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Per year: $28,368 in -state; $48,964 out-of state fro freshen then goes up to $31,080 $51,676 for in-state and out-of-state respectively for undergrad attendance.

So, for an out of state student that's hitting $200K - not including book$, room and board, and every other expense.

Oh, and the online course mean shit. Online learning is still considered a joke: it's too easy to cheat.

> Yes but how much would that cost now?

US News and World Report does probably the best-known ratings of universities. Here are the ratings for engineering programs at Georgia Tech:

#2 in Aerospace /Aeronautical / Astronautical

#3 in Biomedical

#2 in Chemical

#2 in Civil

#5 in Computer

#4 in Electrical / Electronic / Communications

#4 in Environmental / Environmental Health

For out-of-state students, the tuition for a Georgia Tech master's degree which he can do online (he'd probably like that) is $5,100. Here's the master's in computer science, as one example:
https://www.omscs.gatech.edu/p...

You CAN pay $12 for a cup of coffee, or $1. You can pay $21 for a Sekai-ichi apple, or take your pick of many delicious apples for 25 cents at your nearest grocery store. College is the same - if you totally ignore costs, spend like money is meaningless, you can radically overpay. You can spend $70K on an advanced degree in women's studies or Inuit history. Or you can spend your money like - it's your money. Shop for a good value.

In my case, I (recently) did a bachelor's degree program in which many of the courses were tied to industry certifications. For example, for a networking course the final exam was the Cisco CCNA. Because of that, half way through school I had already achieved multiple respected certifications, which doubled my income even before I finished my degree. I graduated with more money in the bank than I had when I started - the exact opposite of piling up student loan debt.

There are car dealers who will gladly charge you $30K for the same car you can buy elsewhere for $8K. Universities are no different.

It's almost like we have had an obesity epidemic for the past 40 years. HMMM I wonder why.

This might have something to do with it. I also think that there are other factors.

http://www.omscs.gatech.edu/pr...
"You gonna put down the shovel, or do you want to keep digging"

https://www.omscs.gatech.edu/p...

Again, you can spend $50,000 if you want to, or you can keep working at 7 Eleven if you choose. I'm getting my masters in a high-paying field for $5,000. What you do is your choice.

My Cisco CCNA cost me $400. ($300 for the exam, $100 for study materials, YouTube study videos free).

Because all poor people have $400, an internet connection, leisure time and more importantly, a job waiting for them. Make as many rehashes of the bootstrap cliche, but people can't make employment materialize through sheer force of will.

My masters degree in computer science from Georgia Tech will cost $5,600. That's $7,000 tuition minus $1,400 tax credit.

You forgot to mention the DeLorean and traveling back to the late 80's. A single year at Georgia Tech is $11,000 for a state resident after your tax credit, just for tuition and fees.

4. Talk to me about my investments.

So-called robo-advisors are already doing that in a limited way.

5. Diagnose my illness (without a doctor as the interface)

Again this is already happening.

6. Teach my kids.

It's already happening.

9. Rescue someone.

Well, for what it is worth Facebook apparently has an AI suicide prevention program. Rescuing someone does not necessarily require a physical act: mental problems are something that an AI might be able to help with.

Now it is certainly true that AI's roles in these areas are somewhat limited at the moment and there are somethings which it is hard to image AI being able to do within the foreseeable future. However, AI does not need to "do everything" to replace many jobs. If AI working in conjunction with a doctor lets that doctor diagnose 200 patients a day by identifying and dealing with the simple cases that reduces the need for doctors. Similarly if AI TA's let a professor teach 1,000 students effectively that reduces the need for teaching staff etc.

This is the way technology works: jobs change to do the work that technology cannot do with the result that a single human can do far more. Robots on assembly lines have not completely replaced all human workers but the work that humans on assembly lines do has changed to cover jobs that robots are not good at and to oversee the robots to fix things when they go wrong. In this way a handful of humans can run an assembly line that used to require a small army. This is not a bad thing: it lets us be far more productive with our time. However, care does need to be taken to ensure that it is possible for people to adapt to the changing jobs market and that things do not change so fast that it causes too much disruption for society to cope with.

Handled correctly changes like this give us more leisure time and a higher standard of living. Handled badly they can lead to civil unrest and worse.

