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That's a new card, and a lot of people don't do upgrades...at...all. To a lot of people spending $150 on something to put IN their computer is something they don't do. External devices are different.

I've got a rev2 GK208-based GT640 myself, 49 watts IIRC. this one:
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeF...

It is NOT listed on EVGA's site, not even in the support section.

And it comes with a shiny new referral link!

Non-referral link.

I remember over a decade ago, when every book and movie review on /. was filled with spammy messages full of referral links. Hope that doesn't happen again.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ...

A lot of us build from our parents work. Some of it we don't, because technology caught up sufficiently to the mainstream. Like, before my father tired, he was working on bleeding edge work with lasers and thermal imaging.

I don't need a ruby rod and flashtube to fire a laser, at some huge gov't expense, and $10,000 (if I remember right) for an infrared thermometer. Now I can get a $20 that does both.

He quite literally had a truck filled with gear that was cooled by liquid nitrogen, to do thermal imaging. I believe the truck was the cheapest component. Instead, I can spend $2,500 for a handheld camera that does much better quality imaging.

There are some things that really don't change much. I do my own work around the house. I work on my own cars. I've built electronics. Some techniques I learned from him. Some I've improved on. If he was still alive, I believe he would be impressed.

it may now be safe to start teaching how to read fraktur / black letter type again or the German speaking nations will miss out entirely on the original books and literature pre 1930 or so.

Lots of peoples have abandoned their publications of earlier eras to obscurity and don't think twice about it, sad as it may be for lovers of books. Ottoman Turkish is completely unintelligible to contemporary Turks, partially because the Arabic script in which it was written was swiftly disposed or and even most educated Turks can't be arsed to learn it and read their heritage. Geoffrey Lewis's The Turkish Language Reform: A Catastrophic Success is a pretty accessible presentation of this phenomenon.

Similarly, Latin-alphabet scripts were created for the minorities of Russia after the October Revolution, and there was an explosion of native-language reading and writing in the 1920s. However, Stalin came along and obliged all minorities to use a Cyrillic-based script, and no one makes an effort to read the Latin-script books that have survived today (athough most were pulped, as paper was scarce at the time of the switch).

Kazakhstan has long toyed with the notion of switching to the Latin alphabet, as Turkey, Turkmenistan, and the Tatar intelligentsia have done, but the prospect of the people being cut off from a century of Kazakh literature gives official circles pause.

And don't forget this: Liberal Fascism available from Amazon.

As I said, you just killed the RC industry.

ALL of my 'UAV's are normal models. I have 1 quad, 3 helis, and one seaplane. The quad needs computer stability control from the start since you can't fly a quad without automatic stabilization and augmentation. The quad started out with an ArduPilot, all my other aircraft have since had them added. They have GPS, compass, barometer, fully automous capabilities, 1 radio for direct digital proportional control, and one telemetry radio that can be used as a backup control those its very course and I'd hate to land the seaplane with it. You can buy any of these aircraft from tower hobbies or heliproz. The autopilot is open source and pre made (what I buy) versions are available from HobbyKing for dirt, though I buy mine from 3d robotics since they actually pay for the development.

They ALL have cameras on them, usually its a Sony ActionCam AS-15 for video, sometimes its an iPhone or other still image camera.

The difference between me being legal and me being illegal ... are the photos for commercial use? If you answer yes, its illegal, if you answer no, I'm legal.

Thats it.

If you were to try and force my RC aircraft to use TCAS ... that requires me to ALSO carry an active radar system ... thanks, you just tripled the cost, added at least an order of magnitude more mass, and 2 orders of magnitude more power requirements, added so much more surface area to the frontal profile that its probably an order of magnitude larger if not 2 orders ... and thats JUST for the radar, that doesn't include the ADS/TCAS transmitters and computers. And fine me a radar system for less than $1k USD. Example: I have this on my boat: http://www.amazon.com/Lowrance... $1200 and its several years old, dome is about twice the diameter of my head and a little higher ... and thats COMPACT!

I predict a low posts count.

The most terrifying book I have ever read is "The Hot Zone" by Richard Preston. http://www.amazon.com/Hot-Zone... If this gets out and goes global, it is THE END of civilization as we know it. I suspect a few more people might be following this than normal.

