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Root cause? How about pattern failures?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2357585/Crash-landing-San-Francisco-mirrors-Boeing-777-crash-London-Heathrow-years-ago.html

Did it occur to anyone that the media, government and Boeing might be trying to sweep this under the carpet? After all, Boeing hasn't been having very good luck lately. Problems with the 787 are killing them financially.

So Slashdotters object to government collecting their metadata, but sticking its nose into every health decision is A-OK?

ObamaCare has 100x the potential for abuse the NSA does.

Even apart from socialized medicine starving people to death.

Sir, you have a really old house.

Sure, but we've had some great times there.

Oh and how could I forget these.

The EU's the only thing with a chance of preventing further erosion of British citizens' working rights, civil liberties, environment, etc.

Obligatory civics note: The EU is not the authority behind the European Convention on Human Rights, which in turn motivated the UK's Human Rights Act. Leaving the EU and leaving the ECHR are different actions.

Sorry. I'm aware of that (and often correct people), but it's easy to forget when British MPs get it wrong. There are some EU civil liberties things. For example, I doubt we'd get stronger data protection laws without the EU.

I think you're being overly optimistic about the EU's role in protecting various things within Britain as well. Between the opt-outs and special cases, a lot of the intended protections under EU rules get watered down here anyway.

In some respects, the most compelling argument for leaving might be that it simplifies our political system and thus makes it harder for our national government to avoid taking responsibility for unpopular actions.

You make a good point, but I'd be concerned that the Daily Mail, Sun etc support the wrong side of the argument. Isn't the working time directive a good thing, and our opt-out a bad thing? Many people here seem to disagree, although few (if any) in my social circle.

At present, it's far too easy for our administration to be saying something popular at home, while simultaneously negotiating for an opposing position at European level, and then when the European version goes through because there's little real accountability at that level, the folks back home can mumble something about the EU making us do it.

This is the fault of the British media -- in other EU countries the press report on what MEPs are doing. I don't know why The Guardian doesn't point out the hypocrisy, it should make some very easy anti-Tory headlines.

Sure. Holiday pics fit nicely into a cloud.

Actually even pictures can be a security risk depending on who sees them. If they are recent holiday pics in the snow, while your house is in a location with no snow, it may tell people you are not home and they may decide to rob you.

If there are no tell tale signs of your location in the picture, are you sure you cleaned the metadata? Even a mythbuster can be caught leaving gps information in their pictures.

Even discounting the "Please Rob Me" mentality for a minute... What if you play hooky from work? Is the timestamp on the picture of you at the bar the same day you claimed you were sick? Or was it the night before and you are constantly sick with hangovers? Did you change the timestamp? Are you sure there isn't a daily calendar, clock, or watch in the picture showing the time and date? Even if you do not have any drinking problems and even if you are away on your vacation, some companies cross the boundary into your personal life and may fire you for almost any reason, just ask this teacher from GA. Don't believe this is just aimed at drinking, it may be any illegal activity or even some legal activities that others don't care for. (It could be religious affliations, political rallies, or many other lifestyle choices.)

I can go to an extreme and say you need to watch out for even the most innocent things... How many people are stupid enough to use pet names as passwords than post that pet's picture everywhere. Pictures of cars with your license plate number, calendars with birthdays... A picture of your mom (and captioned as me & mom), who is your facebook friend... And she took back her maiden name after the divorce... oops, there goes my financial identity.

The short answer is nothing in the cloud is safe. Even something innocent can hurt you. Honestly even your posts (and mine) on slashdot can come back to haunt you in the future. You may think I'm a bit paranoid, but how many people still think that after the Snowden NSA leaks?

Now, here we are on slashdot, many of us are tech geeks, and some of us even know better. Even some of us that know better can do stupid things. If we do these stupid things, how bad is the average facebook user?

It has happened as predicted.

Wrong.

Most people above some income simply do not spend any real percentage of their income on purchases

BS... Stop pulling "facts" out of thin air!

And if real journalism isn't dead, someone is darn sure trying to make it so: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2346744/Journalist-Michael-Hastings-told-friends-needed-radar-just-hours-died-fiery-car-crash.html

You stopped just short of where I was hoping you would go - Narcissism.

