Presently it is only an assumption that lives will be saved. And they intend to test that with your life and mine. And everything must slow down when you take human driving out of the driving environment. How will business like that? How will YOU like that when it takes longer to get anywhere?
Sure they will. But if you naively think that there will be no machine-caused deaths then you fail to live in reality. And machine-caused deaths, allowed by law and government are not the same as deaths caused by humans who can feel remorse and guilt and are subject to legal punishment personally. It devalues humans and strips them of their connection to other humans to turn driving over to machines and to indemnify they against responsibility by making it a "sue the company" kind of thing. Companies don't care. And we know that they make decisions to repair or not repair critical faults with their cars according to which path is the most expensive to take. If the cost of being sued is less than the cost of fixing the problem they will, and have let people die. That is long established. It is business. And the saving of lives is an assumption that they intend to test with your life and mine. Not only that, but self-driving cars of sufficient numbers will slow down everything because they have to conform strictly to the legal speed limits to limit corporate exposure. It is a fundamental change in the way we think about human life to LET machines kill people. Legislatures, corrupted by corporate money, will let them do that too.
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana. And what organization or group is responsible for this Slashdot post?
The complexity of life continues to grow with every "good and nice and necessary" addition to our lives that demands attention and interaction and troubleshooting.
It is inevitable that they pass laws allowing machines to kill x number of people. It can be no other way. And that will be a major devaluing of human life.
Engineers fail to take into account human factors and respect the way things have evolved over time. It will be the same with self-driving cars and vehicles. There are the laws of the road, and then there are the human laws of the road - and they are not the same. You can program in fixed laws, but you cannot account for the understandings and accepted abnormal behaviors of people in software.
..a woman lurking in the background of this somewhere. He's getting in touch with his feelings. Unfortunately, the most aggressively creative males have not been historically.
The facility may have been infiltrated by foreign spies by way of New Mexico State University and no doubt its globalist, humanist, diversity related philosophy that sees no difference between and American and a Chinese or a Russian or who-knows-what enemy of the United States. It was pointed out elsewhere that the White Sands missile testing area could be monitored from there. Why contact the FBI if it is a mere police issue? Why contact the FBI if it is an illegal alien related issue? If it is a drugs issue maybe local sheriffs would not be trusted and the FBI contacted instead. Time will tell. But until this is cleared up by authorities I'm going with spying.
Wait until Google starts censoring what can be seen and said in the West to satisfy their capitalist greed for the next dollar. Maybe it is happening right now. If their Communist masters are not turning the screws on Google now, they will. Don't doubt it.
Google and Facebook should seriously consider "kill buttons" for various parts of the world or countries. When doing business there becomes too onerous they should just hit the button and remove service there. Let the governments deal with their citizens over it.
This can never be accomplished because it is all the result of the inborn, 4 billion years evolved, Human Motivation Array. The HMA is what makes us human and that is far, far, too complex to replicate in software, even using AI. You say it can develop it like it develops understanding of games, or images. Nope, all the motivations are working at the same time. All the motivations make claim to our behavior at the same time. It is an incredible thing that it works as it does in the human being. AI is not going to replicate the billions of years of compromises and balancings that occurred over such a time. I've been thinking about what I call "Artificial Motivation" (the missing part of "Artificial Intelligence" and "androids" since the 1980s) (I'm not a researcher), but it just isn't possible.
Agree. Perceptive. Brutal, not breathless view of life. There should be some kind of "conservation of impact" law in operation saying you cannot just change technologies and all of a sudden the balancing "bad" for the "good" you get is gone. It just changes to something else. No technological free lunches. If global warming from carbon dioxide were to go away tomorrow, something else equal in negative impact would take its place.
Blah, blah de blahblahtechblah blah. More "gee, look what massive advances we are making," tech babble that seems to signify nothing. Just what can it actually do with that? And is it doing it? Probably not. I wait with bated breath for the next "advance."
...that we aren't actually a country. All we are is a container for corporations. The veneer is coming off, being discarded shamelessly. No one even pretends anymore.
I was wondering if this kind of system could be used to enable admin access. Admin access would be enabled remotely from a Microsoft server using two factor authorization, say, and no malware would be able to access admin privileges as this would be the only way to escalate. Made robust, it would destroy malware ability to take over machines by escalation of privileges. It could be a feature across all users, or, an enterprise addition for a fee with the purpose of increasing security for critical systems.
Machines are right, humans are wrong and responsible for their own deaths and injuries. I submit that these crashes occur because these machines do not act according to the real human rules of the road. Nobody actually studies the "social and psychological environment of driving," in my opinion. People do a very complex dance when driving that goes by complex human perceptions, rules, and expectations. It is a daily conspiracy to break the law with the purpose of getting to one's destination as quickly and safely as possible. Machines are not humans and never will be. Therefore the large autonomous car companies must diminish humans and their enormous abilities and make the standard the simplistic machine understandings and abilities. And these machines must be getting back-ended because they are missing some human understanding or accepted and expected behavior. It is NEVER the human's fault.
I seldom have anything good to say about that hyper-liberal state, but here they are correct. If net neutrality goes, expect the telecoms to skim the profit off of every single internet company that exists while doing nothing themselves. The ultimate rent-seekers.
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Presently it is only an assumption that lives will be saved. And they intend to test that with your life and mine. And everything must slow down when you take human driving out of the driving environment. How will business like that? How will YOU like that when it takes longer to get anywhere?
