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It's Serge!

http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w...

Not a new concept, Cylons are using it for 3000 years already.

"The virtual version of Zoe was created by Zoe Graystone herself using hacked rudimentary emulation software capable of duplicating her own V-World avatar. Graystone programmed the copy - a perfect copy - with roughly 100 terabytes of personal information from other databases. This allowed the avatar to access and translate information from medical scans, DNA profiles, psychological evaluations, school records, emails, video and audio recordings, CAT scans, genetic typing, synaptic records, security cameras, test results, shopping records, talent shows, ballgames, traffic tickets, restaurant bills, phone records, music lists, movie tickets, TV shows and "even prescriptions for birth control" - essentially turning raw data into personality and memory." -- http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Zoe_Graystone

Also, it's not "dradis". It's DRADIS. http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/DRADIS

Right. Because they speak English on Caprica and use English spelling and rules of grammar. That wiki is just how some fans rationalise things. Anyway, an acronym you speak as a single word rather than spell out (D_R_A_D_I_S) is usually written lower case -- radar, laser, etc.

Here you go, doing exactly what I was being critical of. Making stuff up. There's NO sign in that show that it is instantaneous.

Oh, really? And yet...

It's visible. Immediately. No light-speed delay.

So, aside from you immediately refuting yourself, I can recall them showing ships across a solar system, light hours away.There's never more than a few seconds delay. And that more for the sweeping of whatever it is that they beam out in analogy to microwaves. It was called dradis for a reason, so they could make it do whatever they wanted dramatically. If they had wanted to limit it to real world EM and lightspeed, they would have done that. They had plenty enough antique technology.

Also it's "dradis". Which isn't explained, but does appear to be effectively instantaneous. When they start a scan they get an image from millions of miles away in seconds. In BSG they have FTL travel, so FTL "radar" isn't out of the question.

Also, it's not "dradis". It's DRADIS. http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/DRADIS

Here you go, doing exactly what I was being critical of. Making stuff up. There's NO sign in that show that it is instantaneous. At close range perhaps, which is where most of the engagements happen, but we are almost always SHOWN (for dramatic effect) whatever has just jumped into range. It's visible. Immediately. No light-speed delay. Everything that happens in BSG combat-wise is visibly in the general range of tens of kilometers. DRADIS obviously had fairly limited range on it, with even one raptor micro-jump exceeding it. So even short FTL travel defeated it. Therein lies the evidence that they didn't have FTL detection.

I'm writing a really useful navigation package for players' ships.

Yes there is. :) http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Fire_in_Space

Yeah, that's what she said.

Unless you're referring to the original series, otherwise correction: frakking.

I'm in if it involves attractive robots from the future.

1. nuclear weapons != nuclear power
2. While BSG spends lots of time building up the drama surrounding the possible, and actual, use of nukes, few are actually deployed by the humans.

Glen A. Larson, the creator of the BSG of 1978-1980, was Mormon. That show was highly influenced by Mormon theology (e.g. space lost tribes of Israel, space pioneer trek, space-Satan showing up, space eternal marriage). However, only the most basic concepts of the original show carried over to BSG of 2003-2009. That the new show had religion at all could probably be blamed on Larson, but the shape that the religious concepts took in the new show lays squarely on the shoulders of Ronald D. Moore, who "describes himself as a 'recovering Catholic' and is currently agnostic."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

And as side note, why does Caprica series barely seem to match up with the 2003 BSG backstory. Because it was based on a unrelated sci-fi TV script that was reworked (or perhaps shoe-horned) to fit into the new BSG universe. That little detail seems to have become buried in history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caprica_(TV_series)#Concept

It didn't even last a yarin.

Ummm, don't you mean yahren? ;-)

The best bit is Ecclesiastes ripped the idea off from The Book of Pythia:: All this has happened before. All this will happen again.

It's turtles all the way down!

Didn't they establish that God was helping them way back in the first season when President Roslin started seeing visions and such?

She was on drugs - Chamalla extract, which is what the oracles used to allow them to see visions. God wasn't really established until later in the series.

Nope, it exists.

I assume after all things Galactica are said and done it will be released in printed form to much fanfare. For now they can't because it still holds a lot of plot points that they can still use in future stories.

Ahhh, I've heard of this "Mitochondrial Eve".