Facebook is a mirror and Twitter is a megaphone, according to a new University of Michigan study exploring how social media reflect and amplify the culture's growing levels of narcissism.

Facebook offers the chance to seek approval and validation, as well as feedback to alter your behavior - the link refers to this as "curating" your online presence. If you do curating that steps over into reputation management, you can look like you're trying to hide something instead of show something.

LinkedIn and similar sites about careers and such are still social media, but they are more about professional networking to increase the chances of you knowing the right people for a job change. Almost goes without saying these sites are not helpful when you are new to a career, unless you know key people, in which case you're already set.

The specific personality they want may be a narcissistic extrovert, who would do well in banking and finance, or as a CxO. Perhaps they are looking for sociopathic tendencies, because they tend to rise to the top. Or maybe they know better.

It's not just about introversion/extroversion - there is a huge amount of insight that a person will get in how you choose to express yourself, maybe not to the point of individual personality disorders, but just a gut feeling that someone is a little too this or that.

I have a tendency to detect flaws in logical arguments, or basic failure to reason, and it drives me nutso. I have posted many a tirade here pointing out those flaws, even when I agree with the premise. Sometimes people correct me, and I learn. I post mostly anonymously so I can float some trial balloons from time to time and see what gets shot down. My online presence is finding and pointing out flaws, or arguing the other side so that people can either see their own flawed rationalization or actually strengthen their argument. My job involves finding problems with requirements, design, or architecture, and being able to argue that point, so now that I've considered it for the first time, I see it as a natural extension.

1. Do not create an unnatural online presence - only do what feels right, which could be nothing at all
2. Do not create something that feels burdensome to manage, as it will go stale and you will look silly when I interview you
3. Do look at what other people have done. A lot of it has built up over time, time that you may not have. Nothing you can do about that.
4. If your employer wants your online passwords, and you don't have them, they may not believe you. You don't want to work for that company, not one bit
5. To follow from that, if your online presence helps you get a job, did you really want that job? Or would you prefer a harder-to-find employer that fits your style better?
6. Online presence means people can troll or otherwise make you look bad. Even if you do not allow comments, or use a platform that lends itself to discussion, they can show up in search results with a clear link back to your presence. It's just something to consider when you decide where and now to set up, or not to.

Dude! You are such a master of conflating your hate of anything Muslim with anything else.
I am 100% certain that there is a yogurt advertisement somewhere that you see as evil muslimy propaganda.

So it's wonderful to see you conflating that door with so called "Sharia courts".
Which are nothing else but a place for Muslims to go and talk it out before going to court - unlike in your mind where I'm guessing they are something between Mola Ram's sacrifice chamber and inquisition court against white people.

There you go conflating in a single breath...

Dude, when English people are not allowed to fly the English flag or paint it on their house door because it may be 'offensive' then you have already lost. The rulings of Sharia courts are enforced by the real courts (and therefore by the entire power of the state, police, military whatever).

And there you go "thinking of children...

As for "only willing participants" being subject to Sharia - well what about the most vulnerable, women and children? They are subject to Sharia without much choice.

Meanwhile, back in reality... The text you linked is a cherrypicked version of this Daily Mail article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2327441/Steven-Rolfe-Ex-soldier-told-repaint-St-Georges-flag-door-housing-association-deemed-offensive-distressing.html

Which is so funny, cause the original has this HILARIOUS bit in it.

Muslim groups have criticised the housing company's stance. Ali Anwar, a Muslim representative on the Preston faith forum, said: 'As far as Iâ(TM)m concerned, a man's home is his castle, and he should be allowed to express himself as he wishes.

'This is political correctness gone mad. As a Muslim it really frustrates me that organisations become overly politically correct and make issues and tensions where there aren't any. They don't speak for the Muslim community.

âThe flag of St George needs to be reclaimed from the far right. There is nothing offensive about the flag and anyone who is proud to be English should be able to fly it.'

AHAHAHA! HE-LAAAARRY-E-US!
Ebil mussies actually support the guy who painted the flag!

Except in your sick and deranged mind.

Because it leads to the ability to spread propaganda or misinformation (especially if someone hacks it!) to everyone with a smartphone and since it's "official" people will be less apt to question it.

