I have a mac so I don't personally know, but was thinking about it since I have ripped a number of CDs as apple lossless, does Apple Lossles play with other media players, or is it esentially as locked up as FairPlay?
I want to know how they caught them, or even suspected them of such a thing. More than likely they were bragging about it at work or whatever. But how the heck would Apple know what these guys were doing at home in their own time?
Have the juristdiction of employers grown excessively? Reminds me of high school when they try to control and punish you for things that you did outside of school. Of course undermining your employers flagship product by seeding it isn't something that you can really expect to be take lightly.
Think it also has a lot to do with a lack of historical reference when people talk about technology.
We seem to think that all of this great 'new' technology that we have has no social or historical reference with which to understand it in a broader scope.
Its kind of sad, and kind of amusing considering all of the technology that we have and are using today are all products of ideas and dreams that geeks have been dreaming since ancient egypt. Do we really think that being a geek is a trait that just appeared in our time? Ancient Egypt had them, they created language; Midieval Eurpoe had themm,they created printing presses and leveraged IP to create a middle class. There are tons of lessons and substance that we can learn by studying the geeks of history, yet we choose to ignore it because we think it somehow lessens the impact of our new cool tool. (which it might when you consider your tech toy in the scope of human history rather than the ZD's "Cool Tech Toys of 2005")
Does it really matter though. I mean look at Bin Laden, et al. They seem to be able to communicate and set up PR (see the high production value of yesterdays video).
A rag tag bunch of insurgents seem to be handeling our armed forces and isreals. To want to control/monitor all of this seems to be a distraction from an effective strategy to crush dissent.
I think you touch on something incredibly important: Despite our technological improvements, even at the pace of approaching a singularity, we will still be at the mercy of natural resources. What good is being able to implant superfast processors into our brain if we cannot manufacture them because we dont have access to silicone or copper (whatever). We still must control and aquire natural resources and land for our future. Technological achievement is closely correlated and dependent upon availability of 'real stuff'.
But religious powers and interests created our firts technological breakthroughs: ie Egyptian high priests creating language to solidify religious power in the pharoah.
Historically the geeks of a society were involved in relgion, today they work for corporations.
Anyway, I dont know what point I was trying to make, and I realize the point you were trying to, but to dismiss relgious organization as inheriently evil or counterproductive to society is flat out false. As the central organizing structure for most of human history a lot of good things have come out of it.
As a geek and a fisherman, my trolling motor on my boat supposedly runs on very short bursts of power. This is to make the battery last considerably longer. I confirm that it is a huge improvement over the older models. I geta an entire day 8+ hours on a 12 volt car battery.
The text at the top, when referring to cars and trucks not being able to sustain speeds but being better at short bursts, fails to account for this technology.
It really doesn't matter what the 'new rules of business are' as there is not a significant shift what really makes the world go round. We can talk all high and mighty about technology, and it is pretty good and cool; but the fact of the matter is that we are still dependent upon natural resource aquisition and control. Granted technology allows us to exploit economies of scale and use resources more efficiently, but we are still slaves to land and natural resources much like our ancestors of the industrial age, or even the agerarian age. Not to troll, but if you want proof take a critical eye to post-WWII US foreign policy.
We do need people to take care of us, produce our food, wait our tables, sew us clothes, etc.
A growing global population is essential to economic growth and stability. Without it Slashdot becomes impossible, and I define my 'happiness' and a 'good life' as being able to read Slashdot everyday. Now if only the editors had the same passion...
I also agree, it might not be the best match for gamers in general. Specifically consoles, IBM is making all of the chips for the next gen systems, where ATI is creating specific graphics processors for Nintendo I believe. It seems like it might be good as these companies can 'leveage synergy', however I see an elimination of choices, specifically to mix and match.
All that they really need to do is prevent its onset by about 10-15 years. If they could do this it would essentially eliminate the disease, as it arrives very late in life. They don't really need an outright cure, but some way to slow it down to the point where we will likely be dead from other things before we really have to worry about Alzheimers.
I agree, if you look at the income gap it has defineatly increased with the introduction of computers to businesses and individuals. Esentially there is another tool for the privlidged to use to further exploit the 'have nots'. Computers increased efficiency, increased scale and have been used to leverage inequalities between groups for insane amounts of profit. Traditional cultural elites have been able to use technology to retain and futher entrench their control.
