I've had plenty of parts I had to junk because they weren't compatible. I hate having to do so much fucking research whenever some new wizbang card or chipset, etc comes out, just to make sure its works with debian stable.
I want to buy a box with say, an IDE raid for the disk subsystem. I want it to work with debian stable. How do I findout without either buying blind or spending 5 hours diging through usenet posts?
You'd be surprised how many times I've said "wow this is a great 1U box, but the onboard network* is not compatible, so if I were buy it the one PCI slot is taken up for networking, so its fucking useless to me because I need that slot for something else!" (voicetronix card or rocketport, etc)
*or raid card, etc
anybody who creates, approvedhardwarefordebianstable.org will get a shitload of paypal donations from me....
So what happens when 2/3rds do something so shit-assed the other 1/3rd walks? If it aint broke don't fix it.
Also, just why is this hatred of the non-free archive so damn intense? I maybe could understand it back when non-free was really needed pre mozilla, and other vital programs and so the use of non-free programs by users was assured.
Then I could see this getting stuck in peoples craw. But now non-free is hardly needed by most people, and is a light burden on debian that helps some users very much.
Frankly hating non-free has always been a moronic resource waster in my opinion. Back in 2.1, 2.0, and before, after installing debian, the first thing I would do is download (from debian's servers) and install NETSCAPE. They would not include netscape on the CD to spite its non-free-ness, yet then everyone would immediately waste bandwidth and time downloading the damn thing, BECAUSE IT WAS VITALLY NEEDED at the time.
Its purtianism for puritanism sake, which is terrible.
Yes it is annoying but you all do it. Bwahahaha! Soon you will have to get a tatoo at the Security Center Microsoft products of the future will be sold at. Then everytime you boot your computer, you will have to hold up your special tatoo over a barcode type reader, that will scan you and make sure you are the owner of the OS.
Soon, all big applications will also require their own tatoo, starting up word, scan a tattoo. Heck, maybe there are lots of people using your computer, they didn't pay a license did they? That will be a crime and at random points your computer will demand you hold up your tatto and be scanned. If you fail to do so within a prescribed time, it will turn itself off, or certain programs will no longer function.
You will accept that too, because you are all sheep! In the end, you will become the human veal of the future, tied down, so you don't get tough, and when bill gates or dick chenney wants some human flesh to eat, or needs to absorb more souls/life force to allow him continue to live, you will be killed and noone will be able to stop them.
Soon, your tatto will be required to open your front door, not from the outside, but the inside!
I had to do these very steps to get a better VM and a new IDE (a driver that let me use DMA) driver for a machine at work. In order to get that box functioning, I basically had to make it "un-upgradeable". Therefore when support runs out in December, I will have to either:
a) re-image it, and reconfigure everything on it (at which point I should just buy Advanced Workstation, right?) b) upgrade packages by hand c) twiddle with up2date's config so that it think it's a newer release d) done nothing, switch distros, hope, use apt4rpm, etc.
You wil be forced to do something. Red Hat has decided it.
oooooh you so bad! Stick it to The stallMan, yeah baby, burst his little bubble. That's a powerful guy you're taking about, are sure you can survive the onslaught of his revenge? Really brave man.I mean he could like have you banned from being hired at this one computer lab in boston, maybe if he really raised a stink about it, maybe. Rough stuff dude! Power to the People Oppressed by RMS and the Evil GPL! Yeah, dude you're talking Truth to Power! Gosh you are so brave, you risktaker you!
how the fuck do they update their IPs? I think they could just pass a law forcing nominet to register the domain for free. Fuck 'em, all registers are fucking cocksuckers anyway.
Maybe the bootfloppies are hard for the developers to maintain; however, the boot-floppies are a wonderful installation system. By far the best I've ever seen.
I can install it over a networked terminal server, on netras (they don't have video hardware) etc. It very flexiable and quite easy for both newbs (maybe not for windows-user/mandrake-wannabees) and for experts.
If you require a GUI installer, then maybe you need to rethink your use of linux. Maybe mandrake or Suse newbies can just barely make it though an lame and horrifically insecure install with the help of a GUI, but then if that is the result, then what is the point? Go back to windows.