Sure, the Montana zombie attack was pretty funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7pNAhENBV4

But when the AP (just one of many sources for news on Twitter) had their Twitter hacked to say that there was an attack on the White House, the stock market plunged: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2313652/AP-Twitter-hackers-break-news-White-House-explosions-injured-Obama.html

Now imagine if something like that AP tweet was sent to every smartphone in America. It wouldn't be pretty.

You're welcome. Yes, "for self-defined values of reasonable and interesting" is part of some deep deep question...

By the way, on DVT and nutrition and lifestyle from Dr. Fuhrman and Dr. Weil:
http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/healthy-pregnancy-coumadin-vitamin-k-and-a-plantbased-diet.html
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART03146/Phlebitis.html

See also my other posts on this article, like:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3862853&cid=44008655

I started using a treadmill workstation in part to try to reduce the risk of things like DVT and similar issues from working a lot with computers (and a treadmill is better than a standing desk in that sense).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2011216/How-sitting-desk-long-deadly-blood-clot.html

But once there are clots, dealing with them is more problematical.

Yes that douchebag move used to work earlier - make fun of the people who accuse the government of secretly monitoring communications and call them 'silly'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2115871/The-CIA-wants-spy-TV-Agency-director-says-net-connected-gadgets-transform-surveillance.html

In the De Menezes case, the police claims were challenged by Underground staff. Perhaps they'll still get away with quite a lot of misconduct, but every lie they have to construct to do so increases the chance that they will be seen through.

Actually this is a perfect example of how claims of unavailable evidence can help convict police. London Underground reported that the cameras were definitely functional, thereby helping to expose the cover-up. If there had been no CCTV cameras in the station, it's probable the final charges wouldn't have been as high as they were.

The majority of Americans (1) don't understand the extent of the surveillance, and (2) don't understand why privacy is so important.

I totally believe this poll.

This article says that 70% of Americans don't know what the constitution is: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1368482/How-ignorant-Americans-An-alarming-number-U-S-citizens-dont-know-basic-facts-country.html

Yes, exactly! That's the heart of the issue!

Recently, I had a very interesting conversation with a relative who's a bank economist.

To make a long story short ...

The reason why college costs have risen so much in the last couple of decades is because our colleges are doing the job that our k-12 schools should be doing. That's why college has become the new "high school diploma" is because high school sucks - our public schools have failed. They are not teaching the things they need to teach and as a result, our colleges and universities have to take up the slack.

This survey and the parent comment shows the problem with this.

And one of the reasons why our schools are failing is that instead of educating am electorate, they have been pushed into educating workers - and still failing at that.

The majority of Americans (1) don't understand the extent of the surveillance, and (2) don't understand why privacy is so important.

I totally believe this poll.

This article says that 70% of Americans don't know what the constitution is: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1368482/How-ignorant-Americans-An-alarming-number-U-S-citizens-dont-know-basic-facts-country.html

The police have had body mounted cameras in the UK for 5 years.

The only news here is that they've started using them in Melton (a medium size town in the Midlands) and presumably the tech has improved.

Has our society become so timid and fearful that we are willing to sacrifice long cherished rights to freedom, liberty and privacy to the state in return for a dubious promise of security?

I say dubious, because for all the vaunted survelliance ongoing right now, it failed to stop the Woolwich stabbing attack. It failed to stop the Boston marathon bombings.

In all the gruesome examples you cited, note that the acts of terrorism took place despite all the surveillance already taking place then. The effort has failed. How much more freedom and privacy will you demand the public sacrifice in order to achieve greater efficacy?

I think we are on a very slippery slope, where the temptation is all too great for the ruling parties to take the path of least resistance and extend the coverage gradually to all undesirables and enemies of the state - from terrorists to child pornographers to murderers to robbers to copyright infringers and finally to common members of the public. If you think this is impossible, look to China where it is happening even as we speak. The Chinese government even justified its censorship and surveillance of the internet on the basis of public security in a White Paper , including the following gem :-

China advocates the rational use of technology to curb dissemination of illegal information online. Based on the characteristics of the Internet and considering the actual requirements of effective administering of the Internet, it advocates the exertion of technical means, in line with relevant laws and regulations and with reference to common international practices, to prevent and curb the harmful effects of illegal information on state security, public interests and minors.