The funny thing is that Benedict was not only in a promotional documentary for the new series (meeting at a coffee shop with the new Starbuck, Katee Sackhoff, and offering her advice on playing Starbuck), but he was also slated to play a big role in the new series at one point (supposedly he was going to play some incarnation of the Cylon god). So when or why he suddenly became so bitter about the whole thing is unclear, but it doesn't seem to be for the reasons he later claimed.

And if anyone had any reason to be bitter, it was Hatch. He had written a sequel to the original BSG and even done a teaser trailer on his own dime. And, unlike Benedict, he never really had any other series after the original BSG (like Benedict had with The A-Team). Yet he managed to make his peace with the new series and turned in the best performance of his career on the show, no less.

You're not crazy. Just make sure you get us to Earth, m'kay?

We were mislead at the end of Season 3. After Starbuck reappears, we're taken on a tour of the galaxies and shown Earth, implying that this is what Starbuck found:
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/File:Earth_(RDM).jpg

You can clearly make out the United States of America.

I don't know if we saw continents once Galactica actually made it to Earth. Haven't found a screenshot of that.

The planets independently evolved genetically compatible humans.

That the planets also looked the same chances the odds from infinity:1 to infinity:1.

It wasn't an angel figurine. It was a figurine of the Aurora, Goddess of the Dawn. It was also more than a few episodes back. It was Maelstrom - the episode in season 3 where she dies.

I agree that the show is fairly explicit that she's an Angel. But perhaps they weren't explicit, hitting us over the head enough. That's why at the end of Season 3, when Starbuck reappears, they zoom in on Earth, with North America front and center. The staff of the show were worried that if they didn't, audiences wouldn't get that it was Earth.

Mostly though, this show has done much better than typical TV spoon feeding you info and spelling everything out ad nauseum.

It wasn't an angel figurine. It was a figurine of the Aurora, Goddess of the Dawn. It was also more than a few episodes back. It was Maelstrom - the episode in season 3 where she dies.

I agree that the show is fairly explicit that she's an Angel. But perhaps they weren't explicit, hitting us over the head enough. That's why at the end of Season 3, when Starbuck reappears, they zoom in on Earth, with North America front and center. The staff of the show were worried that if they didn't, audiences wouldn't get that it was Earth.

Mostly though, this show has done much better than typical TV spoon feeding you info and spelling everything out ad nauseum.

We were mislead at the end of Season 3. After Starbuck reappears, we're taken on a tour of the galaxies and shown Earth, implying that this is what Starbuck found:
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/File:Earth_(RDM).jpg

You can clearly make out the United States of America.

I don't know if we saw continents once Galactica actually made it to Earth. Haven't found a screenshot of that.

Make it a legal drama on a planet you know gets destroyed in a few years so everything that happens is irrelevant.

Oh, I thought you wanted how NOT to reinvent a story.

I'm assuming Starbuck is a "clone" of the original created by the new series equivalents to the "Beings of Light"

http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Beings_of_Light

Personally I'm thinking that the supposed humans aren't human but cylons themselves, who forgot their origins and created their own Cylons.

Obvious "hark-backs":

• Older-model Centurions in older-model Raiders ("manned", not cyborg) guarding the "First Hybrid" in Razor
• Mark II Viper is a visual dead-on clone of the original series one (although, not fitted with those nifty laser weapons)
• Pegasus and other later-model battlestars are styled more like original series ones than Galactica (see http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Image:Pegasus-Comparison.png)

That's just off the top of my head.

It's a spinoff of the original BSG! Just so great. Really.

Obvious "hark-backs":

• Older-model Centurions in older-model Raiders ("manned", not cyborg) guarding the "First Hybrid" in Razor
• Mark II Viper is a visual dead-on clone of the original series one (although, not fitted with those nifty laser weapons)
• Pegasus and other later-model battlestars are styled more like original series ones than Galactica (see http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Image:Pegasus-Comparison.png)

That's just off the top of my head.

It has run its course, move on.

Dude, have been to the theater lately? Everything is recycled. Old movies, old TV shows. foreign movies, comic books, video games... The biggest blockbuster last summer was the third installment in franchise that started out as a theme park ride. (Not a very good one, either.) Martin Scorsese not only recycled a Hong Kong action flick, he won an Oscar for doing it!

For some reason, it's much harder to get an expensive movie or TV production greenlighted if it's totally original. It has to be a copy of something else. The original doesn't even have been successful!