No ebola, while a very nasty and unpleasant disease isn't a "global killer" for the same reason it is so feared: it kills most* of it's victims and that in a relatively short time. That makes fast spreading of it very unlikely unlike other diseases like variants on the flu. That also makes it possible to contain outbreaks even on a larger scale: at worst a pure isolation of the affected people for some weeks is enough.

(* depending on strain, up to IIRC 90% lethality)

In todays world I can contact a lot of people in two weeks... Even without flying every day. One Liberian ambassadorial aid could really mess some stuff up.

I predict a low posts count.

The most terrifying book I have ever read is "The Hot Zone" by Richard Preston. http://www.amazon.com/Hot-Zone... If this gets out and goes global, it is THE END of civilization as we know it. I suspect a few more people might be following this than normal.

No ebola, while a very nasty and unpleasant disease isn't a "global killer" for the same reason it is so feared: it kills most* of it's victims and that in a relatively short time. That makes fast spreading of it very unlikely unlike other diseases like variants on the flu. That also makes it possible to contain outbreaks even on a larger scale: at worst a pure isolation of the affected people for some weeks is enough.

(* depending on strain, up to IIRC 90% lethality)

By someone else: http://www.amazon.com/The-Diff...

By me on the need for better intelligence tools for the public: http://pcast.ideascale.com/a/d...
http://www.phibetaiota.net/201...

By me on the security clearance process reduces cognitive diversity in three letter agencies: http://www.phibetaiota.net/201...
"This essay discusses how the USA's security clearance process (mainly related to ensuring secrecy) may [ironically] have a counter-productive negative effect on the USA's national security by reducing "cognitive diversity" among security professionals. "

Consider how fast the flue spreads with a faster onset... The only reason it has not gone global is that travel out of the regions with it so far can take a week or more. If you want to have a few sleepless nights, read "The Hot Zone" by Richard Preston. It is a true story of Ebola Rushton... http://www.amazon.com/Hot-Zone...

I predict a low posts count.

The most terrifying book I have ever read is "The Hot Zone" by Richard Preston. http://www.amazon.com/Hot-Zone... If this gets out and goes global, it is THE END of civilization as we know it. I suspect a few more people might be following this than normal.

http://www.google.com/intl/en/...

It turns out they are not that much cheaper though, so I don't really see the value proposition in practice implied by Phil Shapiro since they are not yet $100 and screens still cost money:
"Review: Asus crafts a tiny $179 Chromebox out of cheap, low-power parts"
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets...

I'm surprised Roblimo could miss pointing the Chromebox out, just mentioning the Raspberry Pi. Although he was right to point out the SSD speedup is significant for any small computer.

Another big miss is that for US$50 you can buy an Android Smartphone and use it only with Wi-Fi. Example of what we paid $50 for a few months ago, but now is $31?
http://www.amazon.com/Kyocera-...
"The Kyocera Hydro is sophistication and style in a mainstream Android smartphone that can work for everyone. Plus it offers water-resistance, giving consumers the âoeno-fearâ durability and security they demand. With a 3.5 inch HVGA touchscreen, 3.2 MP camera and video, and Android 4.0, you get the best of all worlds."

Although I would much rather use the Chromebook with a keyboard for making content than trying to use an Android phone. But $30 to be connected with the global internet? That is an amazing realization of many educational technologist's dreams (e.g. Alan Kay Dynabook or OLPC XO-1). And perhaps also some nightmares... See also the 1950s short story by Theodore Sturgeon called "The Skills of Xanadu" on where that all could lead.

My own hopes and predictions from 2000 based in part on seeing the "Cybiko":
"[unrev-II] The DKR hardware I'd like to make..."
http://www.dougengelbart.org/c...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...

Also, I don't see why a teacher or librarian is so keen to limit people's mobility (although it doesn't surprise me, going with the "school is prison" meme).

A big value to my $250 Samsung Chromebook is how light and portable it is. I still use my Quad Core Mac Pro Desktop with three big screens for work and running VirtualBox VMs (and the Chromebook could not replace that, especially the screens) -- used to run Debian for about five years until we (my wife especially) got tired of all the random breakage with every "apt-get dist-upgrade" around 2008 (probably much better now). But I use my Chromebook (with Linux under the covers) for just noodling around or surfing the web and posting on Slashdot sitting in our living room, or doing some light for-fun development work. As I said in another post, I wrote this JavaScript-based information manager tool bootstrapping system entirely on the Chromebook:
https://github.com/pdfernhout/...

