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And of course, if I'm just annoyin' ya, that's ok too... but I apologize!

Never! I never turn away a fella' who's willing to help. As I always tell people, my door is always open. Shoot me an email and we'll discuss what we can put you to work on.

Thanks for volunteering! :-)

This happens over and over and over again— with some users, I'm afraid to upgrade their software because their "world" sadly depends on the cargo cult execution of gestures to get their work done. Too many applications change how they look and feel with every upgrade that many users go off the rails whenever that happens. At least with an application, you can kind of avoid it, but when it's Windows— aw man, why not just fix the SECURITY HOLES instead of changing the UI? Please, Microsoft?

Screw it [sic; I'm being polite.], I'll keep my Mac OS X for clients and Gentoo Linux for servers and any web service that doesn't suck (Gmail, Basecamp, etc.), thank you very much.

Microsoft's days are over the moment Google decides to market an operating system that includes GFS for redundant data-storage and their MapReduce for batch processing. These things are big contributors to how its even possible for Google to exist. Simplicity trumps mediocrity.

We should start a spam campaign for our commander. How dare someone register CmdrTaco@gmail.com before he did. We should all send emails to the imposter and let him know that he is a bastard. mailto:CmdrTaco@gmail.com Help fight the war on identity theft.

dude, you put in your actual email address mailto:keithcu@gmail.com!! teh spambots are coming!

Oooh look ...

You mean leoking@gmail.com? Did I get it right?

If you want an invite send me an email mailto:nthitz@gmail.com I still have like 8 left. The service is pretty stupid though.

It's good that we have a standard protocol that all mail clients can use to access all mail servers. It's good that the protocol is open and unencumbered. It's a shame, though, that the protocol we standardized on was IMAP.

IMAP is an ugly, convoluted mess. And as I tend to rant about often, overly complex protocols encourage buggy implementations. "Keep it simple, stupid." If something like POP4 had become the standard, there would be a better selection of quality, non-troublesome email clients out there.

Although, with an increasing number of richly functional webmail systems out there now, perhaps the email fat client will become less relevant anyway. Of course, email clients will never go away entirely: you still need text-based access (pine and elm), and non-interactive clients such as Fetchmail...

Oh hell, I'll just come out and say it... anything is better than Outlook. :)

Hey, I just came across another AJAX email client in addition to the one mentioned in the article! I figured you guys would want to check it out, since I haven't seen it mentioned here on /. yet.

ltarver@gmail.com
ltarver@idlemind.net
ltoney@idlemind.net
ltarver@msmoc.com

ltarver@gmail.com
ltarver@idlemind.net
ltoney@idlemind.net
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Just to make sure that this open invite is out there, if you see something that you'd like to help with or take ownership of, you can always email me and I'll see if I can get you to work. :-)

Did it strike anyone else as insane that this thing only had one hard drive? For $3,000, where's the raid array?

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In the wake of recent releases of Google Desktop 2.0 Beta and Google Talk 1.0 Beta, Gmail now is finally open to everyone. Other exciting rumors suggest that Google may even try to compete with Internet Explorer by producing a product called GBroswer. Other Google features include Maps, Blogger, Hello, iGoogle, Google Earth, and Picasa. Now it appears they've produced a new Google Theme Song.

...no links to registration is found on the gmail.com website.

According to Google, it is not encrypted.

12. Can you tell me more about Google Talk and privacy?

"Google Talk currently does not encrypt chats or calls. But we are working hard to make many improvements to Google Talk while it is in beta, and we plan to fully support encryption of chats and calls before our official release."

That means that the payload isn't encrypted. It doesn't state whether the connection to the server is encrypted. For example, if you go to https://www.gmail.com/ you will have an SSL connection to Gmail the whole time you are logged in. All of the e-mail you have doesn't magically convert to encrypted e-mail, but you are receiving it through an encrypted tunnel.

There is a difference.

