I'm sorry to break the bad news, but most of us get blessed few opportunities to program assembly these days. Embedded systems is about the last bastion for assembler code (Especially ARM Assembly, like if you've been tasked with writing a bootloader for that ARM7 device).. But the rest of the unwashed programming masses? Even microcontrollers are programmed in C nowadays.
If your intent is to provide a project for a kid, you could do a lot worse than going some place like Weird Stuff, buying up a handful of Compute! magazines and a Commodore 64, a 1541 disk drive, and a box of 10 floppies.
If your intent is to teach programming to a kid, I recommend Python instead of a Commodore 64. All of that GOTO 10 stuff caused near-permanent bad programming habits to an entire generation of coders. Python is the new BASIC.
Another vote for working with the ATMega (or ATTiny) chips directly rather than via the arduino framework. The arduino boards are neat and everything, but expensive ($20-$30ish) I'd hate to lose one inside of a design. That is to say, when I design and build something, it is for permanent. I want to place a $5 microcontroller in there, not a $35 piece of development prototyping hardware.. and the dealbreaker: Arduino code is not compatible with bare ATMega chips. I recommend ladyada's minipov3 kit for learning Atmel microcontrollers: http://www.adafruit.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=20
$17.50, built-in programmer, battery-pack, ATTiny2313 microcontroller, LED's on the outputs.. You can't go wrong. The parent's comments about debugging are well-founded as well. Check this out: http://www.nkcelectronics.com/avr-jtag-ice-clone-debugger-programmer-kit.html
an $18 JTAG ICE for ATMega16/32/64/128 chips. I never thought that I'd be doing step-in/step-over IDE debugging on target hardware with a $20 piece of debugging equipment at home. The future is here.
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I found Anarchy Online to be very similar. It is free to play up to a certain level (was 60 I think?) and you're confined to a starting world.. I found the game a lot of fun and decided to pony-up for the subscription. The areas outside of the free-to-play are desolate wastelands.
You can still buy new controllers and adapters with an IDE interface.
Ah, Argument by Selective Reading. See and Raise.
Do you really think that you will be able to find controllers and adapters for the PATA interface in 25 years?
To expand: Ok, my bad, it isn't 10 years. But IDE certainly hasn't been "in general use" since 1986 either. ATA-1 became an ANSI standard in 1994. I probably saw it in PC's a couple of years before then, maybe as early as 1992. But I think we can hardly say that it is "in general use" now, either, can we?
for every box of 4x5 negatives that look great, how many photos are faded? How many are covered in mildew?
None were faded, still very printable. Also, it turns out that silver is a potent anti-fungal, so no mildew either. The bigger point is that with digital, you need a Plan. I was very late to switching to Digital mostly because I wasn't ready to commit to the digital archival commitment yet. Will my digital photos be around in 50 years? Who knows.. I'm mostly worried about making sure that they're around in 10 years.. or even through the next HD crash. I've got a raid array'd fileserver in my garage and a backup solution.. I put my favorite digital photos offsite via the internet as well.. and with film I have an archival binder on the shelf. One will require 0 effort (aside from your aforementioned not letting the house catch fire) and the other will take hundreds (thousands?) of hours over the years. I use both, like I said. I'm not trying to be a film bigot here.. But when we're talking about archival, at the very least it is way too early to have a clear answer with regard to digital.
IDE has been around quite a long time now, and it's still plenty accessible. At most you'd need to give it some attention every few years.
Once you are gone, is anyone going to give a shit about your photos to bother with the trouble of preserving them digitally?
OTOH, if no one does, how much does it really matter?
Besides, it's not like you can't make hard-copy printouts from digital, and there are some photo inks that "should" last comparably to film.
