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Re:No, it's good sense
That would depend on where you live, wouldn't it?
http://www.environnement.gouv....
Or what languages you speak.
Hey, can you tell me why I need to pay income tax to a federal AND a provincial government, a city, and a school board?
All I see as the end result is mostly done by the city, like water in/out, garbage collection, snow removal, etc. All of which I could do for myself far cheaper than the total taxes taken from me.
Oh, would you like more wasteful government programs? How about the UPAC, which was supposed to be a watchdog against government corruption, which it turns out was corrupt itself?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Or wait a minute... How about Bombardier? Why should I pay them to build planes no one wants because they have family connections to the right thugs in the government?
Or, closer to you and your sig
:"Space Shuttle was a program that strapped humans to an explosion and tried to stab through the sky with fire and math"Besides your cringy attempt at profundity, the Space Shuttle was nothing but pork barrel politics to build a useless firecracker to go where we've been before to achieve precisely nothing.
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Re: Well...Civil law, at the provincial level
CHAPTER I.1
RIGHT TO EQUAL RECOGNITION AND EXERCISE OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS
10. Every person has a right to full and equal recognition and exercise of his human rights and freedoms, without distinction, exclusion or preference based on race, colour, sex, gender identity or expression, pregnancy, sexual orientation, civil status, age except as provided by law, religion, political convictions, language, ethnic or national origin, social condition, a handicap or the use of any means to palliate a handicap. Discrimination exists where such a distinction, exclusion or preference has the effect of nullifying or impairing such right.
10.1. No one may harass a person on the basis of any ground mentioned in section 10
As for penalties, you can either negotiate an agreement, or go to a full hearing. If it goes to a hearing and your complaint is upheld, you can get material, moral, punitive damages.
SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE COMPLAINT - CORRECTIVE MEASURES
If the Complaints Committee believes that there is sufficient evidence to support the complaint, it may recommend any corrective measures it deems appropriate, for example, reinstate an employee, order that a person attend an anti-discrimination awareness program, or recommend material, moral and punitive damages. The respondent is given a specified period of time in order to implement corrective measures.
If the respondent complies with the corrective measures, the file is closed.
If the respondent does not comply with the corrective measures, the Complaints Committee may mandate the Commission to apply to a court to seek appropriate measures.
Criminal law, at the federal level (Canadian criminal code, section 318)
Definition of identifiable group
(4) In this section, identifiable group means any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, national or ethnic origin, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or mental or physical disability.
319 (1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of
(a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or
(b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.
It also relates to individual members of that group. What do you think "any section of the public distinguished by
... gender identity " means? Any section of the public doesn't specify a minimum number, in part because even promoting hatred against ONE member of the protected group will affect other members of the group (chilling effect, intimidation etc). This gives prosecutors a lot of flexibility. Same as if someone firebombs a muslim's car, they have committed a hate crime against a section of the public distinguished by religion, even if the car was only owned by one person.Boy, are you dumb. And boring.
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Re:Dupe Dupe Dupe
The original summary didn't cover how easy it was to trace the guy. The FBI's "investigative prowess" was nothing more than a search for his email address on LinkedIn. That also yielded his business, which another search of available public government records would have yielded his home address, etc.
You can go here, click on "Find an enterprise" on the right, enter "EBX Technologies" as the search term, click on "accept terms", and it yields this:
Business number: 2265599250
Name: EBX TECHNOLOGIES
Address: 1731 rang Saint-Alexis Saint-Maurice (Québec) G0X2X0 Canada
Status: Immatriculée (registered)
Date: 2008-12-29
Status of name: En vigueur (active)
Date: 2008-12-29Clicking on the link (embedded in the business number) gives this additional info:
Nom de famille (family name) CAZES
Prénom (first name) ALEXANDRE... as well as that he was repairing computers and selling software out of his home when he started AlphaBay. He was due to file the latest declaration with the government on June 15th. Since he won't be doing that, in 2 years anyone who wants to can re-register the name as their business just for laughs (ISTR the fee was $60 if you filed it yourself at the courthouse) - though I personally wouldn't advise it. There's going to be a few people who are mightily pissed off at the guy, and they may think you're somehow related to him.
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Re:Not bad
Quebec is still pretty cheap and beats Germany at electricity from renewables: 97%
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Re:Not bad
Also in Quebec, it is 97% renewable electricity and Quebec is several times bigger than Germany in area. So they have been deserving a
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Re:Not true
All it takes is one complaint. Obviously the people they are dealing with won't complain because they're English. However, the law is clear. Even internal business communications for companies with more than 50 employees must be in French, though they can also be accompanied by a translation. There are 54 companies that have been granted exemptions.
And for businesses that have more than 50 employees, the law is even more strict. They’re required to use French in everything from internal communications to computer software – and to obtain a certificate from the Office québécois de la langue française, the provincial agency that regulates language, attesting to this “generalized” use of French.
