I can't say anything for or against Rayman, having not played it.
But Monkey Ball does have 50 multiplayer mini games, which are all enjoyable to varying extents, depending on who you are. The majority are 4 player, but some (~5) are two player, and some don't use the nunchuk, so if you're strapped for cash and only have the wiimote, you're not all lost. It also has a single-player game (also using just the wiimote) which has the potential to make a grown man cry with its insanely difficult later levels, and will definitely level up your fine motor control ability. But in a good way, because you know they are able to be beaten and that they've been playtested to death to be sure that there's guaranteed to be a sliver of hope, no matter how small, that you can indeed beat the level. There are even two hidden worlds of 8 levels each that can be unlocked only after beating each world with no continues.
I vote Monkey Ball. I got Zelda and Monkey Ball and they've served me well.
Why was this modded "troll"? It sounds like an objective nutshell of Nintendo's game release pattern.
I am also a Nintendo fanboy, and it's something I would say. It's not derogatory, it's just stating that QA is responsible for the long waits past a provided announcement date, which often results in a largely superior game. Twilight Princess is case-in-point. They use their time well.
I mean, I talked to a Game Stop guy in my area and he recommended strongly against anywhere preordering, whether it was GS/EB or anywhere else. That, along with recollection of the 360 fiasco, was more than enough for me. Curiously, I haven't found anywhere else in my area who is doing the preordering thing. I suppose they're just a glutton for punishment.
And now I am going to be camping in front of Circuit City from Tuesday until Sunday. In a tent. Woo!
My friend and I have been planning to camp out since September. We are going to camp out in front of the Best Buy in Tukwila, WA.
I've spent at least 30 min on the phone with the local branch as well as corporate, and the local branch was saying that they've been bugging their property management company enough that they finally agreed to send out a official bulletin to Best Buy about what is and is not allowed (logistics and all that).
I am so jazzed.
I got the week off of work, there's a Costco about 5 minutes away, we're going to start the day with grilling free hot dogs and burgers for whomever, just to get some positive faction with "Best Buy Employees" and "General Public". ("Well done, Jinky! I expected nothing less!" **fanfare**)
But yeah. So we won't know final details until the 10th. But we're set for the week. My friend has to work, but he works about 5 minutes away, so we're good, there.
Anyone in the aforementioned area who's planning on spawn camping as well? It's a rare drop. Level 60 Jink LFG.
Actually, it's been my understanding that it wasn't because they were somehow trying to build their way to heaven, but rather because they were going against the edict of God to go forth into the corners of the world and prosper and instead vying to stay in one place. He then frustrated all communications efforts, not just those associated with building the tower, so that people would congregate with like languages and scuttle off to their own corner.
The God of the Bible would feel not threatened in the least, I think, by humans dorking around and trying to build a heavenscraper.
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz - $49.99 (yes, Monkey Ball. Awesome single player action, as well as 50 minigames that make innovative use of the wiimote and nunchuck). The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - $59.99 Metroid Prime 3: Corruption - $59.99 Excite Truck - $59.99 Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers - $59.99 (I am dubious about this being a release game, simply because I haven't seen much of anything on it).
These are the games that I'm most excited about. And if those don't do it for you, recall that there are going to be 30 games (at least) available at launch in their "back catalogue" of games from the NES, SNES, N64, TurboGrafx 16 and the Sega Genesis (and I think Atari 2600, but that could be just rumor).
Personally, I and a friend are so jazzed about the Wii that we're going to be camping in front of Best Buy (in Tukwila, WA if anyone cares) for the week prior to the Wii release (12NOV - 19NOV). In a tent. With a grill. I am taking vacation time off for it.
This is really the first release of anything that I've been excited enough for to even wait in a long line, much less prepare to camp outside for a week.
But it's more than just the Wii, though. It's the prospect of doing something looney like this, of getting the attention, possible media coverage. We may well be the only people there until midweek. But you know, being first in line to get the Wii will be a fun thing to claim.
On the topic of pre-orders, I wouldn't trust any. I've just heard too many stories about there being too many pre-orders handed out and the stores being unable to honor the pre-order.
