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Lateralus apparently has the most clever track listing I've ever heard. If you're not aware, there are a lot of references to parabolas, cycles, and so forth throughout the songs.

Halfway through the album are two tracks, back-to-back called Parabol/Parabola. Apparently, doing things like splitting the track listing there generates some interesting results. But the most interesting is as follows.

Someone on the Internet posted about an alternate tracklisting for the songs that seems to have been intentional, and throws a whole new tone to the entire record.

I'll quote it below:

To me, Tool's Lateralus is the most amazing piece of music ever
composed. I think Tool deliberately wanted to give their fans something
truly amazing, but wanted them to find it on their own. "Recognize this
as a holy gift..." At first, I thought that the song Lateralus was
about tripping acid - discovering true color by seperating the body
from the mind. At first listen, I imagined the bending envelope as an
intense visual. After becoming more familiar with the track, however, I
had reformed my interpretation to something broader: think deeper.
Lateralus, perhaps because it is the album's "title track", serves as
the central clue for a puzzle that a friend of mine had read about
somewhere on the internet. "All I know is that there is a different
order for the songs - something about two spirals. Oh yeah, and
thirteen is in the middle." After scavenging through endless google
search results, I gave up on finding more about this 'alternate order'.
Intent to figure the album out, and very curious about the spirals - I
put on the proverbial 'thinking cap'. I understood how the spirals
could have a lot of significance, in that the album's title track
offers the inspiring, "swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be
a human..........And following our will and wind we may just go where
no one's been. We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where
no one's been." In my internet scavenging, I had read one review,
written by a drummer, who mentioned that Danny Carey's drum beat formed
a fibonacci sequence during the song Lateralus. A drummer myself, I
decided to get out the graph paper and follow Danny. I can't play like
he can, but at least I can hear everything he's doing, and thus was
able to construct the drum tabulature. Sure enough, Danny repeats a
Fibonacci sequence through the number 13: 1,1,2,3,5,8,13. After 13, he
starts again with 1. Bringing in my Algebra 2 knowledge of the
Fibonacci sequence, when the equation for the Fibonacci sequence (which
I don't actually know) is graphed, it forms a sprial whose vertex
depends on the number at which the sequence begins. Coincidence? I
began to think not. I had already known of Danny's obsession with
sacred geometry and am familiar with Bob Frissell's book, Nothing in
This Book Is True, But It's Exactly How Things Are , so the
significance of what I had stumbled upon had actually begun to settle
in. This is where I just had to play with Lateralus. I had doodled a
few spirals in the corners of my graph paper, and in doing so made the
first important connection to Lateralus. I knew that if the tracks were
in fact intended to be heard in a different order, "Parabol" and
"Parabola" would have to go together. In drawing my spirals, I had
begun with a vertex and 'spiraled' outwards. After writing the numbers
1 through 13 linearly, I could immediately see that Parabol and
Parabola would have to be the middle of my spiral (in that 13 / 2 =
6.5). I drew a simple arrow between 6 and 7 and then pondered the next
pair. At first, I actually drew a spiral connecting pairs of numbers
whose sum equaled 13 (the number of songs on the album). This, however,
left the last track in the same position and without anything to
connect to. At this time, I had used my copy of La

http://www.angelfire.com/games/ultimateblaster/

> How big are the chickens?

Good point. Seymour Cray was obviously talking in the old days when there weren't giant radioactive chickens stalking the Earth laying giant eggs like this one just outside of Chernobyl.

Attach a few of these radioctive chickens to your plough and you're likely to break the sound barrier.

ED: You see a well-groomed garden. In the middle, on a small hill, you see a gazebo.
ERIC: A gazebo? What color is it?
ED: (Pause) It's white, Eric.
ERIC: How far away is it?
ED: About 50 yards.
ERIC: How big is it?
ED: (Pause) It's about 30 feet across, 15 feet high, with a pointed top.
ERIC: I use my sword to detect whether it's good.
ED: It's not good, Eric. It's a gazebo!
ERIC: (Pause) I call out to it.
ED: It won't answer. It's a gazebo!
ERIC: (Pause) I sheathe my sword and draw my bow and arrows. Does it respond in any way?
ED: No, Eric. It's a gazebo!
ERIC: I shoot it with my bow (rolls to hit). What happened?
ED: There is now a gazebo with an arrow sticking out of it.
ERIC: (Pause) Wasn't it wounded?
ED: Of course not, Eric! It's a gazebo!
ERIC: (Whimper) But that was a plus-three arrow!
ED: It's a gazebo, Eric, a gazebo! If you really want to try to destroy it, you could try to chop it with an axe, I suppose, or you could try to burn it, but I don't know why anybody would even try. It's a @#%$*& gazebo!
ERIC: (Long pause - he has no axe or fire spells) I run away.
ED: (Thoroughly frustrated) It's too late. You've awakened the gazebo, and it catches you and eats you.
ERIC: (Reaching for his dice) Maybe I'll roll up a fire-using mage so I can avenge my paladin...

