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I don't think you understood the question you answered. I'm pretty sure that KidSock wanted to know if it is possible to implement custom file dialogs on a per application basis and also different dialogs within a single application, not changing the core Gtk file selector for everything, which seems to be what you are suggesting.

As much as I hated programming in MFC (Windows C++ toolkit), this was definitely doable there, if poorly documented. This should be possible in Gtk, I would hope. A quick Google search doesn't bring up any direct advice, but the GtkFileSelection docs seem to imply (at the bottom) that you can use the GtkDialog interface to add controls to the dialog.

I don't think you understood the question you answered. I'm pretty sure that KidSock wanted to know if it is possible to implement custom file dialogs on a per application basis and also different dialogs within a single application, not changing the core Gtk file selector for everything, which seems to be what you are suggesting.

As much as I hated programming in MFC (Windows C++ toolkit), this was definitely doable there, if poorly documented. This should be possible in Gtk, I would hope. A quick Google search doesn't bring up any direct advice, but the GtkFileSelection docs seem to imply (at the bottom) that you can use the GtkDialog interface to add controls to the dialog.

Well, i hate to bitch, but let's see... the basic idea for the new GTK file chooser is quite good, and makes browsing directories much easier, but i still feel too much window space is taken by widgets and empty space, which sometimes makes hard to read directories and filenames. Still, i really like the buttons with the path separated in directories.

Better keyboard control would be nice too; that they added typeahead support is a bless and well welcome.

You only have to click on one more link after getting to the main page.
Is that so much to ask?
Try here http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list /2004-December/msg00038.html, which just happens to be the very first link under 'News' at the bottom of the main page.

Why are people so f***ing lazy?

According to the user manual, YES, GTK does, in fact, run on Linux.

Link to the blurb about GTK 2.6.0 as opposed to the GTK main page

Damn, should have previewed. That links should be...

Epiphany has had integrated history/bookmark search in the address bar for a couple of years now.

Beagle
http://www.gnome.org/projects/beagle/

• R, including several add-on packages (such as tseries, RODBC, coda, mcmcpack, gtkdevice, rgtk, rquantlib, qtl, dbi, rmysql), out-of-the box support for the powerful ESS modes for XEmacs as well as the Ggobi visualisation program;
• A complete teTeX, TeX, and LaTeX setup for scientific publishing, along with TeXmacs and LyX for wysiwyg editing;
• Perl and Python with loads of add-ons, plus ruby, tcl, Lua, and Scientific and Numeric Python;
• The Emacs and Vim editors, as well as Gnumeric, kate, Koffice, jed, joe, nedit and zile;
• Octave, with add-on packages octave-forge, octave-sp, octave-epstk, and matwrap;
• Computer-algebra systems Maxima, Pari/GP, GAP, GiNaC and YaCaS;
• the QuantLib quantitative finance library including its Python interface;
• GSL, the Gnu Scientific Library (GSL) including example binaries;
• The GNU compiler suite comprising gcc, g77, g++ compilers;
• the OpenDX, Plotmtv, and Mayavi data visualisation systems;
• it includes apcalc,aribas,autoclass,

Ahem. And yours is not flamebait?

For Linux, there's Beagle. It's not done yet, but you can actually download and use it today.

Longhorn is also not finished, and you can't get a copy at all. And they seem to keep pushing the release date back, and removing features, so I have almost no idea when it'll be here, or what it'll do.

For comparison, Apple has Spotlight. It'll be in Mac OS 10.4, due in 2005H1. If you're a developer, you can buy a preview release to play with now.

So the biggest difference, to me, between Beagle and Spotlight and Longhorn is that Longhorn isn't available today at all, and has no ETA.

Seems to me that Microsoft is the one that's falling behind.

As well as the projects people have mentioned, there is beagle for GNOME. They seem to be using a slightly different approach than the one I've outlined: they patch the kernel to notify the system when files are modified.

--jeff++

Add your names to the bug report.

Please do not waste time suggesting alternative names.
The bug report should be about making it possible and practical to change the name without needing to fork the whole project.

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160890

Add your names to the bug report.

Please do not waste time suggesting alternative names.
The bug report should be about making it possible and practical to change the name without needing to fork the whole project.

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160890

Next problem?

well, if I was running gnome I'd understand it, seeing as 180solutions (the wonderful people who brought us n-CASE) tried to get their crap integrated in it...

