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Like a government police force or army? Yeah, that's why we have the second amendment.

Q. How many people were killed by governments around the world in the twentieth century?
A. Over half the current population of the United States.

• 170 million killed in "conflicts of a non-international charater, internal conflicts and tyrannical regime victimization"
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How the availability of guns affect crime is beside the point. It seems the grand-parent post alluded to it. You seem to concur. So allow me to drop all ambiguity and state it plainly for those who would consider greater gun control measures.

Though you may consider it antiquated, the second amendment is there for a good reason. Just like the first. Just like the third. Take away the second amendment and Kent State becomes Tiananmen Square. Perhaps you would like to redefine/revise/revoke those other outdated amendments too? Change the meaning of "Support our troops" from tying a yellow ribbon around your tree to bunking a couple of soldiers in your spare bedroom perhaps? For the greater good, right comrades? Though it is the second amendment, removing your right to bear arms is the first step to removing all of your rights.

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Good point, let me summarize:

Tsunami....... - 6 hours - 140,000 dead - 23,000 per hour
Hitler+Germany - 6 years - 20,000,000 - 380 per hour
Saddam........ - 30 years - 2,000,000 dead - 8 per hour
Since Saddam.. - 1.5 years - 50,000 dead** - 4 per hour

This instance of Mother Nature wins by two orders of magnitude.

(**) Compromise with the famous 100,000 study. Clearly at least 20,000 deaths, probably more so I'll accept 50,000. I will not include 50,000 that died due to plain outright person to person non-insurrection related murders. And remember, of the 50,000, 20,000 were evil people who deserved to die. They were the 20,000 who helped murder the 2,000,000 over the prior 30 years.

786. See http://users.erols.com/chare/586.htm and http://users.erols.com/chare/786.htm for more info.

786. See http://users.erols.com/chare/586.htm and http://users.erols.com/chare/786.htm for more info.

I recently saw this and decided to quit buying their toys. Maybe I'm overreacting but I don't want my kids to be raised with things like this or this (and if you think those are fake, I ask you to look again at the site.)

I recently saw this and decided to quit buying their toys. Maybe I'm overreacting but I don't want my kids to be raised with things like this or this (and if you think those are fake, I ask you to look again at the site.)

I recently saw this and decided to quit buying their toys. Maybe I'm overreacting but I don't want my kids to be raised with things like this or this (and if you think those are fake, I ask you to look again at the site.)

Essentially you are correct in saying that the situation in the colonies around the world just after WWII set the stage for more bloody conflict.

However all the colonial powers have a share in the responsibility, not just France.

Also don't forget that in many instances of war of independance the US and the colonial powers were in face allies. This is the case for both Algeria and Indochina. The US were mortally afraid that communist regimes would emerge should the colonial power withdraw. In the case of Indochina and Algeria this is what happened in fact.

Remember that Ho-Chi-Minh first asked the US for help for getting rid of the French, but that the US administration turned him down. So the US must shoulder a part of the blame as well.

Finally conservatively the US killed 3 millions in Viet-Nam. I wouldn't want to start bandying around death tolls and getting into a dispute of which is the worst killer state.

It's not perfect, principally because it doesn't have a convention to enter long vowels (the ones with a bar over them in latin), but it sure got me through High School latin.

That was back in '97 or so, and I see Mr.Whitaker is still updating the page, so maybe it's much better now. He was trying at one point to have the parsed latin translate directly into english; IIRC he was having more trouble constructing correct english than with decoding the latin.

Here.

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I don't know how these figures work, but it looks like about 3,500,000 people died in the Vietnam war.

In the present Iraq war, I believe the number is somewhere in 1,000-20,000 people, I'm not really sure. Certainly not a million.

I have heard that the US military has worked very hard, and very successfully, to cut down numbers. I didn't hear this from pro-war people- I heard this from active pacifists who are dedicated to reducing deaths and suffering. They are very much against the war. But they have told me: The US military has done a lot of research in how to conduct a war with small loss of life, and they have been doing a good job of it.

