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I don't think implanted RFID tags will ever be popular either to employees or employers particularly in cultures that place some value on privacy and personal rights. (I understand the Air Force of Singapore recently placed an order with Applied Digital Solutions). But is this a problem for most of the free world? Can you imagine what it must be like to be a sales rep? "Say... do you need a microchip implanted at the base of your skull so we can track you in our database?" I just don't see the appeal.

Kiss your remaining freedoms goodbye.

What are you talking about? This is not some huge circuit board they're talking about implanting in people, it's a tiny sliver of platic and metal far less than the size of a dime; http://www.adsx.com/prodservpart/graphics/verichip .jpg. These costs you're talking about won't be any more than a prick in the arm and a minimal charge, especially if you have health insurance. This isn't major surgery or anything. From a Wired magazine article: "The rice-size device costs $200. Those implanted must also pay for the doctor's injection fee and a monthly $10 database maintenance charge, said ADS spokesman Matthew Cossolotto." (http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,55999,00 .html) If this is a govornment-backed movement, then the price would be even less than that, as no doubt the database they are talking about would be govornment-maintained, so we're talking about a $200 initial fee, plus an injection fee (note "injection," not "expensive surgery"), all of which would likely be subsidied by the govornment, so pretty much a minimal cost to the end user. I mean, I can understand being freaked out by the idea, but there's no need to be alarmist. -Julius

Another alternative is the implantable RFID microchip: VeriChip".

Check out the VeriChip FAQ. Also, the ars technica story has some great Bruce Schneier material on the Bush administration's idea for RFID passports.

See this or this more more information.

Also, buy the stock (ADSX) ;) Went up over 75% today, over 20% in afterhours, and they are saying this is just the beginning........

Also, buy MEDICAL SOFTWARE COMPANIES that embrace the technology............

See this about some clubs in Europe who are already using it to control VIP access and patrons payments for drinks.....

Then of course there's the whole "Walmart Effect" on RFID.

1. Anticipate the Apocalypse
2. ???
3. Profit!

PS. Once you make all that money, buy GOLD.

It seems like they are using VeriChip rfid-chips.
(Reminds me of some other Veri**** named company..)

Brochure (pdf)

Seems like there are no public key/private key type security features in the chip.
I wonder how they expect it to be secure against copying..

It seems like they are using VeriChip rfid-chips.
(Reminds me of some other Veri**** named company..)

Brochure (pdf)

Seems like there are no public key/private key type security features in the chip.
I wonder how they expect it to be secure against copying..

Chipping has already been started. But don't confuse it with the governments increasing security: it would be something that you voluntarily accept, because it would be cool (at least young kids will).

RFID is here and it will obviously continue to grow, as there are numerous advantages to both business and consumer.

What's more, we will see (probably in our lifetime), the government mandating RFID chips implanted in every person - ie- the famed "mark of the beast" in Revelation.

Just imagine another 9-11 style attack, except this next one will be a small suitcase nuke. One attack, destroying a large portion of a major US city, and the clamour for "SECURITY" will outweigh all our demands for "privacy rights".

The feds will argue that they must be able to track what we buy and sell, in order to prevent terrorism. No simpler way to do that than to require everyone be implanted with a biochip, in order to buy or sell.

Check out the technology at:

Applied Digital Solutions

Kiss your privacy goodbye thanks to... You

Wired magazine
02:00 AM Oct. 23, 2002 PDT

A surprise decision by the Food and Drug Administration permits the use of implantable ID chips in humans, despite an FDA investigator's recent public reservations about the devices.

The FDA sent chip manufacturer Applied Digital Solutions a letter stating that the agency would not regulate the VeriChip if it was used for "security, financial and personal identification or safety applications," ADS said Tuesday.

But the FDA has not determined whether the controversial chip can be used for medical purposes, including linking to medical databases, the company added...