Why do I use the Chromebook instead of my desktop (treadmill workstation actually) Mac Pro? Psychological and social, mostly. I gain some distance from my daily paying work by using a different computer in a different place. I also have done it partially as an experiment in learning about the next generation of computing. It's true that our two-year old Macbook Pro is still a much better computer as far as keyboard and screen and CPU and what it can do -- but it is often otherwise in use these days. My wife would always complain about me leaving a lot of tabs open in Firefox. And so on. The Chromebook is more a personal computer just for me. And it was cheap enough that I could justify it as an experiment compared to another $1000-$2500 Macbook.

We did however buy a $1000 Win 8 ASUS laptop a few months ago anyway. What a disappointment as a laptop. Even with a bigger screen and much faster pr

You may be interested in reading Permutation City, for an alternative... view on that hypothesis.

If this is all he's got, I wouldn't even call him a science journalist. He's more like an op-ed columnist/author.

John Horgan is not a Fox News flat-earth Jebusite shill, he's an actual science reporter. I don't know the guy personally, but having read his book before, I know he respects and enjoys science. He just has a viewpoint that while "technology" (applied science) has a great runway of decades or centuries in front of it, pure basic research science may have run out of paradigm-shifting fundamental discoveries.

Agree with it or not, I think Horgan is valuable to science (and hence controversial in a good way) because he is not denying science or the scientific method, but instead saying that "science works so well that we have actually answered all the really big questions that we can currently answer." Science requires healthy skepticism, and I think that is what Horgan is providing with his critique not of science itself but of whether its golden days are in the past. Again, agree or disagree, I think it's fare for an interesting intellectual discussion.

I think this might have to do with the level of basic science funding (of course I don"t have any figures to back that)

That's not John Horgan's point. He is, by the way, a very controversial figure in science journalism (in a good way). Back in 1997, he wrote a fascinating book called The End of Science, the thesis of which was pretty much the same as this article. It examined a number of different sciences and reviewed the accumulated evidence that there were no more major league breakthroughs (a la relativity, quantum mechanics, the unraveling of the DNA double helix) to be found, and scientists henceforward would largely be fleshing out and clarifying the implications of the big discoveries of the past.

Scientists of all stripes, of course, immediately decried the book - if that belief gained traction it would kill the climate for future funding as well as killing most interest among future scientists from entering the field. But regardless of your perspective, it was a great book since it raised some interesting questions for discussion, and it's very very worth reading if you have any interest in science.

Long story short, Horgan's thesis isn't "oh noes we aren't funding basic research," it's more along the lines of "there is just nothing as huge to discover left, no matter how much money you pour onto it. That doesn't mean science isn't useful but you have to adjust your expectations not to expect any more great revolutions like have happened regularly from the 17th century through the 20th centuries." Many Slashdotters will reject that argument out of hand, but Horgan has done his homework enough that it's a compelling read and worth considering his point even if you disagree with it.

I've see what happens to people subjected to "preventative" care.

You'd be interested in this. Not that I'm suggesting you take time from your life to read the book, but the description is enough...

I would say you should read The Divide, but you're already living it.

I sincerely hope you're able to escape your past and find peace and happiness.

Matt Taibbi from Rolling Stone was on the Daily Show a few nights back, pimping his book The Divide. This is what happens in our two-tiered justice system. Steal big, and maybe you have to give some of the money you stole to the government, but no jail time. Steal small, jail.

Really, it comes down to whether or not you can bribe the government. So long as the government's gettin' its beak wet, they don't really care about international bribery and money laundering.

Math is easy, definition and interpretation is the hard part. Let me give you a nice primer on the subject. Might I also suggest understanding logic in natural language, an equally difficult subject few bother to get even an elementary education in.

But it's a function of time. Since the projectile traverses the distance in, e.g., 1/5 the time, the gravitational drop (I forget the real term) will only be 1/5 as much.

Maybe not at those speeds, you are approaching orbital velocity at sea level. With no atmosphere gravity would just about keep it level with the ground, curving it around the earth.

but my point is that outside of that experience the other evidence doesn't stand up, the evidence supporting Mormon story is nowhere near strong enough to convince a non-believer

And right there you have hit on the exact point.