Google docs is also improving and chrome browser is improving where google wants improvement. They want auto play videos, no matter what I do they sneak it in.

They are not good in lek. ( A lek is a clearing in the forest/woodland where male pheasants gather and strut. Females choose to mate with fancy foot work strutting males, in theory. In practice, it is crowd behavior. Females pick the male picked by most females. It is an unstable system. Using robots scientists could make the females gravitate towards one, and on command, the robots to another one and the females follow suite. My sincere sympathies to the frustrated males in that experiment, would perfectly understand them going postal ;-).

On platforms like Facebook, Twitter, the winner is whoever most of your friends and family pick, regardless of quality, price or security. It is a lek. It is very difficult to break into lek dominated apps. One can only wait for it to collapse (like myspace or geocities before that) and pick the pieces, and bide your time. Build capacity, build the technology to be ready to capitalize when the lek leader fumbles.

In personal computers Microsoft was an early lek winner. All the companies picked Microsoft because all other companies are picking microsoft. When it stumbled, Firefox pounced, when it was fending off firefox, Google pounced and reduced the cash flow from Office apps.

So all these me too platforms from google are simply waiting for a fumble by Facebook or Twitter or Apple.

http://irina.eas.gatech.edu/EA...

Seriously? Are you a fucking retard? The absorption and emission properties of CO2 have been known for over a century. I have to assume you are indeed a complete fucking moron.

http://irina.eas.gatech.edu/EA...

That would appear to be in violation of Georga's Open Records Act.
http://legal.gatech.edu/sites/...

Do any of the roads you're talking about have track conditions like this?

LOL. At least we see it coming! (at the rate of 10mm/year I think that I can out-run it). 70M years ago the sea level was 300 feet higher than it is today - so there is a long way to go! - I am sure that the coastline will be changing somewhat. Of course there was still plenty of dry land 70M years ago - or the dinosaurs would have been very unhappy! http://curry.eas.gatech.edu/Co...

The inventor of Google Glass is a Georgia Tech professor who I assume only showed up at Google because they wanted to make a product out of his research. Why should he keep hanging out there after the project is done when he could be in the Caribbean figuring out how to talk with dolphins instead? (Yes, that is actually what he's researching now.)

"We do not have 600GHz transistors"
We have faster transistors man

I was involved with a research meta-analysis during my graduate coursework and we found that students are overwhelmingly more receptive to learning programming when they have something visual that they can use to associate the code that they write to something actually happening. We didn't look at what kinds of problems or what visual output works best, but my opinion is that you could start with something like Lego Mindstorms (which has/had a drag-and-drop interface that can be used to arrange blocks of logic) or do some kind of video game programming. I learned via a tool called Jeroo [1] which was basically a simple video game that required input via programming rather than from controllers. You could also take some kind of open-source simple video game, remove some chunks of code, and have the students re-implement the code that was removed. You can use this as a building exercise, so they get to build their own video game that they can play by the time that the course is over. [1] - http://home.cc.gatech.edu/dorn...

A study from Georgia Institute of Technology find that students from University of Georgia are just jealous of their rad robo-bro who is so cool he's not even stoked about being on the cover of Popular Mechanics.

come on, do those University of Georgia people even lift? ;P

uh, no.

It's not mass?

Water makes a great shield for radation.

It's a low-density shield. Lots of launches would be required to lift the requisite amount of water.

(lead) causes a great deal of scatter

But it would be scattering the radiation *away* from the station, right? Because otherwise it wouldn't be shielding us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_protection#Shielding/

http://www.adl.gatech.edu/research/tff/radiation_shield.html/
How do present-day astronauts survive? The answer is - they can't for very long.
Veteran astronauts caught on Space Stations during such storms must spend their time inside specially-built chambers (generally made of plastic sheets, perhaps with some water bags around them) to ride out the storm - and be brought back to Earth as soon as possible. These are not options for long-term human habitats.

The bottom line is that radically new launch technology (that doesn't spray octillions of radioactive particles into the atmosphere during successful launches, much less during "mishaps") is needed before any science fiction dreams can come true.

If you know of a case which is convincing, please point me to it.

In simple terms, microwaves that will get through the atmosphere can't be focused tight enough to deliver the small blocks of power needed for military and niche markets. Lasers will deliver small blocks of power, but are blocked by clouds. The scale/frequency problem is in one of the graphs here:

http://www.sspi.gatech.edu/aia...

