to distribute.
next thing you know they'll want more money to re download it if your file gets damaged later. and your BOUND to have to pay again if you upgrade/replace your PC so their DRM fails.
whatever DRM system they use will probably not be supported 1-2 years later (new DRM brand Y, no backwards compatability) , and you'll have to think about buying it again then too.
It sure is one of them if you have a strong scot accent, which is how i read it...
Whats the odds it's google with all that dark fiber?
They're allready seeing enough problems as it is with peoples consoles being trashed during firmware updates over live...
anyway, wouldn't pirates just add a modded boot sector to their disks that did the opposite again?
hmm, though admitedly this would be putting quite some strain on the chip, constantly reflashing it, it wouldn't bother MS as it would just be trashing backup users machines.
This has made it to slashdot, when i thoghut most people knew data tracks can be better plugged using a pen (I don't want tape comming off inside my player ta).
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and the fact that the EFF is now pushing fully ahead with it's lawsuit against Sony has completely missed the news so far http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2005_11.php#0041
Never having actually seen the show I'm sorry I didn't realise the true nature of it.
It's a genuine corporate myth spread by DRM pushers I'd like to see busted open publicly, hence the post.
I guess this isn't the type of program that would attempt to deal with this, but it would amuse me to see a light hearted atempt at it, rather than a sterile techno-geek raw 'state the facts' investigation.
either way, spot the smiley people, at worst I thoguht it was a bad attempt at a humour, not offtopic.
Q: so how exactly does DRM benefit THE CONSUMER? :)
hmm, Skype isn't on this company's review list of their $199 voip software comparison chart?
Could this be FUD simply be because skype refused to pay them to be included? or just because skype is free?
I don't recognise the others on their list, all you can get for free is a list of vendor names (below), I'm assuming they're all propriatary and expensive as I don't recognise them offhand, though to be honest I'm not really into VoIP software.
"Info~Tech Vendor Evaluations VoIP
SalesLogix 6.1
Best Software
List of Vendors
1. AudioCodes
2. Avaya
3. Epygi
4. Integral Access
5. Mediatrix
6. Mitel
7. Multi-Tech
8. Quintum
9. TalkSwitch
10. VegaStream
11. Verilink
12. Zultys
Cisco, Nortel, and Lucent chose not to participate in this comparison, as their products are directed primarily at the carrier and large enterprise market."
Mod up parent, i'd love to see this investigated more thoroughly!
heard someone mention this in less detail in the prewvious news peice on Sony.
These copy protection schemes are NEVER goign to work as long as the content is still available to play on regular cd players. Even if it's not, it will be hacked as long as some hacker thinks it might be an amusing way to spend an afternoon.
why are sony SO unbeleivably stupid as to think otherwise. They must be wasting hundreds of thousands of pounds on this utterly useless rubbish, that even the least technical of people can bypass.
These things are so childish no hacker would even bother with them, as stated this one even defeats itself!
It only takes one breach to distribute a copy, why piss off thousands of genuine paying clients?
The mind boggles, the only people winning are the copy protection companies living happy lives doing nothing but ripping Sony off.
aren't they supposed to do maketing studdies on things before release?
maybe employ a 16 year old to independantly test the schemes for them rather than taking the word of the people selling them this rubbish
(I'd have said 10 year old but it wouldn't be legal)
revenue lost to purchasing clients who will have to return product as it wont run. $X,0000
revenue lost to potential clients who will be scared off buying in the first place. $Y,0000
estimated reputation damage to company. priceless.
estimate of no. of pirated copies prevented. ZERO.
...when they claim this is to protect their disks from piracy, or 'enhance' them?
/. but this deserves the rant, I feel slightly better now, but like many here I'm sure as hell never buying DRM disks now. There are Sony products I absolutely adore, their style is wonderful (PSP, viao etc, though I own none) I'd hate to see it lost, but they really need to be utterly nailed to the wall for this to absolutely stop this kind of thing happening ever again.
