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The Netherlands is in comparison pretty socialist, and it has a below average infection of malware, and you can smoke pot legally, and it has an above average IQ of 102!

(source for last statement: http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm )

Woo!

I suggest you check (or at least list) your sources. There has been a long running internet hoax regarding this exact topic.

The best source I have makes a good faith attempt to estimate average IQs by state from SAT and ACT scores. However, as you can imagine that isn't exactly definitive. It also lists the methodology for how the results were arrived at.

The original numbers, made by someone trying to claim that states that vote for one political party over another are smarter (in this case liberals though I've heard of conservative claims as well), has been debunked repeatedly. Frankly, it is a sad state of affairs when people have to make up lies in order to further their political or ideological viewpoint.

If you're interested, the US Census keeps records on education attainment level by ethnicity as well.

I suggest you check (or at least list) your sources. There has been a long running internet hoax regarding this exact topic.

The best source I have makes a good faith attempt to estimate average IQs by state from SAT and ACT scores. However, as you can imagine that isn't exactly definitive. It also lists the methodology for how the results were arrived at.

The original numbers, made by someone trying to claim that states that vote for one political party over another are smarter (in this case liberals though I've heard of conservative claims as well), has been debunked repeatedly. Frankly, it is a sad state of affairs when people have to make up lies in order to further their political or ideological viewpoint.

If you're interested, the US Census keeps records on education attainment level by ethnicity as well.

How is intelligence measured by this? Is it based on the time it takes to complete? You could argue that quick thinking and problem solving skills* come from a level of education (although you could argue that's why those people went into higher education). Vision, the processing of images, the speed at which you do it can all change between cultures because of environmental factors. E.g. People in American-type cultures are more likely to be able to see optical illusions because they live in a society with many sharp edges and lines (in the built environment). Cultural differences.

Also, I don't know much about Raven's Matrices but the example you gave only tests spatial, it doesn't necessarily mean intelligence just because you're able to figure out a visual puzzle in a certain time, what about maths, verbal? Which was the basis of criticism for gender variances in IQ tests, they were mostly tests using maths and strategy questions. Boys are brought up to play games such as computer games and with toy soldiers, which can increase certain skills. Whereas girls are brought up being taught how to talk, to be social, as they play tea party games or with dolls, they develop skills in communication/language/learning grammatical skills. There are many other reasons for gender differences.

"And many tests, such as Raven's Progressive Matrices, have nothing to do with education level either."

SO this is really a test that tests innate intelligence? really? So education/learning can't help to develop quick thinking or problem solving or visual recognition? How do you determine something is innate intelligence or a learned skill?

I could go on all day but it already reminds me of why I quit psychology, too many variables in the world. Intelligence can be subjective, you might say that going into education and getting a good job is intelligent, the search for knowledge is intelligent, but you might say that it is intelligent if at 16 you start popping out the kids, you get your own house for free, benefits, and you don't have to work. Apart from bringing up the kids, but hey if you're the intelligent evil type then you'll probably not put too much effort into this. Although you also have the debate of wether you have to be moral to be intelligent, perhaps enlightenment of good could be considered as intelligence, perhaps you have enlightenment of evil, it could be that it's intelligent if you can beat the system. You might say intelligent people join the army, but you might say stupid people join the army, too many points of view. One more example, I always do a spell check on my work because I was taught to do this, it's a clever thing to do, even though my spelling may be terrible, it was intelligent to use something to put right my mistakes.

USA is the third happiest country in the world
http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationHappiness.htm

Here's a link with some data about IQ scores and GDPs of various nations.

http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm

wikipedia has the same data here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_ IQ#Estimates_of_other_countries

In general, countries formed from Asian immigrants have high IQs. Particularly Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Singapore. Hong Kong's average of 107 is number one in the world. Asian Americans also have very high average IQs. Scores are also quite decent in Japan and S. Korea. However IQ averages accross large asian countries such as China and India are about equal to those of the average North American or European. Interestingly, the group documented with the highest average IQ is Jewish Americans. I've seen studies putting that average at an astounding 113. Interestingly the average IQ of Jewish people in Isreal is only 94. Maybe some argument can be made that only more intelligent people were able to successfully immigrate out of China to HK or the US, giving the US an unbalanced racial IQ make up. It would stand to reason that the really smart Jews from Europe would have been in New York during the holocaust. Most of those living in Isreal now are decended from those who did NOT get out of Europe in time. Meanwhile the barriers for Mexicans coming to the US haven't been nearly so high, so perhaps there isn't much IQ selective pressure on those immigrant communities. Same thing would go for Africans caught by slavers a couple of hundred years ago.

Just my 2 cents.

Where did these numbers come from?

Yet disturbingly....
http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm

It's a well known hoax that started in 2000 with Gore and that was updated in 2004 with Kerry's name. People seem to believe anything they see on the internet.