To circle back to the point of the article I think some people think the evidence around the stories is solid, and that's a big part of the reason they believe. The Internet exposes them to strong counterarguments, when they realize the stories don't stand on their own that damages their faith as a whole.

To be clear, I do think the evidence stands up to scrutiny, as long as you look at all the evidence. It's not that I'm afraid of academic debate. I would not be ashamed to build a hypothetical court case to try to an impartial jury (as if there is such a thing) in favor of my faith. I am confident that I could convince an impartial jury, by a preponderance of the evidence, that I am right. But as you point out, that evidence would fall far short of producing in my jury the kind of conviction that would lead them to commit their entire lives to a cause. When we speak of faith, we do not speak of blind belief. Faith is a vital force that leads to "being doers of the word, and not hearers only," and that fundamentally changes men and women internally. "Preponderance of the evidence" doesn't cut it. It's an interesting academic exercise, but ultimately worthless to producing any kind of meaningful, vital faith.

To the point of the original article, I have personally known several former Mormons who have left the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints over stuff they read on the internet. And I myself have learned many things as an adult that I did not know as a child, when my faith was still nascent. Confronted with those things, I had to ask myself honestly, "Do I still believe this?" The incontrovertible answer to me was (to return to our analogy), "Yes, this is definitely a tree. I have seen it and felt it. I have tasted its fruit. It is what it claims to be." In my opinion, that is also why so many leave when confronted with difficult questions. It's not that the evidence is so totally compelling, or that it can't be answered. It's that they have not had the deep, personal, individual experiences. They have relied on their parents' faith, or on momentum, or on social pressure, but they have never tasted the fruit personally, or if they did, they did not recognize it. Lacking that individual witness, they begin to feel they have been deceived, and that makes them angry. This is why we send missionaries out armed not with scholarly articles on the Egyptological basis of the Book of Abraham (for that you might try Hugh Nibley's An Approach to the Book of Abraham, but rather with blue paperback Books of Mormon. Their message is not, "Here are a bunch of evidentiary points that support the Book of Mormon," it is "Here is the book itself. It contains God's word. It was translated by Joseph Smith, who saw God the Father and Jesus Christ [not as part of a tree analogy, but with his physical eyes; a claim I do not make], and who was a prophet. If you want to know if the book is what it claims to be, read the book itself. It contains a promise you can test---that if you will personally read it, ponder on it, and then ask God if it is true, he will manifest the truth of it to you." This "manifestation" is the other sense I spoke of, one that we all have, and one that we have probably all experienced at some point, but that we must sensitize ourselves to.

Thus, to your point:

You don't believe the Books of Mormon and Abraham are factual because they stand on their own, you believe because they're endorsed by your faith which you believe for other reasons.

I would say quite the opposite. The books stand entirely on their own, because I have experienced the value of what's in them. I don

Yeah, well this is what I remember the guy for. The book sucked.

There's an old saying . . . "Four boxes to use in defense of freedom. Soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order."

Since the screaming left owns the first 3, and has made the final prohibitively expensive, I have no other choice but to just enjoy the decline

I seem to be doing okay with just one remote. It's not even a so-called "universal" remote. Just a cheapo programmable one that came with my AVR.

As I have things configured now, my TV is the only device out in the open in my media room. The rest (aside from whatever game controller I'm using) is tucked away in a closet. Rather than deal with tedious wiring or ugly devices next to my TV, I use one of these, which I cannot recommend highly enough, to get IR signals into the closet where I keep my devices.

As for the remote itself, the only thing I had to do to it was install that little product and look up the code for my brand of TV in the remote's manual so that I could use it to turn the TV on. All other controls (changing inputs, adjusting volume, etc.) are handled via the AVR itself, and the AVR turns on automatically as soon as the TV comes on, thanks to the HDMI cables CEC feature, which took quite a bit of configuring in the AVR's and TV's settings to get working as expected. The Apple TV took awhile to get working too, but once I discovered that the Apple TV itself has a Learn Remote feature that can work with any remote at all, everything clicked in place. As a result, I was able to ditch my Apple TV remote and the Wiimote-like remote that came with my LG "smart" TV in favor of the boring AVR remote that has about 10 buttons I actually need to know.

See how easy that was to get three devices working? You just need to understand how to program a remote, program an Apple TV, configure multiple devices to use CEC, and hook everything up correctly. I'm sure any layman at all could do the same in a few minutes.