Although technology has the potential to 'level the playing field', I think we would be kidding ourselves if we think that that has been the case with the proliferation of computers and IT. I mean, Walmart is possible because of IT and supply chain management not possible without computers.
I think 'geeks' and those who create these technologies for a living need to seriously take a look at the role that their creations are having on the world. Technology itself is ethically neutral, but the reasons and motivations behind its creation seldom are and I think 'geeks' do have an obligation to examine the ethical and moral effects of their work and creations.
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I think it also applies further to free and open software too.
Esentially we are entering a period where the methods and means for communication are controlled by others (corporations). Without sufficient checks and balances in the system we cannot trust that our ability to communicate will remain available to us.
This is about our communication (the fundamental building block of society from the dawn of time) being outside of our control. "They" can essentially hit the mute button if they want.
Being unable to share thoughts and communicate is what is at issue here. Whether that be incompatabilities between media players, locking of 'questionable content' or whatever. We are esentially putting our ability to communicate with each other in the hands of people we are not sure we can trust.
I think you fail to account for the increased price of creation/production when you insist that the PS3 will have the widest variety of games. The one thing that traditionally lured developers to the PS console were the low costs of production and licensing. With huge budgets and expense to make a game I don't really think developers are going to take multi-million dollar risks, they will play it safe. PS3 will see a deeper entrenchment and reliance on established franchises/IP, and genres.
With the 27 games on the show floor, I think Wii not only had the widest variety of games but the most interesting and cutting edge. They really seem to be encouraging new ideas and trying to lure smaller developers. My guess is that they are hoping for the next big thing. Point being, the way the cards are set out now I don't see Sony having a wider variety of interesting games than Nintendo. Plus at 60+ a pop, it will cost a lot more to game on the PS3 than the Wii.
Isn't that the beauty of open source. They can simply add the accessability features themselves. Now they only need to open up their IDE that supports accessability features and code away.
Whine less, code more. Jeeze its like the boat left and these people are still sitting on the pier waiting.
Honestly though, they can/should use the tool that is better for their task. Today it may be word, 15 years from now it may be StarOffice. The point is that with open document they have the freedom to choose the best product for their own needs, rather than be tied to the only software that can open and interpret their files.
Worked for me. I have been a windows user all my life, and have admired apple since I became reintroduced to them through my 2nd gen iPod.
I wanted to try OS X out, downloaded it off a torrent installed it on my inspiron notebook, fell in love, realized the crap windows is, and bought an iMac a month later.
I think it is true, I hate windows, and I really hate having to fix other people I know's windows boxes. I have told them all that I now have a mac, and that their 'support contracts' now require them to make a platform migration.
I think so many people went into CS without a love or appreciation for it (or its baisis in mathematics). As a consequence the market was flooded with fools looking to make a buck. This was devistating because it turned the field from one of an applied academic dicipline to one of comodity output.
Not only do I hate working with these people, who are remnants of the.com rush, but they pulled the field down to their level rather than rising up to its level. You don't hear much discussion about mechanical/civil engineering going offshore because those fields are applied academic diciplines; not commodities.
Programmers are a raw material much like wool, cotten, corn, or ore. Programming has become assembely line work. Not only does this frustrate me because it is such an interesting area of study (and one still in its infancy), but like any commodity we (CS professionals) have to compete squarely on price. Perfect market.
It makes it that much harder for the business/joe sixpack world to understand that programming != programming.
The problem is that we will all want larger capacity MP3 players. I am waiting for a higher capacity one myself.
If you look at the product life cycle for digital music we are still in the growth phase. Sure for most people all of their music can fit on the 40 GB player, but guess what... these people's collections aren't getting smaller. The size of peoples collections will grow over time and I suspect that 20 years from now it wont be uncommon to have collections into the TB, with the increase capacity and low cost of disk based storage there will still be a place for these mp3 players for a long, long time.
I don't see them getting phased out anytime soon. If apple did it, it would be a great opportunity for someone to undercut the ipod market dominance and steal some market share.
I agree with your argument, but not the conclusions drawn.
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I have a mac so I don't personally know, but was thinking about it since I have ripped a number of CDs as apple lossless, does Apple Lossles play with other media players, or is it esentially as locked up as FairPlay?