Sure they will. But if you naively think that there will be no machine-caused deaths then you fail to live in reality. And machine-caused deaths, allowed by law and government are not the same as deaths caused by humans who can feel remorse and guilt and are subject to legal punishment personally. It devalues humans and strips them of their connection to other humans to turn driving over to machines and to indemnify they against responsibility by making it a "sue the company" kind of thing. Companies don't care. And we know that they make decisions to repair or not repair critical faults with their cars according to which path is the most expensive to take. If the cost of being sued is less than the cost of fixing the problem they will, and have let people die. That is long established. It is business. And the saving of lives is an assumption that they intend to test with your life and mine. Not only that, but self-driving cars of sufficient numbers will slow down everything because they have to conform strictly to the legal speed limits to limit corporate exposure. It is a fundamental change in the way we think about human life to LET machines kill people. Legislatures, corrupted by corporate money, will let them do that too.
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana. And what organization or group is responsible for this Slashdot post?
Actually "looking" at the development of "muscle memory."
The complexity of life continues to grow with every "good and nice and necessary" addition to our lives that demands attention and interaction and troubleshooting.
It is inevitable that they pass laws allowing machines to kill x number of people. It can be no other way. And that will be a major devaluing of human life.
They should use evolution feedback to continuously respond to bacteria that are developing immunity to antibiotics.
Haven't the Japanese learned a thing about space since the 1950s?
Engineers fail to take into account human factors and respect the way things have evolved over time. It will be the same with self-driving cars and vehicles. There are the laws of the road, and then there are the human laws of the road - and they are not the same. You can program in fixed laws, but you cannot account for the understandings and accepted abnormal behaviors of people in software.
The complexity collapse is advancing nicely I see. Now add something on top of DRM. Let's hit the accelerator.
...that a software community should try to make of people a piece of software. Good luck with the debugging.
..a woman lurking in the background of this somewhere. He's getting in touch with his feelings. Unfortunately, the most aggressively creative males have not been historically.
This is just a company telling consumers what they want instead of asking them what they need.
The facility may have been infiltrated by foreign spies by way of New Mexico State University and no doubt its globalist, humanist, diversity related philosophy that sees no difference between and American and a Chinese or a Russian or who-knows-what enemy of the United States. It was pointed out elsewhere that the White Sands missile testing area could be monitored from there. Why contact the FBI if it is a mere police issue? Why contact the FBI if it is an illegal alien related issue? If it is a drugs issue maybe local sheriffs would not be trusted and the FBI contacted instead. Time will tell. But until this is cleared up by authorities I'm going with spying.
Wait until Google starts censoring what can be seen and said in the West to satisfy their capitalist greed for the next dollar. Maybe it is happening right now. If their Communist masters are not turning the screws on Google now, they will. Don't doubt it.
Google and Facebook should seriously consider "kill buttons" for various parts of the world or countries. When doing business there becomes too onerous they should just hit the button and remove service there. Let the governments deal with their citizens over it.
This can never be accomplished because it is all the result of the inborn, 4 billion years evolved, Human Motivation Array. The HMA is what makes us human and that is far, far, too complex to replicate in software, even using AI. You say it can develop it like it develops understanding of games, or images. Nope, all the motivations are working at the same time. All the motivations make claim to our behavior at the same time. It is an incredible thing that it works as it does in the human being. AI is not going to replicate the billions of years of compromises and balancings that occurred over such a time. I've been thinking about what I call "Artificial Motivation" (the missing part of "Artificial Intelligence" and "androids" since the 1980s) (I'm not a researcher), but it just isn't possible.
Agree. Perceptive. Brutal, not breathless view of life. There should be some kind of "conservation of impact" law in operation saying you cannot just change technologies and all of a sudden the balancing "bad" for the "good" you get is gone. It just changes to something else. No technological free lunches. If global warming from carbon dioxide were to go away tomorrow, something else equal in negative impact would take its place.
Blah, blah de blahblahtechblah blah. More "gee, look what massive advances we are making," tech babble that seems to signify nothing. Just what can it actually do with that? And is it doing it? Probably not. I wait with bated breath for the next "advance."
...that we aren't actually a country. All we are is a container for corporations. The veneer is coming off, being discarded shamelessly. No one even pretends anymore.
I was wondering if this kind of system could be used to enable admin access. Admin access would be enabled remotely from a Microsoft server using two factor authorization, say, and no malware would be able to access admin privileges as this would be the only way to escalate. Made robust, it would destroy malware ability to take over machines by escalation of privileges. It could be a feature across all users, or, an enterprise addition for a fee with the purpose of increasing security for critical systems.
Machines are right, humans are wrong and responsible for their own deaths and injuries. I submit that these crashes occur because these machines do not act according to the real human rules of the road. Nobody actually studies the "social and psychological environment of driving," in my opinion. People do a very complex dance when driving that goes by complex human perceptions, rules, and expectations. It is a daily conspiracy to break the law with the purpose of getting to one's destination as quickly and safely as possible. Machines are not humans and never will be. Therefore the large autonomous car companies must diminish humans and their enormous abilities and make the standard the simplistic machine understandings and abilities. And these machines must be getting back-ended because they are missing some human understanding or accepted and expected behavior. It is NEVER the human's fault.
I seldom have anything good to say about that hyper-liberal state, but here they are correct. If net neutrality goes, expect the telecoms to skim the profit off of every single internet company that exists while doing nothing themselves. The ultimate rent-seekers.
Why aren't vital services like this getting free unlimited, unthrottled service by law?
This is just space shuttle thinking applied once again. You ok a thing because you want to do a thing. That's all. Wait for the disasters.