Star Office might be a bit bloated when running it on some old, slow 2nd or 3rd hand machine on which you've installed linux for shits and giggles. But these are new machines, so even if they are budget celeron, duron, etc they will have plenty of cycles and RAM to make Star Office a pleasure.
Like they say the Best Pleasures in Life Are Free.
Imagine, a bunch of lame slashdottirs bitchin about somebody using too many numbers and symbols. What a crock of shit.
Slashdot Fucking Sucks.
I know lets relicense QT, that will show 'em
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Ian Geiser: It time to take a more agressive stance on packageing so we can keep some control how KDE looks.
Yeah Lets force themes on the fuckers!
Roberto Alsina: Red Hat puts Red Hat icons on the desntop, that take you to the Red Hat site, a Red Hat icon from where you start all apps, and generally puts that silly guy with the hat everywhere. Branding.
Gee a redhat distro having links to Redhat, how evil and dishonest!
To find out what's new in Debian 3.0, see the Release Notes for your architecture:
* Release Notes for Alpha
* Release Notes for ARM
* Release Notes for HP PA-RISC
* Release Notes for Intel x86
* Release Notes for Intel IA-64
* Release Notes for Motorola 680x0
* Release Notes for MIPS
* Release Notes for MIPS (DEC)
* Release Notes for PowerPC
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I've had plenty of parts I had to junk because they weren't compatible. I hate having to do so much fucking research whenever some new wizbang card or chipset, etc comes out, just to make sure its works with debian stable.
I want to buy a box with say, an IDE raid for the disk subsystem. I want it to work with debian stable. How do I findout without either buying blind or spending 5 hours diging through usenet posts?
You'd be surprised how many times I've said "wow this is a great 1U box, but the onboard network* is not compatible, so if I were buy it the one PCI slot is taken up for networking, so its fucking useless to me because I need that slot for something else!" (voicetronix card or rocketport, etc)
*or raid card, etc
anybody who creates, approvedhardwarefordebianstable.org will get a shitload of paypal donations from me....
The only secure OS microsoft ever made was dos, but only when running without a floppydrive, harddrive, modem, parallel or serial ports....
No wait I think maybe Xenix for the TRS Model 16..... pre-networking....
So what happens when 2/3rds do something so shit-assed the other 1/3rd walks? If it aint broke don't fix it.
Also, just why is this hatred of the non-free archive so damn intense? I maybe could understand it back when non-free was really needed pre mozilla, and other vital programs and so the use of non-free programs by users was assured.
Then I could see this getting stuck in peoples craw. But now non-free is hardly needed by most people, and is a light burden on debian that helps some users very much.
Frankly hating non-free has always been a moronic resource waster in my opinion. Back in 2.1, 2.0, and before, after installing debian, the first thing I would do is download (from debian's servers) and install NETSCAPE. They would not include netscape on the CD to spite its non-free-ness, yet then everyone would immediately waste bandwidth and time downloading the damn thing, BECAUSE IT WAS VITALLY NEEDED at the time.
Its purtianism for puritanism sake, which is terrible.
Yes it is annoying but you all do it. Bwahahaha! Soon you will have to get a tatoo at the Security Center Microsoft products of the future will be sold at. Then everytime you boot your computer, you will have to hold up your special tatoo over a barcode type reader, that will scan you and make sure you are the owner of the OS.
Soon, all big applications will also require their own tatoo, starting up word, scan a tattoo. Heck, maybe there are lots of people using your computer, they didn't pay a license did they? That will be a crime and at random points your computer will demand you hold up your tatto and be scanned. If you fail to do so within a prescribed time, it will turn itself off, or certain programs will no longer function.
You will accept that too, because you are all sheep! In the end, you will become the human veal of the future, tied down, so you don't get tough, and when bill gates or dick chenney wants some human flesh to eat, or needs to absorb more souls/life force to allow him continue to live, you will be killed and noone will be able to stop them.
Soon, your tatto will be required to open your front door, not from the outside, but the inside!