I mean, it doesn't take a hacker to bypass this, it takes anyone not running windows, or a kid with the tiny bit of a clue about whats going on.
they're putting this rubbish on millions of CD's, that will infect hundreds of thousands of machines, if not millions, and it does, absolutely nothing, 0, not one single positive thing, for anyone, including sony themselves (and i'm not just talking from bad PR)
on the flip side your system security is absolutely hosed, your ability to remove the kit is also non existant without insecure web access (the sony patch requires you / your network admin to allow activeX controls). your system performance is reduced, your open to any memory loss from their sloppy coding, BSOD's are not uncommon, vista is apparently completely totaled.
you have to waste time, energy,bandwidth, you name it on installing their 'upgrade' on any new, or reinstalled machine you happene to let the CD run on, you can never patch the CD.
Sony do you want this program running on YOUR OWN PC's even?
People are already apparently using it's ability to hide cheats from games by prefixing files with $sys$. the first virus's are moments away. DOS attack bots using 'sony's free "legal" rootkit' are probably already circulating.
A downloadable patch to stop the rootkit hiding things IS TOO LATE, the CD's are already out there, people are still infected, many who will never bother, or actually can't run the update sony suggests.
Personally I think it's shocking secunia is listing this as 'less critical', when any other bug in an application you know you installed, with the ability to "compromise a users system" normally gets shooed in as highly critical straight away.
Wake up Sony, if you want a CD to still be an audio CD, ie still play on home CD-audio players, then anything you add to it to reduce functinality on a computer WILL NOT PREVENT PIRACY, *EVER*, not even slightly, the people selling you this crap are LYING TO YOU. WAKE UP.
It takes one person to rip and distribute a CD, ONE, and to stop that one person you would have to come up with something that would stop the most hard core cracker you could possibly imagine that lives and breaths in assembler, because they see this kind of thing as a challenge, for fun.
and if your content is available in another non DRM'd format, or just a less secure one? then forget it, you've allready let the cat out of the bag. really, just stop screwing the people actually paying you.
I don't condone piracy, it's just a fact. When a 6 year old with 3 weeks PC experience, and the basic rudiments of SAFE COMPUTING PRACTICES, or COMMON SENSE ("don't agree to installing anytihng you weren't expecting a popup message for, ever") can circumvent the protection on your discs ENTIRELY so he can still copy it to his ipod, you need to seriously rethink what your doing, where your ploughing your millions of pounds, and whats the IQ of your managers and test staff.
'DRM enhanced' is truly a joke, what does it enhance exactly? it's actually WORSE than trying to explain how gift vouchers that can be used to buy stuff in any of 100 stores are somehow better than MONEY that can be used in any store anywhere. (worse as there are arguments for vouchers, trying to encourage a child to buy a book instead of sweets, etc)
I fully support the "DRM infected" rebranding.
I know I'm preaching to the converted here on
I know how you feel, not that I had a name change forced upon me, but confusion arrose from an uncontrollable situation.
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;o)
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I had been Yakumo online for several years before a German company decided to start using it to sell computers and parts online, god knows why, it's a Japanese name, genderless, but most comonly used for males.
The first time I heard of the company someone asked me why I was named after their keyboard
Since then Yakumo's have sprouted up all over the place and i have to fight for my nick every page I sign up on, or IRC server I join, and it never seems to be Japanese, or Anime fans, it's always germans who decided to name themselves after their PC
I end up with a lot of Germans PM'ing me on IRC demanding 'their name back', or their friends trying to chat to me in a language i don't understand, when I spent many years on the same networks without ever having any conflicts.
There's the Yakumo brand DVD players now, I don't know if it's a related company.
I figure it must be karma for all the european players I used to batter playing Quake....
I'm proud of my old Quake Clan(UNR, Clan Unreal) but I'd preffer not to have to attach it to my login, just nothing else seems appropriate.