$145,000/kW translates into $1.80 per kWh.

But why, why, why don't we have more engineers in America. It's because this generation is stupid and lazy....

A few years back, a kid at Georgia Tech, Georgia's main engineering school, was arrested and jailed on terrorism charges for throwing dry ice "bombs" out his dorm window.

Georgians like their authoritarians

"what I'm not finding are what to know before you start, or what it takes to make the effort worthwhile"

No one can give you the answer to this until you can communicate what you want the space to accomplish. Think ahead one year, five years. What does your space look like? Who does it serve? What key points can you identify that tell you it's successful?

Write that down. Make it realistic, and make sure it excites you AND others. Start working back with what it takes to get there. Share this. Work on it with people that would be using the space.

Starting a shop is one step, keeping it up and running is another story. Hopefully this is still relevant:
1. How will it be maintained? This is different than a personal workshop, or one shared with just a few people or a company doing production. Tools in makerspaces often get repeatedly used by people who know little about them, this is a GREAT thing, but it can be brutal on the machines.

2. Is the goal to train people to use the tools? If so, how will you accomplish this effectively?

Misc. comments:
Artisan's Asylum and Maker-Works have both offered makerspace boot camps. These are more geared towards how to keep a space running/maintaining it rather than how to start. But they're both great learning opportunities (though not cheap, and full disclosure: I work for Maker-Works)

Eastern Michigan recently opened: https://www.egr.msu.edu/ecesho...

This group is doing some research into makerspaces & education: http://catlab.gatech.edu/

Awesome, it looks like this still gets updated: https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/...

Bilal Ghalib. If you have a budget to pay someone to get you started, hire this man. http://bilalghalib.com/

Most importantly, involve the community as much as possible.

I would be happy to chat more, feel free to shoot me an email: joshdont gmail

I would include all of those, except UTA, in the "and so on".

It's a bit disingenuous to list out the Ivys while only implying the public schools, considering that the point you were trying to make was that going to a good CS school is expensive and the schools you selectively omitted disprove it.

Georgia Tech has 8 tracks. Pretty much the only hirable ones are the "Devices" and "Systems & Architecture" track. If you too CS4210 and CS4220 as electives on the "Theory" track, you might also do OK. I typically don't mention it because of the low percentage of people who opt for these tracks, compared to the other tracks at this school, so you have to be picky.

I went to Georgia Tech just long enough ago that my degree plan predated the "threads" curriculum. However, I think you're being excessively narrow in your opinion of which ones are worthwhile. Specifically, 5 of the 8 threads (all except "People," "Media," and "Intelligence" require CS2200, which is a computer architecture course that uses C for the assignments and teaches not only memory management, but threaded programming too. "Intelligence" requires CS2110, which sounds from the course catalog description like it's a less-rigorous version of the same. "Media" requires CS 2261, which is also a low-level systems programming course, but is more focused on graphics and sound.

Most of those threads also have 3000- or 4000-level classes (other than 4210 and 4220) that reinforce low-level programming skills: CS3451 (Computer Graphics) uses C and OpenGL, many of the "Modeling and Simulation" classes (e.g. CS4225) surely focus on low-level stuff since that thread is really about high-performance computing, "Information-internetworks" people are probably going to take either CS4420 (database implementation) or CS4251 (computer networking 2) which are very likely low-level, and I'm sure almost everybody in the "Intelligence" thread is going to take some kind of robotics or computer vision class.

In fact, the only "thread" where people could escape without learning C is the "People" thread, and considering that you have to complete two threads to get a degree, you're going to have to learn C to graduate no matter what you do.

I'm not saying that you should hire somebody who picked the "Intelligence" and "People" threads and took the least-rigorous classes possible (and thus got a glorified psychology degree) to do embedded device programming, but I am saying that even that guy should be competent enough to understand pointers and therefore be employable by the vast majority of Silicon Valley companies that aren't actually writing OS kernel or firmware-level code.

Why not get a Masters Degree Online. You pretty much need a Masters to get a decent job in STEMs anyway these days. Georgia Tech offers an online masters degree program, and they're one of the better programs in the States... There's a nice discussion of this over on Reddit.

This looks like a cheaper approach https://smartech.gatech.edu/bi...