Also, see Article 141 subsection 8 of bill 101
(8) une politique d’embauche, de promotion et de mutation appropriée;
or "an appropriate policy of hiring, promotions, and transfers" - appropriate meaning policies to encourage the business to be able to operate completely in French.
If two people are equally qualified, and one doesn't speak french, the one that does gets hired. Hey, don't blame me - I protested against this law for a couple of weeks, and almost got arrested.
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Re:Microsoft, like their Microsoft NBC...
Not in all countries. In Canada (Quebec at least) and Australia, if something is marked at a certain price the seller is required to provide it at that price. And even at $0 it is a sell. What they could do, is charging for sell taxes. http://www.opc.gouv.qc.ca/en/c...
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Quebec Canada Parental Leave
http://www.rqap.gouv.qc.ca/inc...
For the mother there are a few weeks before birth and up to 18 weeks after at 70% of salary.
And the husband is entitled to parental leave as well.To get an appreciation of what Sanders would also like to bring in, read the contents pointed to by the link
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Re:Freedom of Speech
Nobody thought the provincial exception would get used, but then Quebec turned crazy and decided that freedom of speech is less important than making sure street meat carts don't offer "Le Hot Dog" (I'm guessing it's called "Chien Chaud" but sweaty dogs don't make for appetizing advertising).
To be more precise, it's l'Office québécois de la langue française which turned crazy.
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Re:Of course!Check with your provincial human right commission. Example from the Quebec Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms
18.2. No one may dismiss, refuse to hire or otherwise penalize a person in his employment owing to the mere fact that he was convicted of a penal or criminal offence, if the offence was in no way connected with the employment or if the person has obtained a pardon for the offence.
Other provinces have similar rules.
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Re:IANAL, but IAC
In general, the C.C.P. requires real damages to warrant real reparation
Sorry, but the code of civil procedure (CCP, or CPC in french) was cited ONLY for the procedure used to serve a witness. The CCP is sort of like a HOWTO, in that it covers the procedures used for various civil actions.
Damages for defamation is covered under art. 1457 of the civil code (CC in both languages):
1457. Every person has a duty to abide by the rules of conduct incumbent on him, according to the circumstances, usage or law, so as not to cause injury to another.
Where he is endowed with reason and fails in this duty, he is liable for any injury he causes to another by such fault and is bound to make reparation for the injury, whether it be bodily, moral or material in nature.
He is also bound, in certain cases, to make reparation for injury caused to another by the act or fault of another person or by the act of things in his custody.
2929. An action for defamation is prescribed by one year from the day on which the defamed person learned of the defamation.
All this does is say that if you don't file suit within one year, you're out of luck. It does not define defamation per se.
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Re:The real question isThe same Canadian province that gave an immigration consultant a slap-down in court.
A UBC study of Quebec’s 32-year ban on fast food advertising found that people in that province bought less junk food and their children tend to weigh less than their North American counterparts.
“That regulation effectively reduced fast food consumption in households by as much as 13 per cent each week,” says Asst. Prof. Tirtha Dhar, a marketing expert at UBC’s Sauder School of Business.
In the first study of its kind, Dhar investigated the impact of the world’s first and oldest advertising ban on fastfood. Enacted in 1980, Quebec legislation prohibits advertising of products such as toys and fast food which target children in print and electronic media. In the past decade, other countries have followed suit with similar bans, among them Norway, Sweden, Greece and the U.K.
Dhar says the annual drop in household fast food purchases represents the equivalent of US $88 million in 2010 dollars. "In terms of meals, that reduction represents 13 and 18 billion fewer fast-food calories a year."
Billions and billions of calories not served
...the actual law (warning pdf) which is actually a consumer protection law.
No more weekend cartoon shows with kids going "I-want-It-I-want-It-I-want-It-I-want-It-I-want-It-I-want-It-I-want-It-I-want-It" for the latest piece of plastic junk.
Of course, you have to deal with stupid language laws that treat English as a disease.
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Re:bad fix
According to this I am correct;
On December 11, 1995, the House of Commons adopted a resolution in which the House recognizes that “Québec is a distinct society within Canada”
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Re:Simple.
You may also be interested in knowing that the law to which you referred was part of Quebec's "Accurate Pricing Policy", and governs cases where the price is *HIGHER* at checkout, not lower.
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Re:Simple.
If an object is mispriced, and that price was *NOT* put there by the retailer, the retailer does not have any obligation to honor the price.
Well, if I put a fake price on a product (printing out bar codes isn't that hard), then the retailer doesn't have to honour the fake price.
The retailer, in this case, put one price on the product... and an error in the computer calculations caused the software to assign another price to it... but that other price is not what the retailer put there.
Given that the website is owned, operated, controlled and configured by the retailer, your claim that the retailer didn't put the price there isn't valid. A 50% additional discount on boxing day isn't out of the ordinary.
In a nutshell, typo's don't count.