What lies at the end of the slippery slope? Alan Moore might have the answer. I suggest you look at his book, it is an intriguing read.
   

I'm afraid that without the unpleasant consequences of martyrdom the standard social inertia cannot be overcome. It is the brutality of the oppression of the martyr that incites the rebellion, not his call for social change. The martyr accepts that he's going to be oppressed and acts for change anyway. That is what makes martyrs special. We had this need long before the time of Jesus and I don't expect an end to it in my lifetime.

The law is wrong and needs to be changed. He did, in fact, break the law: he divulged state secrets entrusted to him under threat of severe penalty for disclosure. I believe he did the right thing, but it was still illegal. If you have strong moral convictions but not the will to expose yourself to punishment you should avoid this situation because the internal conflict between your will to do the right thing and your fear of punishment can drive you insane. In that case you are not martyr material.

Since this is the NSA he had to know they would find him - that's what they do. By outing himself he probably avoids some extrajudicial retirement. Nobody from here out is going to believe he locked himself in a duffel bag, or died of autoerotic asphyxiation, or overdosed on bath salts.

I'm not saying that he should be punished - only that he will. They'll get Julian Assange one day too, even if his punishment is to be hunted to the end of his days. By dragging it out so long that the defiant act becomes disassociated in the public mind with the tyrannical punishment the authorities may be doing themselves a favor and blunting the rebellion. But eventually Caesar gets what is Caesars until Caesar is no more.

Anyway, what do you care? By your own account you fled. You should probably fix or prevent the problems in your new home wherever it is. All politics are local. If things get too tough in your new home you can always find another one more to your liking. People who flee tyranny also do not martyrs make. Fleeing tyranny is for most the wisest course until there is no place to turn. If you've go the wit and will to make it anywhere and lack anchors like family and tradition, going to where the field is ripe with berries and the wolves are more like dachsunds is just smart. Win wherever you are! If things are going like you think our generation's version of the underground railroad is going to need another end. By building up resources to shelter refugees you can be that end. That seems to be a role you're more suited to than taking up arms against the tyrant.

Certainly if you intend to act, this is not the place to say so.

Just recently there was a "scientific study" that claimed that cancer was caused by the excesses of modern life. They claimed this only on the fact that they could not find any cancer in egyptian mummies.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1320507/Cancer-purely-man-say-scientists-finding-trace-disease-Egyptian-mummies.html

Well, those pseudo scientists certainly got their well deserved "Grog's Revenge".

They're used to earthquakes and tsunamis and know that there isn't that much that can be done to prevent those disasters.

There isn't much that can be done... except of course for building a huge sea wall.

What do you mean, "now".

Here are six mass graves discovered this week, in Jaffa, full of Arab native civilians "cleansed" from their city in 1948.

'The remains belong to people of different ages, including women, children and the elderly, some of which bear signs of violence.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2334205/Mass-grave-uncovered-containing-dozens-Palestinians-killed-1948-war-founded-Israel.html

Here's an explanation from the last time the media tried to report on time-cloaking. I think it came off a little more clearly.

If you'd just bother to read the page you linked for reference, you'd see this:

Since the mid1990s, Monsanto indicates that it has filed suit against 145 individual U.S. farmers for patent infringement and/or breach of contract in connection with its genetically engineered seed but has proceeded through trial against only eleven farmers, all of which it won.[131] The Center for Food Safety has listed 112 lawsuits by Monsanto against farmers for claims of seed patent violations.[132] The usual claim involves violation of a technology agreement that prohibits farmers from saving seed from one season's crop to plant the next. One farmer received an eight-month prison sentence for conspiracy to commit fraud during litigation with Monsanto[133] in addition to having to pay damages.[134]

Monsanto sued the Pilot Grove Cooperative Elevator in Pilot Grove, Missouri, on the grounds that by cleaning harvested seeds covered by Monsanto's patents so that farmers could replant them, the elevator was inducing them to infringe Monsanto's patents. The Pilot Grove Cooperative Elevator had been cleaning conventional seeds for decades before the development of genetic engineering and developments in patent law led to the existence of issued patents that cover seeds.[135]