As for blocking people for celebrity names, mentioned in another post, that's ridiculous, celerbrities have the same names as often hundreds of other people, many of them far older, people have a right to use their own name online, so if nothing else the usser should have been contacted.
anyway... many sympathies CmdrTaco.
gosh, really, Bush was in power in 1973?
cough
Though not a car obviously, there's also the ENV1 bike ( http://www.envbike.com/ )reported here before, using hydrogen fuel cells, emitting water and electricity. there are still environmental issues over the hydrogen production in the first place but it still seems much better than oil. I hadn't untill just the other day heard about the GM EN1 also (though I beleive this was just electric)? "Even today's superclean hybrid cars are still polluters--their electric batteries are recharged by small gas engines. But up until 2003, you could lease a true zero-emission electric car from General Motors: the EV1. It was a science-fiction car of the first order, and it looked it--all swoopy lines and space-egg aerodynamics. None were made available for sale. When the leases on the EV1s expired, GM recalled the cars, over the ardent objections of many of the lessees, who protested, begged, and lobbied GM to let them buy their vehicles. GM would not relent, and, citing concerns over liability and parts availability, even took to crushing some of these high-tech marvels to keep them off the road." source: cnet's top 10 things we miss http://www.cnet.com/4520-11136_1-6259955-1.html?ta g=txt
It is , I beleive, the fist object oriented shell.
All the others use strings for piping.
Most *nix users i've seen writing online that tried it for a good while to really get used to it thoguht it was really good.
If it wasn't bittorent it would be gnutella/ed2k.
If it wasn't gnutella/ed2k it would be direct connect.
If it wasn't direct connect it would be kazaa.
If it wasn't kazaa it would be irc.
If it wasn't irc it would be FTP.
Illicit content will always be distributed over the fastest most efficient protocol the people doing it can find. (also moving to most anonymous/secure).
Why? because they have total freedom of choice to choose the BEST, even if it's hidiously expensive software they wont care because they'll get hold of that without paying to use it the same as everything else.
why would ANYONE wanting to distribute metric tons of water keep trying to do it with a straw when a hose was available, and a hose when industrial pipes were, if getting hold of and setting any of the equipment options up cost them absolutely nothing at all.
The same goes for any other software, eg video editing, content production, they'll always get hold of the best to do the thing they want to do.
video codecs are a brilliant example, WTH are Sony doing branding xvid/divx as 'nothing but pirate tools' and crippling Vegas Video for it. People working on any home video want the lowest filesize, best quality compression they can find usually to send their home video's to friends, archive as much as possible, whatever.
many games companies use divx now, I'm sure more will use xvid soon (maybe they're worried about licensing? worrying it might be making their content open source).
(not that pirates wont welcome sony's blue-ray format or probably several of their other products)
Crippling x or y bit of software because pirates use it is just crippling progress, technology as a whole. All it does is cause them to move to a competing/different technology/program, and annoy legitimate end usesrs, often stoping them buying a product,
Ultimately shooting everyone in the foot.
I actually think Q3's the fastest, I've seen 3500+ ups done with default physics ;op
:)
quake has fastest weapons, and probably run speed.
q2's really quite sluggish once you get used to q1 or q3, but it really was superb fun for years.
i really didn't like q3 movement, speed, weapons, net code, anything till I really figured it out, and since i've found the previous games relatively unplayable.
Q3's movement is superior in accuracy and speed to q2 imo, the only thing it lacks (unless you play promode) is the double jumps. The rest it's better at, and it adds plasma jumps and plasma climbing to make up for that
isn't it called hydrogen?
http://www.intelligent-energy.com/index_article.as p?secID=15&secondlevel=796&artID=3709
(first saw this on slashdot)
UK company has demonstrated a hydrogen bike running at 50mph producing only 'water clean enough to drink', sooner this is adapted for cars and we stop screwing the atmosphere, and burning up our oil supplies the better.