This difference in loss in life- this could be considered a point for "things are getting much better."

I have been opposed to this war from the beginning. I have never been in favor of it. But to compare it to the Vietnam war seems to be a bit much, based on the very different numbers of deaths.

Silence.

I'm quite fed up with these noisy computers. I have 4 of them at home, and except for the laptop, they all generate much noise, because they heat so much that every little piece, CPU first, needs a fan. I hardly can hear me think anymore. One of these systems acts as a server that I keep up at night. I did my best to make it go silent but I can still hear it behind the door.

In some way it means the same as another post right before mine: low power dissipation. This value has dramatically increased in the past few years, in the name of the top speed race, but at the price of our tranquility.

It also joins the view of anther poster that most users don't need the extra power offered by the latest CPUs. I certainly don't, so I'd rather use a quiet 1GHz machine than a noisy 3GHz one.

This is why I'm quite sad to see that you cannot easily buy Transmeta-based systems. This is exactly the kind of CPU I would enjoy, if only my online computer parts store had that available. What I am really looking for is a completely fanless system.

Wouldn't eliminating the Republican's "free speech" on the web via DDOS attacks basically amount to cyber-terrorism?

Apparently the rationale is that another person is only open-minded if they think the same way as the first open-minded person. And if that isn't the case then, well, they're a bigoted Nazi and warrant being shouted down.

Hint! Hint! You wouldn't want Bush to go for more governmental control of the Internet in order to fight all kinds of cyber-terrorism, wouldn't you?

Too late. That was already planned at the last Rightwing Conspirary meeting.

And - if this really hits the Republicans, it won't be long before Bush's spin-doctors claim the whole idea was, in fact, initiated by Al Qaeda members.... ...remember how, in front of the UN in the run-up to the Iraq war, a couple of trucks in the middle of the desert were "mobile bio weapon research/development platforms"? (Exactly those that, like all the weapons of mass distruction, can't be found now)...

Throwing together Al Qaeda and Iraw randomly like that is what throws Democrats into a tizzy. As for Iraq's chemical weapons capability we should ask the Iranians who were on the receiving end of chemical attacks during the Iran-Iraq war. Or the Kurds, Iraqi citizens, in Anfal. It can't be disputed that even if at D-Day Saddam didn't have piles of chemical warheads there's still 1) the ability to manufacture chemical weapons, and more importantly 2) the willingness to use them either on other nations or Iraq's own people.

And if this is any indication of the extents they'll go to in hiding multi-ton aircraft I'm curious as to how far they'll go to hide a few hundred pound drums?

It's estimated that over 20 MILLION Soviets died during WWII. Irregardless of politics, they bore the brunt of Hitler's forces. (No other nation's death toll is HALF that) If not for those "peasants," history would be drastically different. Your glib attitude to the part the USSR played in WWII makes me think you're just another victim of the American propaganda machine. Sure-- "John Wayne, American" always saved the world single-handedly. GaFC!

Except that with few exceptions, more people have been killed at the hands of their own governments than have ever died from foreign or even domestic terrorist networks.

Excellent point. Let's put some hard numbers with that assertion. Oh, somewhere in the neighborhood of 170,000,000 civilians killed by government in the 20th century. How many military deaths? 33,000,000. Total, 203 Million. That's right, nearly 6 times as many people died at the hands of government than died fighting for it. 83,000,000 died as a result of tyranny and genocide in the last 100 years, but no, we don't need liberty or habeas corpus or the right to bear arms anymore. Those things are so 18th century.

You want to know what drives someone to fly a jet full of passengers into one of the tallest buildings in the world? Some idiot is saying it's because they hate freedom and democracy... I have a different theory.

