As a DeVry Institute of Technology graduate (1991 before they changed their name to "University") I can say that for me it appeared as if DeVry was grooming me to fill a position at a local company.
I went to the Kansas City location and most of the people I knew ended up getting temp-to-hire jobs at Sprint (we were Telecommunications majors). I did not want to work there so I had a much harder time finding employment.
You might already know or can check around to see if your DeVry is doing something similar. If so, then you can get your foot in the door, prove yourself, then do well at the company. Otherwise you will be unemployeed within about 6 months to a year.
I ended up working as a systems administrator at a local hospital where another employee (programmer/analyst) was a DeVry grad and another analyst was a Keller Management grad (affiliated with DeVry). We were all competent at various levels and were respected by most of the people I knew although one manager I knew did bash DeVry on a regular basis. I don't think he even knew that the three of us had been educated there.
Anyway, I believe that DeVry has a better overall reputation within the cities that it has campuses. Mainly because employers have had more experience with the graduates.
It's good to try to get a tech related part-time job before graduation and/or a very good senior project to help gain some impressive experience for future resume/interview material.
Just like any school, some people were born to do tech and some people were not and the big companies know it. Just like when Sprint hired the DeVry grads through the temp-to-hire third party company you'll have to stand out from the rest of the DeVry or non-DeVry candidates. Surely any HR person will know that.
...if the school is going to press felony charges against kids for playing with technology that they gave to the kids (with taxpayer money) then they need to realize this kind of stuff is going to happen.
What's next? Pressing charges against kids for writing in text books? Sueing kids for looking at the answers to math problems in the back of the book?
School officials need to "grow up" and realize that kids will be kids. Deal with it and *teach* them the errors of their ways (if even that) within the walls of the school. Not the court room or judicial system.
You make some good points. I'd also like to point out that some people such as myself buy MBs that have a good rep with the overclocking croud even though I do not overclock. They seem to make for very solid PCs that have outlasted by far any mass marketed PC I've ever bought.
So, let the tweakers do the tweaking if they so desire. Otherwise leave them alone. BTW I usually buy ASUS boards.
I don't know what scares me more, that the chips have been developed and are being promoted or that the general public will probably believe that it's a good idea.
Agreed. Most users think of the PC as an appliance. They just want their "'puter" to work. When it doesn't they aren't happy.
Unfortunately, they also want to be able to install any and everything on it. For that, they currently need Windows in order to do it easily.
I think everyone goes through that phase. I know 10 years ago I installed lots of different things just to try them out. Once people get used to using just specific programs (just email, browser, IM, etc.) then people will truely not care what OS something is running. At that time Linux, MAC, or anything else can be their "'puter". They don't really care.
Dog might taste good. I don't know. But I do know that it's probably a good thing that our society is conditioned the way that it is. I don't know the history behind it.
I do know that I lived in a smaller city once that had some new immigrants move in. People's pets started dissapearing. And that is probably the reason why it is so frowned on here. It's one thing for the supermarket to carry "dog". It's another when $500 "Fluffy" ends up missing.
Okay, I don't really "code" but I do write scripts. They too should be commented. I prefer to put the date and my initials in the comment as well as what changes or additions that I have made. I usually comment at the top of the script then make a place marker by the section that was modified.
But, I must admit that the ultimate comment is the name of the file/script itself.
If it is a script that the boss made me write, then I'm screwed so I name it the obvious like "scriptbossmademewritethatdoesthisandthat". But, on the other hand, if it's a script that I wrote to make my life easier (and this is important) do not name it something obvious that will draw attention to itself, cause questions to be raised, etc. Name it something that will make sense to yourself and not your enim...err... boss.
For example instead of name naming it "findpayrollfile" name it "whereiswaldo"? BTW I actually did this.
...may be off topic, but what I want is the ability to select to record a program from a TV commercial on my DVR instead of having to wait until about 2 weeks before it begins to air.
This could be somewhat like the pay-per-view commercials that I've seen that allow you to subscribe or select an event.
FWIW - I currently use a DishPVR. I'm not trying to start a debate though.
To me that would be more useful than any kind of online link, etc.
Just face it, the average user is going to keep using Windows, IE, and keep getting spyware.
The cost of getting spyware removed is one thing at around $129 but the real "cost" is having to leave the PC to be repaired and going without. Perhaps a great business model would be to just let lusers "trade in" their infected PC for another PC at, say, $129 or even more if you can get them to upgrade to better LCD monitor or other accessories.