In one case in 2002, Monsanto mistakenly sued Gary Rinehart of Eagleville, Missouri for patent violation. Rinehart was not a farmer or seed dealer, but sharecropped land with his brother and nephew, who were violating the patent. Monsanto dropped the lawsuit against him when it discovered the mistake.[135]

If you'd truly like to know more, you can start on these different themes about Monsanto and RoundUp:
Killing 90% of amphibians
Wiping out bee colonies
Killing thousands of farmers
Causing widespready obesity diseases

I'm sure this is just the tip of the iceberg. They will suck the planet and humanity dry, and vanish like a puff of smoke when everything collapses due to their greed and harmful actions. Make no mistake, Monsanto and the owners behind it will do everything in their effort to prevent being held accountable. Company accountability is almost non-existant by law anyway. So to expect anything better than amoral sociopathic behaviour from corporations is foolish, naive at best.

You mean as in being held accountable for the same laws, and having everything they do recorded on camera? Wow, enlightened England is so unique and smart, I wish we would have thought of that. And surely having a violent crime rate more than four times that of the US makes them more than four times better, right?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html

Clearly the problem is that America has too many guns.

You didn't do much research! This is a true story from 2010.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265136/NHS-relax-superbug-safeguards-Muslim-staff--just-days-Christian-nurse-banned-wearing-crucifix-health-safety-reasons.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7576357/Muslim-staff-escape-NHS-hygiene-rule.html

Already done :P

this is what the Afghan people deal with all the time.

The Afghan people are dealing with US and UK troops who risk their lives so girls can attend school. You say that these troops senselessly, randomly kill Muslims, but in fact they try to narrowly focus their use of force against Taliban members who throw acid on those schoolgirls, or launch poison attacks against those schoolgirls.

Fear mongering, indeed -- on your part.

well there's this guy

and then there's these guys

We're all just still waiting on the change to come.

The wait is over, it's here.

A special prosecutor in the IRS matter is inevitable
IRS Official Lois Lerner: 'I Have Not Done Anything Wrong'
IRS tea-party bloodbath continues in Congress, as evidence emerges that IRS's own internal probe ended in May 2012, six months before election, but was hidden from legislators
Report: 'Rogue' IRS Agent Claim Unraveling

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326897/Google-tax-avoidance-row-Internet-giant-accused-scandalous-tax-avoidance-scheme-whistleblower.html

NOBODY is saying this is going to wipe us out. Really.

Hansen is one of the most prominent AGW activists, former NASA employee, atmospheric scientist, and a guy testifying on these issues to Congress. He said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2311699/Could-Earth-barren-Venus-Climate-change-scientist-warns-planet-ice-free-human-free.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

In different words: you're a liar.

"The Gateway Pundit" the name pretty much makes clear this is NOT objective news

What was that intellectual coward? Afraid of looking at a website that doesn't fit your view point? That's okay. The story itself was in the daily mail, and it was reported to parliament, by in an independent body, as to the massive failings of the NHS in the UK. Oh and there were protests, they simply weren't covered in the media in either Canada, the US, or most of Europe. Not forgetting that this has been the subject policy of the NHS since the 70's.

Well would you look at that? Just one of hundreds of others.
Or here, or here, and so on, and so on, and so on.

The DailyMail has a still shot from the video: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2090070/Eoin-McKeogh-falsely-branded-thief-worlds-biggest-websites.html Quick YouTube search didn't come up with anything for me. Maybe "The Internet" already did it's job....

What fantastic gains:
Killing 90% of amphibians
Wiping out bee colonies
Killing thousands of farmers
Causing widespready obesity diseases

I'm sure there are lots more. This is just the tip of the iceberg. They will suck the planet and humanity dry, and vanish like a puff of smoke when everything collapses due to their greed and harmful actions.

Furthermore, the information would be available to the entire government, not just a single person.

There are two issues with this statement;
1. The "single person" has access to youtube and the internet and can post the video for anyone to view. Remember the blood in the river caught by a civilian drone? There are also many news outlets that will publicize it if it is important enough.
2. "The government" is not a monolithic organization. There are many competing agencies and departments who are competing with each other to make themselves look more important and therefore get a bigger budget. It is difficult enough to get two local police departments to work together let alone State and Federal agencies.