(in case it's not obvious yet, I agree with your point)

Not only doesn't a GUI rust over time (though it starts to look dated), it becomes more stable and reliable. The lack of change in GUI functionality is a *good* thing. It allows users to become habituated to working in the GUI and not have to think about the interface; they can just focus on the task at hand. Apple *used* to understand this, but they seem to have lost their way since creating iOS. Change for change's sake is not helpful. Shiny doesn't have to come at the price of novelty.

Have a look at Steve Krug's Don't Make Me Think for a good treatise on this principle.

GUI elements and touchscreen motions based on familiar physical devices are common and obvious. Ever seen a slide bolt on a door? The old ones didn't rotate to lock them in place, you just slid one way to lock and the other to unlock.

Does the slide to unlock patent go away if you put a picture of a slide bolt on the screen?

Yes I have a better alternative, and I'll do the best to help you out in the length of a comment. Everyone who runs social science experiments nowadays knows that there are problems with interventions; namely, some people who are assigned to the intervention group will not do it (e.g., proper diet and exercise) and some people who are assigned to the control group will actually do the intervention (e.g. they will eat healthy and exercise even if you don't tell them to). Modern statistics deals with these issues pretty well, and is able to give us metrics about how effective the actual treatment is, how well people are able to follow advice, and how good the advice actually is.

To get up to speed, you can read a good text such as this. If you already have a good stats background, you can go straight to chapter 9 and read from there.

I trust Amazon comments on matters like these:

http://www.amazon.com/Mobile-H...

There are no songs available on iTunes that are unavailable elsewhere.

For viewers in the United States, the lyrics video for "Bück dich" by Rammstein lists only iTunes. Granted, you can buy the whole album on a shiny disc, or you can break the law and risk getting caught. Which of those is what you meant?

Who cares, motherboards still come with expansion slots? PCI 2-Serial/1-Parallel Port Host Controller Card $3.67 If you want a serial card, put one in.

Well, that is certainly possible if that's important to you. .

You also could have clicked the link I provided,l and perhaps typed the word "ethernet"... There are lots of models covering many different use cases. My unit works great over wifi, which is great since I have no Ethernet in my bedroom...

I have a "Google TV" and I love it! Also called a "TV Stick" they are best sellers on Amazon with many models to choose from starting at around $25. I bought an MK808B for my bedroom TV and it's hard not to love.

1) It cost $40.

2) It uses my already existing TV

3) It streams Hulu, Netflix, CBS, NBC, and any other TV network that bothers with an Android app over wifi.

4) It uses about 2.5 watts of power.

5) It's not much bigger than a thumb stick.

6) It works seamlessly with an "air mouse" wireless remote.

7) It plays MP4 videos fluidly and runs uTorrent without issue.

8) It has room for two USB devices and an SD card.

9) Effortless support for 1080p resolution.

What more do you want from set top box that actually hides behind the TV?

First hit on Amazon for search: "Core i3 desktop"

http://www.amazon.com/M11AA-US...

$479 for a computer running Windows 7 Pro

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The UK government is only willing to spend as much as 18,235 new personal computers cost. The cost of replacing those 800,000 XP-running computers is 43x higher than this budget, so sure, it saves them a lot of money up front, but they're still stuck with a bunch of shitty XP boxes. Someone should fire their CEO and CFO for making such a terribly short-sighted decision.

I'm definitely interested in it's gaming potential, since they just announced their amazon game studio (http://games.amazon.com/, but I am pretty underwhelmed with how they're managing the streaming service.

Also, the power adapter is a little bulky and would obscure both the outlets next to it on my surge protector power strip. To avoid wasting three outlet, I am using a short 1 foot extension cable.

For the love of God, if you're going to hack while driving, at least get yourself a safety device.

Actually, Plex for Amazon Fire is only $1. Personally I have a Roku and Plex is what I use it for 90% of the time, for streaming media that I have locally on my network.

Chromecast doesn't do enough to add value. The only thing it really brings to the table is the novel control scheme. Yes, it's a cheap streamer that I can control with a $75 tablet or retired smartphone, but I'll bet I can find a price-competitive BluRay player that can do both those things and still play discs AND use a proper ethernet connection.

Just get an Android box running XBMC. You can get decent examples like the Matricom G-Box MX2 for $99.