• Killed through U.S. foreign policy since WWII: 10,774,706 to 16,856,361 (1945-May 2003)

If you look at this PDF file, you'll see that typical power dissipation of the 1.8 GHz G5 is 42 watts. Assuming that's 75% of the maximum, we still end up with a maximum power rating of 56 watts. In comparison, typical power dissipation of an AMD Barton running at 1.8 GHz is around 54 watts typical, 68 watts maximum; an Intel P4 at 2.8 GHz (the slowest I can find readily available where I live) is rated at 56-68 watts (same page).

The other thing to bear in mind is: that thermal rating for the 970 is based upon figures for the 130 nm process. The die shrink to 90 nm should reduce it.

I don't think cooling is a major problem. It may take a bit of engineering work, but there's nothing particularly hard, I'd imagine. Yes, it's more than they've had to deal with when using the G4, but at least they don't have power constraints (which they will when it comes time to slide the G5 into a PowerBook.)

Perhaps you should build a system with an Athlon, but just underclock and undervolt the heck out of it. In previous Slashdot discussions of the C3, I have read claims that an Athlon running at around 600 MHz is drastically more powerful than a C3 running at full speed.

I did a quick google and found a howto from 2002:

Ultimate Underclock & Undervolt Project

Here's a really cool resource: a list of processors and their electrical and heat numbers.

http://users.erols.com/chare/elec.htm

If you want to try this, I suggest you use a Barton core Athlon. If you want to use an Intel chip, the best would be if you could get a Pentium M somehow (the laptop CPU) but maybe if you could find a 130 nm version of the Pentium 4 it would be okay. But Athlons should be better for an underclocking project because they get more done per clock cycle.

steveha

Most of the wars in this list of 20th century wars don't have any videogames. Maybe I should send the link to some game-makers.

Hi,

Besides THE Language list (which is also linked to in the story), I also like the Dictionary of Programming Languages, which includes the Language Type and a Description / History for MANY Programming Languages.

In a more "practical" side, it's also interesting / funny to read 99 Bottles of Beer - one program in 620 variations

Interesting: can you give me a link to more info on the functionality of the driving controller?

Quadrature Encoding (complete with picture)

The signals from the controller make it look like the user is pressing left, then left-down, then down, then off. In fact, in a pinch you can use the joystick to simulate a driving controller (not recommended).

In the game, you keep the previous state of the left and down bits and compare with the current state. If the states are different, and table lookup gives the direction the user rotated the controller. At 60 times / second, it's fairly accurate.

A four-bit encoder would have been possible, but the manufacturing tolerance would have been more expensive to implement.

Searching Google for '2600 driving' returned this link in the top 20.

In case you have any questions about his book, Ken Brown can be found here or here. (Source.)

If you're serious about quiet (or preferably, silent) computing, the most valuable site I know of is Silent PC Review.

I heard that they got into a bit of a legal problem over this... turns out, due to a case of mistaken identity, a few agencies were convinced that there was a lien on the car... Naturally, the repo men had a bit of trouble recovering it. A few dead and some very strange occurrences in the Arizona area all in the mid 80's.

I think they made a documentary of it.

Kismet sniffs on the link level (basically the level above).

New as of 1968
Can anyone say MUMPS?

Massachusetts General Hospital Utility Multi-Programming System.

MUMPS origin

The latest version of the MUMPS language/database is Cache

There is even a free version called GT/M

Sanchez GT/M

The story of MUMPS is actually a sad tale of a bad language with a great Database.

Origin in 1967
ISO standard 11756 (1991).
ANSI standard: "MUMPS Language Standard", X11.1 (1977, 1984, 1990)
Effectivly killed in the late 90's by Intersystems.

The hallmarks of M were the very terse sytax and fast eficient databases.

99 bottles of beer program example

R O,C,B,b U 0 F X B,O,C,B,C W "Take one down, pass it around,",! S b=b-1 X B,O W ".",! H:'b W !
W " on the wall"
W ",",!
H 1 W $S(b:b,1:"No more")_" bottle" W:b-1 "s" W " of beer"
99

My signature is a complete DSM program that prints out a formatted, justified report of all the prime numbers between 1 and 1000.