+1 for informative if I had it. Indium and Gallium are somewhat toxic, and ironically suspected as carcinogenic.
http://amdg.ece.gatech.edu/msd...

I wonder if the intent was for the metal to get absorbed and held in the tumor rather and slowly poison it more than restrict the blood flow.

And we wonder why females have little interest in CS? The male version talks about gaming and creating toys, while the female version sounds like they want to target non-mathphobic social workers.

Yep. Full versions of the letters are available here. Also notice that the "Girl" letter states that a computing class may be required for any "science and math fields", while the "Boy" letter notes that a computing class may be required for any "science, engineering, and math fields." Even the signature blocks are different, with the "Boy" letter signed by GT's Director of Computing Outreach, while the "Girl" letter is signed "Teacher Name". There are many subtle differences throughout the letters that really have no place to be there.

Since they invested in balloon, it seems it is far cheaper. And they can control the trajectory using this method https://smartech.gatech.edu/bi...

I see a future were we just get used to it, the same as we ignore people checking their phone already.

It's possible, but at least in my social circles so far people haven't really adapted to carrying on a conversation while checking phone, at least for more than brief glances. When someone looks down at their phone for more than 3-4 seconds, the conversation pauses, and resumes when they look back up again. The explicit looking-at-the-screen aspect essentially communicates out-of-band the "am I paying attention to this conversation or not?" aspect that's used to fairly seamlessly pause and restart the conversation. So far, I've found it hard to do that with people wearing eyepieces (I've had conversations with people wearing prototype versions on and off since 2004), since you don't get the explicit notification of now-looking-at-screen, now-looking-back-up attentional state that you get with smartphones.

It's not an identical core, it's only of the same generation. And there's only one to the PS3's three.

Obviously, I meant to the 360's three. But if I don't issue a correction, surely some wag will pounce. Here, I'll add in an actual link to a real comparison of the architectures. Or you know, This old thing. The 360's PPC cores have twice as many LSUs, integer and fp cores as the PPC core in the PS3 — two of each instead of one. That's right, each PPC core in the 360 can do twice as much math as the PPC core in Cell. That's because you were meant to do all your heavy lifting in the cell cores.

Western Governor's University and Excelsior (both non-profit) are the best online options, especially if you want self-paced. They are both very cost-effective and regionally accredited. You should check out the details of the programs that each offers to see if they provide what you want. I know WGU's IT programs are very solid, but I'm not sure about their software development options. I know they just recently added a Software Development concentration option for a Bachelor's degree, but the program guide hasn't been posted yet so I'm not sure of the exact courses offered.

If you end up getting your bachelor's, Georgia Tech now offers their well-respected MS in CS degree online. The admissions requirements are stricter than the online-only schools, but not too onerous.

If you don't really want a degree, but would like some formal training, Stanford and MIT both have strong no-credit open course ware offerings - they also have paid-for online certificate programs.

I don't know what this $9K stuff is. There are plenty of places not nearly that expensive where you don't pay for a brand name -- or pay a private institution (with premium so it can also be profitable for the owners), including:

Georgia Tech, $4129 for in-state residents. UWYO, $108 per credit hour, undergrad. ULL, undergrad tuition $3147 per semester for 20 or more credit hours. Graduate tuition $3574 maximum.

Elizabeth City State University, NC $4,428 in-state tuition.

Sul Ross State University (Texas) $4800

Northwestern (Oklahoma) $5K

Actually you are understating the difficulty of transmitting that power.

There are several big problems. One is real world rectennas are not that efficient. The best best lab condition ones with lower power are 90% but high power ones are quite a bit less, sometimes up to 75 percent or so.

The other massive loss is transmission loss. The basic formula is 32.45 + 20log(d) + 20log(f). Using the 1.32 TW estimate in this post: http://science.slashdot.org/co... and a rough 24ghz given in this page http://www.propagation.gatech.... we would have around 231 db. Considering you are starting with 121 dBW of power, you are left with -110dBW of power on earth not accounting for antenna gains.

Since a watt is 0dBW, we need 55db of dish gain on either side to get 1 watt and a gain of 115 to get the input power generation. At 24 GHz this is a 3 KILOMETER dish on either end. The largest parabolic on earth now is 0.3 km, so ten times that. Plus it would have to always point at the moon (how? No idea).