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Since 1996, Mr. Reid has served as president of Strategic Sciences, a Washington, D.C.-area consulting firm that specializes in marketing advanced technologies to the federal government. Mr. Reid has particular expertise in selling new, introductory technologies to government agencies, including the Departments of Defense (DoD), Energy (DoE) and State, as well as the agencies that have been incorporated into the Department of Homeland Security. (source)

Just think if they decided to do away with Social Security, or made this a standard for newer borns a-la vaccinations... Oh well that's why I'm glad I support the war on terror

and all I want is dependable 911 access. 911 is a joke

Dude, just go hardcore and implant your family with Verichip, or Digital Angel. 'INSERT catchy_slogan_thing INTO POST FROM SUBJECT WHERE NAME LIKE missedperception'; "Forget 911 go private consumer based ultra neeto protection. Fun for the cattle and dogs, and now the whole family!"

This will establish the RFID readers at point of sale that will eventually serve VeriPay or something like it. Ummm... yikes.

... gave me quite a turn. Also the slogan "Get Chipped!". Compare the logo in the PDF to that of Broken Saints. The logo in BS represents, among other things, another chip which is implanted in people for supposedly good purposes...

Now this is so cool its scary because of the types of abuses that can occur with the chip. Now reason for bringing this up? BOP, and DOD were looking at the chip. DoD as a method of replacing dotags, BOP (Bureau of Prisons...? Puzzling considering these chips are implantable.

Sex offenders? They should have something like this, but at the same time they shouldn't. If they've done their time, they should go through a vigorous psyche exam before being released. Why punish them twice if they've served their time. Now I think they're the biggest scum on earth, but at the same time you can't have your cake and eat it too...

What? The chip to replace the Social Security card? Scary thought... but in a way freakishly cool...

Workaround: "Hey Sandy, if you carry my tag to English today, I'll carry yours on Thursday."

Not true when it's implanted under your skin, al la Verichip I wonder how long before this catches on nationwide, let alone accepted. People are stupid. Sometimes it get to the point it's sickening. In the words of chicken little 'The sky is falling! The sky is falling!'

1) You have the right to question the vendor of a product your buying and determine whether or not you want this.
2) No one is making this a standard it is a company doing what they want, so I don't see the big hoorah around this
3) It might actually come in handy considering if someone were kidnapped, this could be a possible method of determining their whereabouts.

Sure there are pros and cons behind this, but it isn't anything new. Now if this were any longer I would rant on about Applied Digital Solutions' Digital Angel product, and how the DOJ is looking into using them in the future.

That is truly newsworthy. Besides one could set up their own triangulator to do the same thing if they really wanted to track you. Expensive yea, but it's doable without going through some company

sweet, with any luck they can add the information to my VeriChip(TM)!

Mike

an AC wrote Probably recharges induction-style kinda like a lot of electric toothbrushes (I know the Sonicare brush is like this). If you've got a coil in your charger and a similarly tuned coil in the device, you can have a transformer even if there's a little material in the way.


which is exactly what the article says.

which also implies that unless they've built a self reseting circuit breaker into the pacemaker sized device, it would be trivial to knock it out with a big ass alternating magnetic field.

heck, the physics lab at school and a few components from your local amplifier/stereo/music shop could probably knock one up in about 1/2 an hour if you had access to the right teachers cabinets.

Damn. A world where only stoner guitarists and their nerdy friends are free....

Applied Digital Solutions makes implantable RFID capsules..

I see it more as like this:

FIRST, the capsules will be used in livestock. (already done)

SECOND, the capsules will be implanted into companion pets (done)

THIRD, they will be put into every suitcase and you will have to have a registered suitcase to take stuff on a plane.

FOURTH, they will put a mini-transmitter into a football and use it to show exactly where the ball is on the field at any given time, thus removing all questionable calls at the goal line.

FIFTH, they will put GPS enabled capsules in all of the things they already have them in--pets, etc.

Imagine, the airport says they lost your bag; you log into a website, slide your card that came with the suitcase, and it shows you the exact location on earth (within a few meters) of where it is.

Or your pet. Or your car keys. Or a piece of mail, a package, a shipping container.

Perhaps then the law will realize they want to know where the pedophile is at any given time.