... there are enough people in the "heartland" who aren't familiar enough with the Internet to know better.

That's absurd, especially considering they are the most educated people in the country.

the "verified" sheet still doesn't make a great advertisement for bush. top half looks pretty blue, bottom half looks very red.

those of us in the blue parts already knew this, though. those of you in the red, quit breeding, you're breaking the world.

Seems to be a hoax.

Yea I mean those morons probably also buy into Internet Hoaxes and pass them off as proof that they are correct..

Have not seen a legitimate one for 2004, but this has 2000
Thier are some spreading around for 2004 but all they did was take one of the liberal hoax ones from 2000 and change the states around, and false number are still used.

Check the author's sources. They prove it's a hoax that started in 2000.

That pages uses www.chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm as a source. It'll redirect you to attenuation.net/files/iq.htm. From there, you can find www.sq.4mg.com/IQschools.htm which has estimates for state IQ based on ACT/SAT tests. You'll notice that the IQs are much more evenly distributed. If you follow his link to http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQ-States.htm, you'll see links at the bottom to the unverified hoax IQ scores used in your chart. Someone simply updated the 2000 Gore/Bush chart for 2004.

Check the author's sources. They prove it's a hoax that started in 2000.

That pages uses www.chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm as a source. It'll redirect you to attenuation.net/files/iq.htm. From there, you can find www.sq.4mg.com/IQschools.htm which has estimates for state IQ based on ACT/SAT tests. You'll notice that the IQs are much more evenly distributed. If you follow his link to http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQ-States.htm, you'll see links at the bottom to the unverified hoax IQ scores used in your chart. Someone simply updated the 2000 Gore/Bush chart for 2004.

Check the author's sources. They prove it's a hoax that started in 2000.

That pages uses www.chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm as a source. It'll redirect you to attenuation.net/files/iq.htm. From there, you can find www.sq.4mg.com/IQschools.htm which has estimates for state IQ based on ACT/SAT tests. You'll notice that the IQs are much more evenly distributed. If you follow his link to http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQ-States.htm, you'll see links at the bottom to the unverified hoax IQ scores used in your chart. Someone simply updated the 2000 Gore/Bush chart for 2004.

ROFLMAO
Someone pulled this liberal lie from the Bush/Gore election and changed it to this election. At least they could of included the false salary numbers also.
If you want some true numbers(also from Bush/Gore election check here
Theses are the top ten, have not changed for Bush/kerry election.
IQ and states Income/ person 2000 vote
(alphabetically by IQ) in 2003* %Rep-Dem

New Hampshire 104IQ 34,702 Bush
Oregon 103IQ $29,340 Gore
Massachusetts 103IQ $39,815 Gore
Wisconsin 103IQ $30,898 Gore
Colorado 102IQ $34,238 Bush
Connecticut 102IQ 43,173 Gore
Illinois 102IQ $33,590 Gore
Iowa 102IQ $29,043 Gore

Neither is Bush, For all that to be blunt 120-125 IQ does NOT impress me at all; I've TAed math classes in university where that apparently qualifies as below average...and when I think of the bottom half of my classes...oi.

Now please give me back the 20 minutes of my life I just wasted on searching Google.

Yes, this chart is made up; however if you use real data, you do get something that looks similar, if not so distorted.

Kerry on top, Bush at the bottom, middle is a mish-mash.

Although not as funny as the .png.

that's an hoax

The IQ's below cannot be verified, and have become a well publicized Internet hoax.
http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQstates.htm

here is the real data:
http://www.sq.4mg.com/stateIQ-income.htm

that's an hoax

The IQ's below cannot be verified, and have become a well publicized Internet hoax.
http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQstates.htm

here is the real data:
http://www.sq.4mg.com/stateIQ-income.htm

Roses are #FF0000, violets are #0000FF, all my base are belong to you

Violets are closer to #8000FF.

I suppose I should try and move ontopic-ish and link to the original chart which is credited at the bottom of the image, and show that it links to this set of IQ data which lists Mississippi's average IQ as 95, not 85.

It should also be noted that these are based on school children's tests (grades 4, 8, and 10 if I'm not mistaken) and not on actual voters.

The best part is: "The IQ numbers were originally attributed to the book "IQ and the Wealth of Nations", though they do not appear in the current edition." In other words, the numbers in that chart are basically unverifiable.