Typos by the retailer DO count (at least in Quebec). Here's an example: http://www2.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca/dynamicSearch/telecharge.php?type=3&file=/P_40_1/P40_1R2_A.HTM
If the merchant rings up the product too high at the cash register, the customer gets the item at correct price, less $10. This law strongly encourages retailers not to have price errors.
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London Or Pea Soup Fog Caused By Fine Particulates
Get a brain. The biggest single contributor to fine particulate matter air pollution in the many areas of the U.S. and in Canada during winter is from wood burning stoves. Fine particulate matter is very bad for your health as it is of a size that gets deep in the lungs. Don't believe me? Look up London Fog. It wasn't really fog.
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Re:This is basically how US elections work
In Canada it's a requirement to have ID to vote.
Nope. Federally, and in at least some (and possibly all) cases, provincially, you can be vouched for by another elector without yourself showing ID (and until this past election, federally, you didn't have to show ID unless challenged). (For Quebec, for example, see ss. 335.1, 335.2 and 337.)
And it's to stop flagrant voter fraud that runs amok like you have in the US now.
We didn't have flagrant voter fraud when we didn't require ID to vote federally (until 2011). There's also no evidence of flagrant voter fraud in the US.
Here's how it works here: At tax time you are given the option to give your personal information to elections canada via your taxes.
You are also welcome not to. You still retain the right to vote, and the government can get your info from other ways (including provincial election agencies, who get it from medicare and driver's licence data, among other sources). You can also register on election day, federally, and during the election before election day, at any level.
This information is passed to the provincial branch of elections canada.
More often than not, it's passed the other way. And there is no provincial branch of Elections Canada: Elections Canada is an independent body set up by (the federal) Parliament, while the provincial agencies are set up by the provinces. They are completely independent.
If you weren't of age at the time, you can be enrolled when the next election comes along(very rare but it happens).
Actually, this is incredibly common: most people get a card in the mail six months before they turn 18 telling them they will be automatically added to the permanent electoral list, regardless of whether they've ever filed taxes. In fact, I can't think of anyone who wasn't automatically added at 18.
When you show up at the polling station, you show government issued ID. Or two current bills(last 30 days), showing that you live in that district.
Or you get vouched for. If you don't have ID, you have to swear an oath that you are who you say you are and live where you say you do, and someone who lives near you (in your same polling subdivision) has to make the same oath, and they need to show proper ID. You also have to state your name and address out loud for the deputy returning officer, poll clerk and any candidate representatives to hear. That's it. It's faster if you have ID (and the bills don't even have to be within 30 days; the ID can even be expired, in some cases), but it's not required.
Everyone has ID of some form up here. There are also a few other things you can use.
That's generally true, because all citizens have medicare (and nearly everyone gets the card, though it's not a requirement, actually) (citizens who take up residence elsewhere lose their medicare benefits at some point, but they also eventually (usually) lose their right to vote, though the timeframes don't perfectly overlap). In the US, many people do not have medicare. Many do not have driver's licences. And many don't have other government IDs. And the governments often charge for them. This is nothing but a poll tax in another name, which is unconstitutional, but not every judge agrees with this. If you don't give free IDs to all citizens, you shouldn't require them to be able to vote.
Once that happens, your name is stricken from the voter register and the ballot is used up.
Yup, which is how it works in the US too.
No
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Re:Request a blood test
Wikipedia would say "Citation needed." on that.
The first result of a search for "increase in risk of accidents with blood alcohol content" - http://www.saaq.gouv.qc.ca/t2002/actes/pdf/(06a).pdf - indicate a best estimate of 169% increase in risk at
.08% BAC. That's a 2.69x higher risk. They're referring other research showing it at 1.88x.My personal experience with alcohol impairment is that my juggling gets impaired at about half a pint of beer; it doesn't affect anything that I can do well, but it affect all tricks at the edge of my ability. I'm an adult male of over 200 pounds (90+kg). I can't feel that amount at all, but it clearly affect my ability.
Is the 2.69x risk difference something you count as "not sigificantly impaired" (and we just disagree on the definition of significant), or is this a question of difference in research (is there other research I should be aware of) or were you not aware of the actual research levels and may be changing your mind?
Eivind.
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Re:Government Contract in Search of a Problem?
If you look at the dictionary from the Office québécois de la langue franÃaise you'll find that the "tuque" (n.f.) is a "Bonnet tricoté, souvent en laine, que l'on porte généralement pour se protéger du froid." whose English equivalent is "tuque" while the "toque" is a "Casquette hémisphérique que portent les jockeys et dont les couleurs correspondent à celles de leur écurie." whose English equivalent is "cap" (no internal links allowed).