And unmanned drones are different from helicopters (and I don't think helicopters should be spying on anyone, either) in that they can be used en masse far more easily.

True, it is easier to use drones en masse much the same way it is easier to establish a manned base on the Moon compared with a manned base on Mars (neither of which are going to happen any time soon). To use drones en masse will take a lot of money, mostly in terms of pilot and technician salaries, which most police forces do not have. These slippery slope arguments, "A hundred today means a hundred thousand next year", are invalid. They are not being used en masse today or for the foreseeable future. Until then, and in the numbers they are being used they are a very useful tool.

Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

There is a lot of truth in that statement. If you don't want to get a speeding ticket then don't speed. I don't generally go about breaking laws but when I do I am willing to take the consequences..

As long as the government doesn't abuse me, all is well!

As long as the government doesn't abuse anyone, all is well! Fixed that for you. Any tool can be abused. Should night sticks taken form police because they could be used to beat up an innocent person? The protection comes in when someone does use the tool improperly. They need to be prosecuted and sent to jail as has happened many times.

If you have ever voted for a president you're a liar. Unless you voted for Martin Van Buren that is.

All presidents bar one are directly descended from a medieval English king

  12-year-old girl created family tree linking 42 of 43 U.S. presidents to King John of England, who signed Magna Carta in 1215

  Only eighth president, Martin Van Buren, was not related to John

Gun ownership among everyone in the U.K. is low. It was so low in WWII that ``The American Committee for defense of British Homes has organized to collect gifts of pistols, rifles, revolvers, shotguns (and binoculars) from American civilians who wish to answer the call and aid in defense of British homes'':

http://twinbuttebunch.org/index.php?fuseaction=misc.sendguns

I'm given to understand that my grandfather sent over a Remington No. 4 which an uncle of mine had cut down to a pistol....

This article indicates a dramatic uptick in gun crime (89%) in the U.K. though:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html

FWIW, I can't think of a single police force in the U.S. where regular police officers on patrol carry submachine guns.

Another article:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/12/11/gun-crime-soars-in-england-where-guns-are-banned-n1464528

An interesting statistic is that a home is burglarized when occupied ~13% of the time in the U.S., while that number is 47% in the U.K. --- my father worked as a prison guard, and a recurring theme among people serving time for robbery was the importance of ``casing the joint'' because one didn't want to risk confronting an armed home-owner.

and here's an article which argues about statistical reporting:
http://www.theendrun.com/larry-pratt-british-gun-crime-stats-a-sham

and here're some hard numbers:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list

A government strong enough to protect you from everything, is strong enough to take everything from you.

William

He's got nothing on Prince Phillip.

But to answer your question, he hasn't done anything for most of them other than being present at some event or being where he's at in the royal family. Explanation of many of the medals.

I would disagree. It's nice to think that royaly has some for of power in the country, but in reality they do not (at least, not in the UK). The Queen's speech will have been written for her by Parliament, so in instances like this, her opinions are not really her own. Many Brits will agree (though not all), that having a monarchy does a great deal of good for our nation and the commenwelth, strengthening reltationships, and providing a massive tourist industry. Worth every penny in my books.

you having a laugh?? this is the 21st century! why the hell should an accident of birth dictate your station in life or the influence you have over affairs of state???
As it happens the queen and prince Charles DO have a fair bit of say and have actually VERY much influenced things and can VETO bills and acts of parliament and have done so on various occasions
check these :-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jan/14/secret-papers-royals-veto-bills
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2262613/Queen-Prince-Charles-given-39-chances-veto-legislation-dont-want-law.html
and to be quite frank FUCK THAT.
they also cost the tax payer a fortune but the main point being... why the fuck should some unelected bunch have the right to veto democratically proposed and approved acts and bills just because of an accident of birth.???
value for money my aching ass , it's an affront to democracy and this idiocy has no place in the 21st century... not at all

What makes you think that ordinary ground based cars don't collide with buildings right now?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2204373/Couples-lucky-escape-speeding-car-crashes-UPSTAIRS-bedroom.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/9950976/Audi-TT-takes-off-and-crashes-into-house.html