Then, people will just get them implanted into their grandparents with alzheimer's.

Then, maybe their children.

Then, it's done.

As soon as digital money becomes secure (from the government's standpoint of monitoring, not from our standpoint of privacy), we're screwed. Why bother keeping cash around (which costs money to make), when eletronic money is, by comparison, practically free.

But anyway, another advance in currency could help the government out, even if they don't opt to do away with cash. Enter plastic currency. Much harder to forge, and could easily be printed with magnetic ink that contained the ID number of the bill, so any time it was withdrawn from a bank or used at a federally registered place of business, it could be scanned and processed.

Millions upon millions of digital transactions are processed every day. There's no reason to think that doing the same for cash transactions would be a particularly overwhelming task, especially if the system were properly distributed.

Also, some people think that giving trackable cash to another person will throw the system out of whack because now the money wouldn't correspond to the original receiver. The government is perfectly aware that the average number of hands any single bill goes through before being spent at a tracking point is pretty small. If you loan someone ten bucks, chances are they'll spend it, not give it to someone else. So the government not only knows who you are and where you shop, but to whom you loan money. Now if something suspicious goes on, they can track your network of acquaintances, too. This is a BONUS for them, not a complication.

Think this is wild, what about the family down in south Florida that got CHIPED with the ADSX chips that hold your medical records. They also have batteries that suck the heat away from your body to produce energy to run. Within the they believe they will have GPS in them. All this in a chip the size of a piece of rice. They are putting them in everything from Dogs to Cattle, and people are next....Lost your kid? Here, that little rug rat is on your handy dandy webpage, via gps...

Anyway, as much big brother as this screams I think parents are going to jump all over the Applied Digital Solutions chip. It is just a matter of time.

Slashdot rated your comment as funny. What makes it unfunny is the following:

First, the effort to "verify the identity of online buyers" is something that Verichipalso would like to do, but under your skin.

Second, lest you think that Microsoft and Verichip are unrelated, Microsoft and Digital Angel (another similar device owned by the same company, ADSX) have reached an agreement to use Microsoft MapPoint for GPS mapping.

Based on the previous pattern of Microsoft behavior in other unrelated markets, this is what I see: Microsoft is sidling up to an interesting technology and integrating its efforts in a pseudo-friendly way. Their real objective however is to determine the future marketability of the technology and if there is any, swallow it whole. Look for Microsoft Passport to be integrated with Verichip technology for the ultimate secure user verification, possibly offered exclusively in combination with Palladium.

How do you like them apples? Now, the question is, will Slashdot bury this post?

Slashdot rated your comment as funny. What makes it unfunny is the following:

First, the effort to "verify the identity of online buyers" is something that Verichipalso would like to do, but under your skin.

Second, lest you think that Microsoft and Verichip are unrelated, Microsoft and Digital Angel (another similar device owned by the same company, ADSX) have reached an agreement to use Microsoft MapPoint for GPS mapping.

Based on the previous pattern of Microsoft behavior in other unrelated markets, this is what I see: Microsoft is sidling up to an interesting technology and integrating its efforts in a pseudo-friendly way. Their real objective however is to determine the future marketability of the technology and if there is any, swallow it whole. Look for Microsoft Passport to be integrated with Verichip technology for the ultimate secure user verification, possibly offered exclusively in combination with Palladium.

How do you like them apples? Now, the question is, will Slashdot bury this post?

Applied Digital Solutions supposedly has this new body heat powered body availible to buy. Pretty cool little device. Supposedly they are going to be supplying it for some new watch that does all kinds of neat stuff like GPS and CDMA..

It's called Thermo-Life. I think it's here.

Well it is written that way on the press release on their website as well.

I thought perhaps it was just a different meaning for "micron" that I had never heard before, but a quick search on google for "micron amps" turns up no relevant references. More than likely, some clueless PR person "corrected" the what the scientists had given him.

Of course, as important as this is you'd think they'd have one of the developers check the final draft of the release, but guess not. Technical illiteracy strikes again.