I want to know how they caught them, or even suspected them of such a thing. More than likely they were bragging about it at work or whatever. But how the heck would Apple know what these guys were doing at home in their own time? Have the juristdiction of employers grown excessively? Reminds me of high school when they try to control and punish you for things that you did outside of school. Of course undermining your employers flagship product by seeding it isn't something that you can really expect to be take lightly.
Think it also has a lot to do with a lack of historical reference when people talk about technology.
We seem to think that all of this great 'new' technology that we have has no social or historical reference with which to understand it in a broader scope.
Its kind of sad, and kind of amusing considering all of the technology that we have and are using today are all products of ideas and dreams that geeks have been dreaming since ancient egypt. Do we really think that being a geek is a trait that just appeared in our time? Ancient Egypt had them, they created language; Midieval Eurpoe had themm,they created printing presses and leveraged IP to create a middle class. There are tons of lessons and substance that we can learn by studying the geeks of history, yet we choose to ignore it because we think it somehow lessens the impact of our new cool tool. (which it might when you consider your tech toy in the scope of human history rather than the ZD's "Cool Tech Toys of 2005")
Does it really matter though. I mean look at Bin Laden, et al. They seem to be able to communicate and set up PR (see the high production value of yesterdays video). A rag tag bunch of insurgents seem to be handeling our armed forces and isreals. To want to control/monitor all of this seems to be a distraction from an effective strategy to crush dissent.
.... license plates recognize cameras.
I think you touch on something incredibly important: Despite our technological improvements, even at the pace of approaching a singularity, we will still be at the mercy of natural resources. What good is being able to implant superfast processors into our brain if we cannot manufacture them because we dont have access to silicone or copper (whatever). We still must control and aquire natural resources and land for our future. Technological achievement is closely correlated and dependent upon availability of 'real stuff'.
But religious powers and interests created our firts technological breakthroughs: ie Egyptian high priests creating language to solidify religious power in the pharoah.
Historically the geeks of a society were involved in relgion, today they work for corporations.
Anyway, I dont know what point I was trying to make, and I realize the point you were trying to, but to dismiss relgious organization as inheriently evil or counterproductive to society is flat out false. As the central organizing structure for most of human history a lot of good things have come out of it.
As a geek and a fisherman, my trolling motor on my boat supposedly runs on very short bursts of power. This is to make the battery last considerably longer. I confirm that it is a huge improvement over the older models. I geta an entire day 8+ hours on a 12 volt car battery.
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The text at the top, when referring to cars and trucks not being able to sustain speeds but being better at short bursts, fails to account for this technology.
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It really doesn't matter what the 'new rules of business are' as there is not a significant shift what really makes the world go round. We can talk all high and mighty about technology, and it is pretty good and cool; but the fact of the matter is that we are still dependent upon natural resource aquisition and control. Granted technology allows us to exploit economies of scale and use resources more efficiently, but we are still slaves to land and natural resources much like our ancestors of the industrial age, or even the agerarian age. Not to troll, but if you want proof take a critical eye to post-WWII US foreign policy.
Terrorist Training camps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_of_the_america s
We do need people to take care of us, produce our food, wait our tables, sew us clothes, etc. A growing global population is essential to economic growth and stability. Without it Slashdot becomes impossible, and I define my 'happiness' and a 'good life' as being able to read Slashdot everyday. Now if only the editors had the same passion...
I also agree, it might not be the best match for gamers in general. Specifically consoles, IBM is making all of the chips for the next gen systems, where ATI is creating specific graphics processors for Nintendo I believe. It seems like it might be good as these companies can 'leveage synergy', however I see an elimination of choices, specifically to mix and match.
All that they really need to do is prevent its onset by about 10-15 years. If they could do this it would essentially eliminate the disease, as it arrives very late in life. They don't really need an outright cure, but some way to slow it down to the point where we will likely be dead from other things before we really have to worry about Alzheimers.
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There was a great documentary on PBS called "The Forgetting," which went into this, I highly recommend it. http://www.pbs.org/theforgetting/coping/planning.
I'm confused....
Are we actually talking about apple now, or are we still symbolically talking about the 'war on terra' and the United States?
I think your post is a veiled message about geopolitics, but on the other hand seems true about apple too.
I agree, if you look at the income gap it has defineatly increased with the introduction of computers to businesses and individuals. Esentially there is another tool for the privlidged to use to further exploit the 'have nots'. Computers increased efficiency, increased scale and have been used to leverage inequalities between groups for insane amounts of profit. Traditional cultural elites have been able to use technology to retain and futher entrench their control.