"Also in the interest of safety, do not try to feed the bears. They've all eaten the red mushroom and found the flower already. Bears with fireballs SUCK."
"the wii is just a slightly higher clocked gamecube with a minimal ram and memory card upgrade"
That statement by itself has no value, as Wii processing power has already been officially released for some time, now.
However, if you are implying that to accurately assess the value of a gaming system is to base it purely on its technical specs or a "dollars/PPM (polygons pushed/minute)" comparison, go buy a PC and be done with it.
But you know and I know that processing speed alone does not a gaming console make. Please, do some reasearch. Check out http://wii.ign.com/articles/733/733464p1.html for a run down of the things that the Wii, by itself, will be able to do. Not your cup of tea? That's great--it's a free country--don't buy it.
"...plus new gimmick controller."
A "gimmick" has an understanding (at least in our culture) as being something that services only a small, shallow niche purpose, usually designed to be the "hook" used to draw people to use or purchase a product, but is largely irrelevant to the utilization of saids product. Or even perhaps something that just ends up having relatively limited application but was not designed with that in mind. Good Nintendo examples of this are the Power Glove (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Glove) and U-Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-Force). These devices were created in the traditional Nintendo spirit of radically changing the way people interface with video games. Unfortunately, technology was not up to the task of manifesting their visions in a way that captured public interest (or even in a way that worked). They both had one or two games that showcased its ability. The Power Glove had gloveball, the U-Force had Mike Tyson's Punch Out!. These accessories were developed with every intention of being a commercial success, but ultimately flopped.
However, the Wii remote (or wiimote, the de facto name) does not have such limited application. It was developed as the prime way for a user to interface with the Wii. Any number of articles written by people who have used the wiimote have greatly impressed with its application to not only games that would be logical for such an accessory (like the simple Wii Sports suite, or Monkeyball, or racing games), but also to games like Madden Football, Metroid Prime, even Twilight Princess. An unprecidently-large number of developers can't wait to make games that take advantage of the unique interaction that the Wii offers. Even Playstation caught on enough to add limited motion-sensing technology to their controller. And moreover, the Wii has been so wildly successful in foraging ahead in heretofor largely untapped game interface possibilities that both Sony and Microsoft have publically encouraged people who buy their new consoles to buy the Wii as well because it compliments their system so well. What better advertising do you need than that your former direct competitors are now saying that not only is your system pretty cool, but that you should buy it in addition to theirs.
"thats why they can churn them out at such high volume, its old and simple tech theyre already familiar with."
I am missing where that makes this a bad thing.
"theres no way im paying $250 for this thing, and the only thing revolutionary about the controller is the ridiculous $60 price tag it carries."
Check your figures. The wiimote is $39 (wii.ign.com, www.wiiprice.com). Also coming in at $39 is the Xbox 360 controller.
Xbox 360: Force feedback, 12 buttons (X,A,B,Y, back, start, L trigger+bumper, R trigger+bumper), 2 analog sticks and a d-pad; wireless via Bluetooth. Wiimote: 7 buttons (On/off power switch, D-Pad, A and B buttons, 1 and 2 buttons, home, plus and minus buttons), digital rumble (only 1 setting, on or off), speaker, 4k memory, built-in accelerometer and other motion detection hardware to judge motion, pitch, tilt and depth inside a 3D space. Wi
I remember liking the Castlevania 2 book the best, though I also read Bionic Commando and Wizards and Warriors. But I remember reading all three of them repeatedly.
Good fun, even if they did go astray from the game's plot once in a while. They were still much more fidelous than many of the movie remakes, today.
DeadCatX2: And just because big third parties aren't frothing at the mouth doesn't mean anything. I'm FAR more interested in titles like Sadness. These less-known developers are going to take risks that you won't see any big third party developer take.
Agreed. And the SDK (development kit) will only be $2,000USD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Revolution) , whereas the PS2 SDK was $20,000 at time of launch (same website), which will allow indie developers with considerably less venture capital to develop games and allow them to take more risks with innovative and different ideas. Yes, there will likely be tons of crap out there because of the bar being lowered, but the market will take care of that.
I'm looking forward to the variety of games that will come forth for the Wii.
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I can't say anything for or against Rayman, having not played it.