Full story here

funny picture of bill gates

I wonder if he listens to Minor Threat?

You can see some photographs of the real site here... http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/ With some comentary contrary to the premise of the game.

Of course, I could always pair up with the Chernobyl gal...

The shape of ordinary cars deems them quite unsuitable to be used in an aerial configuration.
I believe that a convertable Road/Air vehicle stands a better chance if the Road Configuration (shape) is more like the Pulse/Litestar design:
Litestar Pulse
THESE are already efficient at fighting drag, and the canopy renders all-round vision. The motor could be de-clutched from the road-gearbox to re-connect to a folding (or attachable) propellor/fan drive.

Computer-controlled air navigation could adaquately solve any air safety concerns, along with designated airlanes!
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yes, but that didn't include mu

I passed the Chernobyl bike ride link from a few days ago around to a few friends. One fired this one back. So aparrently you're not too far off the mark either.

Notice they are both on angelfire.com.

Coincidence? I think not.

I passed the Chernobyl bike ride link from a few days ago around to a few friends. One fired this one back. So aparrently you're not too far off the mark either.

Notice they are both on angelfire.com.

Coincidence? I think not.

That's all... it's not rocket science!!! :)

Quite.

I thought the current administration was Republican.

(BTW, the donkey has a mildly interesting history.)

Many people probably don't understand from her broken English, but she took this picture IN FRONT OF THE SARCOPHAGUS OF CHORNOBYL!!!!
Man. I cannot even begin to imagine.
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In Russian, the word "marodior" (marauder) is the term used to describe any kind of looter. Trust me, you do not want to get yourself shot while looking for radioactive souvenirs.

radiactive technics as far as only eyes can see. There were people inside of each vehicle.

Quoting chapter 6:

Some tell that 400.000 dead, soyuzchernobyl report of 300.000 people that died since 1986 and this is not over, in 30 years people will still die

These numbers are WILDLY inflated! The number of deaths from radiation are probably rather in the dozens. Check here, or here

Kudos to Elena and the editors for a great human interest story.

On the last page she has left her mailing address. (Ex-soviet bloc mail is, amusingly enough, addressed in reverse of ours--country first, then city, next line address, post box, last line name.)

She may very well have no need for money at all, but perhaps the well off slashdotters would consider sending her a token of appreciation.

Though at this moment in time, I can't exactly figure out the best way of doing that :-)

(Apparently Ukraine doesn't take international money orders.)

the photo at the bottom is in the ovie demo for the game stalker, which is set in this area. Nice to see how real its looking.

Note that if you look at some of the Images, it seems pretty obvious that she's in the process of registering and moving her site to another location

People have already theorized why sundays aren't present (different color, faded) but what do the characters to the left of the numbers mean? Image here. The top one looks like Pi then H.

Why don't we, as a community, set her up with some real hosting for her pics..

Well, Angelfire seems to be holding up to this slashdotting. If that isn't "real" hosting, then I don't know what is.


BTW, she posted her address. Ukraine 03187 Kiev-187 Zabolotnogo 20/A Post Box 25 Elena
She deserves a few rubles/dollars/euros!

Ditto here.

Man, riding thru the Chernobyl fallout areas...

But, hey, I have to say this; riding on icy roads on a bike... now that's friccin courage, skill, and an insane kind of chutzpah I can *really* admire :) Holy fucking shit! Lady, I salute you... you have more balls than 90% of the male population... and you're a helluva lot better looking *grin*

SB

It's was quite boring to go on ellection where one could only vote for one candidate and for one party. People haven't been coming. Then, in order to bring people on ellections, authorities arranged free drinks.

Even in a two party system, this would be a nice enhancement!

It is pretty amazing, and a horrifying reminder. The most striking group of photos is here. As Elena said, these photos don't need any explanation, they speak for themselves.

Unless she set the camera on a, uh, really high fence post. Or maybe she has a tripod, I guess...

Tarkofsky was a prophet! Down to the people making their living as guides in The Zone. But, of course we didn't need anything to fall from the sky. We did it ourselves. Yay us! -nme!