Then the infected PC can get cleaned and resold to someone else with an infected machine. Maybe even the original owner.
I must say, that I worked in a UAW auto parts manufacturing plant for about 8 months right out of high school. There were some electritians that seemed to "have it made" so I decided to go to college and get a degree. Many thousands of dollars in debt later as well as years of lost earnings and tons of crappy jobs I eventually got a job and worked my way up to be a systems administrator.
After doing that work for about 9 years I found myself really hating my job that I really could not escape. I was on call, getting calls from all types of lusers at all times of the day and night. You know the drill.
My point is that doing the menial labor was mindless but I used the time to think of what I would do when I wasn't at work. And when I wasn't at work I got to forget about work and enjoy life. Of course the grass looked greener to me but once I got on the "other side" I noticed that the additional wages was actually just enough to pay the student loans. So basically the pay was nearly a "wash".
Also, I didn't might sweating in a factory, but in a business environment there is always someone that is "too cold" and so I was always too hot. Probably because I was moving around, moving equipment, etc. so I was sweating just as much but it was more noticable because I didn't want to be sweating.
Anyway, and was I bored in this new job? Yes, because running commands, doing upgrades, etc. all required approval. Then most of the work seemed to require working after hours. Could I take off during the day if I was going to come in later? Not usually. Only problem with being bored was that I couldn't think about all the cool things I would do when I "got off from work" because in this new, "better" job I never really seemed to ever get off from work.
Don't worry, I quit and do not work in I.T. any more.
I wish I would have kept my factory job. Live and learn.
No joke. As a former 12th level OS/400 fighter slash 7th level AIX thief slash various level multiple application mage that post really made my day as I sit here in my new profession as a shopkeeper NPC in the pet shop biz.
I had grown tired of adding new "hats" to my collection and playing the corporate red-tape game to find a new job.
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The first version won't be too bad. The variants will be much worse when someone Super Sizes it.
Maybe their plan is to hire all the well-respected people in the industry so that it's harder to hate them. j/k
As a DeVry Institute of Technology graduate (1991 before they changed their name to "University") I can say that for me it appeared as if DeVry was grooming me to fill a position at a local company.
I went to the Kansas City location and most of the people I knew ended up getting temp-to-hire jobs at Sprint (we were Telecommunications majors). I did not want to work there so I had a much harder time finding employment.
You might already know or can check around to see if your DeVry is doing something similar. If so, then you can get your foot in the door, prove yourself, then do well at the company. Otherwise you will be unemployeed within about 6 months to a year.
I ended up working as a systems administrator at a local hospital where another employee (programmer/analyst) was a DeVry grad and another analyst was a Keller Management grad (affiliated with DeVry). We were all competent at various levels and were respected by most of the people I knew although one manager I knew did bash DeVry on a regular basis. I don't think he even knew that the three of us had been educated there.
Anyway, I believe that DeVry has a better overall reputation within the cities that it has campuses. Mainly because employers have had more experience with the graduates.
It's good to try to get a tech related part-time job before graduation and/or a very good senior project to help gain some impressive experience for future resume/interview material.
Just like any school, some people were born to do tech and some people were not and the big companies know it. Just like when Sprint hired the DeVry grads through the temp-to-hire third party company you'll have to stand out from the rest of the DeVry or non-DeVry candidates. Surely any HR person will know that.
But will it go to 11?
I'd like to list "First Post" as my name.
...if the school is going to press felony charges against kids for playing with technology that they gave to the kids (with taxpayer money) then they need to realize this kind of stuff is going to happen.
What's next? Pressing charges against kids for writing in text books? Sueing kids for looking at the answers to math problems in the back of the book?
School officials need to "grow up" and realize that kids will be kids. Deal with it and *teach* them the errors of their ways (if even that) within the walls of the school. Not the court room or judicial system.
Sheesh...
You make some good points. I'd also like to point out that some people such as myself buy MBs that have a good rep with the overclocking croud even though I do not overclock. They seem to make for very solid PCs that have outlasted by far any mass marketed PC I've ever bought.
So, let the tweakers do the tweaking if they so desire. Otherwise leave them alone. BTW I usually buy ASUS boards.
My calculator is solar powered. Thus, changing Pi to 3 would indeed save daylight as well.
I don't know what scares me more, that the chips have been developed and are being promoted or that the general public will probably believe that it's a good idea.