Average IQs:

Hong Kong 107 Korea, South 106 Japan 105 Taiwan 104 Singapore 104 Austria 102 Germany 102 Italy 102 Netherlands 102 Sweden 101 Switzerland 101 Belgium 100 China 100 New Zealand 100 U. Kingdom 100 Hungary 99 Poland 99 Australia 98 Denmark 98 France 98 Norway 98 United States 98 Canada 97 Czech Republic 97 Finland 97 Spain 97 Argentina 96 Russia 96 Slovakia 96 Uruguay 96 Portugal 95 Slovenia 95 Israel 94 Romania 94 Bulgaria 93 Ireland 93 Greece 92 Malaysia 92 Thailand 91 Croatia 90 Peru 90 Turkey 90 Colombia 89 Indonesia 89 Suriname 89 Brazil 87 Iraq 87 Mexico 87 Samoa (Western) 87 Tonga 87 Lebanon 86 Philippines 86 Cuba 85 Morocco 85 Fiji 84 Iran 84 Marshall Islands 84 Puerto Rico 84 Egypt 83 India 81 Ecuador 80 Guatemala 79 Barbados 78 Nepal 78 Qatar 78 Zambia 77 Congo (Brazz) 73 Uganda 73 Jamaica 72 Kenya 72 South Africa 72 Sudan 72 Tanzania 72 Ghana 71 Nigeria 67 Guinea 66 Zimbabwe 66 Congo (Zaire) 65 Sierra Leone 64 Ethiopia 63 Guinea 59

Maybe the fact that South Korea has the highest IQ of any soverign nation has something to do with their success. It would seem so if the book "IQ and the Wealth of Nations" is correct about the correlation between average IQ of a nation and its per capita wealth generation capacity.

Prior Art!

Oh wait, this isn't about patents ... n/m!

Bill Gates just made the Adam Osborne mistake. He announced "WinFX", whatever that is, as the improvement to .NET. Now a significant number of people will wait for WinFX, and Microsoft will lose the profits it would have had from those who wait.

Adam Osborne's company made an early personal computer. Adam announced a new model long before it was ready. Sales stopped because everyone wanted to wait for the new model. Adam's company went bankrupt.

It was amazing watching the bankrupting of the company on TV at the time. Osborne's company went from being one of the fastest growing to having insufficient money for operations in about two months.

It was a sobering lesson. Computer companies sometimes die extremely fast. Novell, WordPerfect, Corel, Fifth Generation Systems, and Central Point are examples. There are many others.

Microsoft has not been managed well. The company survives and profits because of having a virtual monopoly on operating systems and on office suite file formats. Think about it, suppose someone had a monopoly on water. That person could soon be much richer than Bill Gates.

For most businesses, the free Open Office is all they need. There are significant benefits to Open Office. It is much less quirky than Microsoft Office, for example. Most people are not very observant about the software they use, and they hardly notice the difference between Microsoft Word and the Open Office word processor.

Right now, many businesses use software that runs only under Microsoft Windows. However, there are many desktops that only need software that is already available for Linux. Those can benefit from the increased stability of Linux.

People don't care about the cost of Windows. The cost is only a few dollars of the cost of the computers they buy. The biggest issue against Microsoft is its adversarial behavior toward its customers. Using Linux means never having to say "My operating system company is partly my enemy."

Microsoft is on the way down. Most people don't realize that yet, however. Microsoft is one of the biggest management failures the world has ever seen. If the company could make a few changes in its behavior, it could stay profitable. However, it seems that abusiveness is more important to Microsoft than money.

Note that WinFX is someone else's trademark. WinFX is the most cracked and cheated program I have ever seen. There are 50 times as many links to cheats as there are to the product!

Microsoft has scheduled an MSDN TV program about "WinFX" for November 6 (Subject to change by Microsoft, of course.)

Microsoft claims that WinFX is their trademark. (The link is to a Google conversion of a .DOC file to HTML.)

Microsoft has a history of picking inappropriate trademarks. "X" means unknown. It was inappropriate to use the letter X in conjunction with "Xbox" and "ActiveX". Aside from being someone else's trademark, WinFX sounds too trivial for use with an extensive programming product. Traditionally, "FX" has been used to signify "effects".

Yeah, keep it up and we'll all end up listening to shortwave!

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My Ghod!!! We must stop this software trafficking menace before rival gangs of software companies start doing drive-bys in Silly-con Valley with nerf-guns!

Society MUST be protected!!!

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If you want some different icons try over at The Chromezone. Actually they haven't updated the page in a while, but the newer icons are up at my page.

I made some icons for Mozilla if you want some. The old ones are at http://www.mozillazine.org/chrome/icon s.html. Newer ones can be found at http://au.4mg.com/moz.htm.

Funny tips on memorizing pi to 100 decimal places: http://au.4mg.com/pi.htm

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Mirror of the original english version.
Mahir's story.

7) Someone claiming to be you starts roaming the Web making wild claims. You want to make sure people know it isn't really you.

By now, most of you have probably seen the incredibly virulent 'I kiss you' page. The interesting thing is that the page was an unauthorized copy of one from Turkey, and it ended up getting over a million hits in 3 days. Mahir's strange story is here .