Further, if you look at the the Commission de toponymie's website you'll see that tuque has 32 hits while toque has three. The Town of La Tuque's description sites its name dating back to the end of the 18th Century, with part of the following description reading: "Par ailleurs, l'explication du toponyme est fournie en 1823-1824 par l'explorateur FranÃois Verreault :  un Portage nommé Ushabatshuan (le courant trop fort pour le sauter). Les Voyageurs le nomment la Tuque, à cause d'une Montagne haute, dont le pic ressemble à une Tuque. Ce portage est d'une lieue, avec des fortes cÃtes à monter.  Le toponyme, également attribué à un bureau de poste ouvert en 1887, a donc pour point de départ l'existence dans le passé d'un énorme rocher dominant les chutes à l'endroit du Saint-Maurice oà la ville a été établie. La forme de cette masse de pierre rappelait le bonnet de laine en forme de cÃne naguÃre largement porté par les Québécois et dénommé ici tuque."
If that's not enough for you, you can always rely on Wikipedia.
(And yes, I'm not pretending this is cut and dry, as the Canadian Oxford English Dictionary lists the entry under "toque (also tuque)", but as much as I love the COED, I always spell it with two u's.)
P.S. Nice to know DNF did indeed beat Unicode support on Slashdot; will Hurd beat it? And no, I'm not changing all those accents; look at the links yourselves if you care to read a website that does other languages properly.
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Re:Government Contract in Search of a Problem?
If you look at the dictionary from the Office québécois de la langue franÃaise you'll find that the "tuque" (n.f.) is a "Bonnet tricoté, souvent en laine, que l'on porte généralement pour se protéger du froid." whose English equivalent is "tuque" while the "toque" is a "Casquette hémisphérique que portent les jockeys et dont les couleurs correspondent à celles de leur écurie." whose English equivalent is "cap" (no internal links allowed).
Further, if you look at the the Commission de toponymie's website you'll see that tuque has 32 hits while toque has three. The Town of La Tuque's description sites its name dating back to the end of the 18th Century, with part of the following description reading: "Par ailleurs, l'explication du toponyme est fournie en 1823-1824 par l'explorateur FranÃois Verreault :  un Portage nommé Ushabatshuan (le courant trop fort pour le sauter). Les Voyageurs le nomment la Tuque, à cause d'une Montagne haute, dont le pic ressemble à une Tuque. Ce portage est d'une lieue, avec des fortes cÃtes à monter.  Le toponyme, également attribué à un bureau de poste ouvert en 1887, a donc pour point de départ l'existence dans le passé d'un énorme rocher dominant les chutes à l'endroit du Saint-Maurice oà la ville a été établie. La forme de cette masse de pierre rappelait le bonnet de laine en forme de cÃne naguÃre largement porté par les Québécois et dénommé ici tuque."
If that's not enough for you, you can always rely on Wikipedia.
(And yes, I'm not pretending this is cut and dry, as the Canadian Oxford English Dictionary lists the entry under "toque (also tuque)", but as much as I love the COED, I always spell it with two u's.)
P.S. Nice to know DNF did indeed beat Unicode support on Slashdot; will Hurd beat it? And no, I'm not changing all those accents; look at the links yourselves if you care to read a website that does other languages properly.
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Re:Government Contract in Search of a Problem?
If you look at the dictionary from the Office québécois de la langue franÃaise you'll find that the "tuque" (n.f.) is a "Bonnet tricoté, souvent en laine, que l'on porte généralement pour se protéger du froid." whose English equivalent is "tuque" while the "toque" is a "Casquette hémisphérique que portent les jockeys et dont les couleurs correspondent à celles de leur écurie." whose English equivalent is "cap" (no internal links allowed).
Further, if you look at the the Commission de toponymie's website you'll see that tuque has 32 hits while toque has three. The Town of La Tuque's description sites its name dating back to the end of the 18th Century, with part of the following description reading: "Par ailleurs, l'explication du toponyme est fournie en 1823-1824 par l'explorateur FranÃois Verreault :  un Portage nommé Ushabatshuan (le courant trop fort pour le sauter). Les Voyageurs le nomment la Tuque, à cause d'une Montagne haute, dont le pic ressemble à une Tuque. Ce portage est d'une lieue, avec des fortes cÃtes à monter.  Le toponyme, également attribué à un bureau de poste ouvert en 1887, a donc pour point de départ l'existence dans le passé d'un énorme rocher dominant les chutes à l'endroit du Saint-Maurice oà la ville a été établie. La forme de cette masse de pierre rappelait le bonnet de laine en forme de cÃne naguÃre largement porté par les Québécois et dénommé ici tuque."
If that's not enough for you, you can always rely on Wikipedia.
(And yes, I'm not pretending this is cut and dry, as the Canadian Oxford English Dictionary lists the entry under "toque (also tuque)", but as much as I love the COED, I always spell it with two u's.)
P.S. Nice to know DNF did indeed beat Unicode support on Slashdot; will Hurd beat it? And no, I'm not changing all those accents; look at the links yourselves if you care to read a website that does other languages properly.
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Re:Government Contract in Search of a Problem?
If you look at the dictionary from the Office québécois de la langue franÃaise you'll find that the "tuque" (n.f.) is a "Bonnet tricoté, souvent en laine, que l'on porte généralement pour se protéger du froid." whose English equivalent is "tuque" while the "toque" is a "Casquette hémisphérique que portent les jockeys et dont les couleurs correspondent à celles de leur écurie." whose English equivalent is "cap" (no internal links allowed).