Plus You would lose your 50% or more since obviously the whole equator isn't facing the sun. Then the 50-70 from your rectenna loses.

I imagine a bunch of other stuff from other losses I havent taken into account (Convert to AC, line loss, whatever else) and I cant imagine this being feasable.

However, he pretends that the problem with "hide the decline" is about something other than tree rings...

Where does he say that? He says at 4:12: "But in fact, Jones was talking about something completely different [than the decline in the global temperature]: the apparent decline in temperatures shown by tree ring data since the 1950s." He is exactly stating that "hide the decline" has something to do with tree rings.

Basically, the guys "hiding the decline" desperately needed to hide the decline in temperatures for that part of their reconstruction in order for that reconstruction to be used as a metric for past temperatures versus CO2.

Yes, exactly as potholer says at 4:27: "The argument is whether tree rings should be used when reconstructing pre-industrial climates." You make this out to be something sneaky and hidden from public, especially combined with your closing statement:

The thing you also missed about the Climategate problem for AGW fans: a lot of what they said would be fine, in a publication, or in an answer to a paper. It was, however, stuff they never told anyone, because it poked huge holes in the foundation of their work.

However, at least in this case, you are simply wrong. It's been openly discussed since at least 1998 when a paper called "Trees tell of past climates: but are they speaking less clearly today?" was published. A quote from the paper: "This is illustrated in figure 6, which shows that decadal trends in both large-scale-average [Tree-Ring Width] and [MaXimum latewood Density] increasingly diverge from the course of decadal temperature variation after about 1950 or 1960." The lead author, Keith Briffa, even works at the CRU! Clearly this was openly talked about, and before the "hide the decline" email (which was in 1999).

What else ya got?

Know how many people get viruses or malware on their iPhone (without jailbreaking) ... 0.

Looks like you don't know enough people. It has been done, without jailbreaking, and we only know because the developers publicized that fact themselves.. If you want to keep the same answer, perhaps you could rephrase the question as "How many times that Apple admit that they served up viruses or malware in their App Store?"

So you think its better to run extra software, waste more ram, cpu and storage space ... so that you don't get something that iOS users just aren't going to get in the first place?

But what if I don't _want_ a misplaced sense of security based on faulty assumptions?

You utterly fucking fail at understanding security. [...] The only known threats on iOS devices have come to jailbroken phones and the jailbreaks themselves.

It ain't just a river in Egypt.

And that's not even considering threats that come from Apple itself, without any need to install apps or change settings. Something magical happens and things just work.

Until then [I] just make it obvious [I'm] nothing more than a fanboy.

No argument here.

Answering my own question: nothing prevents silicon transistors from working over 400 GHz. IBM & GeorgiaTech have already done that.
http://gtresearchnews.gatech.edu/newsrelease/half-terahertz.htm
http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/19843.wss
As it has been mentioned by user mc6809e in another comment, certain transistors have long since reached 1 THz, but I'm unqualified in the area and can't find the appropriate article or key words.

Keeping my excitement for some other occasion.

Silicon transistors can run at 500GHz* - but that's hitting the limits of electron mobility, and it needed liquid helium cooling.

Sometimes, liquid nitrogen just doesn't cut it.

* http://gtresearchnews.gatech.edu/newsrelease/half-terahertz.htm

http://www.omscs.gatech.edu/faq/

"All exams are proctored using national proctoring standards. We have access to 4,500 physical proctoring facilities and are working with online proctoring institutions."

According to this, the tuition cost of a 2 year grad degree at Georgia Tech would be $54,660 for out-of-state, assuming you have 12 credit our semesters. ($22,468 for in-state) It may be that it is not worth that much, but I don't think the $45k number was invented for comparison purposes.

Yeah, people never get red-eye in photos.

Sigh. Red eye is caused by the ABSORPTION of light, not the REFLECTION of light. A retroflector is what is in a CCD, and in a cat's eye. example of red eye example of cat eye. Note the difference.

Today's classroom science explanation brought to you by Jah-Wren Ryei, the idiot moderator who +1'd someone talking out of their ass, and wikipedia. Stay tuned for more exciting science later in this thread, where we'll go in detail to explore the behind the scenes technology that makes camera 'jamming' a reality, and why for some strange reason only people who have read books on optics can understand... it doesn't detect and blind human eyes.