Yeah, he conveniently forgot the part the Russians took in the war. To make it easier for the parent I included a picture.

The Romans also understood this: http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/us_rome.htm: 'The Empire lasted as long as it did because the Romans weren't idiots. When the governor of Egypt sent Tiberius more taxes than he was supposed to, Tiberius reminded him: "I want my sheep shorn, not shaven."'

Reading up on Bush's plans/vision, it would seem they understand this too (http://www.newamericancentury.org/).

I suppose every time you use windows, icons, your mouse, or pointers, it just pisses you off that a bunch of Smalltalkers at Parc years ago foisted that on us! And damn that MVC concept too. And the whole messaging thing, and first class objects, and, well all that other OO stuff, bunch of stuff Smalltalkers foisted on us. I guess they foisted garbage collection onto Java too, huh?

Okay, now off-topic but all Smalltalk did was put these things together into one package:

Mouse/Pointer: Doug Englebart
Menus, drag and drop, word processor, etc: Ivan Sitherland.
OO: Simula
Garbage Collection: LISP (and others)

All these things came well before Smalltalk. Smalltalk isn't even the same OO as the successful object-oriented languages: Java, C#, C++, SIMULA. SWT is good because it came from good people at IBM and uses native widgets, not because it came from Smalltalk. For example, it has manual allocation/free of resources -- not very smalltalk-like, is it?

To your links, I should like to see something better. So, I dilligently did a search, and maybe government sources aren't your friend. So I figure maybe one conspiracy site deserves another.

Between these two non-government entities, both having belief in the conspiracy view - the divergence of facts is too great for me to fathom. I am left somewhere in the middle, believing myself that the NTSB probably found the culprit. If there were a cover-up, it would seem that they would have been given impirical evidence (planted by the appropriate agency) to clearly show exactly what it was supposed to be. The NTSB official report was not conclusive. Although Section 1.12.7 of the official NTSB report is very good reading. I expect more than this out of a cover-up conspiracy.

Basically, because the NTSB report is not conculsive, there is no convincing you that your position is wrong, and there is no convincing me that it was definately a cover-up.

Second, I'd like everybodies suggestions for other cool devices from anime you'd like to see created in real life.

Here's a couple I'd like.
An e-frame from Exosquad.
Obligatory Veritech Fighter.
A new keyboard setup, with hand enhancement like in Ghost in the Shell.
Kaneda's bike.
Make people fear you even if you're old with the Roujin Z setup.
A pokeball, so I can finally do something about that annoying dog next door.
Appleseed had the right idea.
You know you want capsules like in DBZ.
Um....I guess I want a Chii Persocon too.....
I'm done.

There's lots of ways to compare conflicts -- obviously there's no objective way to compare the last 60 years to some other point in history. But it doesn't require a stretch of the imagination to appreciate the importance of the wars we have seen since WWII. Lessee... this page says around 8 million died in WWI. Vietnam had around 1 million deaths. That's only an order of magnitude for a huge international war, compared to a more modern single-nation war (that was only diplomatically a police action).

I found this page which gives a lot more statistics for deaths in modern wars and conflicts. The statistics are kind of scattered, but I think that's because the sources are themselves so scattered. Anyway, it offers something more concrete to think about.

Have the higher-ups in the military gone insane? It seems to me that they are searching for the biological equivalent of Zero Point Energy.

It's all just a completely ridiculous idea, to me.

The best that they can do would be to pack all the nutrients they would need into as small of a package as they can or suppress regular biological urges, but that's not healthy, especially for someone who may be undergoing intense physical activity for five days straight.

check out this
scrolling down we get this list,

The country-by-country medians for military personnel killed in the war are:

* USSR: 10.0M
* Germany: 3.5M
* China: 2.05M
* Japan: 1.5M
* USA: 0.4M
* Romania: 0.3M
* Yugoslavia: 0.3M
* UK: 0.28M
* Italy: 0.23M
* France: 0.21M
* Hungary: 0.14M
* Poland: 0.125M
* TOTAL: 19.0M

looks like we all owe stalin a big fat thank you.