Further, if you look at the the Commission de toponymie's website you'll see that tuque has 32 hits while toque has three. The Town of La Tuque's description sites its name dating back to the end of the 18th Century, with part of the following description reading: "Par ailleurs, l'explication du toponyme est fournie en 1823-1824 par l'explorateur FranÃois Verreault :  un Portage nommé Ushabatshuan (le courant trop fort pour le sauter). Les Voyageurs le nomment la Tuque, à cause d'une Montagne haute, dont le pic ressemble à une Tuque. Ce portage est d'une lieue, avec des fortes cÃtes à monter.  Le toponyme, également attribué à un bureau de poste ouvert en 1887, a donc pour point de départ l'existence dans le passé d'un énorme rocher dominant les chutes à l'endroit du Saint-Maurice oà la ville a été établie. La forme de cette masse de pierre rappelait le bonnet de laine en forme de cÃne naguÃre largement porté par les Québécois et dénommé ici tuque."
If that's not enough for you, you can always rely on Wikipedia.
(And yes, I'm not pretending this is cut and dry, as the Canadian Oxford English Dictionary lists the entry under "toque (also tuque)", but as much as I love the COED, I always spell it with two u's.)
P.S. Nice to know DNF did indeed beat Unicode support on Slashdot; will Hurd beat it? And no, I'm not changing all those accents; look at the links yourselves if you care to read a website that does other languages properly.
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Commission d'accès à l'information (CAI)
Not sure it is relevant, but shouldn't it go through the Commission d'accès à l'information [0]? They seem to be in a position to be dealing with these types of repeat spam-offenders.
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Re:Programmer != Engineer, idiot.
In Canada, it's illegal to practice engineering, or call yourself one, without a engineers license. There's nothing worse than retards who get a college degree in programming and start calling themselves "engineers". It's an insult to every actual certified engineer in the world.
Actually, the distinction is not as cut and dry as you would like to think. Most countries, including Canada, have restrictions in regards to who can use the title Professional Engineer. The Professional Engineer designation usually connotes a degree of legal responsibility when they execute their duties.
However the use of the word "Engineer" in a position name or title is not as well defined legally. For instance in the US there is the notion of Industrial exemptions, where certain engineering positions do not require licensure because the product is sold across the country, or existing legal avenues for compensation of a faulty product are considered antiquate. Furthermore, in your country of Canada, the decisions regarding the use of the word Engineer in a title are varied across provincial lines, for instance some cases from Alberta, two of which it was ruled that the persons use of the word engineer was not liable to confuse the public or cause the public harm. Only in Quebec and Ontario is the word "Engineer" regulated, not just "Professional Engineer" via the Engineers act.
Obligatory IANAL,IANYL, IANAE, IANASE, ILB
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Re:if you're in the intersection and it's red
Right turns are permitted on red lights throughout Québec, except on Montréal Island and at intersections where road signs prohibit such turns. http://www.mtq.gouv.qc.ca/portal/page/portal/grand_public_en/vehicules_promenade/reseau_routier/signalisation/virage_droite_feu_rouge
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Re:What!?
And suits at common law where the amount in dispute exceeds twenty dollars.
Not in Canada. Cases below a certain minimum (examples: $7,000 in Quebec, $10,000 - or $25,000 as of next January - in Ontario) are going to end up in small claims court. Small claims court is the only option for many such cases. Here's the relevant citation for Quebec, which shows that even the Code Civile treats it the same as common law in the rest of Canada:
The Small Claims Division
The Small Claims Division deals with all claims up to $7,000 made by natural persons, or by legal persons, partnerships or associations that have employed no more than five people in the twelve months prior to the claim. The types of claims heard may involve, for example, breach of contract or damage to another person's property.
Procedure in the Small Claims Division is simple and informal. The claimant cannot be represented by a lawyer, unless allowed because of the complexity of the case. The proceedings are conducted by the judge, who examines the witnesses and hears the parties. Judgments in the Small Claims Division are final and cannot be appealed.
It is important to note that this Division also hears various tax cases involving both income tax and other types of taxes. A taxpayer may file an appeal concerning a tax matter to this Division. Since this question is relatively complex, it is preferable to contact Revenu Québec for more information.
There are no civil jury trials in Quebec, and few in the rest of Canada. Thee is no Constitutional right for a trial by jury in civil cases in Canada.
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Re:Slashkos
Firearms, not guns. Canada has more firearms, but far fewer handguns, and most of the shootings in the US are from handguns (which is where we get the term "Saturday Night Special" for a cheap, throwaway piece).
Note how the Reuters article is referring only to guns:
France, Canada, Sweden, Austria and Germany were next, each with about 30 guns per 100 people,
Also:
Remember the Canadian system doesn't include medications, so there's no scamming pain meds or anything.