Thanks for telling us your gmail email address mailto:cbergeron@gmail.com Let the spam begin... :)

Well, they could offer their own browser, add-ons, web-apps, information services, or even desktop applications and make their name ubiquitous. Hell, then step in and give everyone free (as in public utility) internet service. Once they know your name and see the big colorful sign saying that 'internets' are free and customers would die for that company...

dsphitz@gmail.com

First off, we expect that packages that are pairwise compatible, will be compatible in every combination.

If only it were that simple. Let's say that we have Mozilla, Java, and a package that can "glue" Java to other programs. Independently, Mozilla and Java work fine. Together they work fine. Each works fine with the glue package. But if something is screwed up in the glue package, Mozilla, Java, and the glue may no longer function when together. Even more distirbing is Mozilla plugins that step on each other and screw up packages that were working fine before.

Guidelines can help. That's the only reason why things work in the first place. But they don't guarantee, I'm afraid.

Linux won't get better from more stupid people using it. It will get better from more smart users, and those are very well capable of editing their config files.

That's simply insane. People got out of the business of doing all but the most basic car maintenence YEARS ago. People got out of the business of managing all but the most basic computer tasks YEARS ago. Now you want to send them back to the "Edit your Autoexec.bat/System.ini/Win.ini/Config.sys" hell? WHY?

It has nothing to do with people being stupid. It has everything to do with people having better things to focus on. If I'm a musician, I just want to install a program that lets me read and create sheet music. If you can make that one-click, GREAT! I really don't need to know, want to know, or should be expected to know how to do complex system management!

The traditional answer to any request is "okay, go and implement it yourself". Most people are incapable of doing that. The others will cater to their own needs. Such is life.

If that is the answer, then Linux will never achieve the Desktop market penetration that the community CLAIMS it wants. There can't be two ways about this. Either we're going to support end users or we're not. It doesn't matter if it's a new distro specifically designed for end users. We just have to support them.

Right now I think you're confused on so many accounts that I'd have to decline

There's no confusion here, only opinions. While they may differ, I see no reason to insult each other over them.

Look, here's my ideas laid out in four parts, and here's a two part followup that provides more details. If you want to join, send me an email. If you don't, then don't. No skin off my nose.

Sorry ... im having some router issues so if the cdkey file doesn't work you can try:

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I don't trust that source and nor should you ... check out the VBS before you run it :). If you need a copy you can email me a and I would be more then happy to send it to you

Sorry guys :(

Solosoft

I'm interested - I know someone whose company can use your service, if I understand it correctly. Email them with a link to your post and a description of how your system works, and what it needs to plug into to work. Tell them "Doc Ruby" sent you.

Yes, they are. A depressingly large amount of malware requires the user to do something stupid - or at the very least questionable - before it can get onto the computer.

I'm having difficulting conceiving WTF you could possibly be doing in Windows that requires 15 minutes of rebooting just to get started.

As for WTF I could possibly doing... I don't sit poised at the edge of the keyboard waiting to click "OK" to a restart prompt. Typically I'd already started something I need to now stop doing because now I've got an update ostensibly in some halfway needs-to-be-rebooted state.

So, I've booted into Windows, tried to get started on something, and get interrupted. I've timed the boot sequence round trip into Windows, and it takes three and a half to four and a half minutes to get completely settled down (disk light finally stops chattering) and for the system to finally get responsive enough to fire up an application. Factor in getting an application started up, getting situated to start the work at hand with that app, and the interruption, typically I may be anywhere from two to five minutes into "using" Windows when interrupted for a restart.

So, if I were to just sit poised at my keyboard to interrupt the "long" POST (I leave that enabled by default), and log in to Windows, and start my application, two round trips would be seven to nine minutes. Add in the two to five minutes to get settled in on the work at hand, twice!, now we're looking at nine to fourteen minutes. But as I stated earlier in the comment, I don't sit poised at the keyboard because of the nuisance factor of "waiting" for all of this to go and with other things to do I typically will turn to some needed page in a manual, get a CD ready to play, plug in the charger on my mp3 player, etc.

So, all of this comprises what I refer to as a "preamble" -- it isn't hard for it to be easily fifteen minutes if there is an update to the system (and it is extremely likely I have an update). And, it is not unusual for my virus checking to ask me to do an additional "live update" after a restart and restart again, which even poised at the keyboard racing to startup yields close to the fifteen minutes.