What? They had an election 6 months before, which Allende won! And just before the coup, Allende was trying to organise a plebiscite. How were they not democratic? Because Chile refused to compile with the US-styled corporatised model of democracy? For your information, many people don't consider the US system to be particularly democratic. Here's a link by the Federation of American Scientists.

And even if we admit your charge that the government wasn't legitimate, how was the regime (Pinochet) that replaced it any more legitimate? You don't encourage democracy by making a country less democratic.

Would I also conclude by your omission of Iran that you agree that the US has overthrown at least one democracy?

In the Vietnams, the U.S. was not up for election. Ho would have likely lost in the South; to this day Ho is to the Vietnamnese like Hitler is to Jews.

Firstly, bulldust regarding elections. Here's a link regarding comments by Eisenhower stating that the Communists would have won the election fair and square.

WRT Hilter, Godwin's Law. But biting your troll, Ho did not indiscriminately slaughter six million Vietnamese in an attempt at genocide. Don't trivialise the Holocaust, Hilter tried to wipe out an entire race of people! Like China, Vietnam merely wanted to modernise without being taken advantage of colonially. And anyhow, US killed approximately 4 times more than the deaths caused by the Vietnam government after the war (most of which were due to boat people). Here and Here. If Ho was like Hilter, the US was four times worse - is that what you're saying?

The protesters were pro-genocide.

Your point was that the French government should have listened to the protesters because they were in the majority. Were they, if so details please. Secondly, are you saying the protesters were literally saying "Kill the Jews". If so details please. If they weren't literally saying that, please convince me that they weren't simply angry at the Israeli government (something that even Israeli Jews are so-called guilty of).

This is really lame. Everything I wrote two posts ago still holds. Gimme some facts, gimme some decent arguments. Not US good, communism bad. Not US good, France bad. You are allowed to disagree with your government if they do bad things.

As a decent human being, accept that the US has done some really good things and some really evil things in the past 50 years. Supports the institution within the US that do good and campaign against those that do bad.

Try to advocate a more democratic approach to life and consider war as a measure of last resort. Stop supporting governments and companies that abuse human rights, but remember that invasion is rarely the answer. And don't lie or mislead the public (hint Saddam was NOT involved with 11-Sep-2001 attacks on NYC) because beyond that lies chaos. And finally, don't get suckered in by the belief that governments don't lie or cheat. I know Bush says Iraq was invade to liberate its people, but most evidence indicates otherwise.

What? They had an election 6 months before, which Allende won! And just before the coup, Allende was trying to organise a plebiscite. How were they not democratic? Because Chile refused to compile with the US-styled corporatised model of democracy? For your information, many people don't consider the US system to be particularly democratic. Here's a link by the Federation of American Scientists.

And even if we admit your charge that the government wasn't legitimate, how was the regime (Pinochet) that replaced it any more legitimate? You don't encourage democracy by making a country less democratic.

Would I also conclude by your omission of Iran that you agree that the US has overthrown at least one democracy?

In the Vietnams, the U.S. was not up for election. Ho would have likely lost in the South; to this day Ho is to the Vietnamnese like Hitler is to Jews.

Firstly, bulldust regarding elections. Here's a link regarding comments by Eisenhower stating that the Communists would have won the election fair and square.

WRT Hilter, Godwin's Law. But biting your troll, Ho did not indiscriminately slaughter six million Vietnamese in an attempt at genocide. Don't trivialise the Holocaust, Hilter tried to wipe out an entire race of people! Like China, Vietnam merely wanted to modernise without being taken advantage of colonially. And anyhow, US killed approximately 4 times more than the deaths caused by the Vietnam government after the war (most of which were due to boat people). Here and Here. If Ho was like Hilter, the US was four times worse - is that what you're saying?

The protesters were pro-genocide.