Actually, you really just made the GP's point. IDE? Are you kidding me? It's only been around 10 years. What if those images were on an old ST225 MFM drive, hm? You going to put together the PC-XT that can read that sucker so you can get your images? Too easy? Ok, what if your images were stored on a Floptical disc? Good luck with finding a working floptical drive buddy. These sound hard to believe? Wait until 20 years from now and you're wondering how to get those images off of an IDE drive that is NTFS formatted. The PC industry is REPLETE with old standards that came and went. Filesystems, physical storage systems, etc, etc, etc. The GP is absolutely right that digital requires constant vigilance and effort. It comes with the territory, you can't argue against it. Is it something that we buy into when we shoot digital? Yes, absolutely. As for inkjet prints that last as long as silver-halide films? You've got to be seriously kidding me. Check back in 100 years and let me know how those prints are looking, because the films are doing great. How do I know? There's lots of silver-halide negatives from 100 years ago that still look great. Shit, I found a big box of 4x5" negatives in my family's ancestral home, and I printed them in my darkroom. Still look great. and That, my friend, is my last point. Just because you don't care about the longterm archival of your photos doesn't mean that 3 generations from now might not be interested in seeing them.
Disclaimer: I have a darkroom and shoot my Minolta XD-11 almost as much as I shoot my Nikon D3000. Different tools for different jobs, in my opinion.
In the "which is easiest to prevent data loss" wars, digital wins hands down.
Not to be a luddite, but you are relying on a LOT of equipment and infrastructure in order to view your images. What will you do after the robo-pocalypse, hm? You want to talk about useful image longevity?
As long as the sun still burns in the sky, you will be able to hold a film image up to the light and enjoy it.
Why can't I buy a frame that simply displays a.RSS on the internet? Not a monthly pay service. Not some 3rd party that'll probably be out of business before the batteries die. Not some special format only. Just freaking show me the pix.
Actually, the Kodak EasyShare frames that we happen to be discussing have this feature. I own one, it's a weird little box, but you can definitely point it to whatever RSS feed you like. and No, mine isn't pointed to framechannel.
How about modding your system so that you can perform legitimate backups? A lot of us have kids, and a lot of us have seen what kids (as well as 360's) can do to original discs. I have a modded 360, and I only play legitimate backups (which I own) on it. And yep, I got banned too. It means that I can't download patches or buy any DLC. But that's ok.. It saves me $10/month that I was paying to Microsoft and won't be paying any further.. And there's still multiplayer ability via XBConnect and Xlink Kai. Netflix is still available to me via Playon.tv - So, really the big thing I've lost here is the ability to patch my games and pay Microsoft $10/month.
I bought a 4p a few years back for $30 (including toner and jetdirect card, what a bargain!) It still works great.
The only warning I might offer up is that you'll want to make sure that wherever you plug in one of these baddies, make sure you've got grid power to spare. They draw 15amp for a few milliseconds at a time (while powering the laser), which was enough to brown-out my already overloaded computer room grid. Now that printer lives in the garage.
Right. I worked on one of these devices several years ago, It was a Left-Ventricle Assist. Constant flow like this, it used a mag-lev impeller to move the blood. Now, this thing was connected to an external controller module via a percutaneous cable running through the patient's skin. Attached to the controller module were two Lithium-Ion battery packs.
And for those who wonder about the possibility of having that percutaneous cable yanked out by foolish EMT's, my understanding was that it was actually anchored to a rib.
The bottom line is that there would be NO WAY anyone could look at this rig and not know that you are some kind of cyborg.
I remember those days also. Long gone.
My ICQ # was 8 digits, beginning with 117 - so, not exactly a founding member.. But ICQ certainly used to be the only messenger. This was 2001, I think.
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I'm sorry to break the bad news, but most of us get blessed few opportunities to program assembly these days. Embedded systems is about the last bastion for assembler code (Especially ARM Assembly, like if you've been tasked with writing a bootloader for that ARM7 device).. But the rest of the unwashed programming masses? Even microcontrollers are programmed in C nowadays.