I think I'm being generous. (I'm not gonna burn karma on this... I'll post AC, but if you have comments... you can e-mail me... yagu with additional thoughts)

"Actually, if this describes you, and you are creative and business savvy to boot, then you are perfectly suited for starting up your own software business."

I'm a programmer, like many of you. I develop my own Open Source systems and have done so for the past five years. After being shut down by employer after employer for stupid reasons, I finally got smart about it.

My last experience was the clincher. This company will remain anonymous because they are dirty enough to go after me and tie me up in court if they ever found out I was talking about them negatively. They hired me as a full time contract employee to develop a project management system for them and some other projects like an online mapping system. They started me at contracting wages which are a bit higher than full-time-contract wages -- for the reason that I would be paid more frequently and would not have to wait so long between paycheques if I took full-time-contract instead of contract. Like many other fools out there, I took a pay cut and they paid me more frequently -- for a while. I traded my value for job security. DUMB MOVE!!!

They laid me off when I finished my project and their cheques continued to bounce until I finally managed to certify the last one a full two months after I was laid off. My employer knew all along that I would be sacked on completion of my project, so it was intentional.

So how do these companies expect us to handle this? We are going to get smart and we are going to get powerful until we can do as we please. Vocation == Vacation. :-)

So I guess you can say I was left with a bit of an edge after that experience.

We all need job security and that sort of thing for our families, but we also need to create that security ourselves -- nobody is going to do it for us.

My Ace of Spades is to have a project going that is mine alone and fund it through my own employment and extra-curricular activities.

I've switched to full-on entrepreneurial activity with a NEW company.

I am being paid right now to provide solutions to the company I work for and yet the company has signed off that they will not own the solutions but that they will be able to use them in their current state -- FOREVER.

They are okay with this because they can get me a lot cheaper than if they were to actually OWN the systems I build. Exclusivity is expensive and I have told them that if they want to exclusively own my project they will have to come to the table with a very big offer. Huge offer, I said.

What they really wanted was to have solutions to problems and with my troubleshooting experience (10 years), I am able to help them and they are able to help me. Symbiosis!

Are you unemployed or just ready to do something special with your talent? I want to talk to you.

http://www.gmail.com/

Not necessary. When you goto http://www.gmail.com/ it automatically redirects to https.

for some strange reason, ssh is not allowed out of the company firewall here.. and tunneling via http, https or socks isn't possible either (I've checked)

The easy way is https://gmail.com/ which will protect against the local bastard operator.

The geeky way is to simply https to the webmail you've got running on your own box at home, but I've never gotten around to set that up... mainly because that box doesn't act as a mailserver anyway.. (argh, I am not 1337)

Basically, there is no excuse for mixing private and company mail.

Yes, gmail support ssl; currently using it with AES encryption.

If you use https://gmail.com/ it will redirect you and you will loose your ssl; just use https://gmail.google.com/ and it should work.

Can anyone with legal experience enlighten me on this one? Do the bastards have the right to do so, provided that one doesn't sign a document that explicitly states "you can read my email" but instead contains a fine version of "all your bases, off lunch hours, belongs to us?

Actually, the odds are that included in that stack of papers that you have signed is a micro-computer use policy that includes sections on Internet and Email acceptable use. If you look at these you will most likely see, in no uncertain terms, that persuant to gaining access to the company resources such as an internet connection and an email account, you must agree to certain terms, one of which is their right to monitor your email messages with or without informing you. Especially if you are working in a regulated industry (which thanks to Sarbanes-Oxley now can mean "any publicly traded company) then they most likely have something a lot more detailed then "all your bases, off lunch hours, belongs to us?" Not only that, but it also roughly translates to "all your base, period, belongs to us"

Guess what, they have to do this. If they are not, then they are negligent in their duties to verify that their sensitive information is protected, which, depending on the type of company, is a regulatory requirement.