Instead of turning around at the halfway point and using the same thrust to decelerate, would it be possible to, theoretically, initiate an explosion in front of the craft, equal in yield to the amount of thrust used to achieve whatever speed your craft is at when you need to start accelerating?

Yes, because the explosion you propose is simply a shorter duration, higher intensity version of retro-thrusting. (Incidentally, some sci-fi authors have proposed using explosions [such as nukes] for the initial thrust as well [Anathem comes to mind].)

However, the problem with your approach is that it's less efficient: first, it requires extra machinery because you're building a second propulsion system instead of reusing the one you already have; second, it requires extra structural support because you're going to subject the vehicle to higher delta-V's. Obviously, this adds a lot of weight, a lot of extra engineering, and several more points of failure.

The implicit engineering assumption you're running into here is that the most viable approach for interstellar voyages (if anything is viable, which is doubtful) will be a regime of nearly symmetrical acceleration/deceleration provided by a single propulsion system.

You can get consumer-grade NVG equipment for a couple hundred dollars or less now. Here's an example. There's no reason they can't put this technology in cars fairly cheaply.

Yes, and Ford could have fixed the Pinto and GM their cars for less than $1 per car in parts. Are you really assuming that the industry would give it to the consumer at cost? Assuming of course that the equipment you priced could stand up to the harsh environment that an automobile does.

How FBI Entrapment Is Inventing 'Terrorists' - and Letting Bad Guys Off the Hook:

The guy who convinced the plotters to blow up a big bridge, led them to the arms merchant, and drove the team to the bomb site was an FBI informant. The merchant was an FBI agent. The bomb, of course, was a dud. And the arrest was part of a pattern of entrapment by federal law enforcement since September 11, 2001, not of terrorist suspects, but of young men federal agents have had to talk into embracing violence in the first place... In all these law enforcement schemes the alleged terrorists masterminds end up seeming, when the full story comes out, unable to terrorize their way out of a paper bag without law enforcement tutelage."

You forgot some labels: "Who else are we supposed to be afraid of? Certainly animal-rights and environmental radicals."

But don't worry your pretty little heads over the epidemic of far-right insurrectionism that followed the election of Barack Obama: all told, according to a forthcoming data analysis by Neiwert, there have been 55 cases of right-wing extremists being arrested for plotting or committing alleged terrorists acts compared to 26 by Islamic militants during the same period. The right-wing plots include the bombing of a 2011 Martin Luther King Day parade in Spokane and the assassination of abortion doctor George Tiller in 2009. Neither of their perpetrators, it goes without saying, had been arrested before they attempted their vile acts; neither required law enforcement entrapment to conceive and carry them out. It's just too bad for their victims they did not fit the story federal law enforcement seeks to tell.

Or $227: http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-...

You can get consumer-grade NVG equipment for a couple hundred dollars or less now. Here's an example. There's no reason they can't put this technology in cars fairly cheaply.

The reason I like this book is because the techniques employed are lab tested; it is not a "feel good" book; it's a book that describes how to deal with the thoughts that cause depression - i.e. cognitive distortions, and how to "talk back" to those distortions in ways that effectively disarm them. Feeling Good is available for about $10 from Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Feeling-...; it is used by therapists all over the world and is probably the most effective book of its kind. btw, this book is also helpful for people who are just going through a rough patch, but are not depressed.

The problem here is that the product has no specific point to it - it exists *solely to produce vendor lock in*. Since it's little more than a re-badged Android TV stick there's really nothing special at all about it. This, in a market space that's saturated with me-too also-rans.

It's not that Amazon's offering is horrible, it's that it's not notable in a field littered with the corpses of other not-notable failed products.

Bezos isn't crazy? How much do you want to bet on that?

The Drones idea has more holes in it than an R/O water filter....

IR/color backup camera w/distance projection: $14.09

Monitor: $31.64

Those include all the cables and mounts you need. So for about $45.00, you're up and running. I can't imagine a sideview camera would be any more expensive than a rearview. If you broke the mount off, that's bodywork, but hey, don't do that. :)

IR/color backup camera w/distance projection: $14.09

Monitor: $31.64

Those include all the cables and mounts you need. So for about $45.00, you're up and running. I can't imagine a sideview camera would be any more expensive than a rearview. If you broke the mount off, that's bodywork, but hey, don't do that. :)