Your point was that the French government should have listened to the protesters because they were in the majority. Were they, if so details please. Secondly, are you saying the protesters were literally saying "Kill the Jews". If so details please. If they weren't literally saying that, please convince me that they weren't simply angry at the Israeli government (something that even Israeli Jews are so-called guilty of).

This is really lame. Everything I wrote two posts ago still holds. Gimme some facts, gimme some decent arguments. Not US good, communism bad. Not US good, France bad. You are allowed to disagree with your government if they do bad things.

As a decent human being, accept that the US has done some really good things and some really evil things in the past 50 years. Supports the institution within the US that do good and campaign against those that do bad.

Try to advocate a more democratic approach to life and consider war as a measure of last resort. Stop supporting governments and companies that abuse human rights, but remember that invasion is rarely the answer. And don't lie or mislead the public (hint Saddam was NOT involved with 11-Sep-2001 attacks on NYC) because beyond that lies chaos. And finally, don't get suckered in by the belief that governments don't lie or cheat. I know Bush says Iraq was invade to liberate its people, but most evidence indicates otherwise.

Buck_Wild wrote:
I think that all new TVs need to be attachable to a treadmill, and exercise bike, a stair climber, etc. that wil shut the device down if a certain cadence or time limit is not met.

Perhaps this bicycle-powered generator will help you:

http://www.gaiam.com/retail/product.asp?product_id =17330

And here's a guy who built his own:

http://users.erols.com/mshaver/bikegen.htm

Dr. Elizabeth Rauscher was there, speaking about her ELF work and project HAARP. Interestingly, she claims a very accurate prediction rate, but I'm told that the US Navy asked her to quit that line of investigation (they use ELF for long-range comms)

I find it funny that a country, so set against japan ignores its own atrocities, the only thing that killed more civilians then Mao was all of World War 2, and not even by that much.

Of course, December 28 is also the day of the slaughter of the innocent children: King Herodes heard of the messias being born and sought to stem this threat to his throne, and, failing to find the actual child, ordered that all children under 2 years old in Bethlehem be put to death.

That's funny, because I never used the word "reactor". I said "nuclear generator". Check my original post if you don't believe me. Of course, it would be even cooler if we took a few of these up with us. 7.5 kW, here I come! That is, if I can get the damn oil companies to leave me alone.

Zero Point Energy is the answer to all our energy problems, once we figure out how to tap in to the sea of energy all around us. It's really too bad that a lot of people who have even heard of ZPE -- but have not done any research themselves -- are convinced that it's the invention of crackpot conspiracy theorists.

The League of Nations was worldwide, it jsut lacked the US. I believe that even the UN doesn't contain every single state.

Admittedly it's a more productive approach than just saying "consciousness is intractable" and heading down to the bar or philosophy library (equally productive destinations). But it doesn't really explain anything, it just points to a new system (quantum tunnelling rather than electrochemical activity) that's harder to observe and understand.

I can't claim to have studied it in any depth, though, so if anyone can better expand on the state of the art I'd be very interested to read their comments.

Vietnam, sacrifice an entire generation? Nice histrionics. ~60,000 barely compares to conflicts the US has participatd in in the 20th century. For something that truly destroyed a generation, look further back in US history.

The Vietnam War barely edged out the Korean War WRT % of population dead, and I don't hear Korean War vets pissing and moaning.

>And of course this is just as true (if not more so) with
>the modern atheistic regimes. I would wager that Stalin's
>terror famine and various purges and show trials killed
>far more people (both in terms of percentage of population
>and in absolute numbers) than the inquisition and certainly
>far, far more than the Salem witch trials.

There's no evidence that these horrible "atheist" regimes of modern times are proportionally worse than their theistic counterparts, as this page demonstrates.