But Monkey Ball does have 50 multiplayer mini games, which are all enjoyable to varying extents, depending on who you are. The majority are 4 player, but some (~5) are two player, and some don't use the nunchuk, so if you're strapped for cash and only have the wiimote, you're not all lost. It also has a single-player game (also using just the wiimote) which has the potential to make a grown man cry with its insanely difficult later levels, and will definitely level up your fine motor control ability. But in a good way, because you know they are able to be beaten and that they've been playtested to death to be sure that there's guaranteed to be a sliver of hope, no matter how small, that you can indeed beat the level. There are even two hidden worlds of 8 levels each that can be unlocked only after beating each world with no continues.
I vote Monkey Ball. I got Zelda and Monkey Ball and they've served me well.
Why was this modded "troll"? It sounds like an objective nutshell of Nintendo's game release pattern.
I am also a Nintendo fanboy, and it's something I would say. It's not derogatory, it's just stating that QA is responsible for the long waits past a provided announcement date, which often results in a largely superior game. Twilight Princess is case-in-point. They use their time well.
Enough said.
I mean, I talked to a Game Stop guy in my area and he recommended strongly against anywhere preordering, whether it was GS/EB or anywhere else. That, along with recollection of the 360 fiasco, was more than enough for me. Curiously, I haven't found anywhere else in my area who is doing the preordering thing. I suppose they're just a glutton for punishment.
And now I am going to be camping in front of Circuit City from Tuesday until Sunday. In a tent. Woo!
I second that. Great definition.
Agreed.
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My friend and I have been planning to camp out since September. We are going to camp out in front of the Best Buy in Tukwila, WA.
I've spent at least 30 min on the phone with the local branch as well as corporate, and the local branch was saying that they've been bugging their property management company enough that they finally agreed to send out a official bulletin to Best Buy about what is and is not allowed (logistics and all that).
I am so jazzed.
I got the week off of work, there's a Costco about 5 minutes away, we're going to start the day with grilling free hot dogs and burgers for whomever, just to get some positive faction with "Best Buy Employees" and "General Public". ("Well done, Jinky! I expected nothing less!" **fanfare**)
But yeah. So we won't know final details until the 10th. But we're set for the week. My friend has to work, but he works about 5 minutes away, so we're good, there.
Anyone in the aforementioned area who's planning on spawn camping as well? It's a rare drop. Level 60 Jink LFG.
How to Win Friends and Influence People
W00t! Sega Master System!
No one that I know of even knows what that is. Heck, they didn't know what it was back when it was still commercially available.
"I got a Sega Master System!"
"...You mean Genesis?"
"No, Master System."
"...oh."
That got a solid "LOL" out of me. Thanks!
It also sounds like something I might find on VG Cats.
Actually, it's been my understanding that it wasn't because they were somehow trying to build their way to heaven, but rather because they were going against the edict of God to go forth into the corners of the world and prosper and instead vying to stay in one place. He then frustrated all communications efforts, not just those associated with building the tower, so that people would congregate with like languages and scuttle off to their own corner.
The God of the Bible would feel not threatened in the least, I think, by humans dorking around and trying to build a heavenscraper.
"build a uClibc based gentoo system in a chroot."
When I read this, I snickered uncontrollably.
That is all.
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz - $49.99 (yes, Monkey Ball. Awesome single player action, as well as 50 minigames that make innovative use of the wiimote and nunchuck).
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - $59.99
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption - $59.99
Excite Truck - $59.99
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers - $59.99 (I am dubious about this being a release game, simply because I haven't seen much of anything on it).
These are the games that I'm most excited about. And if those don't do it for you, recall that there are going to be 30 games (at least) available at launch in their "back catalogue" of games from the NES, SNES, N64, TurboGrafx 16 and the Sega Genesis (and I think Atari 2600, but that could be just rumor).
Personally, I and a friend are so jazzed about the Wii that we're going to be camping in front of Best Buy (in Tukwila, WA if anyone cares) for the week prior to the Wii release (12NOV - 19NOV). In a tent. With a grill. I am taking vacation time off for it.
This is really the first release of anything that I've been excited enough for to even wait in a long line, much less prepare to camp outside for a week.