The Quebec system includes compulsory drug coverage, either through a private plan, or the public one.
It's funny how the people in the US are screaming about "freedom" and "socialism" when it comes to healith care, but have no objection to socialized security (police and fire services, the military, etc.) It's all bogus, and if you follow the money, it's the insurance companies financing the misinformation. Insurance companies in the US withhold treatment and end up killing people - just search for "cigna whistleblower"
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Re:Not so much!
Thanks for the details. There is also a summary of the rights and duties for IT translated here:
http://www.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/english/infoguides/depliant_7_20050711.pdf
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Re:do they require French French or Quebec French?
Per the info in both articles (the post, and your link), and the relevant text of the Charter, there doesn't seem to be any "official quebec french" designation - standard french will do.
http://www.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/english/charter/title1chapter7.html
It seems that is on purpose - but wiki-facts should be taken with a grain of salt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_qu%C3%A9b%C3%A9cois_de_la_langue_fran%C3%A7aise
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Not so much!
If you had taken the time to read about this specific thing, you'd learn that not only is this old news (this was done in 2007!), but that the CANADIAN association of video game signed this bill.
Also, any computer game has been subject to this exact bill since october 2007. The only difference is that now, console games are also covered.
If you took the time to read the description, you'd have learned that distributor are mandated to offer the french version of a game provided that it already exists somewhere else.
The bill specifies that any reseller can sell the english version as long as they also offer the french version if it exists. I'm a french quebecer and I kept buying english computer games without noticing anything.
The only problem that I heard about caused by this bill so far has been with world of warcraft, for which the french version was originally built for playing on european servers, so you could not play with a friend who bought the english version...
You might find this interesting:
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Re:Minority Mandates
Boy, you got that wrong. As you no doubt know, only one province is properly bilingual (New Brunswick). In some respects other provinces -- including Quebec -- cater to both languages. Try for example checking the government websites of all the provinces. Only four provinces offer versions in both languages -- and wouldn't you know it? one of them is Quebec (version 1, version 2). The other three are Ontario, Manitoba, and of course New Brunswick. All the rest, to use your word, "enforce" one language -- and it ain't French.
But please feel free to keep spreading misinformation and political propaganda. You do, after all, live in a (relatively) free country.
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Re:Minority Mandates
Boy, you got that wrong. As you no doubt know, only one province is properly bilingual (New Brunswick). In some respects other provinces -- including Quebec -- cater to both languages. Try for example checking the government websites of all the provinces. Only four provinces offer versions in both languages -- and wouldn't you know it? one of them is Quebec (version 1, version 2). The other three are Ontario, Manitoba, and of course New Brunswick. All the rest, to use your word, "enforce" one language -- and it ain't French.
But please feel free to keep spreading misinformation and political propaganda. You do, after all, live in a (relatively) free country.
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Re:Physical access = carte blanche
The government must act quickly to stop this reprehensive tax evasion. I see only one solution: federally-mandated DRM on all cash-registers.
Don't laugh: it's already been done:
The government's latest anti-zapper effort would oblige restaurants to connect an independent computerized device to their cash registers, making it more difficult to conceal or alter sales data.
Easier to track fraudThe machine records sales information, then stores it in a secure independent environment. Every sales transaction that is completed will have a unique digital signature, which will be printed on a bill with a bar code. It is hoped the measure will make it easier for Revenue Quebec to analyze sales data for tell-tale evidence of tax fraud. The government plans to implement the recorders as a pilot project with volunteer restaurant operators throughout the province, including Quebec City and Montreal, in November 2009 to determine that they work properly.
The following year, the device would then gradually be phased in over a 12-month period, following which all restaurant operators would be required to have it connected up. The government will be shouldering the cost of the machine itself, as well as for its installation. Revenue Quebec says the measures are being taken with the cooperation of the Quebec Restauranteurs Association, the Conseil des chaînes de restaurants du Québec, the Association of Hoteliers of Quebec and the Canadian Federation of Independent Business.And the alteration of the computer records is also prohibited.
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Re:The Unwritten Story...It's more likely that the Office quebecois de la langue francaise (OLF), aka the Language Police, would be more upset with the fact that they used English at all.
Quebec is NOT a bilingual province, the only official language is French. New Brunswick is the only constitutionally bilingual province.
Check out the very recent bruhaha caused by an Irish Pub in Montreal having Guinness posters on the wall that didn't have French on them. I'm a anglophone born and raised in Montreal, who has since moved down the river to Ottawa, and man, I don't miss that shit.
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and from TA - and then, not including Quebec
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Re:Total compensation
I would have to agree with the parent here. Not sure how it works in the states, but in Canada such laws are already in place (not that they are working well), and many IT companies routinely pay overtime. In Quebec, for example, we have a government agency - La Commission des normes du travail, whose job is to educate employees about their rights, and catch companies that mistreat their workers. Indeed, the whole reason why the 40/hr weeks were set as a standard is to prevent the potential abuse coming from employers.