Although technology has the potential to 'level the playing field', I think we would be kidding ourselves if we think that that has been the case with the proliferation of computers and IT. I mean, Walmart is possible because of IT and supply chain management not possible without computers.
I think 'geeks' and those who create these technologies for a living need to seriously take a look at the role that their creations are having on the world. Technology itself is ethically neutral, but the reasons and motivations behind its creation seldom are and I think 'geeks' do have an obligation to examine the ethical and moral effects of their work and creations.
I think it also applies further to free and open software too.
Esentially we are entering a period where the methods and means for communication are controlled by others (corporations). Without sufficient checks and balances in the system we cannot trust that our ability to communicate will remain available to us.
This is about our communication (the fundamental building block of society from the dawn of time) being outside of our control. "They" can essentially hit the mute button if they want. Being unable to share thoughts and communicate is what is at issue here. Whether that be incompatabilities between media players, locking of 'questionable content' or whatever. We are esentially putting our ability to communicate with each other in the hands of people we are not sure we can trust.
I think you fail to account for the increased price of creation/production when you insist that the PS3 will have the widest variety of games. The one thing that traditionally lured developers to the PS console were the low costs of production and licensing. With huge budgets and expense to make a game I don't really think developers are going to take multi-million dollar risks, they will play it safe. PS3 will see a deeper entrenchment and reliance on established franchises/IP, and genres. With the 27 games on the show floor, I think Wii not only had the widest variety of games but the most interesting and cutting edge. They really seem to be encouraging new ideas and trying to lure smaller developers. My guess is that they are hoping for the next big thing. Point being, the way the cards are set out now I don't see Sony having a wider variety of interesting games than Nintendo. Plus at 60+ a pop, it will cost a lot more to game on the PS3 than the Wii.
There are about 8 different jokes in your post. All of them are too good to write out, so I will just point out they exist.
Wii've him along already. He's had wii'nough.
Isn't that the beauty of open source. They can simply add the accessability features themselves. Now they only need to open up their IDE that supports accessability features and code away. Whine less, code more. Jeeze its like the boat left and these people are still sitting on the pier waiting. Honestly though, they can/should use the tool that is better for their task. Today it may be word, 15 years from now it may be StarOffice. The point is that with open document they have the freedom to choose the best product for their own needs, rather than be tied to the only software that can open and interpret their files.
Worked for me. I have been a windows user all my life, and have admired apple since I became reintroduced to them through my 2nd gen iPod.
I wanted to try OS X out, downloaded it off a torrent installed it on my inspiron notebook, fell in love, realized the crap windows is, and bought an iMac a month later.
I think it is true, I hate windows, and I really hate having to fix other people I know's windows boxes. I have told them all that I now have a mac, and that their 'support contracts' now require them to make a platform migration.
Apple wins.
Probably because with this technology their systems and infrastructure will be exploited by commercial entities.
Not meaning to troll, or flame; but if this is the case it seems like a legitamate concern of ISPs.
I think so many people went into CS without a love or appreciation for it (or its baisis in mathematics). As a consequence the market was flooded with fools looking to make a buck. This was devistating because it turned the field from one of an applied academic dicipline to one of comodity output.
.com rush, but they pulled the field down to their level rather than rising up to its level. You don't hear much discussion about mechanical/civil engineering going offshore because those fields are applied academic diciplines; not commodities.
Not only do I hate working with these people, who are remnants of the
Programmers are a raw material much like wool, cotten, corn, or ore. Programming has become assembely line work. Not only does this frustrate me because it is such an interesting area of study (and one still in its infancy), but like any commodity we (CS professionals) have to compete squarely on price. Perfect market.
It makes it that much harder for the business/joe sixpack world to understand that programming != programming.
The problem is that we will all want larger capacity MP3 players. I am waiting for a higher capacity one myself.
If you look at the product life cycle for digital music we are still in the growth phase. Sure for most people all of their music can fit on the 40 GB player, but guess what... these people's collections aren't getting smaller. The size of peoples collections will grow over time and I suspect that 20 years from now it wont be uncommon to have collections into the TB, with the increase capacity and low cost of disk based storage there will still be a place for these mp3 players for a long, long time.
I don't see them getting phased out anytime soon. If apple did it, it would be a great opportunity for someone to undercut the ipod market dominance and steal some market share.
I agree with your argument, but not the conclusions drawn.