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One of the security researches is Alex Chiu?

Huh.

http://alexchiu.com/index.htm

Jeez guys, our good friend Alex Chiu has been selling fine magnetic immortality devices as long as I can remember on the internet and now some "harvard scientist" thinks they can get in on poor Alex's action here? What gives!?
 

This guy is living forever because magnets.

And his brother Alex is doing great work on longevity enhancement.

It's just a matter of time before everyone realizes that Alex Chiu is right! :)

Seriously, even worse than this. But I guess that's what they get for flouridation, the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face.

If I don't get a http://www.alexchiu.com/ I don't want it.

Wow... just wow. This page shows some before and after shots of people who've used "Gorgeouspil". Hint to any wannabe market droids out there - don't use a picture taken on halloween as an after shot for your beauty enhancing drug. Seriuosly...

I'm sure this is just a typo of some sort. Surely they meant Alex Chiu, right?

Alex Chiu. But Alex Chiu sucks. I got the page hits I needed and he never sent me the immortality device.

Wait a minute... Didn't Alex Chiu master how to extend longevity years before this guy did?

Have I got a deal for you...

>This is the classic debate between engineers and audiophiles; the engineer determines how a piece of equipment will sound by looking at a schematic, an audiophile determines how a piece of equipment will sound by listening to it.

Sounds like the classic Western vs. New-age Medicine debate: A "Western" doctor figures out a cure through double-blind tests and publishes the results in a medical journal. Then a phamaceutical company makes medicine from the findings. A New-age doctor just tests it on himself (or others), observes the effects, and publishes the results on a website, and usually sells the item as well.

To any audio engineer, Audiophiles are the engineering equivalent of Alex Chiu.

PSST: I hear putting the immortality rings around the power cord on your amplifier makes the sound warmer and deeper. And it extends the life of the tubes!

No! It's This guy!

Join the club, Alex Chiu has been blacklisted by Google for years.

http://www.alexchiu.com/spread.htm

A choice quote:

"Google controls 50% of the world's searches. This famous website is so controversial that it has been banned by the most popular search engine in the world 'Google'. That's right. You cannot find alexchiu.com in Google system. Some very important people don't want you to know about Alex Chiu. Alex Chiu is on more than 30 TV interviews, 250 radio interviews, and in business ever since 1996. Yet AlexChiu.com cannot show up on Google?"

Whoever modded this insightful obviously wears magnetic immortality rings.

They're way too late... This guy already found the cure: http://alexchiu.com/ And now you'll have something else to use your fingers and toes for... I'm getting one of these now! :D

They can make you immortal too!

Top of my new list would be http://www.alexchiu.com/ It has the mystery ingredient -- the 'is this for real' factor. Marvellous stuff.

How on earth did Alex Chiu not make it?

This guy discovered immortality with magnets.

http://www.alexchiu.com/

Damn, they even interviewed him on slashdot.

http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/0 6/07/1421238&mode=nocomment

You should've included an example link:

Bad science is done with poor or no evidence, explains even less than the current theory, and is usually presented to the general public without peer review.

The guy's website reads like any other vaporware marketing scheme. Instead of wasting $750 on this "storage technology", hop on over to Alex Chiu's website, and get yourself some eternal life!

I see a new market for Alex Chiu!

Alex Chiu claims to know how to build a UFO and a Teleporter...

Alex Chiu claims to know how to build a UFO and a Teleporter...

Alex Chiu claims to know how to build a UFO and a Teleporter...

and likewise, alex chiu is "personal science"?

Only if you've not bought some of Alex Chiu's Immortality Rings.

Alex Chiu has beaten you to it already.

And don't forget to wear Alex Chiu's magnetic rings for long life and success in business.
At least Chiu is a paragon of modesty compared to Dude Toyota.

The big problem is the origin of those studies. The second book I mentioned in my previous post does a great job of showing the lengths industries will go through to essentially purchase study results that are favorable to them. Flat-out payoffs, shoddy statistics, very carefully selecting samples that don't exhibit undesired results... it's all an incredible scam.

The rest of us are left with the impression that there is some kind of scientifically legitimate disagreement. There's a difference between valid science and junk science, certainly, but a lot of the junk seems to come from corporate sponsors with a lot of money to lose.

Of course, there's always these guys...

Alex Chiu devlops a ring which grants immortality, homeopathy can preserve the effects of chemicals even when diluted to less than one molecule per world's oceans' worth of water, and scientology can help you get rid of evil body theatens.

Oh, and you've all been educated stupid.