But it's more than just the Wii, though. It's the prospect of doing something looney like this, of getting the attention, possible media coverage. We may well be the only people there until midweek. But you know, being first in line to get the Wii will be a fun thing to claim.
On the topic of pre-orders, I wouldn't trust any. I've just heard too many stories about there being too many pre-orders handed out and the stores being unable to honor the pre-order.
Well, my friend and I are going to "camp out" in front of Best Buy for the week prior to the Wii's release.
"Also in the interest of safety, do not try to feed the bears. They've all eaten the red mushroom and found the flower already. Bears with fireballs SUCK."
Very insightful.
"the wii is just a slightly higher clocked gamecube with a minimal ram and memory card upgrade"
That statement by itself has no value, as Wii processing power has already been officially released for some time, now.
However, if you are implying that to accurately assess the value of a gaming system is to base it purely on its technical specs or a "dollars/PPM (polygons pushed/minute)" comparison, go buy a PC and be done with it.
But you know and I know that processing speed alone does not a gaming console make. Please, do some reasearch. Check out http://wii.ign.com/articles/733/733464p1.html for a run down of the things that the Wii, by itself, will be able to do. Not your cup of tea? That's great--it's a free country--don't buy it.
"...plus new gimmick controller."
A "gimmick" has an understanding (at least in our culture) as being something that services only a small, shallow niche purpose, usually designed to be the "hook" used to draw people to use or purchase a product, but is largely irrelevant to the utilization of saids product. Or even perhaps something that just ends up having relatively limited application but was not designed with that in mind. Good Nintendo examples of this are the Power Glove (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Glove) and U-Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-Force). These devices were created in the traditional Nintendo spirit of radically changing the way people interface with video games. Unfortunately, technology was not up to the task of manifesting their visions in a way that captured public interest (or even in a way that worked). They both had one or two games that showcased its ability. The Power Glove had gloveball, the U-Force had Mike Tyson's Punch Out!. These accessories were developed with every intention of being a commercial success, but ultimately flopped.
However, the Wii remote (or wiimote, the de facto name) does not have such limited application. It was developed as the prime way for a user to interface with the Wii. Any number of articles written by people who have used the wiimote have greatly impressed with its application to not only games that would be logical for such an accessory (like the simple Wii Sports suite, or Monkeyball, or racing games), but also to games like Madden Football, Metroid Prime, even Twilight Princess. An unprecidently-large number of developers can't wait to make games that take advantage of the unique interaction that the Wii offers. Even Playstation caught on enough to add limited motion-sensing technology to their controller. And moreover, the Wii has been so wildly successful in foraging ahead in heretofor largely untapped game interface possibilities that both Sony and Microsoft have publically encouraged people who buy their new consoles to buy the Wii as well because it compliments their system so well. What better advertising do you need than that your former direct competitors are now saying that not only is your system pretty cool, but that you should buy it in addition to theirs.
"thats why they can churn them out at such high volume, its old and simple tech theyre already familiar with."
I am missing where that makes this a bad thing.
"theres no way im paying $250 for this thing, and the only thing revolutionary about the controller is the ridiculous $60 price tag it carries." Check your figures. The wiimote is $39 (wii.ign.com, www.wiiprice.com). Also coming in at $39 is the Xbox 360 controller.
Xbox 360: Force feedback, 12 buttons (X,A,B,Y, back, start, L trigger+bumper, R trigger+bumper), 2 analog sticks and a d-pad; wireless via Bluetooth.
Wiimote: 7 buttons (On/off power switch, D-Pad, A and B buttons, 1 and 2 buttons, home, plus and minus buttons), digital rumble (only 1 setting, on or off), speaker, 4k memory, built-in accelerometer and other motion detection hardware to judge motion, pitch, tilt and depth inside a 3D space. Wi
That got a snicker out of me. +1
Good call. Why wasn't this post modded higher? I think "3 or 4, insightful".
I remember liking the Castlevania 2 book the best, though I also read Bionic Commando and Wizards and Warriors. But I remember reading all three of them repeatedly. Good fun, even if they did go astray from the game's plot once in a while. They were still much more fidelous than many of the movie remakes, today.