Look at Battlestar Galactica. The remake only caries over the barest elements of the premise and a lot of not very important details. Creatively, it would have made more sense to start from scratch. But no, in order to get made, the series had to be based on a older series by one of TV's most notorious hacks and ripoff artists that barely lasted a single season.

Like they say on the show, "It has happened before, it will happen again!"

Life imitates Battlestar Galactica

There was a bug in Service Pack 7, the rest is history.

There is no shortage of trivia websites on the internet, nor is there anything stopping you from starting your own. Wikipedia is a community-run website that has a specific focus--and while that community is open to newcomers and outside contributors, it is what it is and the consensus of that community won't change without a long-term influx of people who think differently. And that's an issue of social dynamics beyond either my or your ability to change. I increasingly think now that my WikiTrivia project would have been the best solution, but on the other hand it doesn't make sense to me to criticize Wikipedia because it prefers to focus on non-trivial information. (I'm sure if I went to the Battlestar Galactica Wiki and contributed a bunch of content about some guy's immensely famous and popular BSG fanfiction, they'd do the same thing.)

It looks like you don't know how to have a civil disagreement with someone. Go to hell.

Most of the measures you propose have either been tried and failed in the past (google hits? seriously?). The others seem to rest more on the idea of "not wanting to throw away someone's precious work to avoid hurting their precious delicate feelings" rather than the idea of "building a quality encyclopedia". That's not Wikipedia's focus.

As we know from Battlestar Galactica, making the hull from composites will make it invisible to Radar..

thus air traffic control will be unable to find them and guide traffic around them.

You mean like these guys?

>>Imagine... Robots without the three laws...

By Your Command

http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Muffit

At least we won't be subjected to another annoying Boxey kid...

This is an official Department of Motor Vehicles broadcast. All drivers should now go to Case Orange. Repeat: This is an official Department of Motor Vehicles broadcast. All drivers should now go to Case Orange.

Marvel never, ever actually kills a character. They just can't; it goes completely against their Franchise-And-Flog mentality, and it's the main reason I stopped reading Marvel titles in the late 90s. If you're going to kill my favorite characters, have the decency to leave them dead, dammit.

As for Starbuck... the media (and many fans) stopped giving a shit about Galactica when the writers gave up on serious, interesting bits (genocide, fleet issues, politics, etc) to dwell on the goddamned Starbuck/Apollo/Anders love triangle. I'd like to think that if they hadn't decided to wallow in that tepid garbage for so many episodes, the show would still be on Friday nights and Sci-Fi would have ordered a full s4 instead of 13 eps.

That's my theory, anyway. But I'm bitter about it.

If anything, Starbuck got sucked up by the modern version of the Ship of Lights, which means she'll probably be back at some point.

Or worse, the modern version of Doctor Zee will be sent in as a replacement.

Marvel never, ever actually kills a character. They just can't; it goes completely against their Franchise-And-Flog mentality, and it's the main reason I stopped reading Marvel titles in the late 90s. If you're going to kill my favorite characters, have the decency to leave them dead, dammit.

As for Starbuck... the media (and many fans) stopped giving a shit about Galactica when the writers gave up on serious, interesting bits (genocide, fleet issues, politics, etc) to dwell on the goddamned Starbuck/Apollo/Anders love triangle. I'd like to think that if they hadn't decided to wallow in that tepid garbage for so many episodes, the show would still be on Friday nights and Sci-Fi would have ordered a full s4 instead of 13 eps.

That's my theory, anyway. But I'm bitter about it.

If anything, Starbuck got sucked up by the modern version of the Ship of Lights, which means she'll probably be back at some point.

Or worse, the modern version of Doctor Zee will be sent in as a replacement.

But could you imagine a toaster refusing to toast becuase it doesn't like someone sticking in its loaf all the time.

You racist!

Duck and Jammer both perviously existed. References: http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Tucker_Clellan http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/James_Lyman

You are correct that the webisodes help greatly in understanding their motives, though.

Duck and Jammer both perviously existed. References: http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Tucker_Clellan http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/James_Lyman

You are correct that the webisodes help greatly in understanding their motives, though.

Just don't let any of it get on your steak

Looks like he only left BSG for a couple of episodes to shoot the pilot - check out his comments at the bottom of this page: http://www.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Lay_Down_Your_B urdens%2C_Part_II

The permanent end of Billy may have been for other reasons.

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