Sheesh, it's one thing to report on out-of-date speculation, and another thing to report on blatent hoaxes. What is this, the Weekly World News?

Well, if you know the right people you can trade virtual currency for real currency

Only because people are stupid enough to buy it. It's like saying that, simply because some people are gullible enough to buy them, Alex Chiu's Immortality Rings have real-world value.

Rob

Looks like Aubrey de Grey is a little too late.

What's the cost of a missile compared to the cost of bringing a warhead to Las Vegas on a truck?

This isn't science. Real scientists have said again and again that the whole missile defense system doesn't work and won't work for the forseeable future, and even if it did work it'd be trivial to defeat and confuse with new missiles. People working for the Pentagon call this "Job Security".

Personaly I think it'd be cheaper and at least as useful to buy everyone in the U.S.A. Alex Chiu's Immortality Rings. Scientists say it doesn't work, but then scientists say there's such thing as Global Warming, so what the hell do they know? They obviously don't care about American lives.

You can already get these, check 'em out here!.

It's actually not true. Disproven here, very interesting.

This completely disproves the article.

Nono! Thats not it, hes going to be reselling "Alex Chui's Immortality Rings!".

Physical immortality is available now people!

and it comes in the form of a referer scam!

Note: This was intended to be funny, and yes these links are all part of the affiliate program to get me free immortality rings!

I can point to references which clearly state that Income Tax is illegal, so you shouldn't pay it, NASA is covering up evidence of life on Mars and that magic rings can grant you immortality. Does that make their claims true?

Don't forget Alex Chiu.

No discussion of the time cube is complete without bringing up our good buddy Alex Chiu.

Magnetic Ring, Chiu 5,989,178

November 23, 1999

A magnetic ring adapted to be worn on the little finger of the hand. The magnetic ring includes a ring and a pair of permanent magnets that extend from the ring. When the magnetic ring is worn on the little finger of the right hand, the pair of permanent magnets are oriented on the top and bottom, respectively, of the little finger, with the South pole of the magnet that is oriented on the top of the little finger generally contacting the top of the little finger, with the North pole of the magnet that is oriented on the top of the little finger in opposition thereto, with the North pole of the magnet that is oriented on the bottom of the little finger generally contacting the bottom of the little finger, and with the South pole of the magnet that is oriented on the bottom of the little finger in opposition thereto. When the magnetic ring is worn on the little finger of the left hand, the position of the polarities of the pair of permanent magnets are reversed from that of the right hand. The magnetic ring can also be made to fit around all the fingers of the hand and all the toes of the foot.

The only way to determine the cause of an effect is via scientific experimentation - a double-blind study with experimental and control groups. We could, for example, take 100 mice, leave 50 in "normal" cages, and put the other 50 in cages near to a broadband EM source. Then, we examine the rate of cancer in each group - if it goes up, then and only then can we say that "electromagnetic radiation (at a certain level) causes cancer in mice, which are similar enough to humans that we can safely say to stay away from EM sources."

There could well be many other reasons for the higher cancer rates reported in the 20th century - in addition to all the reasons you have mentioned, people have started to live much longer; if you die from cholera or typhoid fever at 25, you won't live long enough to die from cancer at 65. Also, the broad penetration of medical care into the working class, as compared to the 19th century, means that deaths which previously had no known cause might now be easily diagnosed as cancer. There are many reasons why reported cancer rates might go up - an actual rise in the cancer rate is only one of them.

Ironically, by the time he'd won patents in 47 countries, the Japanese patent office turned him down on the grounds that "[the invention] couldn' t possibly work" and that somehow he was fabricating the claims.

But a few months later they were forced to recant their decision after the US patent office recognized his invention and gave him the first of two patents. As Minato notes: "How typical of Japan's small-minded bureaucrats that they needed the leadership of the US to accept that my invention was genuine."

He's claiming that the current rubberstamp bureaucracy has proven his ability to violate the laws of physics? If he had some respected independent lab test it, I might start to listen, but for now, his magnets are no more special that these magnets of immortality, which will fail when I roll > 3 on attack with my "Vorpal Blade of Truth"...

There are thousands of people sprinkled over the web who claim to do things with magnets that violate the laws of themodynamics; this guy is just one more.

What? Name one. Oh, wait.

Nevermind. :)

Is it just me, or does http://www.fuellessflight.com/ closely resemble another rather interesting web site which we've seen on /. before?

Well, in any case, you might want to get an Immortality Device before you board one of these things.

If this stuff works off of magnetic signatures, then a magnet can block it, and:

Nobody alerted us to a new use for our Alex Chiu immortality rings!