Agreed. Most users think of the PC as an appliance. They just want their "'puter" to work. When it doesn't they aren't happy.
Unfortunately, they also want to be able to install any and everything on it. For that, they currently need Windows in order to do it easily.
I think everyone goes through that phase. I know 10 years ago I installed lots of different things just to try them out. Once people get used to using just specific programs (just email, browser, IM, etc.) then people will truely not care what OS something is running. At that time Linux, MAC, or anything else can be their "'puter". They don't really care.
Dog might taste good. I don't know. But I do know that it's probably a good thing that our society is conditioned the way that it is. I don't know the history behind it.
I do know that I lived in a smaller city once that had some new immigrants move in. People's pets started dissapearing. And that is probably the reason why it is so frowned on here. It's one thing for the supermarket to carry "dog". It's another when $500 "Fluffy" ends up missing.
Even worse a terrier.
Okay, I don't really "code" but I do write scripts. They too should be commented. I prefer to put the date and my initials in the comment as well as what changes or additions that I have made. I usually comment at the top of the script then make a place marker by the section that was modified.
But, I must admit that the ultimate comment is the name of the file/script itself.
If it is a script that the boss made me write, then I'm screwed so I name it the obvious like "scriptbossmademewritethatdoesthisandthat". But, on the other hand, if it's a script that I wrote to make my life easier (and this is important) do not name it something obvious that will draw attention to itself, cause questions to be raised, etc. Name it something that will make sense to yourself and not your enim...err... boss.
For example instead of name naming it "findpayrollfile" name it "whereiswaldo"? BTW I actually did this.
... now that we have TiVo?
Mass Nerder The Descendents
Door games RULE(d)!
I really liked TradeWars. Guess now I have to play it in a window online.
...may be off topic, but what I want is the ability to select to record a program from a TV commercial on my DVR instead of having to wait until about 2 weeks before it begins to air.
This could be somewhat like the pay-per-view commercials that I've seen that allow you to subscribe or select an event.
FWIW - I currently use a DishPVR. I'm not trying to start a debate though.
To me that would be more useful than any kind of online link, etc.
Just face it, the average user is going to keep using Windows, IE, and keep getting spyware.
The cost of getting spyware removed is one thing at around $129 but the real "cost" is having to leave the PC to be repaired and going without. Perhaps a great business model would be to just let lusers "trade in" their infected PC for another PC at, say, $129 or even more if you can get them to upgrade to better LCD monitor or other accessories.
Then the infected PC can get cleaned and resold to someone else with an infected machine. Maybe even the original owner.
Great. Now some luser will break a nail and it will be our fault.
At least she might be hot.
I must say, that I worked in a UAW auto parts manufacturing plant for about 8 months right out of high school. There were some electritians that seemed to "have it made" so I decided to go to college and get a degree. Many thousands of dollars in debt later as well as years of lost earnings and tons of crappy jobs I eventually got a job and worked my way up to be a systems administrator. After doing that work for about 9 years I found myself really hating my job that I really could not escape. I was on call, getting calls from all types of lusers at all times of the day and night. You know the drill. My point is that doing the menial labor was mindless but I used the time to think of what I would do when I wasn't at work. And when I wasn't at work I got to forget about work and enjoy life. Of course the grass looked greener to me but once I got on the "other side" I noticed that the additional wages was actually just enough to pay the student loans. So basically the pay was nearly a "wash". Also, I didn't might sweating in a factory, but in a business environment there is always someone that is "too cold" and so I was always too hot. Probably because I was moving around, moving equipment, etc. so I was sweating just as much but it was more noticable because I didn't want to be sweating. Anyway, and was I bored in this new job? Yes, because running commands, doing upgrades, etc. all required approval. Then most of the work seemed to require working after hours. Could I take off during the day if I was going to come in later? Not usually. Only problem with being bored was that I couldn't think about all the cool things I would do when I "got off from work" because in this new, "better" job I never really seemed to ever get off from work. Don't worry, I quit and do not work in I.T. any more. I wish I would have kept my factory job. Live and learn.
No joke. As a former 12th level OS/400 fighter slash 7th level AIX thief slash various level multiple application mage that post really made my day as I sit here in my new profession as a shopkeeper NPC in the pet shop biz. I had grown tired of adding new "hats" to my collection and playing the corporate red-tape game to find a new job.
Buck Rogers?