Contract worker or not, when one has been employed by a company for more than 3 months (maybe 4, I forget), they become eligible for all of the standard employee benefits including sick days, overtime pay, etc. see here.
When employers submit their financial reports to the Revenue Canada, they have to specify hours per week. Adjusting the financial data to fit no more than 40 hours per week, is, well, highly illegal. -
Re:Advertised price != actual price?
Similarly, in Quebec (the jurisdiction in question), a store must discount $10 off an item's actual price (or give it free if it's less than $10) if the price on the shelf is different from the price scanned at the cash. See details (in French).
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Re:Canada's TV is pathetic
What do you mean that Canada is always copying from the US? What about "un gars, une fille", exported around the world? http://www.mcc.gouv.qc.ca/publications/culture_qu
e bec_eng.pdf
Or about Just for Laughs Gags, also exported around the world? http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/summary_0199-47978 72_ITM
There are many more I could list if I wasn't too lazy to check for references on the web. "Le temps d'une paix", "Les filles de Caleb", etc...
Oh... You are talking about ENGLISH Canadian productions. You seams to put all Canadians on the same boat. To be fair, English Canada does produces "Little Mosque on the prairie", also original and IIRC, exported.
Granted, for some reason, it is very hard to convince English Canadians to watch Canadian made shows and even more, Canadian movies. However, in French Canada, in most recent years localy produced movies beat the American movies at the box office, like "Bon cop, bad cop" and "Nitro":
http://lcn.canoe.com/lcn/artsetspectacles/cinema/a rchives/2006/09/20060925-195421.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM .20070716.wxnitro16/BNStory/Entertainment
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Re:No Hope At All
That's not right anymore...
http://www.mtq.gouv.qc.ca/en/reseau/signalisation/ virage.asp
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To my brethren Canucks out there.
Find your MP and put the pressure on, please. I've already called mine (Laurie Hawn), to find his position on the debate. The rep at his office had never heard of the Net Neutrality issue. While I hope this isn't common, I wouldn't be surprised. If your MP is a Conservative, put the pressure about how damaging this will be to small businesses, startups, and our fancy new "Knowledge-based economy" idea. It may be easier to convince the Liberal or NDPs about how damaging this could be to the consumer. I urge EVERY Canadian on Slashdot to put in a courtesy call or two to their local Member of Parliament. While you're at it, contact your MLA to see if you can help pressure your provincial government as well. I'll include links:
Alberta
British Columbia
Manitoba
New Brunswick
Newfoundland
Northwest Territories
Nova Scotia
Nunavut Territory
Ontario
Prince Edward Island
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Re:Vive le Québec libre!
http://gouv.qc.ca/portail/quebec/pgs/commun top right english and español.. WOW THEY'RE BREAKING THEIR OWN LAW?!!?!
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Re:Dual Use Tech or How I Saved The WorldIt must really depends where you live, because here in Quebec, Canada, electricity is by far the cheapest solution. Actually, I don't think I've ever seen a gas stove in Montreal city, where I live. Everything just runs on electricity.
Granted, due to being a huge hydro power producer, our electricity is a bit cheaper than what you get in the US (0.069$ CAD per KW/h for me right now). Even then, according to the government's energy cost calculator, electricity is by far the cheapest option. Well actually, the cheapest option seems to be a mix of oil/electricity, but I don't know anyone with that setup.
My point is, even pure electricity is cheaper than an extremely recent natural gas heating installation (assuming 95% efficiency from gas). According to their calculations, an average 2 bedrooms home pays 1292$ per year for electricity heating (not counting water & appliances), while the best natural gas installation nets you a yearly cost of 1348$. Not a huge difference, but that's a best-case scenario.
Additionally, using electricity over here means no contribution to global warming, since it's all hydro. Win-win situation. I suppose with the higher electricity prices in the US gas can be cheaper, although there are reports that gas production might have peaked around 2001 in the USA, meaning it's going to get more expensive unless you start importing, with all the middle-eastern goodness that implies.
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Re:This type of fraud is one of the classics
In Quebec there is RDPRM to resolve some of these issues. Of course, it doesn't help with identity theft.
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Re:Tracability?
- Says you, and you have not been able to reasonably defend or justify that opinion.
- I'm not sure where we established that. Maybe in your mind, right after we proved that the US military is holding designs for flying saucers and NASA faked the moon landing. ("But the evidence people! Look at the evidence!") Also, your belief that "these people" deserve to have their pockets picked makes me slightly less confident in your status as the savior of the internet.
- That ActiveX has not been replaced does not prove that Microsoft intentionally (as in, "with intent") left Microsoft Windows open for malware.
- As I said, I have never had a problem with File Explorer displaying the true extension of any files. That doesn't mean it hasn't happened, just that if it has happened, it hasn't caused me any problems. In fact, I hadn't even noticed. And it doesn't prove that Microsoft intentionally (as in, "with intent") left Microsoft Windows open for malware.