Bullshit. Which Linux distributor codes a majority of anything?

As for Gnome.. perhaps you should grep through the gnome codebase for @redhat.com adresses?
Then perhaps you'll figure out why they had 4 candidates, (more than any other single entity) for the board of the Gnome-foundation.

Red Hat doesn't code a JVM for Linux?
Obviously you haven't made any contributions yourself in this area, because you really don't have a clue.

The bulk of work in GCJ (which compiles Java to native) and it's VM GIJ has been done by Red Hat.
Do you know how many people they have working on this stuff? Of course you don't. (Hint: Number of contributors to the GNU Classpath Java class library: 10)

Tell me, which other commercial distributions are contributing?

They also do a majority of work GCC. You know that little compiler-thingy?

Repeat after me: E-mail clients on Linux are NOT a problem.

* Mutt (console based and unlike PINE its Free and better)
* Evolution (for GNOME)
* KMail (for KDE).
* Sylpheed (for GTK+).
* GNUMail (for GNUstep)
* More at Freshmeat.net > Communications :: Email :: Email Clients (MUA)

Perhaps redundant links here and there, but this is a good overal start. I excluded Thunderbird and Mozilla because those are heavily known already. Also, some of the above clients might run on other Unices, other OSes -- including MacOSX and Windows.

I've used IMAP capable clients to talk to Exchange servers.

I don't use Thunderbird because I find that evolution with its connector provides almost a complete Outlook replacement.

While I haven't used it personally, people have used the old Netscape IMAP mail connection to talk to Exchange servers in a limited fashion (just IMAP, no calendars, etc.) And, before I got some of the connector stuff working, I used the IMAP option within Evolution to talk to the Exchange server.

But Evolution can give you mail+calendars with those MSexChange servers, so that's what I tend to use.

Maybe someday an open source Exchange replacement like Brutus will be sufficiently compatible with Exchange's behavior to be a viable drop-in replacement for small and medium businesses.

Yes, the win32 port of AbiWord uses native controls, not sure about Gnumeric though (I guess you could test it out yourself, with their win32 RC1).

Unfortunately, the text folding portion of the Bullets and Numbering dialog hasn't been worked on for the win32 port. As for Gnumeric, there's an RC1 available from here. I'm not sure how far along it is though.

Are we going to see "AbiExcel?"

How about Gnumeric?.

But does it matter is Abiword is part of a suite? I use it on Linux because I need a good Word Processor, and Abiword takes less overhead and looks better than the OO writer. But each to his own...

Are we going to see "AbiExcel?"

How about Gnumeric?.

But does it matter is Abiword is part of a suite? I use it on Linux because I need a good Word Processor, and Abiword takes less overhead and looks better than the OO writer. But each to his own...

You mean like gweather, which has been part of GNOME for what 5 years now?

• ws001: login as user001
• ws002: login as user002

This will never win, but I hope they include it as an option in the final download.

http://live.gnome.org/static/CarlCarlson.png

Done entirely in MS Paint.
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt_2fGimpSplashContest ?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=LukeGotszling.png

My vote goes to this gem

All in favor? Say "eye"

There's just something about this one ... I just can't quite put my hand on it ...

For many purposes, GPLed images are a pain in the ass because of this requirement. On the other hand, if the GIMP developers want the splash image to serve as a tutorial, this mignt be exactly what they want to require. In that case, they might want to give bonus points to splash images with really nicely organized .xcf files.

fixed the link for you

Well didn't you choose your targets poorly. Gnumeric supports more worksheet functions than Excel, along with plenty of other functionality. Gnumeric is actually a viable replacement for Excel.

Recently I purchased 2 19" LCD screens, and my comfort level has increaded dramatically over using 17" CRTs. I purchased one for work and one for home. They were costly, but the health of my eyes is very important for me (I still have 20/20 vision). And I believe I can claim 33% of the value of the at-work LCD on tax for 3 years (in Australia).

At work, we "sunbake" under a bright array of fluorescent tubes. I turned the brightness and contrast down to zero for maximim comfort (otherwise the LCD was too bright). I also set the default window background to light grey. This further reduces eye strain as the contrast of reading black text on a light grey background is less than that with a white background.

I am lucky, my desk is facing across the room. So periodically I do not have to look away because I do that naturally as people move and talk in the office.