Sorry, meant to attach a link: http://www.amazon.com/Hello-World-Computer-Programming-Beginners/dp/1933988495/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1276643304&sr=8-1
If your intent is to provide a project for a kid, you could do a lot worse than going some place like Weird Stuff, buying up a handful of Compute! magazines and a Commodore 64, a 1541 disk drive, and a box of 10 floppies.
If your intent is to teach programming to a kid, I recommend Python instead of a Commodore 64. All of that GOTO 10 stuff caused near-permanent bad programming habits to an entire generation of coders. Python is the new BASIC.
Another vote for working with the ATMega (or ATTiny) chips directly rather than via the arduino framework. The arduino boards are neat and everything, but expensive ($20-$30ish) I'd hate to lose one inside of a design. That is to say, when I design and build something, it is for permanent. I want to place a $5 microcontroller in there, not a $35 piece of development prototyping hardware.. and the dealbreaker: Arduino code is not compatible with bare ATMega chips. I recommend ladyada's minipov3 kit for learning Atmel microcontrollers: http://www.adafruit.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=20 $17.50, built-in programmer, battery-pack, ATTiny2313 microcontroller, LED's on the outputs.. You can't go wrong. The parent's comments about debugging are well-founded as well. Check this out: http://www.nkcelectronics.com/avr-jtag-ice-clone-debugger-programmer-kit.html an $18 JTAG ICE for ATMega16/32/64/128 chips. I never thought that I'd be doing step-in/step-over IDE debugging on target hardware with a $20 piece of debugging equipment at home. The future is here.
Mod parent +1 insightful curmudgeon.
Nerds sure do love their stats.
... is how I read this. Probably the biggest wtf moment of my day.
I found Anarchy Online to be very similar. It is free to play up to a certain level (was 60 I think?) and you're confined to a starting world.. I found the game a lot of fun and decided to pony-up for the subscription. The areas outside of the free-to-play are desolate wastelands.
http://xkcd.com/552/
You can still buy new controllers and adapters with an IDE interface.
Ah, Argument by Selective Reading. See and Raise. Do you really think that you will be able to find controllers and adapters for the PATA interface in 25 years?
To expand: Ok, my bad, it isn't 10 years. But IDE certainly hasn't been "in general use" since 1986 either. ATA-1 became an ANSI standard in 1994. I probably saw it in PC's a couple of years before then, maybe as early as 1992. But I think we can hardly say that it is "in general use" now, either, can we?
for every box of 4x5 negatives that look great, how many photos are faded? How many are covered in mildew?
None were faded, still very printable. Also, it turns out that silver is a potent anti-fungal, so no mildew either. The bigger point is that with digital, you need a Plan. I was very late to switching to Digital mostly because I wasn't ready to commit to the digital archival commitment yet. Will my digital photos be around in 50 years? Who knows.. I'm mostly worried about making sure that they're around in 10 years.. or even through the next HD crash. I've got a raid array'd fileserver in my garage and a backup solution.. I put my favorite digital photos offsite via the internet as well.. and with film I have an archival binder on the shelf. One will require 0 effort (aside from your aforementioned not letting the house catch fire) and the other will take hundreds (thousands?) of hours over the years. I use both, like I said. I'm not trying to be a film bigot here.. But when we're talking about archival, at the very least it is way too early to have a clear answer with regard to digital.
IDE has been around quite a long time now, and it's still plenty accessible. At most you'd need to give it some attention every few years.
Once you are gone, is anyone going to give a shit about your photos to bother with the trouble of preserving them digitally?
OTOH, if no one does, how much does it really matter?
Besides, it's not like you can't make hard-copy printouts from digital, and there are some photo inks that "should" last comparably to film.