- Unless you wear a tinfoil hat, Windows Genuine Advantage (which, as explanation for others reading this conversation, recently fell to spyware accusations due to its undisclosed "phoning home" to Microsoft) does not prove Microsoft intentionally (as in, "with intent") left Microsoft Windows open for malware.
- Unless you can prove a percentage of the police force is dedicated only to issuing speeding fines, the whole police force is part of the running cost of the system by which those fines are issued and collected. There are also printing costs, collection costs, cost of arrest and jailtime of nonpayers... Also, you have not shown that speeding tickets more than pay for that force or the system by which speeding fines are issued and collected.
- That you claim a police force did only their minimum work, causing a government to rethink its policy on some undisclosed matter, does not prove that speeding tickets pay for that force or the system by which speeding fines are issued and collected, indefinitely or even temporarily.
- As stated before, I currently only use Windows for testing and prefer not to use it as my main operating system of choice. November last year, I began using Ubuntu Breezy as my main OS. In January, I was fortunate enough to acquire a Mac/OS X equipped machine. That I do not wear a tinfoil hat and accuse Microsoft of demonic acts and inviting malware and call every Windows user an idiot does not make me a "Wiondow fanboi". That's just another one of your wild, wacky assumptions, I'm afraid.
I am not convinced you have faith in your proposed "solution" to internet crime (punishing its victims). If you are serious, you will contact one of the following people before posting your next reply:
- Jean Charest is the Premier ministre du Québec. If you speak Fax, you can call him at (418) 643-3924. His English/Frog-speaking phone is available by dialing the numbers (418) 643-5321. Parentheses are not numbers. Hyphens are not numbers either.
- Stephen Harper is the current Premier ministre du Canada. Call him: (613) 992-4211. Ask for Ol' Blue Eyes.
- I already gave you the number for the White House (I pulled it from the intro to H2G2, by the way. Resourceful, non?) You said you'd be calling the wrong country. You forgot: the internet is accessible globally; for your approach to have any real effect, it would need to be enforced globally. Yes, it'll be a lot of work, but just think: you'll be an international hero!
In your next comment, please explain which of these people you called, why, and describe their response. If you do not do so, I will have to assume that you have no real faith in your proposed "solution".
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Re:Entry not open to Quebec ...
Qebec law says that if you're running a 'lottery' (which this falls under the definition of) with a prize worth more than C$100, you have to register with the Régie des alcools, des courses et des jeux. You have to pay a fee to register, and it takes a long time to process the application, so it's not worthwhile for most companies to include Quebec in these promotions.
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Re:New meaning to an old wordThe corporations should be able to speak their minds, about what they want, but they shouldn't be giving money to them. That's the same as a bribe. Only personal donations should be allowed. And it should probably be capped, otherwise, private citizens are committing bribery too.
That's exactly the way it works up here in Quebec. From the Election Act
90. Every contribution must be made by the elector himself out of his own property.
91. The total of contributions to each party, independent Member and independent candidate by the same elector during the same calendar year shall not exceed the amount of $3 000. In the case of a party, the amount may be paid in whole or in part to one or another of its party authorities.Shouldn't be too hard to adapt to the US... that is, if the US would accept influence from French Canadians...
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Réfléchir avant de parler! (About Quebec
The reason why Quebec is excluded is because here in Quebec the lottery is regulated by the RACJ, a goverment agency. The lottery have is own laws, and therefore if the Mozilla Fundation do not accept to fill the papers that loto Quebec ask for they cannot participate.
See : http://www.racj.gouv.qc.ca/section.asp?lang=en&noS ection=4&noGrappe=5
Also, I would be great if the slashdot community would stop bashing Quebec about the "language police". THERE IS NOT LANGUAGE POLICE IN QUEBEC, this is bullshit!. There are only laws that make in sort that everything must be written in french on commercial products, and that the french must occupate the same space than the english. That's all! So if a consummer see a poorly written french on a products or an ad, it can make a complaint to the Quebec french language office that will HELP the seller to translate is products to french. You heard it right! They will HELP without any fees!
Why this? Hey we are 6 millions french (and 1 million english) in Quebec. There's 330 millions english speaker around US! How you would expect US to keep our language without laws? If you were 6 millions english speaker with 330 millions spanish what would you do if you were actualy enjoying your cultural heritage? You would not stand up to protect your liberty of speaking whatever language you want?
That's why the law is there.
See Wikipedia if you want to lean a bit more about Quebec. Very good description IMHO. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec
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Re:The MozCorp ....
It's more because you have to register your contest with the "Régie des alcool, des courses et jeux" (loose traduction : Office of alcool, gambling and lottery).
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Re:But
[...]I want a hotline where I can call in time, place and license plate of people like that.
I tought that there was allready such a thing in every part of the civilized world!
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So did Québec
The Governement du Québec also published information for it's ministères regarding the use of OSS. http://www.logiciel-libre.gouv.qc.ca/index.php?id
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