Now I can stare at an LCD screeen for 14 hours a day (no I don't work for EA), without getting sore, tired, red eyes. I do not even need to use lubricating eye drops any more.

Now because this is Slashdot, it wouldn't be right to make a post and not suggest something related to open source software.... as a fellow code monkey, I use the Bitstream Vera fonts. The monospaced font is ideal (IMHO) for coding: http://www.gnome.org/fonts/

Good luck...

But what about the input issue?

Yeah, what about the input issue? I haven't had any problems inputting Japanese in GNU/Linux.

Also, I don't quite get your " I hear chinese language support in linux is coming along" comment. Linux is a kernel (no, I'm not trying to bring out a nomenclature fight) --- it does not need to know anything about natural languages. Or do you mean something like these?

Particularly amusing was that the article mentioned a proposal to bundle spyware into Gnome 2.0. I bet that went over like a strip club in the Vatican.

Well, that's after you pay $50 for the game + box + first month free trail subscription.

Hrm, "free"... Gee, Blizzard marketing department, thanks for offering us a free month of game play in exchange for buying a $50 game that is useless without that subscription.

Ugh. Between creepy marketing like that and everyone else jumping over to a Half-Life 2, both publiched by a company that still sells Counter-Strike for $30 when they've disabled the ability to play it at all (without installing a DRM platform under a different license, of course).... I'm really just getting ticked off. I'm probably alone in saving my money and avoiding both of those games, though.

For now, I think I'll stick to working on games that are free for everyone and occasionally play UT2004 and a few budget titles without these restrictive licenses.

go with something that has a simple GUI interface. All that fancy commandline stuff scares people.

The 90's called. They want their joke back.

Gnome and KDE are two of the many GUIs available and they have been included in most distributions for years.

Yes, it's good that Gtk is using the standard file chooser. The bad thing is the Gtk file chooser is massively broken. Who ever designed that doesn't have clue about user interfaces. They removed the text entry box! Apparently they thought knew better than 30 years of GUI development.

Damn them all.

For top-level windows it's called owner, not parent. Unfortunately the API for handling this is rather confused. See this article for example. Also take a look at how gdk_window_set_transient_for is implemented on Win32. See gdk/win32/gdkwindow-win32.c.

Uhm yeah and guess what? In 2000 people bragged about 2000 being the year of "the doom of Linux", and predicted that Linux will die within a year. A now, years later, Linux is still alive, and is stronger than ever.

"Only eight years later, but yup. An interesting product that still can't do what normal users want to do."

Only if you have been living in a shelter. Compare any modern desktop Linux distribution to the ones in 1996. If you didn't notice huge improvements in the usability area, then you are blind. Antialiased fonts, simpler user interface, much better hardware support and hardware autodetection, plug in your camera and an icon appears on the desktop, web browsers that surpass IE, a complete office suit which can replace MS Office for 99% of the people, strong focus on usability by popular projects, etc. etc.

My dad is a normal user. He uses Linux. I now have one example of an average user using Linux. And one example is all I need to debunk your statement.

You're right, Epiphany deserves to be mentioned, it is the browser of choice for GNOME. And in case you didn't know, there is a separate package called Epiphany-extensions. Epiphany extensions are of course not as numerous as Firefox ones, but if you want to port one, essentially only the XUL interface has to be replaced by a GTK one.

And here is an analagous HOWTO for those of us of the KDE persuasion.

And here is an analagous HOWTO for those of us of the KDE persuasion.

Thank Bryan Clark and Seth Nickell, two of Red Hat's interaction designers. They decided to make the switch, to allow for more Fitts' Law-compliant applet-clicking.

Thank Bryan Clark and Seth Nickell, two of Red Hat's interaction designers. They decided to make the switch, to allow for more Fitts' Law-compliant applet-clicking.

I know Reiser 4 is capable of it, but has the indexing and searching actually been implemented yet? Also, I haven't heard of any userspace search tools (except Beagle, which doesn't appear to use Reiser 4, and is at 0.0.2 anyway!). So am I living under a rock, or has Open Source not actually won yet?

IIRC Lookout uses Lucene (or, more accurately) the .net port), so I guess this is a victory for free software,

It's also worth looking at Beagle, a similar project for Gnome using lucene.

Congratulations to the Lucene developers. Taking over the desktop :-)

Try this open source search tool.

Yeah, appearently the *nix way is to follow the GNOME HIG. (Presumably this is also where the OK-on-right came from...)