Also, to the poster that mentioned going to https://www.gmail.com as opposed to http://www.gmail.com/ not only will this not work in an environment that has been set up by people who know what they are going (which I know is rare) it may be in direct violation of that afforementioned computer use policy. You know, the one with your signature on it, the one that states you will not use third party email systems, the one that says that violation of said policies could result in termination ... yeah, that one.

sounds like fun, give me a shout: gaustin@gmail.com -grant

And if you're lazy like me, you'll appreciate a clickable link rather than having to decipher that one: redcard411@gmail.com.

Cheers!

Um, free?
;)

Wiki info here.

Email here for connect info. You won't be wasting your time.

" Would be even nicer if i can integrate my yahoo mail too! ;-)"

That's easy. Just create a Gmail account, and set your Yahoo mail to automatically forward everything there.

I like helping people.

Why on earth would you want yahoo mail when you got Gmail whit 2x more space !

I was waiting for this moment for a lot of time. Google have so many features, but it was missing the page that put them all together. Have a directory, stock market feeds, dedicate search for Linux, email, free blog and lots more ... Oh yeah and don`t forget about google adsense and adwords

One hit wonder?

http://www.google.com/
http://www.gmail.com/
http://maps.google.com/
http://images.google.com/
http://www.google.com/froogle/
http://www.blogger.com/
http://desktop.google.com/
http://labs.google.com/ridefinder/

I realize that some of these use similar technology, but there's clearly a good bit of innovation going on there, as opposed to what's going on at Microsoft.

So I'm a 15-year-old Briton. How do I go about making a winning film then showing up Microsoft completely at the screening? Email me with suggestions.

Oh, yeah: Make sure you enter in accurate info. They've never sold it off, so you don't need to worry. Email me to get validated. That'll give you a few days to try the system out...then consider paying via the Paypal link on their front page...

I used to volunteer there as the phone tech...they let me retain the access to validate new users.

"Don't worry. Their motto is 'do no evil', so we can trust them!", say the geek masses.

The reason I personally trust Google is because they've earned it. Their business ethics are far better than most companies out there, so I trust them with the messages people send me, the locations I drive to, my writing, and my interests in general.

I'll wait to see how they use the data they get from this before I consider using it (not that I can now anyway, since it's not available on Linux), but I'm pretty sure what they're going to use it for anyway.

dirty tongue!!

I still think there's nothing like Windows out there... XP is great, Lonhorn will be much better!

Could this become another CAN-SPAM?

CAN (sorry, couldn't resist) and will.

Seriously, this is an outstanding example of why legislative control is at best worthless, and more likely actively harmful. There's an old legal saying that "good cases make bad law." That is, when we try to achieve a just result in a particular case, we end up with a law that may serve that end well, but ultimately creates more problems than it solves.

This goes double when the law concerns technology. The tech world is noted for the rapidity with which is advances; the legal world is noted for its resistance to change and advancement. When the latter regulates the former, it will inevitably lead to a stifling of future development. Definitions and phraseology become hyper-critical. For example, let's look at "spyware." How do you define it? What would you call a program that quietly looks at everything you type, taking note of some words as being particularly interesting? I'd call it a spellchecker. How about a daemon that goes through your e-mail and reports back to an agent information about how many e-mails you get from a particular sender, what kind of things you talk about, etc.? I'd call it an adaptive mail filter (Bayesian or similar). How about a webmail service that looks at your e-mail, analyzes it, and uses that analysis to present advertisements relevant to you? I think the term for that is Gmail.

Yes, these examples are contrived; I deliberately chose them to demonstrate a point. I'm trying to show that even the best-intentioned law can have dramatic effects down the line, effects that we can't even begin to predict. There's another truism in law that if the case goes to court, the lawyers have already failed. The principle holds true here as well: if the Legislature gets involved, there are no winners, only losers.

Is your e-mail richardprice@gmail.com ?

If you are really interested, send me an email here. I wouldn't call it internet 3 just yet ... however, it's not your fathers internet.

Where is Bob?

Bob:
Property: ... is going to the dentist today.
According to http://gmail.com/Bob's_Sent_Mail

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