Actually, you really just made the GP's point. IDE? Are you kidding me? It's only been around 10 years. What if those images were on an old ST225 MFM drive, hm? You going to put together the PC-XT that can read that sucker so you can get your images? Too easy? Ok, what if your images were stored on a Floptical disc? Good luck with finding a working floptical drive buddy. These sound hard to believe? Wait until 20 years from now and you're wondering how to get those images off of an IDE drive that is NTFS formatted. The PC industry is REPLETE with old standards that came and went. Filesystems, physical storage systems, etc, etc, etc. The GP is absolutely right that digital requires constant vigilance and effort. It comes with the territory, you can't argue against it. Is it something that we buy into when we shoot digital? Yes, absolutely. As for inkjet prints that last as long as silver-halide films? You've got to be seriously kidding me. Check back in 100 years and let me know how those prints are looking, because the films are doing great. How do I know? There's lots of silver-halide negatives from 100 years ago that still look great. Shit, I found a big box of 4x5" negatives in my family's ancestral home, and I printed them in my darkroom. Still look great. and That, my friend, is my last point. Just because you don't care about the longterm archival of your photos doesn't mean that 3 generations from now might not be interested in seeing them.
Disclaimer: I have a darkroom and shoot my Minolta XD-11 almost as much as I shoot my Nikon D3000. Different tools for different jobs, in my opinion.
In the "which is easiest to prevent data loss" wars, digital wins hands down.
Not to be a luddite, but you are relying on a LOT of equipment and infrastructure in order to view your images. What will you do after the robo-pocalypse, hm? You want to talk about useful image longevity?
As long as the sun still burns in the sky, you will be able to hold a film image up to the light and enjoy it.
According to TFA, it is only smartphone heavy users which will be hunted down. I can keep leeching on my FIOS as hard as I like! Hah!
guns DO NOT kill people....
Guns don't kill people... Fast moving projectiles kill people.
or.. (the one I use when my daughter brings home boyfriends to meet dad)
Guns don't kill people... _I_ Kill people.
Why can't I buy a frame that simply displays a .RSS on the internet? Not a monthly pay service. Not some 3rd party that'll probably be out of business before the batteries die. Not some special format only. Just freaking show me the pix.
Actually, the Kodak EasyShare frames that we happen to be discussing have this feature. I own one, it's a weird little box, but you can definitely point it to whatever RSS feed you like. and No, mine isn't pointed to framechannel.
How about modding your system so that you can perform legitimate backups? A lot of us have kids, and a lot of us have seen what kids (as well as 360's) can do to original discs. I have a modded 360, and I only play legitimate backups (which I own) on it. And yep, I got banned too. It means that I can't download patches or buy any DLC. But that's ok.. It saves me $10/month that I was paying to Microsoft and won't be paying any further.. And there's still multiplayer ability via XBConnect and Xlink Kai. Netflix is still available to me via Playon.tv - So, really the big thing I've lost here is the ability to patch my games and pay Microsoft $10/month.
I bought a 4p a few years back for $30 (including toner and jetdirect card, what a bargain!) It still works great. The only warning I might offer up is that you'll want to make sure that wherever you plug in one of these baddies, make sure you've got grid power to spare. They draw 15amp for a few milliseconds at a time (while powering the laser), which was enough to brown-out my already overloaded computer room grid. Now that printer lives in the garage.
Right. I worked on one of these devices several years ago, It was a Left-Ventricle Assist. Constant flow like this, it used a mag-lev impeller to move the blood. Now, this thing was connected to an external controller module via a percutaneous cable running through the patient's skin. Attached to the controller module were two Lithium-Ion battery packs. And for those who wonder about the possibility of having that percutaneous cable yanked out by foolish EMT's, my understanding was that it was actually anchored to a rib. The bottom line is that there would be NO WAY anyone could look at this rig and not know that you are some kind of cyborg.
Hey.. Mind posting the details on that remote timer?
But before you do, listen in the above poster so you can learn the lingo.
Was I the only person that heard a little Abbie Hoffman in that?
Burma Shave.
I remember those days also. Long gone. My ICQ # was 8 digits, beginning with 117 - so, not exactly a founding member.. But ICQ certainly used to be the only messenger. This was 2001, I think.
I was getting this earlier, but the latest seems to connect just fine.
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