As for nitpicking the totals killed by the Inquisition (at least 32,000 - some place the number as high as 350,000) and the Salem witch trials, that rather seems to be missing the point. Those are only two out of thousands of examples of instances where the pious slaughtered those of another religion - or even members of their own religion - for some loonie religious cause. And that doesn't even take into consideration the Christian and Moslem slave trade out of Africa, which slaughtered at least 40 million over the centuries in which the trade operated, perhaps as many as 120 million. That latter figure would give the religious a healthy lead on the atheists in absolute numbers, not even taking into account the massive increase in global population that had taken place by the 20th century.

Of course, the Mongols make everybody look like amateurs. They slaughtered 40 million in the 13th century, putting them on par with Mao and WWII. That's pretty impressive, given that the global population at the time was under 500 million. China's population dropped from 115 million to 85 million between 1200 and 1300 as a result of their "efforts."

As the author of the site referenced above concludes:

"In a way, it's rather disheartening to realize that we can't smugly blame the brutality of the [20th] century on the Communists, or the imperialists, or the Moslem fundamentalists, or the godless. Every major category of human has done it's share to boost the body count, so replacing, say, Moslem rulers with Christian rulers, or white rulers with black rulers, is not going to change it at all."

>I'll start w/ 20 million in the Soviet Union,
>65 million under Mao and 2 million in Cambodia.

Again, meaningless statistics. You can no more blame every death on "atheism" than you can blame the deaths of those 15 million or so killed in the Pacific theater during WWII on Buddhism. Modern butchers have had a lot more raw material to work with than those in the past did, as this graph from the US Census Bureau demonstrates. Global population didn't hit 1 billion until around 1800. By the time of Stalin, Hitler, Mao and WWII, it was at over 2 billion. That, along with technological advances, made it possible for a truly stunning number of people to be slaughtered.

Your numbers for Mao and Pol Pot look a bit high according to this site, which provides pretty extensive analysis of 20th century bodycounts for various wars and atrocities.

Mao didn't set out to slaughter 65 million, by the way. 30 million were killed accidentally, during the ironically-named "Great Leap Forward," due to the famine caused by the idiotic economic "reforms" initiated by the Maoists. Although when dealing with human suffering on that scale, I don't think it matters much whether it's 30 million dead or 65 million dead. Either number is inconceivable.

Mao. Stalin. Pol Pot. Seems to me this is more an indictment of dictatorships than it is an indictment of any religious system (or lack thereof).

As for the proportion of population killed (which seems to me to be a more relevant measure, if you're attempting to compare religious, political or economic systems), check out the section on Proportionality from the same site mentioned above.

>I'll start w/ 20 million in the Soviet Union,
>65 million under Mao and 2 million in Cambodia.

Again, meaningless statistics. You can no more blame every death on "atheism" than you can blame the deaths of those 15 million or so killed in the Pacific theater during WWII on Buddhism. Modern butchers have had a lot more raw material to work with than those in the past did, as this graph from the US Census Bureau demonstrates. Global population didn't hit 1 billion until around 1800. By the time of Stalin, Hitler, Mao and WWII, it was at over 2 billion. That, along with technological advances, made it possible for a truly stunning number of people to be slaughtered.

Your numbers for Mao and Pol Pot look a bit high according to this site, which provides pretty extensive analysis of 20th century bodycounts for various wars and atrocities.

Mao didn't set out to slaughter 65 million, by the way. 30 million were killed accidentally, during the ironically-named "Great Leap Forward," due to the famine caused by the idiotic economic "reforms" initiated by the Maoists. Although when dealing with human suffering on that scale, I don't think it matters much whether it's 30 million dead or 65 million dead. Either number is inconceivable.

Mao. Stalin. Pol Pot. Seems to me this is more an indictment of dictatorships than it is an indictment of any religious system (or lack thereof).

As for the proportion of population killed (which seems to me to be a more relevant measure, if you're attempting to compare religious, political or economic systems), check out the section on Proportionality from the same site mentioned above.

You could probably do it pretty easily if it was something like "Dinosaurs for Hire" (first link i found here)

The AMD 80x86 processors have generally run hotter than Intel 80x86 processors.