Yeah lets rename it the freedomveyor! Goddamn frogs!
Because the MPAA and RIAA are mobster ripoff thieves, who just want more money!
The Matrix sucked, is stupid, fucking moronic. Keanu is a ffffffffucking douchebag. If you like them you are gay. G. A. Y. Gay!
Only laptop losers like APCI, and firewire is for poofters.
I'll do it for 10 bucks.
I love old hardware!
I had to do these very steps to get a better VM and a new IDE (a driver that let me use DMA) driver for a machine at work. In order to get that box functioning, I basically had to make it "un-upgradeable". Therefore when support runs out in December, I will have to either:
a) re-image it, and reconfigure everything on it (at which point I should just buy Advanced Workstation, right?)
b) upgrade packages by hand
c) twiddle with up2date's config so that it think it's a newer release
d) done nothing, switch distros, hope, use apt4rpm, etc.
You wil be forced to do something. Red Hat has decided it.
Or you could just (apt-)get debian.
oooooh you so bad! Stick it to The stallMan, yeah baby, burst his little bubble. That's a powerful guy you're taking about, are sure you can survive the onslaught of his revenge? Really brave man.I mean he could like have you banned from being hired at this one computer lab in boston, maybe if he really raised a stink about it, maybe. Rough stuff dude! Power to the People Oppressed by RMS and the Evil GPL! Yeah, dude you're talking Truth to Power! Gosh you are so brave, you risktaker you!
how the fuck do they update their IPs? I think they could just pass a law forcing nominet to register the domain for free. Fuck 'em, all registers are fucking cocksuckers anyway.
Has anyone ever bought an ebook? I never have and fucking never will. Ever. Period.
Maybe the bootfloppies are hard for the developers to maintain; however, the boot-floppies are a wonderful installation system. By far the best I've ever seen.
I can install it over a networked terminal server, on netras (they don't have video hardware) etc. It very flexiable and quite easy for both newbs (maybe not for windows-user/mandrake-wannabees) and for experts.
If you require a GUI installer, then maybe you need to rethink your use of linux. Maybe mandrake or Suse newbies can just barely make it though an lame and horrifically insecure install with the help of a GUI, but then if that is the result, then what is the point? Go back to windows.
Or better yet, learn a thing or two!
Star Office might be a bit bloated when running it on some old, slow 2nd or 3rd hand machine on which you've installed linux for shits and giggles. But these are new machines, so even if they are budget celeron, duron, etc they will have plenty of cycles and RAM to make Star Office a pleasure.
Like they say the Best Pleasures in Life Are Free.
Microsoft is Evil.
And Slashdot pretty much sucks and is boring!
Is that because he is a sheep?
Slashdot fucking sucks now!
Imagine, a bunch of lame slashdottirs bitchin about somebody using too many numbers and symbols. What a crock of shit.
Slashdot Fucking Sucks.
Ian Geiser: It time to take a more agressive stance on packageing so we can keep some control how KDE looks.
Yeah Lets force themes on the fuckers!
Roberto Alsina: Red Hat puts Red Hat icons on the desntop, that take you to the Red Hat site, a Red Hat icon from where you start all apps, and generally puts that silly guy with the hat everywhere. Branding.
Gee a redhat distro having links to Redhat, how evil and dishonest!
I know lets relicense QT, that will show 'em
Reminds me of debian GNU/Linux!
Slashdot sucks! I hope it gets kidnapped, raped and left for dead the shoulder of some dark highway.
Slashdot Sucks!
Slashdot SUX here is proof!
Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 -- Release Notes
To find out what's new in Debian 3.0, see the Release Notes for your architecture:
* Release Notes for Alpha
* Release Notes for ARM
* Release Notes for HP PA-RISC
* Release Notes for Intel x86
* Release Notes for Intel IA-64
* Release Notes for Motorola 680x0
* Release Notes for MIPS
* Release Notes for MIPS (DEC)
* Release Notes for PowerPC
* Release Notes for IBM S/390
* Release Notes for SPARC
Fuck KDE3, you stupid fucking asswipe!