Recall one of the many dramas of climategate was the private discussion of the discarding of tree ring data from after 1960 precisely because it failed as a temperature proxy.

"Private discussion"? People wrote fucking papers about it. Jacoby 1995 and Briffa 1998 for example.

The first human flight did not come from those who said it cannot be done.

I, for one, am happy to see a new shoot springs from the ground. I do not know what it'll grow up to become but I hope it will be something amazing.

The FAQ addresses many issues such as costs, grading, course duration and cheating. On cheating:

How will you guarantee academic honesty?
All exams are proctored using national proctoring standards. We have access to 4,500 physical proctoring facilities and are working with online proctoring institutions.

From the FAQ:

"Computer science is defined by the ability to train and test students within a rubric of discrete, quantifiable problems and solutions."

Master's degree: "A master's degree is an academic degree granted to individuals who have undergone study demonstrating a mastery or high-order overview of a specific field of study or area of professional practice. Within the area studied, graduates are posited to possess advanced knowledge of a specialized body of theoretical and applied topics; high order skills in analysis, critical evaluation or professional application; and the ability to solve complex problems and think rigorously and independently."

Train and test doesn't really sound like bestowing rigorous, independent analytical thought. I'm sure the auto-grader will account for that, though.

"Why do working professionals need this degree? Can’t they just enroll in classes?
The United States is facing a severe shortage of skilled workers in STEM files. The Georgia Tech master’s degree in computer science represents an achievement and skill set that companies like AT&T value and want more of their employees to have."

So, it's a degree mill then?

Ladies and gentlemen, I hereby present the "No Worker Left Behind" program, a program of socialism of intellect: "From each, according to ability, to each regardless of effort."

Four years of undergrad, two years of a masters, multiple research papers and you will give me the same title as the click-and-drool crowd? "Idiocracy" indeed. I know, I know, you'll say that I shouldn't have any company that can't tell the difference, but ponder this: there is no doctor, no lawyer, no engineer, no other professional that would let this happen idly, regardless of where they work.

The inability to even tell if they're looking at you is particularly weird. I had a meeting with this guy as a student 8 or 10 years ago or so, when he was wearing a heads-up display attached to a computer he kept sort of slung over his shoulder, with a one-handed chording keyboard on the outside of it. It seemed interesting tech-wise, definitely at the time, when it was all DIY'd. But it was slightly weird always being unsure when he was looking through his glasses at me, and when he was looking at his glasses reading the web or something. At least with a smartphone or laptop you can see people look down and look up.

As these historical documents show, that is a solved problem and therefore not a subject inviting further discussion.

Yay!

Google reinvents the Bone Fone

No prior 'art' here?

DARPA's report ( http://users.ece.gatech.edu/mrichard/ExascaleComputingStudyReports/exascale_final_report_100208.pdf ) has a lot of interesting information for those who want to read more on exascale computing. I may be a bit biased being a grad student in HPC too, but the linked article didn't impress me.

No kidding. Let this be a lesson to human kind.

In the beginning a robot and it's creator are the best of friends. I mean literally nestling you in sweet embrace.

The second that you think it will make a good dance partner and decide to hold onto it's jagged pincers, it will go berserk, breaking cinder brick walls and threatening to throw you from a five story building.

No kidding. Let this be a lesson to human kind.

In the beginning a robot and it's creator are the best of friends. I mean literally nestling you in sweet embrace.

The second that you think it will make a good dance partner and decide to hold onto it's jagged pincers, it will go berserk, breaking cinder brick walls and threatening to throw you from a five story building.

may i suggest you do everything you can to get the assclown kicked out of office so georgia is not a laughingstock?

this is one of the best universities in the nation, and the world:

http://www.gatech.edu/

every single person at this institution should be horrified disgusted revulsed and feeling nauseous that this douchebag speaks for their state

"The Georgia Tech version sounds like a 'me too' thing" Georgia Tech released its beta version in May. See the FTA or http://www.gatech.edu/newsroom/release.html?nid=132601 "I don't know that I'd trust a university to ensure the functional privacy of something" Titan is run by GTRI, which is a non-profit entity. I think that a non-profit entity at a University is more likely to be considerate of privacy issues than a for profit startup, CrowdRE, who has to report to investors that have invested 26 million dollars in venture capital.