You say this but meanwhile in other countries teens are being shaken down by cops to make sure they aren't carrying screwdrivers and people talk about making kitchen knives that cannot be used to stab someone and do it with a straight face.

http://www.dailybulldog.com/db/features/man-arrested-following-screwdriver-stabbing/
http://www.insight-security.com/facts-knife-crime-stats.htm
http://allamericanblogger.com/13474/in-london-its-illegal-to-carry-a-screwdriver-without-a-good-reason-by-the-way-knife-crime-is-skyrocketing/

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/british-doctors-call-for-ban-on-long-kitchen-knives-to-end-stabbings/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1192969/Pointless-The-new-kitchen-knife-chops-wont-stab.html

What's next, bats that can't be used to clobber someone? You call US nuts?! If people want to hurt one another they will find a way....

P.S. OMG they actually made such a knife! Sure hope no one decides to slash someone with it - then what?

Here is another source showing global warming slowing down and even reversing some cases!

I am a former Alaskan. Tell that to the Alaskans where May first 60 degree days hit and leaves start appearing on the trees when it just hit 4 a night or two ago and the snow hasn't even melted yet?

Before you say climate != weather, check this graph out? For 13 years straight it has persistently getting colder. The UK is getting colder every year as well. The climate of the world did get warmer starting in the 1970s but it is reversing now. It is not just Alaska or the UK.

I think our calculations on CO2 are way off.

The amount of skill and equipment you need to gather to put together a Sten has been a barrier for them being home made for criminal purposes in the UK since WW2.

Not too much of a barrier, it seems.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2165531/Its-wild-wild-West-Midlands-Homemade-gun-Uzis-Ak47s-make-huge-haul-firearms-seized-police-just-year.html

Pretty much every developed nation outside the US is a testament to how gun control is possible and can make society better.

Depends on what one considers "better". The people featured in the video linked below might disagree with your premise. "Gun control" didn't work out very well for them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUmKT43j4Tc

Strat

Let's see how you survive in an airtight chamber with pure oxygen

Didn't Michael Jackson used to sleep in this environment? Yep... it's right here in the Daily mail, complete with creepy picture http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1195845/Michael-Jacksons-world-He-slept-oxygen-tent-best-friend-Bubbles-chimp.html

Gosh I miss that guy.

It's a hypothetical situation.

But not difficult to find news reports of similar shootings, jealous husbands/lovers, accidental shootings, mistaken identity.

For example, death facilitated by "law abiding citizens" with guns.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083886/Robin-Heidt-Wife-affair-brother-law-drove-gun-family-speaks-time.html
http://www.durhamregion.com/news/crime/article/1610791--documentary-probes-accidental-shooting-of-former-oshawa-teen
http://jonathanturley.org/2013/03/20/homeowner-shoots-and-kills-teen-who-entered-wrong-home-after-party/
http://www.spectacle.org/996/who.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270105/Phillip-Walker-Sailers-69-accused-killing-Rodrigo-Abad-Diaz-22-pulled-driveway-house.html
http://theadvocate.com/home/4109368-125/death-of-exchange-student-painful

I suppose, in the end it depends if you consider those deaths "for the greater good" - an acceptable consequence of liberal gun control.

It's a hypothetical situation.

But not difficult to find news reports of similar shootings, jealous husbands/lovers, accidental shootings, mistaken identity.

For example, death facilitated by "law abiding citizens" with guns.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083886/Robin-Heidt-Wife-affair-brother-law-drove-gun-family-speaks-time.html
http://www.durhamregion.com/news/crime/article/1610791--documentary-probes-accidental-shooting-of-former-oshawa-teen
http://jonathanturley.org/2013/03/20/homeowner-shoots-and-kills-teen-who-entered-wrong-home-after-party/
http://www.spectacle.org/996/who.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270105/Phillip-Walker-Sailers-69-accused-killing-Rodrigo-Abad-Diaz-22-pulled-driveway-house.html
http://theadvocate.com/home/4109368-125/death-of-exchange-student-painful

I suppose, in the end it depends if you consider those deaths "for the greater good" - an acceptable consequence of liberal gun control.

At best, they send you money..