Looks like they only show 6 days/week. Why is this?? http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/imag e21.3.JPG

Sorry, I'm not trying to karma whore, but my day job relates to getting people not to be affraid of radiation, so seing this post have such high mod points is really getting to me.

Re Giant Egg: "big egg as we passing 86th kilometer we'll see this big egg. This is where civilisation ends and where Chernobyl ride begin. Someone brought this egg from Germany. The significance of this egg is LIFE that will break through, life that will survive through radiation."

I don't think that symbolism will work. People instead will think of Giant Mutant Chickens and run like hell.

4) Hot chicks of the tech world in bathing suits

What, like this ? (tho that might appeal to the old mainframer crowd ;0)

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18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized. For John was not yet cast into prison. Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying. And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee b

First, you have to obtain a copy of THE
LIVING WORD OF GOD and read it.

Second, you need to succeed spreading the gospel, perhaps through a
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John 3
1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly Things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, beca

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John 3
1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly Things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, beca

First, you have to obtain a copy of THE
LIVING WORD OF GOD and read it.

Second, you need to succeed spreading the gospel, perhaps through a
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=========text for satan's lamenes filter ===============
John 3
1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly Things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of Go

The Connecticut town of Lyme (Old Lyme, and East Lyme as well) is less than ten miles away accross the Long Island Sound from Plum Island (If you were ever in the Navy and pulled out from New London or the Groton Sub Base, then youve been within 150 yardsof the place).

Mycoplasma Fermentans has been detected in patients of Gulf War Syndrome, Lyme Disease, and HIV in almost all cases. It is often also detected in Multiple Sclerosis patients, and the US Army released instructions to the Veterans Administration shortly after the Korean War that all MS cases developing within two years of a serviceman returning from Korea should be considered to be service related.

There is a connection that has been noticed by doctors in that area, as well as by doctors treating patients who have lived in that area in other locations.

There is also at least one patent held by the US Army for this organism.

It's good that there's covertage of some of the mishaps that occur at these facilities, but it seems that a "mishap" might not be enough to account for the problems that have been connected to the communitioes surrounding Plum Island and are spreading through the population. (Yes, Gulf War Syndrome is contagious, and did "originate" in many veterans who never left the states.)

The punchline made me think this might be a joke, but your website certainly leads one to believe you may in fact be blind...

Good thing I build all my computers from components recycled from the dumpster bay at Texas Instruments in Austin.

Meaning what? That the components in the dumpster don't have the same stuff as in the Samsung hardware? Heh. Not to feed your paranoia or anything, Hansel, (or perhaps Gretel?) but how do you know the gingerbread house you are nibbling on doesn't belong to a witch who wants to eat you?

However, about a while ago I had the opportunity to fire several clips (or magazines? I forget) with a 9mm pistol in a large group of other first time shooters.

Yeah yeah, he can speak in Cantonese and English, but can he sing like the Sexual Harrassment Panda

ValuJet's Critter logo was cartoonish. Critter (the bug-eyed little airplane character on the sides of its jets) was cool and fun, which was just what the upstart airline wanted to portray itself as.

Much of the radiation in Cherobyl is, however, gamma. Which is very very bad. I believe it is apolitical.

Gamma is very penetrating, yes. But if you'd read the article you'd have seen the map and the radiation counter both showing dose rates on the order of 100 micro-roentgen/hr; that's less than 1 rem/year, and only slightly above natural background radiation levels. She said that those rates increase by a factor of 4-5 if you go off the road. I conclude then that a) it's smarter to stay on the road, b) these does rates are not "very, very bad" by any reasonable stretch of the imagination, and c) the only way you could be in serious peril is if there was an additional source of radiation exposure. Since she'd mentioned dust indoors, that's what I figured you were talking about.

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Iraq had weapons of mass distruction, the USSR was an empire of evil ready to conquer the world.

Houston, we have a pattern.

This photo was giving Elena too much attention. Do you think she is single?
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Yeah, especially that she's not just a hot chick on a motorcycle, but she's completely in gear (did you see the 'kawasaki' leather jacket?), and the bike probably has more horsepower than most /. readers' cars...

If Kawasaki picks up on this, they could be in for a hugely successful worldwide marketing campaign around her.

Yeah, especially that she's not just a hot chick on a motorcycle, but she's completely in gear (did you see the 'kawasaki' leather jacket?), and the bike probably has more horsepower than most /. readers' cars...

If Kawasaki picks up on this, they could be in for a hugely successful worldwide marketing campaign around her.

Thanks for the link!

In page 12 she shows a radiation display at the city 4km from reactor, it says 81.6 but the scale is in russian characters, the text says "microroengen per hour"

Dunno if that's accurate...